Forensic Files - Season 12, Episode 25 - Printed Proof - Full Episode

When two women went missing and were later found brutally murdered, police wondered if they were victims of a hate crime.
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[@taydestiny38]

Respect to the Mom for not standing idly by and ignoring her son’s evil deeds. She not only did the right thing by alerting the detectives, but she even showed genuine remorse for the victims.

[@gib59er56]

That is pretty rare. Mothers have it in their DNA to protect their children. I have no idea what my mom would do. I guess it would depend on what I really did.

[@amyhoff1501]

I bet he is not laughing and joking anymore

[@deezy81]

​@@amyhoff1501He dead.

[@TaroTaraufau]

The mother's pain was palpable.."All I can say is I'm sorry"...those words broke my heart.

[@ofHerWord]

WTF! If I was the Mom I would lie to my self and not tell on my own son. HOW THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO LOOK AT A DRAWN PICTURE OF YOUR SON AND THEN TURN YOUR OWN SON IN! That is just crazy not because he did it but because what if he did not? That sounds so silly!

[@ahmedrefaat1086]

Shoutout to the great mom who took the heart decision and informed about her son and didn't choose to overlook his crime to produce justice for victims's families,although she was heartbreaking also.

[@thembinkosidube3918]

In loving memory of Peter Thomas Thank you ...

[@AndiSplatterpunk]

It's heartbreaking to hear his mom apologized for her son's actions..any mom would have guilt

[@deonacross3626]

She did the best she could to raise her son

[@athena8729]

It's not her fault

[@jcspider7259]

In February 2011 an Oregon court declared Acremant so delusional that he could not be executed, and his sentence was reduced to life without parole. He died of natural causes in prison on October 16, 2018. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Roxanne_Ellis_and_Michelle_Abdill

[@carlosrrullanlind1067]

@@deonacross3626You don’t really know that for certain.

[@minakiel2930]

not true. many moms of killers will swear up and down their baby boys didn’t do that :/ Narcissistic parents create rotten kids

[@Kelvinllovejr]

What a tough break for the cable guy. Years before finger print evidence he may have been locked up for life

[@jamesspears8226]

I can tell that the Mom did not want to see her son arrested, but she had to make the hardest decision

[@JulieFennell-qc4uj]

No-one cares about him

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

@@JulieFennell-qc4uj Who would care about someone that does not care about the others?

[@susankaempfer8427]

His mother was probably relieved when he was arrested. 😳

[@juliocosta5818]

Especially since the identikit looks nothing like him!!!

[@jamesl9371]

It’s a very tough situation. If you’re being held at gun point and told to call a friend do you get your friend to come or just blurt out, Call the police. You might get killed but your friend won’t

[@sameerolail]

I thought that.

[@mouldysushi]

Not just friend that was her domestic partner, basically her wife.

[@peterolbrisch1653]

You would think they would have a code word.

[@jamesl9371]

@@peterolbrisch1653 I’ve heard about people calling 911 and pretending to order a pizza 🍕 it’s a good strategy that the 911 operators should be aware of. If something doesn’t seem right look into it further. There’s a special hand sign people can use also if in trouble

[@drm__.767]

@@jamesl9371 “I’d like a large pizza with extra “Help”ings and “sos”uages 😂

[@carmenblacklock788]

I wonder at what age his Mother knew he was evil because I know she saw it. That's how she knew to call the police.

[@chateaupig826]

He had it all over her from a Very young age -solo mums struggle with willfull kids and end up allowing Bad behavior just to keep the peace -you could see she was soft

[@carmenblacklock788]

@@chateaupig826 I don't believe it's about being a solo parent or not. Many married women abdicate their authority to their husbands or don't have any authority over their children at all.

[@gib59er56]

I don`t know if that was the case. It is just a loose loose scenario I would think. But, hey, you could be right.

