The military tech to combat Russia's jamming resistant fibre-optic drones

[@Zero4Infinitives]

The fibre optic cable is almost transparent, very very thin and you have a few seconds to do it. So basically it's almost impossible.

[@laf5537]

Too delicate not to have a protective layer over it though, so likely not transparent. Very thin though I agree.

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

Don't have to spot the cable, just hit the area directly behind where the cable connects. As for 'transparent', likely so in most wavelengths, but possible black or super reflective in Near Infra Red.

[@laf5537]

@@PiDsPagePrototypes Good point 👍

[@MikevomMars]

@@PiDsPagePrototypes IR emission is caused by an object's temperature. Infrared is emitted by all objects whose temperature is above 0 deg Kelvin. So the cable _could_ be visible if its temperature differs significantly from the temperature of its surrounding. However, even then, it would be difficult to spot since most IR detecting devices have a very low resolution. The cable is just too thin to see it there.

[@codures]

​@@PiDsPagePrototypeswhich wavelength? The CCD/CMOS sensor needs an impressive resolution to monitor the sky for 1 mm or less fibers.

[@BoxxArt]

You know those huge scissors they use to cut a ribbon at a new shopping centre? Seriously, where did you get that Scottish guy??! These soldiers have a few seconds after spotting the drone, this guy thinks they have all day to set up their big wing rc planes to try and "chop" though the cable. Absolutely rediculous.

[@MatthewSmith-i9y]

That's because hes saying its unstoppable.

[@vacoff2717]

yes, "drone expert" my ass

[@mactep1]

There is no such thing as a "war expert"

[@trs4u]

@@BoxxArt Regardless of whether it'd work or not, using plane wings to chop cables has been used before. If he didn't mention it, we'd all be saying "he's not much of an expert is he?"

[@CochinKerala]

0:28 Just about the most stupidest solution ever. A winged drone with razor wings?!? How did you even come up with that. 😂

[@ashokn32]

That is his cutting edge solution 😂😂

[@CochinKerala]

@@ashokn32what will they think up next? 😅

[@CC-ns2ds]

To be honest if you see how good some of these Ukrainian Drone operators are at flying it’s pretty plausible. Watch drone racing you have people that can dive through chimneys.

[@CochinKerala]

@@CC-ns2ds You have no idea what you are talking about do you?

[@greennexis]

You really can't see the cable. It's probably easier to hit the drone itself with an fpv. Also winged drones have a lot higher range, but have a lot harder time at hitting moving targe​t, let alone a small almost invisible wire. @@CC-ns2ds

[@hughn]

If he thinks they need titanium blades, he obviously has never cut his finger with standard plastic ones.

[@microsoftword213]

I dont even know why he specified titanium, as if a cheaper metal wouldnt work, like he knows they need to be cheaply manufactured right?

[@alanthecat59]

drone blade cutting drone cable silly idea , pointless vid

[@oompalumpus699]

_I prefer the shotgun drones._

[@barrygleeson8415]

And your solution is....?

[@gregor3099]

If it works it aint stupid

[@4354-d4v]

You don't need any sharpness at all, these cables are very thin and will tear easily. Problem is there is no way to detect these drones and it will be incredibly hard to find and destroy them before they will attack you first.

[@JojoJoget]

These cables are fragile, there’s a reason why they don’t go around obstructions where the cable could get stuck

[@British-ranmsansame]

🇯🇵As a Japanese person, I regret that the name "kamikaze" is used for a drone, but I'm also a little happy. To be honest, I have mixed opinions about drones. On the one hand, they have made the war more complicated and cowardly, but on the other hand, they have saved Ukraine, which was underpowered at the beginning of the war. I think military measures against drones should be taken urgently.

[@alistairjclark2433]

How is it any less cowardly than a reaper drone? Laser guided munitions, snipers, airstrikes, mines the list could go on. Drones are just the newest way for humans to efficiently kill each other

[@AmNesia-r5h]

wut

[@sadaasdafa8635]

If it helps, “kamikaze drone” is a term used mostly by the media and is not considered official. Most reputable experts and most military organisations use the term ‘Loitering munitions’ to describe a drone being used as a bomb or missile. This is to keep their definition in line with other explosive delivery devices, such as rockets, torpedoes, cruise missiles, etc.

