Ford Air Ride Rear Suspension Down Diagnosis & Fix

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FordTechMakuloco

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@thomasmcnulty2604
@thomasmcnulty2604 2 жыл бұрын
To this day your video is still helping people and kicks ass!
@jackieknapp6474
@jackieknapp6474 7 жыл бұрын
I APPRECIATE PEOPLE LIKE YOU who take the time to make these videos! You saved me money I didn't have and gave me quality time with my pop! God bless you:)
@Clif-gj7kl
@Clif-gj7kl 8 жыл бұрын
I have an Expedition-1998. Rear pump went out. So I determined that soon the front would go out and cause me to spend more money. So I purchased a conversion kit to go with springs and shocks for the front and back. ($419 for the kit). Now the vehicle sits stronger and slightly higher, giving me a smooth ride and a peace of mind.
@ajparr
@ajparr 9 жыл бұрын
This video was a great starting point for fixing the same problem on my 2010 Navi. Thank you for taking the time to post it!
@gravitationalwavemaker9521
@gravitationalwavemaker9521 8 жыл бұрын
ajparr what was the problem with your 2010 navi? I got a 09 navi with same problems
@ajparr
@ajparr 8 жыл бұрын
The rear wheel wells were only about an inch above the tires and when driving it, any bumps at all caused long oscillating bouncing in the rear end. Good luck fixing your '09, but it should be fairly straightforward!
@edgarromero131
@edgarromero131 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the relay on your 2010 Navi? I have an 07 and i cant find that relay? Please help
@Darkwardrums77
@Darkwardrums77 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, sir!! Had a "Check Susp" light on and the compressor wouldn't turn on.. Ended up being a loose plug into the relay.. Zip tied it up and we're good to go.. Thank you for your awesome and helpful videos!
@donl3381
@donl3381 3 жыл бұрын
Hi can you pls tell me where to find the plug to the relay that you zip tied?
@robertmalone483
@robertmalone483 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on air tube routing, common fail points, how to locate and repair air leaks? I’ve got a 2003 Navigator to repair. PS: Great Job on your videos (a small laser light helps identify parts in tight places ….)
@derrend7614
@derrend7614 3 жыл бұрын
This video very very helpful still..was my relay..saved me a ton of time and a super easy fix
@froglobster
@froglobster 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! My 97 Continental wouldn’t lift...I went to my local wreckers and got the relay from another Cont 7.95 all good now! Ford was $365and Lordco was $182......read too many about conversions where the car ride feels like a truck ride now having coil springs no thanks. Also the Cont in the wreckers I got the compressor and height sensors and Arnott air bags- sweet ride now!
@froglobster
@froglobster 5 жыл бұрын
December now back end won’t lift after all the switch outs....☹️
@danscythes8621
@danscythes8621 Жыл бұрын
Where is the relay located
@jaredpompa2816
@jaredpompa2816 7 жыл бұрын
Question: First, thank you for the video. I have a 2010 navigator that the rear suspension drops intermittently. what are your thoughts on that. It will drop while driving, but then once the vehicle has been turned off then back on, it lifts and is good for a day or so. any advise is greatly apreciated.
@aramos811
@aramos811 3 жыл бұрын
I own a 2007 Lincoln Navigator Ultimate and my check air suspension light comes on now and then. Do you have any videos for that year and make to diagnose the issue?
@timmurray7639
@timmurray7639 8 ай бұрын
Great video. Should air bags be replaced in pairs and is there a good aftermarket bag or is it best to use Ford bags
@reidejensen4990
@reidejensen4990 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Thanks for posting! I have a 2008 Expedition. My problem is the rear will sag like you show in your video however when I start the car and go in reverse or drive it will start to pump its self back up. This is random, in other words it can maintain its normal height for a couple days and other time it will sag every day. Any suggestions? Thank You in advance for your reply.
@rendelkirby4908
@rendelkirby4908 8 жыл бұрын
very helpful fixed it for 157.00 changing out the relay control. mine was oxidized bad and cracked. tx for posting.
@bigbubba1384
@bigbubba1384 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a expedition if you do I would look to ask you something do ford expeditions have the power to do a burnout
@scottb5933
@scottb5933 8 жыл бұрын
Dude perfect...thanks for taking the time to provide a detailed video w/simple clear instructions!!! :)
@dannyrivera3322
@dannyrivera3322 10 жыл бұрын
HI GRETA VIDEO IT DID HELP ,JUST WONDERING WHEN CONNECTED TO A TRAILER DO I RUN IT WITH THE SWITCH ON OR OFF.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 10 жыл бұрын
On it will compensate for the trailer weight.
@dannyrivera3322
@dannyrivera3322 10 жыл бұрын
THANKS
@froglobster
@froglobster 5 жыл бұрын
On your fourth wire light tester at minutes 6:48 seconds where are you running your power wire?