[@toilettduckk]

@@chateaupig826 Just because a mother is soft spoken and has a gentle appearance doesn't mean her kids will grow up to be murderers.

[@chateaupig826]

@toilettduckk studies have shown about this social problem occurring more and more , the absent father thing It's not ideal . ok , not everyone turns to murder . But it certainly affects children when people solo parent . Whether by intention or not . Its better for the child to grow up in a loving , stable , strong family unit with love and discipline ❤️

[@sophiag2348]

He is pure evil for killing those two innocent women😔

[@jcspider7259]

In February 2011 an Oregon court declared Acremant so delusional that he could not be executed, and his sentence was reduced to life without parole. He died of natural causes in prison on October 16, 2018. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Roxanne_Ellis_and_Michelle_Abdill

[@gablit-gt8kk]

Then he must not have parole

[@caroltenge5147]

yes. real POS not fit to live.

[@Patriot-hz8xk]

Yeah but those devious women were immoral

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

And his friend. Just to know "how it feels".

[@8lu6oy]

Peter Thomas wildn with TMI. "The stripper's stage name was Ecstacy. Lol

[@PumaLyn]

Sick individual.

[@TheWeslej]

The music they chose for the strip club clips! 😂

[@xell1969]

Condemned inmate Robert J. Acremant, 50, died of natural causes on October 26, 2018, at Oregon State Penitentiary.

[@ultimatewitcherfan6677]

@xell1969 thanks for the update! 👍

[@xell1969]

@@ultimatewitcherfan6677 you're welcome.

[@craigime]

what was the natural cause?

[@AnxietyMentor]

@@craigime Stupidity.

[@StellaFl]

Thank you!

[@danielhartin7680]

That composite drawing looked nothing like the killer.

[@steelhurricane4041]

It really wasn't forensic files this time that solved this case, they had a fingerprint and a shoe print, it was mom that got him caught.

[@taydestiny38]

They still had to prove that he did it. His mom identifying him was only circumstantial and based off of a bad drawing.

[@nahum9729]

Felt bad for those 2 ladies who died for no reason and the mother who had to give up his son.When money becomes your God the devil has entered your soul.Pure evil.

[@phlushphish793]

Yep. The Love of Money is the root of all evil!

[@tetgirlnxtdoor]

For real

[@danielmartinezmayoral6959]

The devil did not enter his soul, he fell in love with the wrong person and that love was corrupted for evil.

[@nahum9729]

@@danielmartinezmayoral6959 sorry but the devil did enter invited by the love of money

[@danielmartinezmayoral6959]

@@nahum9729 Not the love of money, the love of that girl who only wanted him for his money. He fell in love with a stripper and that means that if you want to see her, you have to pay. And he couldn't do that, he desperately needed money and he killed those two women, for him achieving the love of that girl was more important than the lives of those two women.

[@francisvincentcabalatungan3232]

He feel his a good looking man and that confidence didnt make his way to become a better person of a productive life but a menace of public

[@Chalando.9431]

Why would she call her partner is what i don’t understand

[@clancycreations]

If the guy had a homemade silencer…. I can’t believe he didn’t have some kind of plan aside from robbery. 😣😢

[@SukumarDevaguptapuLife-Smiles]

When the justice announced a punishment, and the same is not carried out immediately -- this is the biggest injustice to the victims and never a deterrent to the criminals. He could callously kill two innocent ladies...in fraction of a second..why not the punishment be implemented like-wise ? Authorities who delay the punishment are indirectly responsible for defeating the justice system.

[@OutlawJoseyWales71]

I totally agree. In fact my guess is that this piece of shit is still breathing............at our expense, of course

[@ebonimom6964]

I feel for his mom. Too many mothers defend and cover for their kids even when they know theyre guilty. I respect his mom for having the strength to call that in and apologize to the victims even tho its not her fault

[@kezz-iofficial4058]

They can be so far off with those composite sketch sometimes !