[@bl8danjil]

As someone has said already "kamikaze drone" is really only used by the news media and people that don't know better. Loitering munitions have more in common with missiles than UAV's like the common quad copter. This fiber optic one is basically a TOW missile or Spike missile with loitering capability.

[@thomasohanlon1060]

@@British-ranmsansame Question, doesn’t the word kamikaze mean divine wind? If so I think the drone fits more with the meaning and the only ones being hit are the enemy only under human control unlike a storm that sunk a mongol fleet that was invading Japan in 1247 or 1281 (been a long time since I’ve read anything of Japanese history).

[@pauliewalnuts240]

I disagree completely. Physically slicing drone wires is impractical. Thats one step better then having a guy with a sword on drone duty. Until a fast system is created that quickly detects a drone & uses a large shotgun like blast to destroy them is created, there will be vulnerabilities. The benefit of this is that such a system could also be used with radio controlled drones, rather then hoping your sharp winged drone happens to be in the right area at the right time. If you flew a sharp drone into the drones wire, it couldnt cut. The wire is tethered on a literal fishing reel spool on release. The attacking drone would just pull out a lot of wire from the spool while it was wrapped on the wing...

[@thoughtpolice5191]

Yeah, if you manage to detect the drone and then try to severe the wire behind it, you could as well shoot/ram the drone itself. Most drones are still radio guided so it does not make sense to create a complicated and expensive counter measure that only works against some drones.

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

Fishing line type spool..... Onboard, or back at the support location? If it is onboard, a quad with a regular prop out front could tangle and pull out the fibre, then tow the drone in to it's own maw.

[@MartinHewing-k7n]

A guy on top of the vehicle with a shotgun?

[@kahlzun]

A vehicle mounted flamethrower could be quite effective

[@lawrencefrost9063]

Shotguns work. But that doesn't really help if the drones are fast, if you can't see them (night) or if you miss, you only get a single shot or two out before the drone is on you.

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

Remote operated gun, using the sound to target and the volume to set firing distance.

[@AndroSpud]

Try shooting a kg of plastic explosives traveling at 100kph straight at you that you only hear 20 meters away from you and only see 10 meters away from you.

[@JojoJoget]

@@lawrencefrost9063 they don’t fly these drones at night because they can’t see and thermal is expensive

[@aurijustriksys2695]

Then another task is to know that there's drone coming and finding it's cable before the drone arrives. Come on..

[@musicbruv]

So you have to see the drone coming, run towards the drone that is faster than you can run, find the cable and cut it! Come on!

[@ToeCutter454]

what's hilarious about all of this is listening to people talk about using MORE tech to destroy these... seriously... bring out the Falconry people... those birds own the sky! not only can they see and hear them from a hell of a lot further away than you'll ever spot them on ground radar systems but they're precision for sniping things out of the air is second to none... you only need a few of them spread out because the birds can monitor a decent range... i would mop the floor with this war using such outdated tech that everyone involved would hang their heads in shame... NATO and the US are trying to keep this going as a learning exercise for them in "how to defeat tech in modern wars"...

[@Gasher82nd]

we tried different tactics to knock one of those drones and it was a guy who saw us and came up with a brilliant idea which we tried and had 93 % success. Get fishing rod, use a weight like ledger and cast over it. A good cast goes over rear cable and real in. Looks weird but very good.

[@FishingSGsWild]

even if the optic cable is being cut, it must still be able to quickly switch to radio waves as a back-up just in case that area of concern has weak or no signal interference and the drone can still continue to push forward

[@Cav-z1y]

This is just a middle step before AI or self awareness drones similar to brimstone missiles. The only counter is DEW systems, but until those can be put on Ajax or challenger 3, we are out of our depth fighting drone warfare

[@kahlzun]

i imagine a small kinetic drone that is hand-deployed and flies toward the sound of drone rotors at high speed. Only needs to last maybe a minute.

[@Jimmythefish577]

Nah, these types of drones will become obsolete on the battlefield soon enough.

[@Astra2]

Good point, once the drones have an AI computer onboard there'll be no way to intercept the signal, as there is no need for a signal. I'm honestly surprised neither side has figured out that tech yet. All you'd really need is a simple machine vision system to look for vehicles and such to target, then just kamikaze into it.

