Ford 2000 Three Wire Alternator and Dashpod Conversion

[@oilyragsgarage7200]

This is a very reliable alternative if you can't get your old gauge cluster repaired. Enjoyed the video, top work👍.

[@tractorman4461]

Well its not too much about whether or not to make the repairs....I just don't want to. Lucas parts are not the easiest thing to come up with and are quite expensive when compared to the availability and reasonable costs of the components I use. All of which are available at virtually any auto parts supply house across the nation. Much easier to trouble shoot like this too. And don't forget....a lazy man always wants to do things the easy way.... LOL Now, if I were a restorer and not a user, I would jump through hoops to repair virtually anything on the tractor to keep it original. Thanks for stopping in today. I appreciate your thoughts.

[@oilyragsgarage7200]

@@tractorman4461you're right those Lucas's parts aren't that cheap, and it's not as good. Really want to install an alternator on my 3000, but also wanted to keep the tachometer. Pity it's driven off the generator.

[@tractorman4461]

@@oilyragsgarage7200 There's a company out there that makes an accessory for the back of the Delco alternator that hooks up to the end of the shaft and allows the Ford tach drive to hook right up to it. You'll have to google it...maybe something like ' alternator conversion kit for Ford tachometer'. I really don't care about a tach. None of my old antiques have one and that's what I'm used to. LOL

[@akquilter3519]

That was most interesting. You are an excellent teacher!

[@tractorman4461]

Thanks for the kudos....but I wouldn't think I'd go quite THAT far. Hahahaha, but thanks. (-:

[@skookumsawmilling7653]

These videos are just what I was looking for in the restoration of my Case backhoe! Very thorough and informative video.

[@tractorman4461]

Thanks Jerry, I'm glad its of some help to you. The tractor is still starting, charging and running on a near daily basis.

[@fricknjeep]

hi there nice job looking good john

[@tractorman4461]

Thanks John. It did kinda turn out ok by accident. LOL

[@DIYMyWay]

Hi Wendell! Bravo! Very well done. I bow to your impeccable fabrication skills! Looking forward to seeing you start that old Ford up. Thanks for sharing!

[@tractorman4461]

Oh its coming up soon....it in the line up waiting its turn. It might even be next...Thanks Martin for the compliment.

[@slimdusty6328]

Nice tidy alteration 👍

[@tractorman4461]

The next video in the series covers the checkout procedure and adding the one thing I forgot while wiring it all in on the tractor. This one will probably end up at my son's house with the right angle drive on the pto to power one of the buzz saws I converted to three point.

[@AmericanTradesmen]

Just one more reason I love your videos…the paint can bushing is genius! Looking forward to more content on the Ford 2000!

[@tractorman4461]

That dang pivot point must have either been metric or worn severely, but it wasn't 3/8 or 7/16. With 3/8 through it, it would track way off square when the belt was tightened. 7/16 wouldn't even start to go in. Go figure huh. Thanks Andy for the nice words.

[@Cinder2008]

I too enjoyed the paint can bushing solution. Thinking back, I recall my father doing the same thing 60 years ago. No fuses?!

[@tractorman4461]

We had a box of shim stock back on the farm. Various thicknesses of sheet brass all for this very reason. I still have some small pieces, but the paint can saves the brass for more important uses. I usually don't fuse the ignition, but as accessories like lighting or other loads are added, they will usually go through in line fuses. Thanks David for watching and commenting.

[@daveyjoweaver6282]

Good Morning TM44 Friend! What a Lovely job on the new dash! You could put the old one on your cycle just to throw people off. You could mount it on the old Ford sideways and use it for a cuppaJO holder, even on your chain saw! Imagine, cutting wood and havin a JObreak anytime? I have many many ideas but some may be nothing more than ideas. As I’ve always said, I have a huge brain but my skull is 3” thick. But good news fer ser! The Rough and Tumble is going to happen in a week or so. I am pumped and ready to go! I have seen some old steamers in action on a few Amish farms but this was just a teaser. So I was thinking, if you hooked up your favorite 44 to a wagon, set up a few cots and may be a cooler, started out about now, you might make it to Kinsey’s by t he time it starts. The Missus would have a great view on the way and you could set up a tarp in case it rained. Just tell the cops your just headin to the lower 40. You could also set a few tractors on the wagon to work on for a demo brought to you by the 44 Ranch, sell some wheelies from your BBQ grill and pay for gas. Just one of my many ideas! But I’ll be sure to send you some phodoz indeed! So this is DaveyJO rocketing off to another exciting cuppaJO I’m tipping your way! Be sure you and the Missus get your vitamin J for the day and please do give her a squeeze or pat for me and whisper sweet do nothins in her ear! Now me outta here!

