I made this video to show how the Ford IWE system works and what causes a grinding/ratcheting noise.
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@jasoncharles69808 ай бұрын
Best IWE demonstration on KZbin 👍
@SamSam-ke9zy3 ай бұрын
Seems that but way but it's s wrong. When the actuators are engaged (no vacuum) it is not in 4wheel drive. When 4wheel drive is engaged THEN the activator is engaged(or should be) thus completing the 4wheel drive engagement. This videos is worded saying the 4wheel drive is engaged when the IWE is activated which isnot correct. IWE merely engages the wheels to the driveshafts, otherwise the wheels are floating.
@TheStevensouthwellАй бұрын
@SamSam-ke9zy except you are wrong and he is right. Did you miss the part where puts vac to it and it disengaged and then he removes vac and it locks?
@OddItWorkedLastTime3 ай бұрын
AWESOME video. Just perfect. The engine vacuum drops under acceleration that explains why I hear the noise only with acceleration! Thank you.
@jcksonscko5272Ай бұрын
did you ever find the fix?
@jasonlagunes10845 ай бұрын
I’ve had bearings, front diff and brake work done on my f150 and I still have a similar sound, this video is the closest to what the problem might probably be thank you so much sir
@simpleinstinct2 жыл бұрын
This is EXACTLY the video I needed.
@BrassIsMyGold Жыл бұрын
Amen!!!!
@robertblawat10155 ай бұрын
Hell yea it was
@alhuthailiusa81515 ай бұрын
U solved the issue ?
@simpleinstinct5 ай бұрын
@@alhuthailiusa8151 Ford fixed it under warranty. IWE failed.
@zmccoyimi5 ай бұрын
It's the video we all needed.
@krispewkrem32 ай бұрын
THE best video on IWE. Idk why they didn’t just make this electronic. Vacuum is ridiculously complex and stupid.
@Zzrdemon66335 ай бұрын
That completely explains the noise I had on my last f150 while towing our travel trailer!
@poorbyuistudent2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of how the IWE works and demonstration of failure sounds/indicators.
@alhuthailiusa81515 ай бұрын
What does IWE stands for ?
@ksale225 ай бұрын
@@alhuthailiusa8151”Integrated Wheel End The IWE is short for Integrated Wheel End. This is a system that uses a vacuum to lock the hubs when you engage different drive modes on your truck”
@sqd37l5 ай бұрын
integrated wheel end@@alhuthailiusa8151
@ScottBennettMusic10 ай бұрын
I’ve owned a Ford Expedtion since 2017 and it has had this issue and required a solenoid replacement. I’ve been aware of this design flaw since I’m a member of an Expedition forum, but this visual demonstration is amazing and very underrated. Thanks for this!
@toddj.82452 жыл бұрын
I have watched countless videos on this subject this is by far the best one thank u so so much
@fernandobriseno81648 ай бұрын
Wow I never knew it could cause a grinding sound, I would have just assumed a bearing was the problem. Good info for future trouble shooting.
@user-rr5op1cr2l Жыл бұрын
That is the noise I couldn't pinpoint. Thank you.
@bluewater7211 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely perfect. Appreciate it. Exactly the sound duplicated and an explanation. Perfect.
@erwxn047 ай бұрын
what did you do to fix it
@bluewater72117 ай бұрын
@erwxn04 I took the locker hub out because it was old and needed to be replaced. But what actually fixed it was pulling the vacuum lines and the check valve, then putting the new set it. It took 2 hours ish. For the vacuum lines because ford sells it in hoke for $180 Canadian. And the hub was just the locker inside. Unfortunately that took 3 hours . Because I had it stuck on by the bolts .. but I'd assume a total of 2 hors if you have no luck lol. And I think it was about the same price for the locker hub. .. So a total of 500 and a few hours. Not hard to repair and then your good to go.
@ChrisMotorONE9 ай бұрын
That’s the same exact noise I’m hearing in my raptor! Thank you
@MS-mk5zw10 ай бұрын
To the point and very clear explanation. Thank you
@spinphoto Жыл бұрын
Driver side was just replaced under warranty and this explanation is perfect!
@dsiungerichАй бұрын
You're very lucky!
@spinphotoАй бұрын
@@dsiungerich yeah, I was. Now the AC Compressor is gone, just two months out of extended warranty.