@darlenecasper3557
@darlenecasper3557 9 жыл бұрын
I have a 2000 Expedition the relay and springs were replaced 4 years ago by ford service. I did the test you suggested by disconnect and reconnect and the compressor worked. Thank you for this video. I replaced just the relay only but then the sag happened again. So does that mean the pigtail needs to be replaced like you mentioned? How is this pigtail replaced?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
+Darlene Casper Most likely yes it does easy test is to unplug and plug it back in and retest if it work now you know.
@ginamaco7193
@ginamaco7193 9 жыл бұрын
+FordTechMakuloco... I have a 2003 Navigator and all 4 bags are down. I replaced the right front blown airbag.The compressor is activating and air is coming through the lines to all the bags. I can hear all 4 air bag solenoids clicking on but it still isn't raising. Any ideas of what else it could be? I figured that changing the bags on the front as well as the o-rings on the back would have fixed the problem. still nothing. Any ideas?
@jamesbrewster1964
@jamesbrewster1964 9 жыл бұрын
FordTechMakuloco, I have a '00 that I thought had sagging rears. I followed your steps and tested the connector, and the compressor kicked on. I don't have the proper equipment to test the two smaller wires, but I think the relay works because when I turn the truck off, I can hear clicking that sounds like the relay working. I started looking at the height sensors, it looks like the rear one is extended, but the funny thing is that the rear bags are full to the max. What do you think I should check next?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
James Brewster The relay does not click it is solid state and is likely your concern still.
@ooohhhsnap9241
@ooohhhsnap9241 3 жыл бұрын
Hello and thank you for your videos, quick question, I have replaced my bags and compressor (208k miles on original) however the compressor runs intermittently and drains the battery even while parked with no key, do you think this is a plating issue or do I have a very small leak somewhere?
@MCHNCTCH
@MCHNCTCH 8 жыл бұрын
Hey FordTech. Great videos. I was wondering if you knew about when the compressor comes on to often. I have a Lincoln Navigator 01 that has the rear height sensor @2.4 volts and the front at about 3 volts. Both sensors seem ok when I move them up/down the scan tool voltage goes up/down. When the compressor comes on the front gate/fill solenoids come on usually. Is the the front height sensor voltage too high? If the car sits it doesn't drop after a couple hours
@marinoperna
@marinoperna 2 жыл бұрын
what scanning software/hardware are you using? 2005 navigator but i cannot get any of my scanners to view voltage to each or any sensor
@kblend7225
@kblend7225 8 жыл бұрын
I have a question hope you can answer, 2001 lincoln navigator 4x4 symptoms compressor cycles on and off continuously untill suspension light comes on also after car sits off for about 40 minutes compressor runs and rear end drops. I checked for leaks and I did find a leak in the front right ( p side ) air shock housing not the rubber the shock rides on or the fitting but the housing. so that explains the compressor cycling. Now for my question can that leak cause the rear to drop as described. Thanks I appreciate your help.
@kblend7225
@kblend7225 8 жыл бұрын
So I replaced the shock, compressor still runs continuously, the rear looses pressure overnight but if I disable the system it does not loose air. Any thoughts?
@aronchatterton4274
@aronchatterton4274 8 жыл бұрын
did you ever find out your problem?
@kblend7225
@kblend7225 8 жыл бұрын
No
@ygbodybuilder3023
@ygbodybuilder3023 8 жыл бұрын
did u find out yet because im having a simlar problem with my crown vic
@aronchatterton4274
@aronchatterton4274 8 жыл бұрын
honestly no, i gotta put off working on it for a few weeks but you can keep hitting me up bout it cuz when i figure it out ill prolly forget to message u bout it
@Rhinotuff619
@Rhinotuff619 9 жыл бұрын
I have a 1999 Ford Expedition 4WD with four corner leveling. My rear is sagging when parked AND leaning hard to the right when running. What should I look for?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
David Feinberg Leaking air bags from cracks in the bag.
@abelrubio5409
@abelrubio5409 3 жыл бұрын
@@FordTechMakuloco great video! I have a cuestión, would podible put a lift kit plus the stock air suspension? Thank you !
@JEHERETIC
@JEHERETIC 5 жыл бұрын
Mines too high... Any suggestions
@drwombat
@drwombat 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this video. Is this system the same on panther chassis with air suspension cv, p71, town car, etc? All info seems to be about the SUV models
@darlenecasper3557
@darlenecasper3557 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you again. But I remain confused to your response. If I replaced just the relay, then a week later the sag happened again. I unplugged and replugged the new one and it worked. How do I know it is not going to sag again.....til I wait again. So your answer is to replace the pigtail also? And how is the pigtail replaced?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
+Darlene Casper Next time it happens where the rear is sagging and the pump is not coming on like usual disconnect and reconnect the relay pigtail, if it now comes to life and work you know you need to replace the pigtail.