[@tractorman4461]

Hey DsveyJO !!! You’re right !! I could hang that on my SuzukiDavidson or my MasseyDeere and carry THREE cups a JO with me whether at work OR play !! LOL. I do believe sir, that you are a genius. Quite the idea man. You are not only thinking outside the box you e entered another box altogether !! LOL. Always an entertaining experience to see your comments ol’ buddy. I am glad to see your computer troubles are solved …. We hope anyway. There is at least one more of your comments I cannot get a reply to. I dunno why that happens. Take care and try not to sweat too much today. I’m a welding on a project right in the sun today. Tippin and a sippin a fine cuppaJO …. Stay cool.

[@daveyjoweaver6282]

@@tractorman4461 I tell ya, the words that this machine comes up with over my special spellinz is weird! The town is Kinzers we’re the R&T is located and it was cookin weenerz nor wheelies,,,,could you even cook wheelies? I was thinking today,,,,I know, a bit spooky, that you could offer TM44 JO cop holders made from odds and ends from about the 44Ranch, eh? And I did forget to mention before how I did indeed enjoy your vid, as always. And yep, sure enuff is hot and humid but it is summer after all. But welding in this sun we’ve been having is a bit toasty! I suppose you had your welding tutu on? Perhaps a camo one! Enuff of my DaveyJO foolery for one eve and ibid you a due due but not a dodo! I’m off to another exciting adventure in this easy chair as I tip CuppaJO your way! ☕️☕️☕️☕️🧚🏽‍♂️☕️☕️

[@douglasnolan4858]

Great video!! Thank you for all the detailed explanation.

[@tractorman4461]

No problem. I hope you found your answers. Did you by chance find the whole playlist on the project..? If not, here it is: kzbin.info/aero/PLk72G9DTzZ1ud7EttOd9HeA6diEdU2tU9

[@mattthescrapwhisperer]

That new dash turned out great!

[@tractorman4461]

Not the most stellar sheet metal project that's crossed my bench, but it is very functional and secure. Thanks Matt for stopping by today.

[@Bret4207]

You do much neater work than I do. Never seems to be enough time to do it neat, just get it working and GO! Semper Fi!

[@tractorman4461]

Hahahaha....well Bret, retirement HAS its benefits. LOL. I do my share of 'hit and run' too....I just don't record it. Thanks for the visit man. S/Fi

[@1lilfarm]

Very cool video! I got a lot out of that. Never thought about using thin tin from a can to make a bushing. I'm always drilling things out and using a piece of pipe. I like the can trick. Love the old Mill! Always wish I had something like that around the shop. I'm usually using a small grind wheel on a drill or a round file for making slots. It works but, it takes time and sometimes you don't have much time. Thanks for the lesson on figuring pulley speed. 👍👍👍

[@tractorman4461]

First thing I did was check to see if I had a 7/16 bolt long enough or a piece of 7/16 all thread....nope. Had to go this routine. Been there and done that many times for many things. Any mill is better than no mill. This little guy is my 'go to' for quick and small projects. I save the Bridgeport or the monster Kearney and Trecker for the big stuff. Back in the day I made so darn many repairs or adaptions with a rat tail or flat file it'd make a fellow cry at the thought. LOL. Glad to see hear you enjoyed the vid !!

[@ButlerOutdoorsCanada]

Great job Wendell!! That dash cluster looks awesome!! You're knowledge on those gadgets blows me away man!! Ide be lost without a cause if I had to plumb all that in!! Again Great job!!!

[@tractorman4461]

Hahahaha....its like a little bitty mouse eating a HUUUUUGE block of cheese....just a little nibble at a time and you'll eventually get done with the project. LOL

[@ButlerOutdoorsCanada]

@@tractorman4461 very wise words sir!!!

[@RCAFpolarexpress]

Good evening mon ami, you are truly a very knowledgeable tractor technician Sir !!! YOU ARE OUTSTANDING MON AMI !!! Great math's calculus on your fun to read written description Sir ; ) Cheers !!!

[@tractorman4461]

Thank you Dave for the visit. I know things have been busy with your new location and I am failing my duty of keeping up with your productions mon ami. Joe too. Dang now I feel real bad...ain't that the way it is though. Life is just so busy and there's not enough hours in the day to do all we want to do !! Sincerely though, I thank you for your continual upbeat comments.

