FORD 351 CLEVELAND ICE IGNITION INSTALL AND TIPS

[@MattJamieson-c7b]

I just want to thank you immensely for this video. I used it to set my timing and firing order on a 74 351 I’d never heard running and it fired first pop with perfect timing.

[@plumbs7199]

I’ve got one on my Clevo . I can highly recommend these systems over the likes of an MSD ! Crane f 246 at 50 . 22 deg initial and 10 deg total all in 2800 rpm is from memory was program A . 10.8 to one on 98 . FYI .

[@thclevoking]

Thanks for the tip mate

[@davidgoodwin658]

I was thinking of buying a MSD 85804 distributor that has a crab style distributor cap. My mid engine Pantera does not have very much room between the firewall and distributor.

[@richarddame7057]

Hey I have just installed my ICE system but not too sure which curve setting to use my engine is not quite as wild as yours so what do you think would be a good starting point?

[@cescop8812]

What curve select would you start with on a fresh build ?

[@BGDAV]

Any recommendations for getting a dizzy machined down to fit a late cleveland block? The hyperspark I have to install for sniper doesn't come in black motor block dizzy shaft size 👎

[@thclevoking]

Its easy with a drill, 5/16” oil pump drive shaft, a good flat steel file, sandpaper and a vice. You use the drill to spin the shaft and a block of wood to stable the shaft as it spins you gently file it at a lowish speed with hardly any pressure. It’s only 12.9mm to 12.5mm it’s really easy. Sandpaper to smooth it out at the end.

[@BGDAV]

@@thclevoking thanks mate I'll do that

[@sheepdog4041]

Perhaps get a pro to grind it down......costs fk all if anything.

[@nameundetected6867]

Hey clevo king, just curious can a clevo bore be sleeved? I know somone selling one dirt cheap, it’s been played with before “30 tho over piston” 351 crank, but it has pitting in one cylinder and I know 30 over is about the safe limit. Just thought I’d ask before pulling the trigger on buying it.

[@thclevoking]

Of course you can sleeve one. A lot of people don’t know the sleeve material is better then the original metal and helps form a better ring seal.

[@nameundetected6867]

The Clevo King cheers bud 👍

[@stephenyoung1094]

you really have shop around good blocks are still out there and be honest on how hard you are going to push a std block . How much do you value the block I did a chev boat motor that had 2 x .040 over pistons in a std block old owner only fixed the dud bores this mentality was enough for us to recycle the block and get another

[@davemarsden7750]

Greetings from Canada mate, so I rand new to owning a clevo engine, even having what I believe are timing issues , so what I'm getting from your video is that setting initial timing when installing a a new dizzy is around 8 degrees on stock engine ? I believe my engine to be stock. What is your recommendation for all in timing and at what ram? Installing pertronix igniter II dizzy

[@thclevoking]

All in timing to be safe in the low 30s mate if they engine has an aftermarket cam I have the initial up around 10 👌

[@davemarsden7750]

@thclevoking thanks ozzy i plan on doing a rebuild soon on the timing chain and gears and cam kicked in your cam swap video but that may be next year

[@davemarsden7750]

@thclevoking what would be a good rpm range for the 30's all in with it being stock

[@thclevoking]

@@davemarsden7750 all in around 2800rpm with a stock cam that increases with the cam

[@davemarsden7750]

@thclevoking have you ever heard of a cylinder running 200 to 300 degrees farenheight hotter than the other cylenders? For example my # 1 #2 #4 cylinders run around 500 degrees # 3 is always sometimes 200 degrees hotter you think this is timming issue or internal engine issue? Like I said I'm new to this cleveland stuff

[@aaronblyth596]

I heard that the ice ignition module box needed to be installed inside the car, not in the engine bay. Is this right ???

[@thclevoking]

It should be but that was the customers preference mate.

[@michaelrawlinson8406]

I know I need the 4 v headers for my 65 falcon can you give me a good reference on a set that will fit in the car ! Thanks again in advance

[@michaelrawlinson8406]

It will have a 4 speed top loader transmission in it also if that helps! Thanks again

[@richarddame7057]

Hey guys love your work! I have decided to buy an ICE system for my 351 Cleveland after the ready to run MSD shit itself. (After watching your video) 1/ what spark plugs are you using? 2/ Do I really setup the ignition facing 3? 3/ Should I get the large cap or small? Cheers Rick

[@thclevoking]

I like to use autolite 25s, you don’t have to set it up like that but it’s the neatest way to do it. Large cap is great for higher revs because the terminals are further apart less chance of spark jump but you can’t use a huge air filter. Small caps is the go for most street cars.

[@richarddame7057]

Thanks boys if you see an orange & black XBGT around the area that’s me. Cheers Rick

[@michaelwines7546]

Nice work guys Coming up a treat 👌👌

[@Morgan-h5f]

My coil is on head as well & i have vac distributor , but still helpful ;)

[@jetxr8]

Awesome video; always very helpful....

[@quonyoung1280]

Once the distributor gear is meshed with the cam gear why cant you just put a socket on the crank bolt and turn it until the distributor drops in 🤔

[@thclevoking]

The oil pump drive engages long before the dizzy gear does, so I just bump the oil pump not to interfere with my initial timing. What I show is the controlled method so you know the timing before initial startup. Welcome to do what works for you 👌

[@quonyoung1280]

@@thclevoking just a thought cool though👍

[@TheRCMaster]

Awesome video bro 👌 super helpful information in there 👍

[@MeatballGarage]

Nice one Ozzy! Do you have a preference between using the ICE Set up over a MSD 6AL/2 combo? My Clevo is going to get some more spark power this year and am hearing good things about both. What has your experience been? Can't wait to hear this thing fire up!! Cheers man 👍

[@thclevoking]

I have fitted way way more MSD setups, ICE is the leader at the moment.

[@MeatballGarage]

The Clevo King cheers man! Seems to be the common feedback - way more MSD boxes out there but ICE seems to be more of a favourite for the Clevo crowd - 👍

[@plumbs7199]

Number 1 for the ice ignition system! Easy to install and program. Hot spark and good quality! Very happy with mine on a hot street f246 cam Clevo !

[@MeatballGarage]

@@plumbs7199 Sweet mate - Thanks for the feedback!

[@BGDAV]

Great vid with info 👌👌

[@Tomlanky]

what extractors are you running on this car ?

[@thclevoking]

Pacemaker tri y

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Looks good men, great video for sure.

[@thclevoking]

Thanks Boss, been enjoying your videos too with the fuel pump rebuild tips!

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@thclevoking appreciated, will tell my wife, trying to get to put it back together, when we all can get back out in the shed. Great channel you have King. stay tuned.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

@@thclevokingappreciated it. I will tell my wife. Just need to get it back together.

[@marksmith2726]

Nice work bloke, But i don't get the $5 crappy fuel filter you use and i always see on peoples cars. Go get a decent micron filter that you can pull apart and clean out regularly and that's not in the engine bay getting all the heat.

[@thclevoking]

We are not a fan of the glass ones that screw apart had nothing but trouble wiith them, but I like the Aeroflow and magnaflow sealed billet filters. It’s easy to change the filter once an engine is broken in and the $5 one has done its job ro let us see fuel. Nothing worse then not knowing what’s happening with the fuel, and with the cheap plastic ones you can see there is fuel the sky is the limit with filtration possibilities afterwards.

[@pnr9730]

Thanks again mate.

[@blairread4414]

Yes..👌👌👌👌...

[@nova467spanker]

"A Bee's Dick" hahahaha

[@petergreenwood4005]

Your not ment to mount the controller in your engine bay