[@craigime]

seems that way most of the time

[@angeesteiner8493]

Right? I am over here thinking that there is nothing at all in that sketch that even slightly resembles the killer.

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

You can see in some pictures he wore the same glasses.

[@n00n1n]

This is beyond creepy.

[@TheTmat007]

It's not "creepy." It's horrendous!

[@kimmyfreak200]

the killer made me so uncomfortable...downright heebie geebies

[@marleenneil7542]

I feel for his mother … interesting what his biological father’s background is/was.

[@mohamedhussein9935]

she feared herself and more people in the community. she is a good mother to reveal the monster

[@Dovietail]

He didn't age well and he died early. Apparently prison did not agree with him.

[@phlushphish793]

So what? Life is eternal! You're either with Jesus, or you're against him!

[@ElleIvanko-hn8ny]

Senseless

[@Prescilla_Halliwell]

He just threw his good life away for a stripper. He didn't even realize that that's what strippers do. And down he went through the rabbit hole. Well at least he didn't strike a plea bargain to get off the death penalty. So many of these killers are so afraid to die after taking the lives of others.

[@danielmartinezmayoral6959]

The sad thing is that everything he did was to pay a STRIPPER, not out of necessity, not out of any hatred or resentment towards them because he had done something to them, he did it to pay a girl who gets naked in front of anyone who has two moments . But of course it is not known if that girl only danced with him or did something else to him. But that girl never wanted him or loved him, in fact she would not even have visited him in prison. What's more, if he finds out about all this, he would surely use it as advertising for her.

[@YsalysDayByDay]

Would it have somehow been justified if the woman was of another profession? Feel like the wrong thing was focused on here ... a heinous act is an heinous act no matter what

[@danielmartinezmayoral6959]

@@YsalysDayByDay The guy committed two murders to pay a girl, he's a monster. But I say he's like a drug addict, only the monster was addicted to a woman.

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

Let's not forget 7 weeks earlier he killed his *friend* just to know "how it feels".

[@pjlewisful]

One wonders what the hell could have made this guy so evil. He was a pretty nice looking guy but his hart was ugly as a monster.

[@nwohioan]

No way i wouldve called my spoused. Wouldve offered to forge the second signature or go to the bank for him.

[@DesGardius-me7gf]

Acremant’s lover was actually a contestant on The Apprentice.

[@MakateRapulana]

she should have sacrificed herself to save her partner

[@yumark5800]

Can’t imagine the fear and pain these women faced before they died. What a trash excuse of a human being. Feel bad for the victims and the mother. The guilt she will have to live with for the rest of her life.

[@Johnieboi]

I wouldn’t have called my partner there to die.

[@zuzellogan5613]

I don’t think that the composite sketch looks like Robert, not at all. The cable guy looks like the killer. Too sad that this young man, with a bright future ahead of him, having served honorably in the military, and having a master degree, and a good job. could have fallen for a stripper! It is beyond my comprehension. The stripper used him for his money and he fell for it. She didn’t give a rat about this man but he thought she was his “girlfriend.” Wow. Can understand the mentality of some men! 🙄🙄 Way too sad for him and way to sad and tragic for his victims who had nothing to do with his excessive spending in a club. My heart goes out to Robert’s Mom having to make a very difficult call about the involvement of her own son. Prayers to her to find peace and acceptance about what Robert did. May the victims rest in eternal Peace 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@mogbaba]

The stripper did the right thing. She gets humiliated everyday by horny sorry men. But, this is her job. She is paid for it. Another aspect of the job is milking rich stupid men for as much money as they could.

[@danielmartinezmayoral6959]

The girl only loved him for his money, she surely never went to visit him in prison, for her that boy was a wallet. That boy fell in love with her but her love made him go down the path of evil. I guess you would think that by paying her and paying her for many dances, she would fall in love with him, but no, she would never fall in love with him, it's more likely that she had a boyfriend.