[@RCAFpolarexpress]

@@tractorman4461 Sir, do not worried mon ami , yes it is busy time for sure !!! Keep up your great productions Sir Cheers

[@rmendes2mendes915]

Thank you for that video I’m converting mine too

[@tractorman4461]

If your tractor is a heavy daily use tractor, I'd suggest drilling and tapping the head at the location of the existing temp sensor instead of doing what I did on the block drain. This works fine for my light use machine, but I don't think its quite as accurate as it should be for steady heavy use. You'll get a much better reading at the original location.

[@markjoudrey7036]

Looks really good

[@tractorman4461]

Thanks Mark. I think there's a little more follow up coming too....

[@kenreeve6549]

well done and thanks for the info

[@tractorman4461]

No problem Ken, I've not edited the video on the Petronix electronic ignition yet. But soon. Thanks for the visit today.

[@mafarmtown2086]

Interesting video, well described as always!

[@tractorman4461]

It is a little tough to cover all the bases, so I add what I can in the description box. Of course virtually every video I do starts out as a 45 minute to hour and a half video, so tons of editing causes a lot of detail lost. But you just can't leave the videos that long...no one would watch them....so the shorter the better keeps the attention. There are some vids that just HAVE to have 20 minutes or more...but the video analytics tell the story quite well. I can usually tell which ones will keep viewers engaged or not. Buttttt...it is what it is huh !! Thanks for watching.

[@GrampiesWorkshop]

How's she goin'? Nice job changing this tractor over!!! Lots of handiwork required and you got it all done pretty nice. Good work. Take care!!!

[@tractorman4461]

Hey Mike !! Thanks for the kudos. It WAS kind of a fun project. It seems to be reliable so far and no smoke out of the wiring yet....that's always a good thing. Thanks for the visit ol' buddy.

[@fat-bald-guy]

I like the 3 wire way better than a 1 wire.

[@tractorman4461]

I do too. I like to know for sure it's creating output without thinking. A quick glance at the LED let's you know instantly when that happens. I like seeing the voltmeter as well, but both are better in my opinion. Thanks for watching today DB.

[@angrybill]

I am fairly sure that that alternator mounting hole is metric. Seems like, just as we are abdicating our porous southern border to all of those Mexicans and such like, we are also giving away our tried and true standard measuring systems to the European metric system. I am a voice in the wilderness, I know. Also, I wasn't able to see it in the video, but did you bush the open all thread between the alternator pivot and the rear end of the mounting bracket? I That is a critical wear area and without that bushing the alternator will squirm on the all thread and elongate the mounting hole.

[@tractorman4461]

I was pretty sure it was metric as well...and I came close to drilling it to 7/16, but I didn't have that size all thread on the shelf. Yes, I did in fact bush the full length of the mounting bracket for the exact reason you described. Its unfortunate, but I do have to edit a ton of stuff out of the videos to keep them to a moderate length and that's just one of them portions that was cut out. I should have said when I was making the bushing that that was why it was so long. It was the exact length of the bracket. I share your chagrin about the slow change to metrics....Thanks Bill for the cool comment. There's more to come...

[@dakotahanisak6414]

Great idea i will do the same to my ford i am also an air conditioner man

[@tractorman4461]

Cool Dakota. I've got a few years in HVAC under my belt....actually more than 4 decades !! This Ford is still running like a top, firing almost instantly and charging perfectly. I just like having standard parts from any auto parts store instead of having to get Ford parts from a Ford dealer. The closest one is 40 miles away but I've got 6 auto parts stores within ten miles.

[@woodboogerfarm]

I have a MF 135 gas perkins eng....having a fit with it, I have rebuilt the starter, changed the alt, new cap, plugs , wires and battery...You put the 3 wire on and done away with the volt reg that was on yours?

[@tractorman4461]

Yes, I usually gut them all and start from scratch. On these blasted Fords, they have the electric gauges and sensors and they are kinda pricey. So I change them all to standard gauges and a standard internally regulated alternator and walk away from 'em. On Fords, I've done this 2000, and 4500 Backhoe and another regular 4000 just to simplify them. And I've done the same on Massey Harris's, Olivers, Allis Chalmers and quite a few others as well. What kind of problem specifically are you having....??

[@woodboogerfarm]

​@@tractorman4461 its odd...sometimes I get spark and sometimes I dont...there have been a few wiring jobs on it before I got it...Idk if I should just get the alt with the volt reg built in or what.