@Benjamin06267485
@Benjamin06267485 4 жыл бұрын
I NEED to know what is that sound on 6:19 to 6:21 where like the back makes a sound... like lowering or leaking? Because everytime I turn off my 2000 Expedition and close the doors it will make that sound... Thank you.
@davidtross125
@davidtross125 4 жыл бұрын
Where exactly is the air compressor n relay located? I thought I missed it in the beginning but it wasn't mentioned
@josejorgegonzalezmorfinez3621
@josejorgegonzalezmorfinez3621 4 жыл бұрын
Under left head light.... Back the fog light
@SUCCESSWITHBUDDY
@SUCCESSWITHBUDDY 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for the same thing mine thanks
@earnestinehinton2529
@earnestinehinton2529 9 жыл бұрын
i have ford expedition 2000 eddie bauer and yesterday i heard a noise like air leaking out of a tire and my rear dropped. so, now the rear will not raise. does that mean the complete rear suspension and struts have to be replaced.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
+Earnestine Hinton Likely a bag failed if its that bad.
@jarodmorris611
@jarodmorris611 9 жыл бұрын
+Earnestine Hinton I didn't think an Expedition with pump and air bags have struts because essentially aren't the air bags functioning like the struts? I just bought a 1997 Eddie Bauer Expedition with rear suspension issues but I haven't crawled under to take a look yet.
@earnestinehinton2529
@earnestinehinton2529 9 жыл бұрын
+Jarod Morris it was the lines to the bags were bad
@DrLuigiPhd
@DrLuigiPhd 5 жыл бұрын
I switched to tradional spring and shocks from air suspension. Do you know of a way to stop the check air suspension light in the info dash center? I don't think I left the ride height sensors on otherwise I could just tie them up and bag them. I read about cutting one wire to fool the computer, but it was on a lincoln mk6.
@DANBED20021
@DANBED20021 5 жыл бұрын
Well it depends on the year! I personally know that it is done via the media control center on the 2008 Navigator!
@Nopanic631
@Nopanic631 4 жыл бұрын
Hey did U ever figure it out I got a 05 n it’s converted but the dam beep from the alert is killin me did u find out how to get rid of it?
@CENTURl0N24
@CENTURl0N24 9 жыл бұрын
We jumped the 2 wires on the pig tale and the pump came on but the car did not go up. With out jumping the lines, the pump does not come on. I replaced the relay and no change. 2 questions: Should the car go have gone up when we jumped the lines? What do I check next?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
+CENTURION24 The system is faulted therefore the module would never turn on the rear air spring solenoids to fill. You jumped the two wires but did you check all the other inputs?
@DANBED20021
@DANBED20021 5 жыл бұрын
1) what year is this vehicle? 2) where is this relay located?
@danieldyer1
@danieldyer1 5 жыл бұрын
Having just done this troubleshooting yesterday, the pigtail and relay are best accessible by turning the front wheels all the way to the right and then looking in the passenger side front wheel well towards the front of the vehicle.
@DANBED20021
@DANBED20021 5 жыл бұрын
@@danieldyer1 thanks but I was looking for an 08 Navigator! Its located in the under the hood junction block! Referring to the relay! I finally found it after calling multiple ford and Lincoln dealerships! You can also control it in this vehicle year range via the media center! Using the "set up" and the "RESET" buttons on the the media center!
@tonyhern2647
@tonyhern2647 7 жыл бұрын
found some oem springs to swap out for the air spring. is it a direct swap. can I just change them out with out having to make a modification​
@markfryer5289
@markfryer5289 4 жыл бұрын
On the 07 expedition it is easy access by removing the passenger side head light everything is right under it
@user-ok2yl5nk7q
@user-ok2yl5nk7q Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent tutorial. Fixed my 2001 easily!
@NorthwayFordLincolnBrantford
@NorthwayFordLincolnBrantford Жыл бұрын
Where is that relay located??? I have the splash Shield off and the headlight off can’t find the relay!!!
@travisjohnson8078
@travisjohnson8078 9 жыл бұрын
is the relay fused? would it be necessary to locate the fuse for the compressor beforehand, and replace it if needed before running any tests?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
+TRAVIS JOHNSON Yes but it is 60 Amp fuse so almost never blows until the compressor is totally seized. That first big wire will tell you if its blown all while checking the rest of the system all from the same place.
@duumahh
@duumahh 5 жыл бұрын
Wish the problem was simple for me. Ive replaced a new air compressor, air bags, and relay switch. Spent 2 grand through mechanic shop and still lowered. Asked about the pigtail and the auto part store has no clue what that is. Can you be more specific please?
@printissgraham4930
@printissgraham4930 4 жыл бұрын
I have that problem you say 2,000
@fortunatedad7695
@fortunatedad7695 Жыл бұрын
A code should pop up for suspension problems right?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco Жыл бұрын
yes
@fortunatedad7695
@fortunatedad7695 Жыл бұрын
@FordTechMakuloco now I got a c1726. Nothing came up before and my suspension was lower than normal, I was confused. Thanks man
@ronbaynes2755
@ronbaynes2755 7 жыл бұрын
I have both an 06 & 07 Navigator. Would the air suspension pump from the 06 fit the 07 if I needed to swap it out ? Thanks !
