Ford transit mk6 glow plug relay starting problem

A quick video showing the problem that I had with my glow plug relay.

[@FishLaird]

This is EXACTLY what happened inside my relay. Thanks so much Phil

[@philcross7315]

Glad it helped. 😁

[@garyculbert7676]

Great video. Huge help. Thank you

[@timothyyoung9373]

Thanks buddy, Will try it.

[@philcross7315]

Let us know how you get on? 👍

[@gsd.mali.dad.]

can the wire be replaced when broken if so where would i get that from

[@user-un7ph9td1n]

Sorry to bother you mate, my van was running fine today then just cut out , i came across your video And checked my relay that was burnt out , so I’m going to order a new one any way, but you said it should still start with out yes ?, or have I read the comments wrong, as mines not starting with it plugged in or taken out, what else could it be mate ?, thank you in advance

[@robjones9811]

Did you check the voltage at the post to the glow plugs only asking as mine seems a little low.

[@philcross7315]

I checked the main stud that feeds the rail that goes down to the glow plugs. Have you checked the wire that feeds into the fuse box, it is actually a fuseable wire? If your voltages are low, it might be that?

[@robjones9811]

@@philcross7315 The fuseable link seems fine going to look at the jump point as some corrosion on there this problem has been on my van for over 4 years just want to get to the bottom of it.

[@philcross7315]

@@robjones9811 good luck 👍

[@danielevitts4171]

Hello Phil my transit struggles to start takes maybe 5 to 10 seconds but once Started it runs perfect could this be the same

[@philcross7315]

Being honest, 5-10 seconds isn't bad. Most diesels take a bit of cranking to get going? If it runs ok once started, you'll have to wait until it's cold outside to see if that makes a difference?

[@ryanomeara7719]

Just tried this, i swapped the relay with ignition relat, ignition come on and still didnt start? Any other ideas? I havnt had chance to check the voltage but i will tomorrow

[@philcross7315]

Check the voltage first, and make sure that the glow plugs are working or not.

[@bobsmith5538]

Did it cause the van to go into limp mode?

[@philcross7315]

No. Didn't even show a fault on the obd diagnostic.

[@ThePatto56]

Hi will it not start without that rely plug

[@philcross7315]

It will, but if it is cold, it will have difficulty.

[@Cookie.x.monsterr]

Any links for the relay please

[@philcross7315]

If yours is the 4 pin, the same as mine in this video: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5M5T14B192EA-Genuine-Ford-Multi-Use-4-Pin-Micro-Grey-Relay-70A-FoMoCo-1425754-/282844759528?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

[@Cookie.x.monsterr]

@@philcross7315 thank you very much ! I will check soon!! Appreciate your time!

[@scrapman1949]

Hi could you send me a link to that really please

[@brianrobertson3472]

To what m8t

[@bobbysmith7420]

do you no the name of the relay and size i have the same problem

[@philcross7315]

Google "relay 12v 70a 4 pin" There are plenty on amazon, but can be found much cheaper elsewhere.

[@bobbysmith7420]

@@philcross7315 what year is your van ? mine is 06

[@bobbysmith7420]

is r2 and r13 the same size

[@terryrich4285]

Hi bud, I did this today and as soon as I turned the key relay and cable smoked and van struggled to turn over, any ideas please?

[@philcross7315]

That sounds like you have a direct short on the glow plugs. Either a plug has shorted, or the live rail that connects them?

[@terryrich4285]

@@philcross7315 thank you for the quick reply, when you say live rail what are you referring to sorry?

[@terryrich4285]

@@philcross7315 I'm guessing there's no regulator before the relay?

[@philcross7315]

Nope, it's a very heavy connection, directly from the battery. It does have a heavy fuse in the wire I pointed out in the video. The live rail, is the series of links off the top of each glow plug. Disconnect them, and check each one for a short to the engine block (earth). That will give you an idea of which (if any are open circuit (blown), or shorted out.