[@LyonPercival]

Too expensive for small firepower

[@nic.h]

@@LyonPercival probably not for long

[@trs4u]

2:26 "sound detectors" - told you! The real problem here is likely the inability to distinguish between friend and foe. It wouldn't be difficult (for me! I say that secure in the knowledge I live somewhere where I can't even freely play ball games) to make something cheap and reasonably effective to defend against drones, but it'd be 'broad spectrum', like 'defending against guns'. Any defence one imagines would also likely act against friendly drones. I can't help thinking the labour-intensive, grinding pox of 'drone warfare' might suit Putin's plans quite well. He doesn't want this game to end?

[@a9503128]

Easy to encode a friend tone undetectable by human ears into the device or shape of the blades.

[@trs4u]

@a9503128 schemes are imaginable - I wondered if the rotor power could be modulated. The problem would be obtaining 'our' versions of drones, keeping everyone's drones and defence systems matched, and preventing/detecting others masquerading.

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

Forget using a wing. Use a 450 sized 3D capable Heli with Carbon blades, fly in behind and left the heli's blade cut the fibre.

[@thevulcan2011]

What about a net gun that shoot to the drone? The connected string could make the drone to be more easy to be hit? Or a light weight high energy laser that just just strong enough to meld the fiber string?

[@MatthewSmith-i9y]

They're admitting it's unstoppable.

[@bosstwind7010]

you didn't watch the video did you? they showed off two technologies that can take said drones down.

[@CochinKerala]

@@bosstwind7010 They showed off one device under development and another which doesn’t yet exist. Did you really watch the video?

[@MatthewSmith-i9y]

@@CochinKerala it's crazy to me that this has to be spelled out

[@CochinKerala]

@@MatthewSmith-i9y I guess too much video gaming can mess up people’s cognitive skills.

[@JohnDoe-iq9bz]

@@bosstwind7010 Nah they can't. Those Russian shovels are evolving quite fast😃

[@MikevomMars]

Quadcopters are actually quite fragile itself - you just need to break one of its four propellers to let it crash. So, beside EW, the old school weapons to repel a drone are buckshot, any type of fragmentation bullets or a net gun (anti drone gun). But those methods require the attacking drone to get very close to you.

[@kennyleung2001]

Optic fibre should now classified as dual use item

[@neiltitmus9744]

Its cheap Chinese th3y are selling loads of it now

[@agnelomascarenhas8990]

duel use 🤣 👍

[@VladimirGluten47]

How does a 1.5km cable provide 10km range?

[@cew_die_pie]

He said 1.5kg, not 1.5m.

[@laurynaspovilavicius7913]

@@cew_die_pie still, is there a 10km fiber in the spool? Can it really be that long?

[@noonecaresaboutgoogle3219]

​@laurynaspovilavicius7913 It's incredibly thin and light, so yes.

[@Vzzdak]

Just need a bolo arrangment dropped onto the fibre-optic cable. The bolo wraps around the cable, and its weight causes the fibre to catch in terrain, especially if the bolos have hooks.

[@Jimmythefish577]

How exactly do you locate and attack the cable?

[@nic.h]

This would result in the cable being pulled down by the bolo but not much else as the cable feeds out from the drone.

[@saqibshafin]

@@nic.h Exactly. This wouldn't help. Need to find some other way.

[@Vzzdak]

Seems like the Russian bots don't like my advice.

[@nic.h]

@ I'm curious why you think any of us who replied are Russian bots?

[@ImRanger]

They fly fiber optic drones slowly not to snap the wire so they are very easy to shoot down as dismounted infantry with a shot gun with bird shot.

[@markforsyth2721]

Knowing how quickly cable can kink and get snagged, one has to assume that their use would be limited to “open” country. I can really see it flying a complex route among either trees or building.

[@thulsadoom2342]

Lol the whole cable spun is attached to the drone. Who cares if it gets snagged on some tree. It just keeps unrolling as it moves forward

[@FLORIDIANMILLIONAIRE]

How do they turn around the fiber optic cable they dont get snagged ?

[@hugo_dog9898]

Катушка провода стоит на дороне. Не возможно зацепиться. 😊

[@FLORIDIANMILLIONAIRE]

@hugo_dog9898 English?

[@blue1991dbes]

The coil is on the drone so as the drone moves it uncoils the optic fibre.

[@tomandrews1615]

@@FLORIDIANMILLIONAIRE Translate?

[@kahlzun]

@@blue1991dbes couldnt you just follow the cable back to its source and counter-battery the drone controller then?