@jujuey3balls979
@jujuey3balls979 7 жыл бұрын
99 Navi with the rear low. Getting no ground from control module. Anything to check for other than just replacing the module? Thanks
@rebeccasickels7116
@rebeccasickels7116 9 жыл бұрын
you are awesome you have helped me fix my gator and rebuild the motor in my taurtus THANK YOU!!!!
@danielchumley1
@danielchumley1 8 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a 1999 Continental with Air Suspension in the rear only. The rear is flat on both sides and the pump will not turn on. I thought it was the ride height sensor so I replaced with no fix. I ran the tests on the plug in this video assuming it was pretty similar to the Expedition and all of them passed except the last one. Another thing I noticed is when I jump the hot to the ground and let the pump run for 3 minutes it would not lift the car. Any input would be greatly appreciated!
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 8 жыл бұрын
+MaxDiff328 In general since the module found a fault in controlling the solid state relay it is not commanding the pump on so it never opens the rear solenoids. I do it manually with the scan tool. What you can do is fake a connection on the low current ground control from the module at the relay this way it powers the test light and thinks everything is ok then it will open the rear solenoids and then you jumper the relay pigtail as before to get the pump to come on and watch it rise.
@chuycastro2259
@chuycastro2259 6 жыл бұрын
MaxDiff328 ni mi
@jamesbroomfield7799
@jamesbroomfield7799 3 жыл бұрын
Is that relay in front or back of the truck
@ericsmith6355
@ericsmith6355 6 жыл бұрын
I need help understanding what to use for the power when I jump my sensor fordtechmakuloco you don't show what your wired to for power in the video when you power (jump) up the compressor?
@Eternallucidnightmares
@Eternallucidnightmares Жыл бұрын
What color is the thin wire next to the thin green wire. Can’t tell the color of it in the video. Are the thin wires specific to number 3 and 4 on the harness or if the green wire is hooked up to 4, will that matter?
@fordinator
@fordinator 10 жыл бұрын
Great video. Question, ii have a 99 navigator here. The pump runs when jumped the middle small wire works as ground. The end little wire doesn't ground. Cold this be bad connection or would this mean a larger problem.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 10 жыл бұрын
Is the rear height sensor and linkage connected up and not fallen off? If so I would have it looked at with a scan tool so they can check the height sensor voltages etc to see why it is not commanding it on.
@fordinator
@fordinator 10 жыл бұрын
FordTechMakuloco currently both sensors are hooked up and appear to work.
@DavidLee-wx1ku
@DavidLee-wx1ku 5 жыл бұрын
Is the WPT392 pigtail you listed the correct connector for a 1998 Lincoln Continental Air Suspension relay? I would think that all Ford connectors for this part are the same because the Amazon link you have listed says the pigtail won't fit a 1998 Continental.
@bigrob19891
@bigrob19891 9 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about running my compressor to a toggle switch and turn it on when i want to. Thoughts on this?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
robert thomas Wouldn't work unless you wired in the control solenoids in the air lines too.
@bigrob19891
@bigrob19891 9 жыл бұрын
FordTechMakuloco i gotcha. My copressor is good and so are bags and everything and i also changed out my relay and my compressor will kick on but not like it suppose to. Right now my expedition is dragging ass
@Tiobolo713
@Tiobolo713 Жыл бұрын
A lot of times you can put a fuse as a jumper the fit perfect when jumping a fuel pump module
@builtbybil
@builtbybil 9 жыл бұрын
I HAVE A 2008 FORD EL EXPEDITION WITH REAR AIR RIDE. I REPLACED MY FRONT SHOCKS/STRUTS AND NOW I BOUNCE GOING DOWN THE RAOD. THE COMPRESSOR SOUNDS GOOD AND THE AIR BAGS FILL UP. ANY SUGGESTIONS?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
Bil Brunson So front is not air ride right?
@louiselee842
@louiselee842 7 жыл бұрын
Bil Brunson I
@louiselee842
@louiselee842 7 жыл бұрын
FordTechMakuloco
@wallace5515
@wallace5515 9 жыл бұрын
Hello. I also Enjoyed your video.Problem: 2003 Navigator 4wd All test pass except the ground command from the air suspension module with the test light as it appears at a bout the 6 minute mark. It failed to light up the test light. Also the new comp would not come on.I had replace the old compressor because it was to loud and would come on constantly while driveing. If I Disabled the comp. with the switch I could go for days in good weater no problem. Next when out and started up and comp. came on and pumped up, can you tell me why?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
***** If you have the old style solid state relay as shown in this video then the pigtail is likely the culprit they are very common for this concern. There should be a link in the description.
