Ford 5000 and 7000 PTO Lever Detent Repair

Yes, the tractor is a 6610, but some where in the past, a previous owner replaced the rear end with one from a 5000. This is why I like Fords, because for 30 years of tractors, main components will bolt together. Some internal designs changed a little, like the pto lever and valve. That's why this video isn't labeled about a 6610 pto lever. Happy Fixing!

[@jankotze1959]

Nice fix, it was easier than i thought in the beginning, I was expecting a split of the tractor in two

[@sarkisi]

Lift cover is one way to get to the pto clutch. If the tractor has Load Monitor, then splitting might be necessary.

[@jankotze1959]

@@sarkisi Thank You

[@duanemoore-6553]

I got a small farm in northern Ohio, and I really enjoy watching your videos

[@davidwatt7663]

Such a robust tractor these 1000 series Fords and simple to boot 👍👍 Wise Choice Jacob . Great video as ever👍

[@pagrainfarmer]

Interesting fix. You sure aren't afraid to tear thing apart.

[@joshuayamnitz5503]

I have the same issue with my 5000, glad you posted this video!

[@dehavenfamilyfarm]

Wow, a couple hundred bucks for a new one... Glad you could find a used one!

[@train1962]

Into the Belly Of The Beast.

[@jamesmorrison1884]

Hello fun repairing things Jacob nice job. Have a good day.

[@railroadman57]

Great job Jacob your very talented young man bravo 👏

[@Hinesfarm-Indiana]

Neat video 👍👍. We have 4610 with a loader on it, their a great tractor.

[@Budd56]

Maybe you could cut down a pushrod to make that pin, if you could find the right size of pushrod. Just thinking out loud. 👍👍✌️

[@frankscruggs4749]

Good video.

[@rogercansler3709]

$230. for that?? Well guess I shouldn't be shocked price wise. Needed a steering part for our old case, nothing special but an obsolete fitting. $270. I feel your pain.

[@Farmerupyonder]

Nice video. Thx again.

[@ethantrout2407]

Nice job

[@johnkissack5295]

Good job!

[@coburnlowman]

So is the PTO on these ran off a hydraulic motor? I've wanted to understand the PTO on these for a long time , but never had a reason to tear into it. It's nice to be able to just put it in gear while the clutch is engaged.

[@3cx71]

It uses a hydraulic clutch pack,with hydraulic pressure from.the hydraulic pump,the lever presses a valve to supply hydraulic pressure to clamp the clutch plates.there is a shaft goes from splined hub in the centre of the flywheel to the centre of the clutch pack,there's a splined hub on the back of the clutch pack that engages with the splines on the friction plates that connects to the pto shaft.

[@JamesonWard2434]

My wife inherited a 5000 and the transmission has a dipstick attached to the fill plug. On the rear end it has a fill port at the top behind the seat but I can't find where to check the oil level.

[@greencastlefarms6595]

The transmission and rear end share the same. So the dipstick is for the transmission and the rear end. It takes New Holland 134 Hydraulic oil. It’s best not to put anything else in there to protect the pto clutch and seals in the hydraulic top cover. Also always good to park it with the 3 point hitch lowered.

[@sarkisi]

@@greencastlefarms6595 Ford 5000 without Dual Power (most of the models sold did not have it) has separate oil reservoirs for gearbox and rear axle. If the gearbox filler plug has a dipstick then the rear axle has a level plug on the left side of transmission case near the pto axle. About the same level as the axle stub. If combined transmission, the oil levels are still different. The oil is pumped to the gearbox via a cooler and from there it flows through gearbox back plate openings down to the rear axle. If the oil reservoir is shared, no dipstick on the filler plug but it is on the left side of transmission case, behind pto cluch lever pin. The separate gearbox uses 80W-90 GL4/5 oil but you can use also M2C-86A/B or newer wet brake hydraulic/transmission oil. Ford 5000 has simple straight cut gears in gearbox. The rear axle must have wet brake oil filled, without it the brakes lose power or have severe judder.

[@greencastlefarms6595]

@@sarkisi m2c-134d is what belongs in there. Or simply just CNHI Ambra 134 from the New Holland dealer. You must be in a country outside of North America. You are correct about the difference between the dual power and standard transmissions. I wasn’t thinking about that. It’s been a while since I’ve seen one without dual power. Oil is fairly critical to get right, especially when there are “spec” oils being sold in US stores that are made of used electrical transformer oil and whatever other slop they scrape off the floor. There are lawsuits about that right now so it’s best for North American Ford tractor owners to stick with the dealer/factory recommended oil instead of what is on the shelf at the local tractor supply. Love your Ford 7000 videos! I have a row crop 7000. Original owner and less than 4000 hours.