[@moriwaki80]

Even if not cut, a kinked cable might render the drone inoperable as light will refract outside the cable.

[@JayD-e2w]

Small radar dome and an auto shot gun attached to it. Or a microphone that hones in on the sound and a gun that follows the sound. Bang.

[@lohikarhu734]

@JayD-e2w; 'hones in" is wrong, the phrase is "homes in" Just a little thing, but small mistakes reduce your effectiveness 😉

[@BrianSu]

it's the same way anti-tank missiles and submarine torpedoes have been controlled for decades

[@tedarcher9120]

The best way would be to basically blind the camera with powerful strobe lights so operators lose control

[@TheDemocles]

I mean, the Luftwaffe basically did the same thing as a counter to tethered barrage balloons before and during the Battle of Britain. Just make a wide glider type drone with a cutting surface attached. Just gotta fly near it, poof. You aint gotta spot the wire, just the drone, and I think a lot of commenters are forgetting that.

[@Scouser22]

This may be a line of investigation: External electromagnetic fields may pass through the insulation layer of fiber optic cables and induce weak signal interference. Electromagnetic interference can cause distortion, jitter, or even complete loss of optical signals.

[@tedarcher9120]

Fiberoptic uses light

[@RaphaelChan888]

Sharp titanium drone blades? Forget about cutting cables - they would be horrifying enough to terrorize enemy soldiers like an airborne Freddy Krueger

[@thulsadoom2342]

Manhacks hh

[@evinoshima9923]

a long cable with diamond powder and a fishing weight would cut the cable in a single pass

[@user-mw9qb2pp9b]

Same as a torpedo, wire guided. They probably can still go autonomous after the cable is broken, just the same as a torpedo. Good luck to everybody out there. Look into directed EMP for a way forward. 🙏🏻

[@mohsenunknown]

What if the cable is entangled and get stuck in the treeline? What if the enemy would just follow the cable to find the operators? There seems to be some flaws

[@AndroSpud]

So you're going to use another drone with titanium blades to cut another drones 3mm thick, near invisible, moving fiberoptic cable, all within several seconds before it detonates on its target.... Good luck with that mate

[@elgracko]

The first things first you have to detect where they are that way personnel and vehicles can react to a drone in the area then wants you to take that you can take the necessary interventions

[@michaelanderson3096]

Wood slat turtle armour & vampire air defense 😮

[@spongebob7296]

have multiple friendly drones that have a line trailing behind it 100 feet below it with a heavy enough v shaped razor cutting hook and have it patrolling around friendly positions a km away circling above and it can hook and snag the optic cable severing it

[@jay-firstofhisname]

28 inch barrel semi automatic shotgun with birdshot

[@Ceasar_404]

Once the Drone has crashed could you not just put an IR illuminator (DBAL) on the fibre optic, lighting up the entire cable, then use an IR camera on a Drone to follow it back to the operator?

[@kj1483]

Jam-Proof Fiber Optic Drone Testing In Ukraine...Light weight, high strength fiber optic cables are ideal for tethering drones. They can transmit data and video, and provide power to drones.These cables are flexible, abrasion resistant, and lightweight. They may have an acrylate-coated fiber and an abrasion resistant Hytrel outer jacket. These cables may be made with a fluoropolymer fiber braid cable jacket that is abrasion resistant and has low friction. Option; disposable spools are compact and lightweight, and can be used for unmanned ground vehicles and underwater operations.

[@DwayneDibbley]

Would a directed EMP work on the drone?

[@craigmore3433]

If fibre optic signals are pulses of light moving through glass tubes, would directed strobe lighting have an effect?

[@anegoggle4291]

The first and foremost thing is to find out these drones. Using a big enough drone with an electric supply cable linked to a ground vehicle. It equipped with various instruments to find out and pinpoint these drones, e.g, Radar and optical equipment. This system should be able to be operated manned or unmanned. Then, other methods will be used to destroy these drones.

[@mactep1]

Bro you have like a minute, at best, to do all this.

[@Chisel_Chest]

Wouldn't the drones that shoot nets/shotgun drones be more efficient than trying to snip the wire?

[@tedarcher9120]

You need autonomous laser drone defence in each of your convoys

[@KriminalKrampus]

time for flak to come back in style?

