Ford Fusion C-Max HF35 eCVT Transmission Removal Repair Replacement PART 2 of 2

[@NiXFiX]

Thank you for watching! Please like and subscribe. If I helped you complete your project, please consider Super Thanks: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6CXmGNuf9-YsM0 Thanks, Nick

[@badvwg]

Hello- I wanted to say thank you for posting these videos. They gave me the knowledge and courage to swap my noisy, bad stator bearing 2014 Fusion trans with one out of a crashed 2017. Followed your advice on matching up the final drive ratios, she works like a charm! Zero codes, no programming required. Truly plug and play. Thanks again!

[@PetesProjects0]

Outstanding video. Thank you so much for showing all of that detail.

[@styleauto1025]

Good video man thanks for sharing

[@NiXFiX]

Thanks for watching!

[@sergeytimchenko8994]

Thanks!

[@greetthevictors]

Wow. Amazing video. I’m getting ready to do the same job here in a few weeks. My transmission is making a whining noise. I hope it’s just the bearings. Thank for this video. It really was educational. Wish me luck.

[@NiXFiX]

Good luck!

[@pjleash]

Mine is whining. Was it just the bearings?

[@greetthevictors]

@@pjleash I’m in the middle of taking the transmission out. Should know in the know in the next couple of weeks.

[@markcrew3696]

I really enjoyed both videos I have a 2010 Ford fusion hybrid so even though there are some differences this really educated me a lot. Thank you

[@NiXFiX]

Thanks for watching!

[@iadubber]

Thanks so much for this 2 part series! I have a 13 Cmax hybrid that is now making a loud whining when only the generator and ICE are working. It's dead silent in EV mode. I'm glad to see I can hopefully drop the trans out the bottom without pulling the motor with it. Is the front subframe and the actual room to get the trans out the same in a Cmax vs the Fusion?

[@AFouad92]

Great video man, I can’t believe you did this in your garage without a lift. 😮 kudos to you Anyways, here are some questions for you 😎 Why did you remove the air filter and filter cover? 😅 Why didn’t you use orange coolant? Where’s the white cover that sits on top of the safety hybrids battery plug? How the heck did the transmission get full with 4.5 quarts 😮, last one we did was on a C Max it took 7 quarts Again, great video. I suggest programming the new trans in, some people say the TCM will kill the new trans faster than usual if you don’t vin match it (program it)

[@NiXFiX]

Anas, excellent comment! Thank you. Here are your answers: I removed the air filter and cover because the Ford instructions said to. Also, it made for a clearer video in some cases. I didn’t use orange coolant because manufactures, in my opinion, try to coax (actually, scare) their customers into buying their coolant. Ethylene glycol is a colorless and clear chemical. It is dyed certain colors by different manufactures, but its heat removal properties and resistance to freezing remain the same. I use wal-mart super-tech or Prestone coolant. They say “all makes, all models, foreign or domestic” and they are not wrong. I don’t know exactly what you mean by white cover over the safety hybrids battery plug, but if you mean the cover over the hybrid battery disable connection, I have the formed felt cover (I just didn’t feel the need to show it in the video). Ford says the transmission takes 4 quarts for a drain and fill. Thanks for the info on resetting adaptations (programming) the new transmission in. I will take that under advisement. Remember, adaptations are just that. Eventually the computer will learn new values (no matter the make or model). Thanks again!

[@AFouad92]

@@NiXFiX oh yeah we use prestone orange coolant and supertech pink for the Toyotas Theres a white colored cover right on top of the orange one, As for programming, it’s different than adaptation. If this was a brand new transmission you wouldn’t even be able to drive the car without vin matching it, but because it’s used you were able to drive it. All the modules in the car need to be matched to the same vin to work with each other properly. It might not be necessary, but Ford recommends it. Again, great job 👏

[@TheFrankman711]

Ford does not make the orange coolant anymore, it got superseded with the yellow motorcraft stuff and is even OK to mix with the orange one. There is a bulletin for that out there..

[@AFouad92]

@@TheFrankman711 correct, up to 2019-2020. This car is 2013-2016 style, it did have orange coolant.

[@natyocum6794]

I don't think there are any modules/circuit boards/chips in the transmission that can be programmed.

[@cagdasaykr2944]

Could you please make a video showing how to change the transmission mount for the Ford Fusion Hybrid?