@spinphotoАй бұрын
@@dsiungerich what’s your repair cost? When they did mine the axle was seized and so that was covered, tok
@iphonefreestylekid.9078Ай бұрын
Best video out there for this issue I appreciate you man
@konstantin_gabriel_official7 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I have on my ssangyong Rexton w 2016. Thank you so much!
@tonystout3972Ай бұрын
Great video that really explains source symptoms
@Branhawk5 ай бұрын
This is the best information about this anywhere! Thank you!
@jamesdonahue77015 ай бұрын
Phenomenal explanation
@aquaman01673 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to set this up and make this video!
@bludpumper1811 ай бұрын
Thank you. Helped me diagnose and repair my truck.
@scottyV10003 жыл бұрын
Thank you - I've been having a noise that only lasts a second and usually happens in the first mile of so at low throttle. When I step on the gas the noise goes away. I've replaced the check valve and the solenoid but i still have the noise. It's very hard to tell where it is coming from and I'm a little concerned its the transmission but I don't feel anything slipping or anything. The noise you are generating sounds very similar to what I'm hearing. When I replaced the two upper components there was plenty of vacuum in the lines a day later so maybe it is the IWE units themselves. I'm trying to narrow things down so when I take it in I can point them in the right direction otherwise I'm going to get the ole couldn't reproduce the problem answer and waste a day.
@bestofmma70432 жыл бұрын
Having the same issue did you find out what’s yours?
@scottyV10002 жыл бұрын
@@bestofmma7043 It was the IWE units. They replaced both plus the hubs (not sure that was necessary). One of the new IWE units was also defective so they had to do it twice but that was under warranty at least - it cost me $1400.
@bestofmma70432 жыл бұрын
@@scottyV1000 thankyou bro thought u weren’t gonna reply cuz it’s been 11 months ago haha
@scottyV10002 жыл бұрын
@@bestofmma7043 Just saw it today - I must have slow internet :-)).
@bestofmma70432 жыл бұрын
@@scottyV1000 and question man when you hear that grind do you have your cruise control on? And do you hear the grinding noise even your foot not on gas pedal? Cuz usually hear mine when I’m 5 percent on my gas pedal cruising but I don’t think it does it when I’m not on the gas
@patrickhoward4080Ай бұрын
Had this issue on my Raptor. It was the vacuum hub actuator. Its seal looked intact, but when u moved your finger around the entire circumstance, there was a 2” split on it.
@Renegar87Ай бұрын
Great video. Great demonstration. Kudos
@jordanwalton230610 ай бұрын
Omg lifesaver! Ive been chasing this problem all around trying to fig it out! Nailed it
@thatonetechyguy6 ай бұрын
This is an incredible explanation and demo. Nice job
@siestabeach2 ай бұрын
Colin, Your the best, Simple and smart way to show us.. My garage can't get to do the work for a week to fix it. Does it sporatitally. Will I continue to do more harm driving untill then? Thanks again....
@morganparker821 Жыл бұрын
GREAT video! This has been absolutely driving me crazy and I couldn't get the shop to hear it or pinpoint it. Does this cause any damage if it keeps being driven in this state ?
@lucks71987 ай бұрын
Need to know this!
@mattkistner67937 ай бұрын
Yes it does i went through 3 sets of hubs while the dealer diagnosed the fix
@osms_io10 ай бұрын
Sub'd thank you for taking the time to explain this. While not completely mechanically challenged, 4WD hubs are new to me. SUPER helpful! I have a '21 F-150 that is plagued by this, and I think I am just going to get rid of it. This will be the fourth time I've had it in the shop.
@dakotafathke64194 ай бұрын
This is an amazing demonstration. Thanks!
@bryce099 Жыл бұрын
This makes too much sense now, thank you
@Mightblexus9 ай бұрын
Not sure if that is my problem. But either way, absolutely great explaining. Keep it up.
@BrassIsMyGold Жыл бұрын
Amazing! You nailed it! Thank you
@medicineman369 Жыл бұрын
Just what i needed to know
@ScottDLR Жыл бұрын
So if I were to unplug the vacuum line supplying the valve, I assume that would leave the faulty IWE's fully engaged so they would not make this sound anymore? Then I would know for sure that the IWE was the issue.
@miguelmedina5785 Жыл бұрын
this is exactly what i needed! great video thank you !