@wallace5515
@wallace5515 9 жыл бұрын
FordTechMakuloco You mean the pig tail with 4 contacts would cause the compressor to come on and off while driveing and how could it cause it to not work then after 12 hour suddenly start working?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
swal779725@cox.net They have pin fitment issues I have seen it plenty of times before. Next time when it is not working and is low put vehicle in park all doors closed and disconnect and then reconnect the pigtail if it now works you have just found your problem.
@wallace5515
@wallace5515 9 жыл бұрын
FordTechMakuloco Key On or Off, also what is pin fitment, is the replacement pigtail from dealer after market? Also thanks for all your help.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
The pigtail linked to is a Ford unit. Pin fitment is where the pin tension is not sufficient and there is connectivity issues intermittently.
@DavidTheMechanic
@DavidTheMechanic 9 жыл бұрын
what if you have no current at the control wire the last one that you tested on mine everything is fine except for the last test which is the control wire does that mean I have a bad control module?
@mfdao
@mfdao 8 жыл бұрын
What was the problem?? I'm having the same thing!
@Udurrani68
@Udurrani68 5 жыл бұрын
Where is this relay located?
@marcoantoniorodriguezmarti3095
@marcoantoniorodriguezmarti3095 7 жыл бұрын
FOR WORK COMPRESOR NEED TO CLOSED THE FOUR DOORS?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 7 жыл бұрын
+Marco Antonio Rodríguez Martinez yes
@jimtaggart5720
@jimtaggart5720 4 жыл бұрын
Where is the exact location of the air suspension relay on a 2008 Expedition? Thanks.
@matthewkee7727
@matthewkee7727 9 жыл бұрын
I have a 1998 Lincoln Navigator the compressor will not kick on but if i bypass it like you did in the video the compressor will work the second test you did with hooking a window motor up I also did that and that worked but the very last test did not work I could not get my test light to light up what would be the cause the test light is good. I checked first..
@texas_hill_country_outdoor9532
@texas_hill_country_outdoor9532 7 жыл бұрын
had this happen to me found out there was a o ring on the dryer that was going into the compressor was cracked, replaced it and now everything works great for the time being
@barberpoleaviationmcfall8030
@barberpoleaviationmcfall8030 3 жыл бұрын
Dude this video rocks
@TODDSTAPLES
@TODDSTAPLES 9 жыл бұрын
1997 2wd expedition. rear end drags if it sits overnight. if I just touch the pigtail, the compressor kicks in and the rear rises. probably corrosion in the pigtail? the Motorcraft version you speak about has about 1 foot of wire of the connector, and I'm not sure where they go. so I just cut and splice near the connector?
@TODDSTAPLES
@TODDSTAPLES 9 жыл бұрын
My issue is getting worse. It now takes a lot of pressure to get the pigtail to make connection to the relay. ANy ideas?
@Montgomerygolfgator
@Montgomerygolfgator 9 жыл бұрын
+Todd Staples remove the battery, and try electrical contact cleaner. You might also try using an eraser around the relay pins. It works on computer parts, I don't see why it wouldn't work here.
@marcuslrobinson
@marcuslrobinson 10 жыл бұрын
hey bro. thanks for the vid. I have a question about my ford. the truck drops when ever the truck is off and when I turn the truck on and close all the doors it pumps up. but like I said if I go into the store when I come out the rear end is sagging again. might it be the same problem as in this video?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 10 жыл бұрын
No it sounds like your rear bags have cracks in them from dry rot. Does the compressor come on while driving to keep them filled?
@marcuslrobinson
@marcuslrobinson 10 жыл бұрын
Hey Thanks for responding. Yes it does come on while driving. I thought it might be a leak as well, but the strange thing about it is, the rear end doesn't always go down when I'm parked. About 5% of the time it stays up. Are the bags easy to replace?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah it just depends on the angle of the truck and how the bags settled. They can seal up temporarily where the bags roll over upon themselves. Jack up the back end let them deflate you will see the dry rot cracks and such. The bags are very easy to replaced on these. The pin up top may be rusted but besides that once they are deflated they pop right out.
@marcuslrobinson
@marcuslrobinson 10 жыл бұрын
Ok I'll take a look. Thanks again Bro.!
@richpeck-lippsplitter7213
@richpeck-lippsplitter7213 10 жыл бұрын
FordTechMakuloco- most informative media on the net! reattached the pigtail to relay and jumped the fat wires- both failed. logic and as you stated its the pump, direct power test and voila its alive however only front bags inflated. rear bags hold air. havent heard the pump run normally. thinking its the relay and pigtail? thanks again
@omardeleon867
@omardeleon867 10 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a 2000 lincoln navigator, so I'm pretty much unused to the air ride system and its problems. A few days ago the rear bags just stayed low, I didn't notice the air pump/compressor functioning before but everything was ok, 1st question, when is the air compressor supposed to turn on? at the very first moment you turn on the ignition? Because the only time I can listen to the compressor work (I think) is when truck is on Drive, but still air springs are not being inflated, so it is pretty difficult to check for leaks on 'em.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 10 жыл бұрын
Ok so it sat for awhile maybe overnight and you went to drive the truck and the back end was to the ground as in the video? Does it ever pump back up? If are really low they should pump back up with truck idling in park. Other wise they wont start to adjust till you put it in drive. Does the air compressor at least run when in drive but maybe not pump up the rear? Have you check the rear linkage for the height sensor they like to pop off on those models. I shown and example of the sensor at the end of the video.