[@waynejones5239]

Nice video

[@JMo268]

It makes me sad to hear those parts are scarce and overpriced. One of the things I love about Fords is my belief that they still make parts and most parts are interchangeable between models of the same decade so there's a million of them. My 3000 injectors are the same injectors in my 5000, for instance and they're only $25. VS $950 for an injector on my late-model Kubota.

[@lukestrawwalker]

Unfortunately Ford Tractor Division sold out to New Holland in the late 90's... it's been downhill for big blue since then IMHO. Now they are merged with CaseIH to make CNH, since they both got bought out by FIAT (Fix It Again Tomorrow)... they REALLY went downhill after that! I had a couple different dealers/salesmen/partsmen tell me the story of what happened... Basically when Ford Tractor Division sold out to New Holland, Ford had wanted out of the tractor business and free up capital for their automotive division or whatever... BUT the Ford parts network was NOT part of the deal. New Holland had to negotiate a separate deal for that, and they wanted it cheap, and refused to budge. Ford refused to let it go cheap, so they ended up keeping it. That kinda left NH in a lurch, but one of their own making, so much so that they ended up actually having to get Caterpillar to handle their parts distribution for a year or two after the merger while they had to go through the expense of setting up their own parts network from scratch. This of course cost them a lot of time and money, and it INSTANTLY drove the prices of Ford/NH parts through the roof, as anything Caterpillar touches is turned to gold (LOL:) and NH wanting to recoup some of their costs of setting up the parts network. NH also decided to take it out on the farmers and just basically quit sourcing parts for all the old Ford shortline equipment, the implements and machinery manufactured over the decades by other companies (like Kelley or Dearborn for plows/tillage/planting equipment and some thing slike cotton strippers and corn pickers, Claas that built the Ford 620/630/640 combines, Long (IIRC) that build the Ford 642 combine, Gehl that built the Ford 552 round balers, etc... Ford had a TON of shortline equipment as all their implements and stuff weren't built in-house but were simply repainted/rebranded from other manufacturers painted blue with Ford stickers on them and Ford numbers assigned to them). NH decided to just quit providing parts for any of that stuff AFAIK... some of it was getting really hard to get parts for anyway like our Ford 640 combine and the old Dearborn and Kelley plows and stuff... Anyway, NH just froze all that stuff out. They also jacked up the prices on all their parts, and NH is just harder to do business with in general IMHO... for instance I was getting most of my parts from our dealer in Shiner, 90 miles west of Needville (when I was still living on the Needville farm) instead of at Wharton because the even though the Wharton dealer was only 23 miles west of us instead of 90 miles, the Wharton dealer was harder to deal with, would leave parts sitting on a pallet for a few days til they'd break the order down and call us that our parts were in, etc. The Shiner dealer was having the parts sent straight to us from NH, which was a HUGE time saver for us and labor saver for them-- instead of getting our parts on their pallet and having to enter it all in the system and call us to come get them, they'd arrive off the UPS or Fedex right at the farm, saving us a trip to go get them. Makes perfect sense. OF course after a few years of this, NH put a stop to it... parts ordered from the dealership had to go TO the dealership, so despite the fact that the Shiner dealer was very punctual about breaking down the pallet shipments and calling us the same day they arrived at the dealership, a 90 mile trip after the parts killed a day for the most part, so I just usually got the parts from Wharton again despite them wasting a day before they called me my parts were in-- time wasted was the same, but at least i wasn't blowing half a tank of gas to drive 90 miles to get parts. (Now that we live on the Shiner Farm it's not a big deal so I get my parts at Shiner again; the Wharton dealer p!ssed me off years ago when I bought the 5610S... I'd called him first and he quoted me a price of $21,000 and offered $6000 in trade for my '68 Ford 5200 row crop, or total driveout price of $15,000. I called the Shiner dealer he quoted me a price of $18,000 list and offered me $8,000 in trade for the 5200, for a total driveout price delivered to Needville for free of $10,000. Naturally I wrote him a check and they delivered the tractor a few days later... When I went to buy filters for it and change the oil and everything, I just went to Wharton and bought them. The owner quizzed me on when I bought a 5610S? I told him... He got a sour look on his face and was like, "He shouldn't have sold you that tractor-- we have protected territories!" I looked him straight in the eye and said, "Well, if he hadn't, I wouldn't have bought that tractor from you anyway... I'd have bought a Massey because they offered me a better deal than you did anyway... " He looked like I'd slapped him in the face and he turned and stalked off to his office... I had to laugh. He had his chance not my fault he blew the deal!) To be continued...