[@VijayVardan-c9p]

A gun with a customised "paintball shell" with delayed fuse won't help blur the camera? And that wouldn't be enough?

[@SirDamned]

shotgun, okay next question MOD?

[@whisky3822]

why don't equip drones with blades to cut fiber optic string?

[@dennisnguyen8105]

As always, the best counter of any weapon platform is the same platform. The best counter to drones is another drone.

[@julianjdogg]

lol ingenius looking comment saying literally nothing

[@AKZP87]

For fox-holes and Bunkers you just could put very thin flat wire to cut those optic fibres, Spring steel is very suitable for this

[@AKZP87]

or something sharp edged blade which spins, with good bearings those can just spin without electricity via wind

[@kibun1]

Doesn't seem reasonable. Somebody has to stear this thing. It must be easier to develop a suicide drone with an accoustic sensor which directs itself into the target.

[@jkoning8985]

can you shoot a thin metal wire over the optic wire and sent a current throw it so the optic wire burns throught ?

[@PaulSmith-c6p]

AeroVironment Switchblade end of story

[@chrisbronson5341]

How about a laser wire cutter on the drones ??

[@butspan7618]

Yow do you tell which wire is a left over from a previous attack and which one is currently being used

[@ignore-fv7rc]

fiber optic drones could be defeated by tethering two drone together vie a long high strength wire and having them run a grid pattern across the field of battle. add a couple of capacitors to that wire and rig them for discharge when the drones hit a fiber optic cable. that wire will go through the cable like butter

[@musicbruv]

That would be useless when they come across the first tree or other obstacles.

[@microsoftword213]

Just googled it this Professor is actually a professor of applied ethics in the humanities department. Why even get him on the show.

[@elgracko]

How do you smell like drones to just ram into them, with sound sensors and control theory

[@winstonchurchill6506]

Virgin media give them a ring

[@Galva101]

Doesnt this also show where the pilot is?

[@kolumbos]

Good luck with the string that is the thickness of a fishing line

[@definitelynotthefbi725]

By the time you follow the route to the pilot, they'll move on

[@Bert4ceasar]

I could think of a mobile and vehicle mountable 360 detection and homing anti-drone mini missile system.

[@evinoshima9923]

just fly a fighting kite

[@ethiomonk7734]

How does kilometrs of cable survived multiple obstacles like buildings and trees?

[@AnonymousWarrior-z2e]

Bcz fiber roller on drone not in the hands of controller... If fiber stuck in trees but not broken drones completely operational

[@ethiomonk7734]

@AnonymousWarrior-z2e It is still attached to both sides (controller and the drone) so I expect it to be caught by structures on the ground.

[@mactep1]

@@ethiomonk7734 it gets caught but it doesn't drag or stop the drone, since the spool is on the drone.

[@ethiomonk7734]

@@mactep1 Oh that's why, thanks. 👍

[@eternalstudios4502]

How does the cable not get caught on anything? And also what if Ukriane was able to find a cable could they track the place it came from

[@og2tone619]

A drone with scissors like a sickle

[@FrenchAlexHunter]

Does anybody know if the military is testing 10 gauge shotgun? Attached to a motorised sound detector, it could be a short range solution for IFV and APC

[@elgracko]

That's ridiculous if you can barely detect the Drone how can you detect the tiny fo wire suspended in the air

[@tonysuper3074]

EMP can work

[@kahlzun]

why wouldnt you just use a wire like an old TOW missile?

[@butspan7618]

Weight of the cable pay load of drones is more limited then a missile

[@Juho-uf8si]

Scissors.

[@LostAnFound]

Boomerangs!

[@mikebeatstsb7030]

What about the new laser they got?

[@kahlzun]

lasers are a thermal weapon, so they need dwell time to heat up the spot they're hitting, which is hard on a small, evasive target, with full 6-axis motion, making use of cover.

[@ryankoza7584]

air cannon?

[@pyalot]

Bolas shotgun shell.

[@iDorkyDucky]

Jam the controller instead bruh

[@theon2769]

...The drone and controller is connected via fiber optic cable, you can't jam a fiber optic cable electronically.

[@Jimmythefish577]

Anyone who uses the term ‘bruh’ is clearly an idiot.