@sirethanwalsh
@sirethanwalsh 10 жыл бұрын
really great video man - thank you so much for sharing. going to try and diagnose my kids Navigator tomorrow thanks to you!
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 10 жыл бұрын
Sounds good let me know if you have any questions
@dynamitescottwhite
@dynamitescottwhite 7 жыл бұрын
Any ideas on an equus that sometimes will sink on the rear drivers side?
@EPerez-iw9zp
@EPerez-iw9zp 7 жыл бұрын
can the compressor still power on if the suspension relay is bad
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 7 жыл бұрын
+Edgar Perez no
@EPerez-iw9zp
@EPerez-iw9zp 7 жыл бұрын
FordTechMakuloco Okay so my compressor still kicks on but the rear went down. I also replaced the bags a few years ago. a few months ago I started noticing the expedition going down when I would turn it off, then once I'll turn it on it will go back up to normal height, but just a few days ago it went down all the way and it has stayed down. any suggestions on what might be the problem.
@pringlecaleb
@pringlecaleb 6 жыл бұрын
We have this problem on our 1998 Navigator. Unplugging the pigtail and plugging it back in selectively kicks the compressor back in and pumps up the back end. Sometimes it works most times it doesn’t. I tested all circuits on the pigtail and they checkout. Is this just a relay problem or should I just replace both relay and pigtail?
@djamsoil
@djamsoil 9 жыл бұрын
Please note that the relay shown isn't used on 05,06 navigators.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
+Don A Actually it is mid year 2003 they switched to the standard relay.
@djamsoil
@djamsoil 9 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks, Really enjoy your videos. ...learning so much from them.
@dperfect28
@dperfect28 7 жыл бұрын
FordTechMakuloco My compressor comes on for 5sec the stop...03 navigator was sitting for over a month getting ECM fix, any suggestions?
@Blpsas
@Blpsas 7 жыл бұрын
Are the fronts down in this video?
@ToddOHearn
@ToddOHearn 8 жыл бұрын
What if I am not getting the command ground from the module?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 8 жыл бұрын
+Todd OHearn Then there is likely a dtc set for a height sensor therefore the system has been disabled.
@davidchampion7927
@davidchampion7927 9 жыл бұрын
2007 Expedition EL- Recently failed to toggle off the Air Suspension when towing a trailer and later when using a Hitch Rack (heavily loaded)...I get an error every time when the car starts that the Air Suspension is OFF, It does not give me the option on the Message Center to toggle it back to ON..Any thought? I have not noticed any sagging or handling issues.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
+David Champion Follow my pcm reset video and see if full operation comes back.
@johnespinoza4792
@johnespinoza4792 8 жыл бұрын
I own a 2007 Expedition. Recently the rear air suspension loses air. A few days later there is a loud grinding noise in the engine compartment and some fluid leaking right near the front differential gear. I checked and replaced both the short shafts on front end and the transmission. Didn't check the air pump nor dryer. Could the pump be leaking the fluid as well? Front air suspension maintains it's pressure.
@cb6628
@cb6628 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2000 Limited AWD V8 5.0 -- The pump seems to work as it's coming on all the time, and you can see the back lifting... there doesn't seem like too much noticeable sag. How would I check for leaks? Would you recommend converting from air to gas to just bypass the system? As of recently driving my vehicle feels like I'm in a boat.
@meganjordan6597
@meganjordan6597 3 жыл бұрын
I had a local mechanic say they replaced my shocks and struts but now it's worse. They are saying the only thing they know to do now is convert over to spring shocks and I just don't understand why they can't fix it like it's supposed to be fixed. I wish I understood everything u are talking about. I'd fix it myself
@jimbored88
@jimbored88 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2003 Navigator I think the air bag on the driver side back will not pump up but the other side pumps up do I only have to replace the side that is bad or do I have to replace the right and left bags.
@GoldyCraft79
@GoldyCraft79 3 жыл бұрын
0:10 I thought the Ford Expedition had no air suspension.