[@terryrich4285]

@@philcross7315 thank you very much bud, I shall check this tomorrow

[@bilibila2574]

Bonjour j'ai un ford transit de 2002 le 2.0 tddi je l'ai depuis 2 ans ( je precise la pompe a gasoil vp44 a ete changer par l'ancien propriétaire il fait par un garage 2500€ de facture) roulait nickel jusqu'à l'autre jour j'ai le voyant prechauffage qui clignote et l'autre a côté aussi le moteur a perdu la puissance et y la calé j'ai réussi a redémarrer j'ai fait 100 mètre et a refait la même chose et puis il refuse de démarré. Un ami a moi est venu avec son outil de diagnostic obd et il a trouvé 4 code défaut p0149 p1563 1664 p0335 puis les effacé et le véhicule a démarré le code p0149 est resté ne c'est pas effacé je l'ai amene chez moi a 1 km et aucun soucis. Le lendemain j'ai démarré nickel et j'ai fait 1km et le voyant prechauffage et l'autre a clignote encore, perte de puissance et arrêt moteur j'ai réussi a le redémarrer j'ai fait 5km ma refait encore j'ai redémarré j'ai fait 5 et encore cette puis apres eu du mal a redémarrer j'ai réussi a arriver à la maison je l'ai éteint j'ai redémarré cash aucun soucis. Le lendemain j'ai démarré et au bout de 20 secondes a cale seul j'étais a l'arrêt et il refuse de démarré maintenant meme au start pilot j'ai changé le filtre a gasoil et rien j'ai mis un nouveau et j'ai purger la vis du filtre et j'ai regardé le gasoil il y a comme des boules car tout ça met arrivé apres avoir fait le plein dans une station avant roulait tres bien voila si vous pouvez m'aider Merci d'avance

[@philcross7315]

Veuillez excuser ma réponse, c'est Google Translate, mon français n'est pas parfait. Les moteurs diesel sont très basiques. Sous leur forme primitive, ils n’ont besoin que d’injecter et de comprimer du diesel. Étant donné que votre moteur a fonctionné, il doit s'agir d'un problème de diesel. Vous devez tout vérifier, depuis les injecteurs de carburant jusqu’au réservoir de carburant. Si vous avez du carburant au niveau des injecteurs (sous pression) ce n'est pas la pompe à injection. Si vous ne le faites pas, revenez à partir de là. Vérifiez les tuyaux, les raccords, les filtres, la pompe à carburant et enfin l'eau dans le réservoir de carburant. De plus, ces moteurs sont difficiles à démarrer s’il y a de l’air dans le système. Peut-être essayer de demander à quelqu'un de vous remorquer ? Bonne chance?

[@bilibila2574]

@@philcross7315 bonjour phil ce weekend je vais faire ce que tu m'a dit et je reviens vers vous en tout cas merci pour votre réponse bonne journée

[@lurcherman1511]

What’s the relay called please

[@philcross7315]

It's called the glow plug relay. It's relay R2.

[@lurcherman1511]

Cheers mate

[@lurcherman1511]

My van was just turning over and would take a few times to start. Now it won’t start just turns over do you think this could be same problem

[@philcross7315]

@@lurcherman1511 I wouldn't have thought so, they usually start, even if it's lumpy?

[@user-un7ph9td1n]

Sorry to bother you mate, my van was running fine today then just cut out , i came across your video And checked my relay that was burnt out , so I’m going to order a new one any way, but you said it should still start with out yes ?, or have I read the comments wrong, as mines not starting with it plugged in or taken out, what else could it be mate ?, thank you in advance

[@philcross7315]

Hello buddy, this only makes it more difficult to start when it's cold. This is not the reason your van isn't starting. This is just when it's really cold. Sorry I can't be more specific, but you have a different problem.

[@user-un7ph9td1n]

Sorry to bother you mate, my van was running fine today then just cut out , i came across your video And checked my relay that was burnt out , so I’m going to order a new one any way, but you said it should still start with out yes ?, or have I read the comments wrong, as mines not starting with it plugged in or taken out, what else could it be mate ?, thank you in advance

[@philcross7315]

Hello buddy, sorry for the late reply. I replied last night, but for some reason it didn't post? Anyway, this fault only makes it a bit harder to start, it doesn't stop your van starting, unless maybe you're somewhere really cold? Even then, you should get white smoke, and a lumpy start. It's worth replacing anyway, but it's worth checking your filter, and leading the fuel system. My experience is, that if you've got a good battery, and it's cranking quickly enough, it will self bleed.

[@user-un7ph9td1n]

@@philcross7315 sorry for the long reply , I’m going to change the relay any way as it was burnt out. It was running fine yesterday, then just cut out on my drive , now it’s cranking over with plenty of power just not starting at all , do you have any more advice to help me try and resolve the problem, I’m going to plug it in to a computer later to see if codes come up , thanks again for your time mate , much appreciated

[@user-un7ph9td1n]

@@philcross7315 and what filter do you advise on checking mate

[@philcross7315]

Fuel filter.

[@user-un7ph9td1n]

@@philcross7315 thank you mate , al put it out and have a look at it