[@rafaelbudagyan4279]

Good evening. Thanks for the video lessons. Can you please tell me the difference between the automatic transmission between the 2018 Ford Fusion Hybrid and the Ford Fusion Energy Plug-in of the same year? Or are they the same and go against each other?

[@NiXFiX]

I explain the differences between the hybrid and the energi in the first few minutes of part 2. The final drive ratios are slightly different between the two and the energi has an auxiliary fluid pump to keep fluid pumping when the engine is off.

[@pedr4n]

Hey Nick very nice content keep up the good work!!! By any chance do you still have the old transmission? I need a few parts on that particular one 2.91 final drive ratio if so and you’re willing to sell let me know thanks

[@pjleash]

I'm trying to locate a repair manual for my 2017 Fusion hybrid SE. There doesn't seem to be a specific one for hybrid cars. The Haynes manual looks like it covers a wide range of years, including 2017, but it excludes anything specific to hybrids, so I'm not sure the transmission removal part would be useful to me in that manual. On rockauto, they seem to have a transmission specific repair manual for Ford automatic transmissions (Haynes Techbook: Ford Automatic Transmission Overhaul), but again, probably not specific for the hybrid car. Can anyone tell me if either of these two manuals would still be helpful with removing my transmission and overhauling it? Or, are there any better manuals to look for?

[@beammeupscottsp7952]

So what went wrong with the transmission. I thought fords ecvt were reliable, based off Toyotas ecvt?

[@tliggexperience]

Hey man maby you know the answer to this, do the ford remanufactured transmissions carry the same defect as the original, or did they fix the problem for those units? Allegedly 2013-15 hybrids carry the defect and some time in 2016 they fixed it.

[@badvwg]

My 2014 received a reman trans at the dealership about 3 years ago, stator bearings in it went bad after about 70k. Just swapped it for one out of a 2017.

[@SoaringMidlo]

Fantastic work! Thanks for documenting the process. Looks like a lot of work, but I love my little C-Max enough that I might actually try it. I'm in the "loud" phase. Wondering how long I have until it grenades? Mine is loud at idle in park. No sound when driving on electric and it seems to go away after 15mph. Any sense for what that might be? Torque converter bearing?

[@NiXFiX]

Thank you. There is not torque converter in this transmission. But, the noise you hear is definitely a bearing. There are bearing replacement parts. It might be worth you replacing the bearings before the whole trans goes?

[@natyocum6794]

Thanks! This is a really helpful video. I have a 2013 c-max that has a loud transmission. A few questions: how did you find the used transmission? And how much did it cost? Also, how did you find the car in the first place?

[@NiXFiX]

You can find transmissions on www.car-part.com (which is a nationwide search of salvage yards). You can also use eBay. The transmission I bought was on eBay and showed up to my door for ~$2,500. I often search "needs" or "mechanic special" under cars and trucks for sale on websites (eBay, Criagslist, Facebook Marketplace, etc.) to find cars that need work.

[@natyocum6794]

@@NiXFiX thanks again, very helpful!

[@自豪蒋]

Hi bor, I'm about to buy a 2013 c-max recently, but that car also makes noise, I think it's the gearbox, has your car been serviced?

[@自豪蒋]

Hi bor, I'm about to buy a 2013 c-max recently, but that car also makes noise, I think it's the gearbox, has your car been serviced?

[@natyocum6794]

@@自豪蒋 I haven't gotten around to repairing it yet. But I wouldn't buy that car, if I was you. If you do buy it, make sure you have the purchase price reduced by thousands of dollars. It's quite expensive to even buy a salvage transmission, let alone the labor to have it installed. And who knows how long a salvage transmission will last.

[@vladimirdelaroca4315]

Hi, I had the same problem as you with my 2014 Fusion Energi and I replaced all the damaged parts and bearings inside the transmission because I did not have access to buy a new transmission. In my case, the change of parts did not work, the sound of the transmission is very loud and although it does not show any error, the sound tells me that something is not right. I am writing to you to ask if you did something special when you installed the transmission, especially related to the transmission oil pump, bleeding it or something that I did not do that could be causing the sound?

[@NiXFiX]

Hi. I didn't do anything special. As I recall, I just simply filled it with fluid.