[@monicadonnelly4991]

Are you serious

[@8luvbug]

Way too sad for him? Are you serious? You deranged freak

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

Strippers do what they are supposed to do: "dance" for money. If he was delusional enough to believe she would fall in love with him, that's *his* problem. She just enjoyed all that money. p.s. In some pictures, you can see he wore glasses exactly like the ones on the sketch.

[@dianebutler5096]

Its so sad that the killers mother came forward saying the composit sketch resembled her son and she showed great remorse for her sons evil deeds. The women were murdered for no reason. The killer murdered them because he knew he could not get the money from them so he could have more money to spend on the stripper. Great forensics Condoleces to the victims familly and friends. Rest in peace roxanne and michelle.

[@achuopeter1889]

What did those women do to that monster they did nothing wrong to him for sure that guy is a monster.

[@rupakgbikas4477]

Nice episode. Why was killer trying to murder two when killer can kill just one victim. Killer orders would be victim1 to call her partner on the phone to stop by so that he can kill both.

[@tammyreise]

What’s odd is that the composite doesn’t look anything like her son… it looked more like the cable guy…

[@jimr9499]

I think that often. The composite almost never looks like the intended person and yet they always seem to magically work.

[@faithburgess6752]

That's what I thought

[@flyingchimp12]

It looks more similar than not

[@flyingchimp12]

@@jimr9499it’s meant to loosely resemble the guy… more so if you know someone was acting strange on a certain night you can say wow that kinda looks like him

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

If you Google "Robert J. Acremant" you can see that in some pictures, he wore glasses exactly like the ones on the sketch.

[@kimmyfreak200]

whats really sad is one had to die first so she heard her lover get shot first, knowing she was next but not knowing when, just very sadistic crime...the terror they both felt must have been hell

[@phlushphish793]

Yeh, well she didn't have to call her partner into murder, now, did she?

[@scottkinter2839]

Chrome plated bumper area? Was it the bumper or wasn't it? You have a tailgate, left rear quarter panel, right rear quarter panel and the bumper.

[@CoCoGemel]

Ok Bumper Police

[@scottkinter2839]

@@CoCoGemel facts police but I'll use that one on the next video.. Thanks

[@evgeniapoletaeva1691]

I would die, but I would never let my partner to go and die with me. I will definitely yell call the police don't ever come here run anything to warn him or her

[@evgeniapoletaeva1691]

It's not tough. You never let your partner to die

[@taydestiny38]

Easy to be brave heart behind a keyboard.

[@kimmyfreak200]

exactly... but he could have been super manipulative... like do u know how many cases i've studied where the victim believed the killer that as long as they did what they said everyone will be ok... or he could have gone the other way and said he'd torture her to death... to be face to face with true evil you never know what u will do..people even freeze during war despite all their training... most people have never been face to face with this kind of evil...i have though and even a tough person gets really scared

[@chateaupig826]

@@kimmyfreak200 hear , hear

[@phlushphish793]

Guess you're not a lesbian; and, a human with a heart! :)

[@Highheels4ever]

My heart goes out to Robert Acremant’s mother knowing that her son committed a heinous crime. I truly feel sorry for her when she made a phone call to detectives and during the whole trial. Unfortunately, this lady will suffer for the rest of her life the senseless actions of her son where two individuals lost their lives. But the only thing I can say is that strippers and strip clubs will do a great damage to the mind of men. These men who go to these clubs, create themselves a “mental fantasy”’ for strippers who only care about the money they will get using their bodies to get what they want: money. But men think strippers care for them. 🙄 What foolish individuals men are, totally foolish and very stupid. No wonder Mr. Acremant was in debt for $80,000 wasting all his money on a useless woman. smh 🤦‍♀️ And Robert Acremant wasted his life being a college educated man, having served honorably in the military, and having a very good job……all that he accomplished went down the drain for a stripper who wasn’t even worthy. Now, this particular stripper can visit him in jail…….but most likely she has moved on to another man in attendance inside the club. Wow! I am appalled. May the two victims Rest in Peace always 🙏🙏

[@medranochav]

HIS limerence was NOT the sex worker's fault.