[@tractorman4461]

@@woodboogerfarm Well, I'd address the charging circuit later. It really hasn't got much to do with the ignition circuit. To determine if the problem is between the battery, key switch and distributor, determine if its positive or negative ground. Then take a wire from the appropriate battery terminal directly to the side of the coil that comes from the key switch temporariy. That will ensure there is continual power to the coil to see if it will start and stay running. If it does start and stay running, the problem is in that portion of the circuit that is bypassed by the jumper. If it does not stay running, the problem will be between the coil connection and the internals of the distributor. Many times the circuit will ground itself out inside the distributor due to a frayed wire or missing insulator. I've had a couple short out right where the wire and grommet passes into the distributor housing. But there are also many other things that cause intermittent running, but this is where I start with each one.

[@andrewsmith941]

Where did you install the temperature sensor.

[@tractorman4461]

I put it where the block drain was. It should go in the front of the head where the original one went though. This will be fine for a tractor that's not worked hard.

[@regsparkes6507]

I was thinking about that vintage of Ford Tractor, model 2000. Does the '2000' mean it has a 2 or 2.2 litre gas engine I wonder? Also, you mentioned that it had Lucas electrics, so would engine have come from one of the Ford plants in Great Britain ; Ford of England sure did have a lot of plants there as in Kent, Dagenham, Dorset etc. That's a nice conversion your doing there Tractorman, makes for an interesting video too.

[@tractorman4461]

Both very good questions Reg. I still don't know the size of the 3 cylinder engine. LOL. IIRC, most all the '000' series Fords were fitted with Lucas electrics as original equipment. I had (2) 4000's and another 3000 and their systems were identical to the 2000 here. Not a single one works. I can't remember what the 4500 had, but I converted it to this exact set up years ago. I changed this one to Petronix electronic ignition too....video in the wings. LOL Thanks Reg for the visit. Also I have no clue as to the origin of the actual power plants.

[@regsparkes6507]

@@tractorman4461 I asked this Wendell, because I have had a lot of equipment that used the Ford Dorset diesel engines, namely a fleet of some 35 Ingersoll-Rand 150 CFM portable air compressors. Those were made in the British Isles, but cant remember where. The "Dorset' engines were from Ford of England and were all diesels. Lucas, "the prince of darkness" rears it's ugly head again, so it seems! Cheers Brother!

[@tractorman4461]

@@regsparkes6507 I knew there was a reason for the query. Btw, were those Dorset Fords three or four bangers ? I would LOVE to have one of those IR 150's right now. I have a big three cylinder two stage that's pto driven but its not near 150 cfm. It'll knock a chunk out of 120 though with the right tractor on it !! I'm just sorry I have no input for you on my engine. Now if it threw a rod or dropped a jug I'd HAVE to find out. Let's hope I don't have to.... LOL

[@regsparkes6507]

@@tractorman4461 The model 2711E Dorsets we had were all 4 cylinder engines and ran like a dream. ( for those times ) Re ' making a picture window in the block' Heaven forbid! Those IKR Compressors we had were back in the early to mid 1970's, and me too, I wonder where they all went! They were nice engines, I thought.

[@tractorman4461]

@@regsparkes6507 Thanks Reg for the additional information. I'm darn near certain my big one is an Ingersoll Rand. IIRC, its something like 38'' across the set of jugs. The unloader is operating kinda wanky right now. It unloads at 120, but just for the heck of it I run a ball valve cracked just a tad to keep the pressure guage right where I want it. Just to be sure. I do need to replace it though.

[@inscoredbz]

I have a Ford 2000 diesel, can you explain the wiring? I have no problem getting a gm alternator to bolt on, but I don't know where each wire needs to go. I assume the factory voltage regulator is removed, but where does the three wires on the alternator connect? Just like you, I'm going to use the three guages and remove the factory cluster. The tack I could care less about, it doesn't work anyway. Thanks

[@tractorman4461]

Take a look at this diagram I made for this tractor in the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/homsmWpul6mlZrc Its got all the connections and where they go, eliminating the ammeter and using a voltmeter instead. The only thing I missed was the neutral switch which I added during the wiring up video. But you should be able to see the three wire connections and I think I remember explaining it wire by wire in the video. Take a quick look at the playlist on the 2000: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJbQq6Skp5uce80 I would suggest though to try to find a sensor to fit the opening in the front of the head for the temp gauge instead of doing what I did. This series shows how I made the new gauge cluster out of heavy gauge sheet metal. This tractor is not going to work very hard any more, but if it were going to be used heavily, I think the location I adapted into is probably not the best. When I do these changes, I gut the whole tractor and start over with all new wire and wire loom. I buy automotive wire in rolls at the auto parts stores.

[@inscoredbz]

@@tractorman4461 thanks, I'll give those videos a look.

[@tractorcounty7522]

1st

[@tractorman4461]

Hahahaha...somebody's got to be. LOL Hope you enjoyed it.