@johngjacobi6 ай бұрын
That’s the noise at ~2:00!!! Thank you
@wallerlandventures Жыл бұрын
OUstanding vid/explanation. Thank you.
@FlightSergeantRose Жыл бұрын
Very good explanation.
@mr.d47002 ай бұрын
Having this issue with my truck. Jist bought it last April, the people at the shop are saying they can't re-create the noise so they aren't doing anything about it. Spent 2k on a warranty and they're trying to act like they haven't seen or heard of this issue before.
@boyuanbo6 ай бұрын
You did a great job!
@almugnano2 ай бұрын
awesome video
@sqd37l5 ай бұрын
this is the exact noise that my 2017 F150 was making. 3 mechanics could not hear it. it was only slightly engaged
@Godscullers11 ай бұрын
Great explanation. thank you!
@wz61909 ай бұрын
U are the best broooo
@ksale225 ай бұрын
Thanks. Glad to hear it’s not just a rattle and is actually metal gears getting ground flat. I love my Ford! Is a clunk from the front when the engine starts related to it? (2019)
@blown70charger99Күн бұрын
I have a 2017 expedition and I only hear this noise in 4 auto when I’m on the throttle heavy, I’m not sure if that’s normal or not. I just got the car so I don’t know what noise or normal or not, but no issues in 2 wheel, and it’s definitely nowhere near as loud as in the video. Just a real quiet grinding sound but I can feel it in the floorboard just a little vibration. Unsure if it’s just the 4 wheel engaging or what..
@quigglyb11 ай бұрын
This was awesome Thank you
@97VobraOwner Жыл бұрын
my 2019 started doing this at random intervals on the highway yesterday - off to the service department we go ---
@ScottDLR Жыл бұрын
That's what ours is doing - just at highway speeds of 60+. Did the IWE's end up being your problem?
@97VobraOwner Жыл бұрын
@@ScottDLR its in the shop right now - they cant get it to do it for them.... ill report back.
@ScottDLR Жыл бұрын
@@97VobraOwner OK, thanks for the response.
@mikevollmar1021 Жыл бұрын
@@97VobraOwner Ive had the same issue. I have been to the dealership twice to try to show the service department tech the noise, and it didn't make the noise for them of course until now its bad enough. There is a TSB (#22-2219) for this issue, and it should "also" be covered under power train warranty if you're under 60K / 5 years. My grip is that I shouldn't have to prove it before they act on it. Customer concern should be enough.
@Pdubforever1 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video man
@MJ-fj7gh Жыл бұрын
Good video. Can you please list the YEAR of the F150 (and engine) in the description. 2009-2014 models have a different check-valve setup. Thanks.
@anthonyportugal901310 ай бұрын
My truck does a grinding whine sound only when i let my foot of the gas... i changed solenoid & check valve
@omairyahya3594 Жыл бұрын
Thanks nice explanation
@t_sodo8745 Жыл бұрын
Hi, great video. I had this trouble once. The sound was because one IWE is engaged, and the other is NOT engaged. Thus the engaged IWE is spinning the differential and since the other axle is stopped (friction?) the differential is spinning the driveshaft by the spiders at 2x speed. So if you are driving 60mph; the driveshaft (and R&P) are spinning at 120mph. And it's being reverse-driven so it makes a lot of gear-noise (or because the spiders are straight-cut). So how do I know it is this? Because when I switch to 4wd, then the transfer case locks, and all things NOW spin at equal speeds (even though one IWE is not engaged so 4wd drive is not being made) and the noise stops.
@miguelmedina5785 Жыл бұрын
im having this issue right now , thank you for your feed back
@025MikeMiller Жыл бұрын
I just found one of my hubs was manually locked and the other was in auto. Same symptoms you described. I suspect some foul play from some kids. This video helped to identify the issue. I switched both to auto and all good now.
@georged10857 ай бұрын
How bad is it to drive with one engaged? I have been for a lil bit fixing to have it replaced
@t_sodo87457 ай бұрын
It just “sounds bad” because the differential spiders are being back-driven (and at double-speed.)
@georged10857 ай бұрын
@@t_sodo8745 thanks, it is all normal in 4wd so I was hoping I didn’t cause any front diff/driveshaft damage. Thanks for your time!
@patrickrenckens8663 ай бұрын
@colchilibeck This is a great video, thank you for the explanation. If I have driven with this noise off and on for a few hundred miles do you think it would damage the hubs and require them to be replaced? I will start with the check valve to see if it stops but am wondering if I have done more damage?