[@karimmegdirector]

Hey hello man really nice job ! Well i am having another issue but i was looking at your video and you never really talked about one step THE TRANSMISSION MOUNT ??? Lol do you even take it out or you leave on in the trans ? 🤔🤔🤔. Mine is shot i need to replace the trans mount i see it i feel it i smell it but cant get to it unfortunately…. What would be your advice ?

[@NiXFiX]

I talk about the lower transmission mount in this video at the 12:39 mark. Are you talking about the upper mount? If so, did you watch part 1?

[@JayBonesg]

So I am in the exact same position you were in and I am having a hard time finding a replacement PHEV any tips or links on how to find the right one?

[@NiXFiX]

Ebay or www.car-part.com

[@goautomaxinc1432]

AFTER THE TRANSMISSION REPLACEMNT, DOES IT NEED TO BE PROGRAMMED

[@Gatorcat1]

I second this question.

[@Gatorcat1]

The answer is no. Got my car running this afternoon. I left a plug unplugged giving me a ground fault error. Car runs like new again.

[@JL_428]

Good video. Looks like a real PITA though. 🤣Where did you get the ford service manual. I ordered one off ebay and it shows a manual transmission. It must be a service manual for the European model.

[@salimalakbarov1828]

Thanks!!!Good job!!!🎉🎉🎉

[@jlb99999]

What did the salvage transmission cost if you don’t mind me asking?

[@NiXFiX]

$2500 which included tax and shipping to my door.

[@greetthevictors]

Where did you buy it?

[@jasonburkitt717]

​@NiXFiX what tool did you use to align the clutch

[@scottymiller2871]

Wish someone would do a 2016/17 fusion 2.5 gas the same way you did this one

[@AFouad92]

Those are totally different and more difficult. The hybrid is easy because it’s not considered a transmission, it’s a motor.

[@ryry7886]

I heard you are supposed to reprogram the new transmission to the transmission control box. You didnt have to?

[@AFouad92]

You have to. He didn’t. Call any dealership now they will tell you that as well. If you scan it you will see bunch of fault codes.

[@NiXFiX]

@@AFouad92 Disagree. I did scan it and had no fault codes. No check engine or any warning lights of any kind. Some transmission electronics are "married" to the engine ECM. These are not. Can you reset adaptations? Sure.

[@ryry7886]

​@@NiXFiX i see its been 6 months since you responded to the last question. Did you ever have any issues after replacing the transmission?

[@NiXFiX]

@@ryry7886 I didn't, but I sold the car ~5,000 after replacing the transmission.

[@naweed119]

You mean it’s same transmission 2013 Ford C max hybrid and Ford C max plug-in are they the same transmission?

[@NiXFiX]

No. The hybrid trans is the same for fusion and c-max. The plug in (energi) is the same for c-max and fusion. The traditional hybrid has a different final drive ratio than the plug in models. Also, the plug in models have an auxiliary fluid pump.

[@AFouad92]

Yes but you won’t be able to do a C Max in a garage, the engine needs to come off too.

[@NiXFiX]

@@AFouad92 Disagree. People pull engines and transmissions in a home garage all of the time.

[@AFouad92]

@@NiXFiX absolutely, just saying a C Max is not as easy

[@NiXFiX]

@@AFouad92 Also, let's be clear. The C-Max hybrid (FHEV) trans will interchange with a Fusion hybrid (FHEV) and the C-Max plug in hybrid (PHEV) will interchange with the Fusion plug in hybrid (PHEV). ...BUT... you can't interchange a FHEV trans with a PHEV. The final drive ratios are different and the PHEV has an auxiliary fluid pump on it for when the car is in 100% electric mode.

[@joseguadarrama255]

how many miles was on the car?

[@NiXFiX]

91,000

[@AFouad92]

@@NiXFiX 91k shouldve been covered under warranty. 8 years/100k miles transmission and all hybrid components are covered. We replaced bunch of them under warranty

[@rafaelgarcia-ew4wz]

Great job

[@KeepRolling1000]

Damn, that bearing failure scares me to get C-MAX. I can't afford to change the transmission to replace when that fails.

[@NiXFiX]

Get a 2016 or newer.

[@KeepRolling1000]

@@NiXFiX 2016 or newer have better built?

[@lmlm400b]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@rmyc]

*20 miles on the bat not 40