@billymovies
@billymovies 9 жыл бұрын
hi, thanks for the video, i have a 98 explorer with rear load leveling, the air compressor comes on every time i start, but during 20min of driving it shuts down and the rear sinks down and gets wobbly, when i stop and start again it is back on, do you know what would cause this?.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
+Birger Karlsen The compressor stays on while driving? If so first look at the air bags for cracks in them
@billymovies
@billymovies 9 жыл бұрын
FordTechMakuloco hi again, no they only adjust, but after driving awhile the compressor stops, the ass sinks and i get the warning light on the dash. i then have to stop the car, restart and all is good again. could this be the sensor?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
Birger Karlsen What I am not understanding is how do you know the compressor stops running? Normally it pumps up upon the suspension on start up to bring it back to ride height and shuts off and if there is no leaks it shouldn't come on until you park the vehicle it kneels and the process repeats. If its running anytime other then after the initial height adjustment there is a air leak likely in the bags causing the compressor to time out since it is air cooled to prevent it from locking up.
@andremorton1252
@andremorton1252 4 жыл бұрын
@@billymovies Hey, how’d you end up fixing the problem? It sounds similar to what I got going on.
@money89tractors
@money89tractors 10 жыл бұрын
dealing with an 03 expedition with air ride issues. it is a 4was setup. compressor kicks on when manually jumped. but i have no constant ground and no command on ground. a previous scan of the truck shows that one of the front height sensors was faulty. could that one sensor being faulty cause the system to not provide a command ground? Also, on the constant ground: could i wire it to a ground on the body to achive a constant ground for it? or is the constant ground controlled somewhere else? when i turn the pump on manually and let it run, the truck doesnt lift. if i leave the on/off switch in the off position and manually turn the pump on, the entire truck should raise correct? thanks in advance.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 10 жыл бұрын
money89tractors Yes I would replace the front height sensor as shown in my other video on 2003 and newer vehicle a faulty front height sensor will shut the system down. If you are having front height sensor issue you must have a late build 2003 with a regular relay not a solid state as shown in this video right?
@money89tractors
@money89tractors 10 жыл бұрын
Right. Its a normal relay just behind the headlight.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah then I would replace the faulty height sensor first.
@money89tractors
@money89tractors 10 жыл бұрын
FordTechMakuloco i should still have a constant ground at the relay correct? and then a signal ground. . . . i have no constant. can i simple hard wire the constant ground to a known ground source? or is that constant ground controlled elsewhere? Thanks for the help.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 10 жыл бұрын
If you have the new style relay it does not have a constant ground just two 12v inputs an output to the compressor and 1 switch ground.
@xhoustonkingx6212
@xhoustonkingx6212 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the relay for the air compressor on a 2012 ford expedition or Lincoln navigator? Can't find it anywhere or on the internet
@gustavohidalgojr.6343
@gustavohidalgojr.6343 2 жыл бұрын
Where is this module located on a2012 expedition El??
@andrewblaugh6988
@andrewblaugh6988 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 navigator but i can not find the air relay.
@tonyhern2647
@tonyhern2647 8 жыл бұрын
i have a 2002 expedition. the compressors turns on and the front pumps lifts but not the rear. is there more then one pump.
@doublegrant6015
@doublegrant6015 8 жыл бұрын
dr pepper is shit
@BigBadViperTurbo
@BigBadViperTurbo 9 жыл бұрын
I have a 2004 navigator. The pump comes on and raises the drivers side but not the passenger side, so I drive around tilted. Any ideas?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
+BigBadViperTurbo Rear only or 4WAS?
@BigBadViperTurbo
@BigBadViperTurbo 8 жыл бұрын
+FordTechMakuloco it is 4 wheel drive, and it was the front that wasn't raising up. The battery just went dead and now the entire thing isn't working at all after battery change.
@bradbair1405
@bradbair1405 7 жыл бұрын
FordTechMakuloco I have an 07 ford expedition rear air suspension. Passenger side pumps up drivers dont. No sign of air leak.
@tjmartin1085
@tjmartin1085 2 жыл бұрын
So the last small wire you test on the relay. If I jump the blue/pink (constant power) to the last wire black/yellow? and don’t get any light on my test light, what would be my problem?
@djamsoil
@djamsoil 9 жыл бұрын
Can you please tell me where the rear level sensor is on a 2005 Lincoln navigator
@Brownnproud91
@Brownnproud91 8 жыл бұрын
on the lower control arm its bolted on
@djamsoil
@djamsoil 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks. ..just found it....only one in back.... right side.
@Brownnproud91
@Brownnproud91 8 жыл бұрын
+Don A yes 1 per wheel it looks like a hydraulic stick sort of with a plug in piece
@mwilliams313
@mwilliams313 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2001 Crown Vic with Air Ride in the rear only. The air pump comes on but the rear does not rise to the proper height. Any tips on where I should start?
@usnapearce
@usnapearce 9 жыл бұрын
I have an 00 Navigator. The rear sags intermittently once I have parked the car (sometimes it goes down, but other times it stays up). When I crank it and start driving again, everything works fine. Could this be a relay issue or something else I should check?