@l3anzai28 Жыл бұрын
Can you drop a link to the part fix for this? Same noise on my 2018
@gameofantlers88339 ай бұрын
Great video. It's been making that noise for awhile surely the gears are toast by now what parts should be replaced?
@mauiampvlogs68476 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@kevinarce6120 Жыл бұрын
What if it makes the noise during idle 97 f150 4x4
@chrisf1147 Жыл бұрын
Can you do one showing how the EIWE works for 21+ models? Or even better do a side by side. I am not exactly clear on how they work and I want to be more informed when they break in ten years. Lol
@johngjacobi7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@onlypositivecontents3 жыл бұрын
I have that grinding noise but sounds like its comming from the rear and not the front however, new Brakes didnt Help
@islandtime1402 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm not so much hearing the noise as feeling it as a grinding through the floorboards at about 30-40mph. My 4x4 switch had broken some time back and I just replaced the switch and tested it and it appeared to operate normally. I guess I need to go through the workshop manual for the IWE and test it out.
@t_sodo8745 Жыл бұрын
If one IWE is engaged, and the other is not, and makes noise in 2wd that noise is from the differential spider gears being driven by the one locked axle. The center driveshaft is then spinning at twice 30-40mph (or 60-80mph) . If when you switch to 4wd, the noise stops, this is it. It clunks real hard goping to 4wd because the spiders spin the driveshaft at double speed.
@islandtime1402 Жыл бұрын
@@t_sodo8745 I've already checked the proper operation of the IWEs and unfortunately the noise doesn't stop when AWD is engaged. I'm going to have to go through the whole drive train and see if I can find something. I just changed the driver-side wheel hub and bearing because I I was convinced that was the problem. No change. The only thing I noticed when I did the disassembly was that the rotor has a larger than normal rust line and the inner pad looked a little strange. The problem occurs whether I'm braking or not though and it doesn't get worse while breaking. It's driving me crazy!
@t_sodo8745 Жыл бұрын
@@islandtime1402 larger than normal rust line on the rotor does suggest bearing slop and it's strange that replacement did not solve it.
@scottsabin7438 ай бұрын
Sounds like an actual wheel bearing issue.
@eljefedejefes74692 жыл бұрын
I’m getting this sound only when engaging 4wd. When I switch it back to 2wd the grinding/rumble strip feeling goes away. Do you think I can have a bad iwe that’s not fully engaging?
@diazaa Жыл бұрын
What was the fix? Im having the same problem now
@MegaTapdog Жыл бұрын
me too, it only makes noise in 4wd. 2 wheel is fine.
@eljefedejefes7469 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t found the fix yet. I replaced both iwes and still no luck. I’m just gonna replace both cv axels and hubs see if that does anything.
@5.43v Жыл бұрын
@@eljefedejefes7469 RCV IWE delete
@FORD150-5.4 Жыл бұрын
2005 5.4 here... my make bang noise no grinding only when I switch to 4hi I switch back to 2wd and go back to 4Hi and now working fine I think my actuator not fully angage and desengage sometimes that cut be the actuator or vacuum problem?
@mick57404 ай бұрын
Yikes !! So that can’t be good for the teeth on the hub bearing and or the iwe ! Just Replaced hub bearing passenger side on a 06 f150 4x4. And now I have this noise from the drivers side I don’t get why a new hub on the other side would make it start havibg noise right away Did new check valves a few years ago along with the updated solenoid. Literally first highway trip after the new hub and I have sound. I don’t get it
@varmint22310 ай бұрын
Humm my 2018 f150 running tire jacked up the axles move and front drive line too
@vipersinu25 ай бұрын
I have a 2020 navigator. The dealer removed the vacuum lines and added vacuum caps as per lincolns TSB. Do you think the vacuum caps are a good idea?
@hootie1912 ай бұрын
does this harm the hubs or any other components in the front drivetrain.
@joecampeau27299 ай бұрын
EXACTLY THE SAME NOISE!!!
@itsallgooddan2 жыл бұрын
If I disconnect the soliniod. Can I drive this at highway speeds for about 500 miles to get the truck home? 2020 f150.
@5.43v Жыл бұрын
I've done thousands of miles like this
@itsallgooddan Жыл бұрын
@DD thanks! I disconnected it back 9 months ago and have not had an issue since. Driven like 40k miles like this. Just crazy that they know it's an issue yet they are still using the same set up. Even the tsb for this states to remove it. So why put it in in the first place.