[@lukestrawwalker]

Continued... At any rate, that was the reason Dad and Grandpa always farmed with Ford tractors and a lot of Ford equipment... Not only were the tractors cheaper up front (Grandpa paid like $8,000 for the 5200 row crop brand new in '68, which is what they have me in trade for it 20 years later! I actually wish now I'd kept it... it was a h3ll of a nice tractor with tilt steering wheel, high flat deck, etc... ) Not only was the Ford cheaper to buy up front, but the parts were WAY cheaper than John Deere or International Harvester or Case or the other brands.... Dad and Grandpa bought the Ford 640 combine brand new in '74 in Victoria, it'd been sitting on the lot a year or two and they got it for like $12,000 brand new-- it was a rebranded "Claas Senator" model repainted from the Claas lime green and red to Ford Power Blue and had a Ford 300 inline six industrial engines in it. We still have it, used it to combine sorghum, corn, and soybeans in the late 90's and early 2000's before we quit row cropping in '03... Been in the barn since. Dad had worked for International Harvester and John Deere as a partsman and mechanic, but we ran Ford tractors... Ford never built a cotton picker (they did have a one-row tractor-mounted cotton stripper built by Dearborn back in the 50's that Grandpa started out with for awhile back in the 60's) so we ran IH single and double row cotton pickers... then when Case IH quit providing parts support for their older pickers in the late 80's/early 90's, once we'd exhausted the "fence row" parts machines we neighbors trading parts with each other on, we scrapped them and bought used Deere cotton pickers... At least Deere supports their machines with parts, unlike stupid red IH junk. Screw CaseIH-- only thing IH I own now is a 470 disk, and I can get parts for that anywhere... I wouldn't even think of buying anything red unless I could get it ridiculously cheap, because I don't trust CaseIH to support it with parts. NH now is just as bad... since the buyout they've screwed us over on parts for the Ford 552 (Gehl 1400) baler, among other things... and now that the whole mess is merged with Case IH and owned by FIAT, well, it's about like AGCO... just bunch of loser companies that sold out or went broke rolled up into one ball of grease... H3ll we don't even have any AGCO dealers in this part of the country anymore-- the last one in El Campo went broke or closed up shop about 15 years or so ago-- it's owned by an oilfield service company now who bought the old dealership. I briefly looked at a fairly new Massey disk mower on a caddy at the local NH dealer, considered buying it... dealer told me that I'd have to go to the dealer down in Victoria an hour away for parts-- they're a NH dealer but have an AGCO shingle out front as well, still order parts anyway even though they don't sell any AGCO equipment that I've seen... Even the CaseIH dealer, who drove the old Case dealer out of the business after the CaseIH merger by whining to corporate that HE had just built a brand new dealership, and so the Case guy should be FORCED to build a new dealership too... he refused because by the 80's, Case had lost a LOT of ground in the market and his main customers were the big rice farmers where JI Case had always done really well-- most rice guys loved the big Case tractors in the 50's and 60's to pull the big land planes and drills and irrigation plows and stuff, big disks to prep land and then drag auger carts through the muddy flooded fields in summer combining rice... and Case sold more than a few combines back then too and even some drills for seeding rice... but by the mid 80's and the merger, Case was suffering badly... all they had left of their line anymore was tractors and both IH and Deere were heavy competition in the big 4WD market which by then dwarfed the old big 2 wheelers Case had been their bread and butter in the rice market, and while Case had the 4890's and 2390's and stuff, it was all they had left anymore of their line. Which was a big part of why they merged with International Harvester (or were bought out by Tenneco or whatever). Dad had considered a Gleaner combine in '74 but the Ford outclassed it in everything... 18 foot header versus 15 foot on the Gleaner, etc... He and Grandpa paid for that combine in a year doing custom work... it was that good... At any rate, CNH parts now are just as high if not higher than Deere, and Deere is higher quality, plus Deere is MUCH better at supporting their older machines with parts availability... CaseIH/NH not so much... CaseIH and NH have made me a big Deere fan because of that, particularly for self-propelled equipment... If the parts are the same price or higher, might as well have the Deere IMHO... one of the big reasons for going Ford Blue was cheaper machines and cheaper parts, not as many bells and whistles but it got the job done. Now with the prices for new stuff pretty much the same and even used stuff about the same, and parts cost the same, Deere is a lot more attractive... have the bells and whistles for the same money, why not?? Cost of parts being the same sure cuts off the differences and attraction of CNH that's for sure... That's the way I've heard it from several different guys anyway, as best I can recall anyway.

[@lukestrawwalker]

Well, and Kubota is a foreign brand, what Korean or Japanese?? Those parts are super-expensive anyway... why I'd never own one of them. Dad bought a Mahinda which I wasn't a fan of but that was his toy the last year or two before he died, his decision. At least no DEF and parts are fairly cheap, made for poor people in India...

[@joelmollenkopf3767]

Interesting

[@anderleof]

Show us the Case!

[@boehmfarm4276]

It'll come

[@tr165eaglebsa4]

501 likes haha, hope things are doing well.