@timothyshrader3626
@timothyshrader3626 9 жыл бұрын
My 2000 Ford Expedition still does that is that a bad thing but everytime I start it up it goes back to normal but what I park it it goes back down
@infamousnova
@infamousnova 9 жыл бұрын
i was hoping this question was answered. I have the same issue
@djkblend1
@djkblend1 8 жыл бұрын
same here
@Wu-TangLAN
@Wu-TangLAN 8 жыл бұрын
**i don't have a ride height problem ** i purchased a 02 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer 4x4: back in April 2016. the previous owner stated he had replaced the air ride compressor recently. He told me about an issue where the compressor will intermittently stop coming on (anywhere from 15-45 minutes of driving) and the check suspension light will illuminate on the dash.when that happens he said: turn off the truck and wiggle the air ride compressor relay and turn the truck back on which works but i can't keep stopping on a long trip every 30 minutes to wiggle the relay. what does this sound like to you
@drwombat
@drwombat 6 жыл бұрын
Bernard Gross did you watch the video? Replace your pig tail and for fucks sakes lend yourself a hand in informing yourself
@devynmonique4845
@devynmonique4845 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I locate the compressor? 2012 Ford expedition king ranch
@nicholasstritzinger2452
@nicholasstritzinger2452 8 жыл бұрын
I have a 1998 Explorer Limited and the air ride compressor keeps turning on and off. A line leak?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 8 жыл бұрын
More likely to have an air shock leaking as the suspension rebounds.
@richardkunka8022
@richardkunka8022 9 жыл бұрын
I have a 03 navigator and the Air compressor for suspension will not come on. what can I do
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 9 жыл бұрын
+Richard Kunka Is it late model where it does not have this style relay?
@richardkunka8022
@richardkunka8022 9 жыл бұрын
The truck is slam to the ground airbags will not inflate
@davidgonzales-rk9qh
@davidgonzales-rk9qh 7 жыл бұрын
Did you fix it?
@davidgonzales-rk9qh
@davidgonzales-rk9qh 7 жыл бұрын
Richard kunka did you fix it?
@Blpsas
@Blpsas 7 жыл бұрын
Are the fronts down in this video too?
@jackieknapp6474
@jackieknapp6474 7 жыл бұрын
My relay under the head light on the passengers side just had a loose connection! We also discovered my car had been in a flood something carfax didn't show I know now what to look for red clay is what we found on the steering column -Jackie
@bobdimartino6738
@bobdimartino6738 5 жыл бұрын
hi i have a 2003 grand marquis i changed the pump fuses are good relay is good still not working. does my car have that type of hidden relay or is that just the trucks thanks
@jameymagee2288
@jameymagee2288 9 жыл бұрын
my 2002 lincoln navigator has an issue I can't seem to fix. I have replaced the compressor and the relay. The pump comes on for a few minutes but the rear does not lift up. I cant seem to find any leakes.
@web1187
@web1187 4 жыл бұрын
can you disable this permanently like is that an option?
@Brooklynfishing
@Brooklynfishing 2 жыл бұрын
Hello good morning, I have a 98 lincoln navigator , with the rear sit low , the front came up ok, this all start since I install the brake light switch wrong, help me I change the relay same thing. Any fuse link to the rear thanks
@mattk4809
@mattk4809 7 жыл бұрын
So I did this and the last wire did not work, the control module ground wire... can I splice that and re ground it somewhere else or does it ground through the module? What's my options?
@lookingupwards8652
@lookingupwards8652 6 жыл бұрын
How about cleaning the contacts on the Connectors and putting dialectic grease on them if they’re not too bad that should work
@claymaddox2986
@claymaddox2986 8 жыл бұрын
I have a 2011 Expedition, rear end all the way down and the pump isn't turning on. Will these tests work for my year model?
@froggy4759
@froggy4759 9 жыл бұрын
my pump/compressor runs a lot but nothing seems to be happening, any ideas where to start?
@mikeyd2753
@mikeyd2753 10 жыл бұрын
Great video. My 1998 Lincoln Navigator Air Suspension quit working and the idiot light is on constantly on the instrument panel. All bags are deflated. I did all the checks mentioned. The compressor works fine when I jump across the two huge wires, and the middle ground wire all checked out perfectly. I even replaced the relay even though it was not bad. My problem is I get nothing on the 4th wire (Control Module). I did it exactly as mentioned in the video and still nothing works. Where is the control module locate on my 1998 Navigator? How difficult is it to diagnose and to replace? I have a pretty good mechanics background, but have not be able to locate the module; I think its under the dash somewhere. Oh, by the way, the air suspension on/off switch checks out good too. What else can it be. Chiltons and Haynes are clueless. Thanks, MikeyD
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 10 жыл бұрын
The control module is located right above the radio, you just have to pull the trim panel off. There are many reasons the module may not be commanding the compressor on. You can check the wire from the module to the relay and after that you will need a scan tool to check height sensor voltage park input etc.
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