[@billpetersen298]

Hopefully Taiwan is learning from this 🍯

[@pitmarkovic4545]

@Vzzdak Talk absolute true that Man knows what's did talking at comments here!!!That fibre-optic like same TOW also cable and at comments one talking the Point but maybe more possible to cut that fibre optic 😊

[@4i4ofester72]

LOL... Won't stop them.

[@gadgetgus]

⚠️ It is logical that drones are using fibre optic cable, as many munitions have done for years. ie. 1960's 'Swingfire', or the Spearfish torpedo, etc... ⬇️ However, the first wire-guided torpedo was invented around 1876, called the Brennan torpedo, so nothing new. ⬇️ There have been some countermeasures developed over the last few years, with more on the way...

[@mikyas392]

Scissors ✂️ ....

[@blurry_craft]

thought they've got the measure to stop da drones, one which looks like spiderman web to strangle drone' propellers if it's shot directly toward da drones eh

[@williamwillaims]

I doubt Russia is making the fibre optics....go after the supplier. Even Ukrainian sabotage could be effective.

[@brendonhunt668]

Can follow that cable back the 🐱

[@nic.h]

Sure, without exposing themselves to undue risk?

[@musicbruv]

@brendonhunt668 by the time you follow the cable back the drone would have hit it target.

[@Walterwaltraud]

Skyranger. Lots of them.

[@World_Explorer_GIS]

fly kites.

[@alistairjclark2433]

There are plenty of counters Soldiers dangle very thing string which gets caught in the drone for example from trees, windows doorways etc. cheap and easy counter. Shotguns and also AK rounds which act like shotgun shells this is better than actual shotguns since troops can just be issued a magazine with this type of ammunition. Why slice the cable when you could just ram the drone as I've seen dome with simply a stick attached. Failing that a shotgun as ive also seen them do. Airburst ammunition. I've seen one company with airburst ammunition fired from a 30mm on the back of a technical. It's cheap (relatively) and effective. Like all things in war multiple approaches will be used. Maybe soldiers will become specialised drone hunters (as I've seen some Russians) carrying power packs for hammers, shotguns and other gear to help take down drones. Lasers at the back near static infrastructure and hard points or mounted to navy ships where powers not an issue and auto cannons with airburst filling in gaps

[@musicbruv]

Good idea, just ask the Russian what the flight path is, and the target. 🙄

[@jongreenwood3029]

Shotgun?

[@mikeydapikey]

I have a idea 💡

[@orionsmith7668]

Cutting the fiber?? They are tossing hundreds of these things out there. How do you know which fiber in the web of old drones is the active one? Would have to be close to the drone to have a chance. At that point, why not ram it out of the sky as Ukraine as already shown effective? Trying to cut the fiber seems rather pointless after sorting out which of a few hundred prior fibers caught up in trees, buildings, etc. Rather clever solution to electronic jamming/detection.

[@the-igloo]

how about an AI drone equiped with a shot gun

[@tedarcher9120]

Would work against recon drones bun not fpv ones

[@GLYDR]

Train birds of prey to land on/grab hold of the cables?

[@JojoJoget]

By running in zigzags

[@thomasohanlon1060]

Wonder how if a light frequency could penetrate the shielding on the fiber optic cable. To me right now light frequencies might be the way to defeat the fiber optic cable drones.

[@nightjarflying]

no

[@thomasohanlon1060]

@ was just thinking out loud, fiber optics are not my field, know nothing about how they are shielded or what would disrupt their function.

[@nightjarflying]

@@thomasohanlon1060 Obviously.

[@playerforty4621]

So if it flies 1km or 10km surely the majority of them get tangled in trees and such. The cable will fall to the ground. So how many are actually effective? Seems to me they are quick just to lauch from field distance away. 100 - 300m.... Not much countering other than shotguns or drone v drone.

[@thoughtpolice5191]

Snagging is not a problem at all. The coil is on the drone itself and it unspools as the drone flies. They use wires up to 20 km long.

[@musicbruv]

@playerforty4621 think about what you are saying. The cable is not moving so it cannot get snagged.

[@rowanyuh6326]

Birdshot probably

[@xZaibx]

Underbarrel grenade launcher bolas

[@grahamjones3259]

Can they not be melted? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@nic.h]

Easily in a furnace, not so much in the air

[@TërnocBesa]

✂️

[@rogerhudson9732]

😂The Royal Navy need laser defence from drones now not in a a couple of years. UKRAINE is the warfare laboratory and the advances of AI are needed now!