@5.43v Жыл бұрын
@@itsallgooddan get the dormant or RCV IWE delete
@FORD150-5.4 Жыл бұрын
@@itsallgooddan for saving gas ⛽️
@justinlamb3822 Жыл бұрын
@@itsallgooddan Quick question. So you just disconnect the electrical connector into the little black solenoid by the brake booster correct? Any issues yet? I’m driving from Texas to Michigan soon and might have to disconnect that as a temporary fix or I might just leave it
@Dylan-yy2dl2 жыл бұрын
Both of my front wheels hubs make that exact sound when I spin them by hand.. what causes that? Could it be both of my IWEs are bad
@ryanm.33932 жыл бұрын
Did you figure it out yet? I'm working on one at work right now and can help you out..apparently these are very common to fail
@toddj.82452 жыл бұрын
If u have both failing chances are its solenoid or a chk valve or a vacumn leak up top before it tees off and a pretty bad leak Rarely hear of both failing at same time but nothing would surprise me with this system i Absolutly hate it
@JustinG96988 ай бұрын
Could this be an issue in the rear of an all wheel drive 2016 escape? I’m having an issue where when I accelerate while turning there is a grinding noise. It only happens while I’m turning and accelerating at the same time.
@andresorona2265 Жыл бұрын
Hi there mine just started doing that kind of noise but only when I do a hard turn to the left is this could be the same issue??
@Lati2ude208 ай бұрын
Fucking lifesaver
@MrYandel852 ай бұрын
My truck makes that sound but it is intermittent. could it be the same problem?
@Mac_Made2 жыл бұрын
What size line is that
@Do_It__Dad-634Ай бұрын
Is that play and clunk between the hub and the cv normal?
@BrassIsMyGold Жыл бұрын
What if this rattling noise only occurs while steering to the right?
@jblvns10 Жыл бұрын
if it's just one iwe making the noise could it still be the solenoid gone bad?
@eleodoropena384 Жыл бұрын
I change all that and still getting that noise....I change both locking hubs...the solenoid ...the vaccum hose ..
@kylediehl2349 Жыл бұрын
Any update on this? I am having the same problem
@y2kbmet Жыл бұрын
Mine runs perfect in 4H. When I switch to 2H, I get the gridning noise from the passenger side only. I unhooked some of the lines and tested with a vacuum guage. At the solenoid, I'm getting 23-24inHg. The driver side, that is working properly is getting 23-24inHg. The passenger side, that is not fully disengaging is only getting 10inHg. Could that be the problem? It seems to be dropping vacuum right after the connection where is splits to go to both sides. 2007 F150 FX4. Any ideas? TIA
@alexlaney34238 күн бұрын
The plastic gear coupling seal is bad
@colemanstracke53047 ай бұрын
Could this only happen while turning as well?
@tommyboudreau227 Жыл бұрын
Weird question would this noise still happen say when you rev the motor nd at say 1500 rpm nd a constant noise if you leave it at 1500 rpm?
@bmo80 Жыл бұрын
Naw. Just as wheel is rotating. The fast the wheel rotates the faster the noise will sound.
@codyp85663 ай бұрын
Will It be the same sound from rear
@jrwizz11 ай бұрын
I have a popping sound right before im coming to a stop and right when im taking off doesnt do it til i hit a low enough speed any idea? 2005 f150ank u in advance
@m.california9479 Жыл бұрын
I only hear this when I have the wheels turned is that normal?
@martymcfly8442 Жыл бұрын
Are the IWE locked or unlocked while in park and not in 4WD.
@mrhossola7137 Жыл бұрын
Locked due to no vacuum
@darrellmitchell6056 Жыл бұрын
I rather have the manual shifter
@SamSam-ke9zy3 ай бұрын
Clearly and incorrectly explained. The wheels are floating till the IWE is engaged. The IWE activation doesNOT cause it to go into 4wheel drive. It merely locks the wheels to the front drive line sk when the TRANSFERCASE engages the 4wheel drive it will give power to the front wheels. Active IWE only causes the front drive shaft to move which has no power (no 4wheel drive) till the transfercase engages.
@PeacefulNatureShorts21 күн бұрын
What parts are at risk when driving with this issue?