[@nissanbrown6144]

Evening when you in a relationship or married you still buying love.

[@ReeRee_is_watching_you]

Sleep tight folks! 😴 🙏🏻💕😉

[@snackasmversion2752]

Bob died in prison in 2018, here's hoping he's rotting in hell

[@Patriot-hz8xk]

Yes as well as those two devious women

[@mmsizzlak]

Damn...That was an expensive piece of .... Love. It was one-sided AKA it didn't exist but it was love in his twisted, desperate ass mind

[@chateaupig826]

Oh , he knew -he damn well knew the score

[@gablit-gt8kk]

Acrement was never friendly, he murdered Ellis and Abdil for nothing

[@Texas_Made_]

Oh boyyyyy.....

[@stuboyd1194]

I hope he finds plenty of "love" in the prison shower block.

[@kimmyfreak200]

by love i hope u mean bubba and 4 of his friends makin a party out of his corn hole...

[@badkarma1289]

His balloon knot got stretched out on a regular basis.

[@jeshkam]

Well, he's dead now. 🤷‍♂️

[@achuopeter1889]

I wish I wr a cop would get all these monsters to jail

[@taydestiny38]

Same here! I’m addicted to these shows now and a part of me wishes that I had chosen a different career path, such as law enforcement. I would have loved to hunt these evil a-holes down and put them away.

[@mostaanroya]

Imagine your own mother calls the police on you, the Apple doesn’t fall far from a tree, a good mother wouldn’t have a criminal child 🤦‍♀️

[@PedarasHuilo]

That man looks exactly like Liam Nielson

[@jinjan1552]

No human

[@zairehaylock4974]

What is a hate crime.

[@ladyempire5921]

So she lured the other woman instead of notifying her of a robbery in progress. Smh

[@ichigomentos]

@@Jachi_Michael What?

[@jasoncoughenour8911]

I've stayed at the tiki lodge😅 It's a nice place for a $50 room

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Looks like any cheap place. No tiki anywhere, tho.

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

Even cheaper, since his brother was in the management of that hotel.

[@cheerlynstovall5506]

He stop Laughing,that's why he attempted suicide.The Joke was on Him now😂

[@ayseyilmaz217]

Why?

[@jamesl9371]

I think it’s not possible to use tape without touching the sticky side unless you use a good tape dispenser and you’re very careful

[@wafanasreldeen1230]

What about wearing gloves. Lol

[@craigime]

or use gloves

[@AnxietyMentor]

@@wafanasreldeen1230 It's practically impossible to use tape and gloves.

[@karambafatty9693]

​@@AnxietyMentor off course you can. with a fiber gloves

[@phlushphish793]

I learned that now, too. Thanks for your advice you shared with all the future sadistic killers!

[@boduke8869]

12:16...... Knowin he almost said she's not bullshittin.... But he caught himself..... Lmao

[@medranochav]

for cases with irrefutable evidence proving guilt, I DO believe in the death penalty

[@leetraviusmckay314]

"he spent money on Las Vegas stripper" 💵

[@atomicskies_]

18:46 that kinda sounds like me to be honest

[@patriciaeversley6909]

...🤔...I've heard about Gentian Violet...but not about Genetian Violet...

[@TheDonovanMcCormick]

The drawing looked like an old man and not at all like the son. Weird she thought that and ended up it actually being him.

[@aljabirxiju9475]

telling her lover to come over...unexceptable.

[@mrbungle112loser5]

That girlfriend is a coward!! Why called her to make her died also

[@youngdkout]

Blurt out call the police

[@JasperCupido-jq1zr]

Demme, Robert created hell for himself,he will dwell forever,even without his body,well he created it...?

[@Amvndah]

I’m sorry but calling your friend/ business partner over luring them to their death as well was STUPID!!! I understand she was in a fucked up situation, but there’s no way I would call someone I love/friends with, whatever, to come and die with me! Smh

[@annazaman9657]

But why did he kill them?

[@brianclingenpeel5123]

"she was happy to take a last minute appointment".......11 am lol. Oh yeah, really going out of her way to squeeze that one in after a long day of working for 3 hours 😂

[@lukeemmanuelhammond6024]

robert excrement was a coward

[@SharpTac]

Deviant behavior leads to deviant behavior.

[@RealityCowboy242]

Mom you're awesome. Turn that mfr in. Godly woman

[@James-Spears-Jr]

That sketch sure did resemble Acremant. Funny how he admitted the fact he murdered them two innocent women over money just to buy more love. That's nonsense.

[@landang7906]

10:16 Even at gun point, she could have said something to alert her partner, instead of telling her to come in a murder trap.

[@flyingchimp12]

She obviously thought it wouldn’t end in murder but I don’t think I would’ve done the same

[@medranochav]

not blaming the victim!! lmaoooo

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

@@Jachi_Michael What do you mean? It feels like a couple words are missing in your sentence.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Awww, by now, they quit spoiling it w bad 911 acting.

[@fhelnor2783]

He was good looking but he wasted it.

[@kimmyfreak200]

🤢🤮

[@JulieFennell-qc4uj]

You should've gone to Specsavers

[@RollerBladingSuxs]

What was his Master’s degree in?

[@rs52594]

Business Administration from Golden Gate University

[@Mega0507-b3g]

Wow you crazy about trash and spend all that of your savings and kill someone to spend money on the trash. Wow I feel so so sorry for his mom victims and family.

[@elisabethsiegmund6097]

The juror saying that this man was the personification of evil needs to be revisited. We have a new kid on the block deserving the title - Billy boy gates.

[@kyloren628]

🙄

[@kimmyfreak200]

there are many different types of evil...it has many faces and ages...

[@nomercy5422]

The sawing don't look like him tho

[@malitucker13]

You mean her Girlfriend

[@georgejennings3599]

Coors beer ads are getting to be a problem here

[@badkarma1289]

Your endless comments complaining about ads are getting to be a problem here.

[@aamanpour3630]

@@badkarma1289 😆

[@deezy81]

At least you are not constantly getting commercials for H.I.V./A.I.D.S. medication.

[@mpks4742]

I almost felt bad for the guy until they said he killed his friend just to see what it's like...man just terrible

[@chateaupig826]

You felt bad for him till he said that ?? stRaNgE

[@taniazavala2191]

@@chateaupig826 exactly!! like what?? you feel bad for a murderer? im confused 😭

[@phlushphish793]

You felt bad for a guy who killed two working women for money? What kind of sick, twisted person are you?

[@monicadonnelly4991]

⁠​⁠@@taniazavala2191 There’s a lot of freaks out there who care more about demented individuals than their victims

[@8luvbug]

​@@monicadonnelly4991 yep just look at ted Bundy and Jeffrey dahmer deranged gross fangirls.

[@stevengirton3745]

The ancient Persians had punishments adequate for someone like that. Flaying while alive

[@Patriot-hz8xk]

Actually, the Persians would thank that guy, once they realize that those two devious women were gay!!

[@edgeofentropy3492]

10:09 "But Roxanne was still alive at 5pm." Me: The first thing that pops into my mind is... kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYWUlGp9oN-Fh7M ROXXXXXXANNE You don't have to put on the red light. ROXXXXXXANNE You don't have to put on the red light. Roxanne Put on the red light. Roxanne Put on the red light. Roxanne Put on the red light. Roxanne Put on the red light. Roxanne Put on the red light.

[@curturweider9473]

It’s always easy and I mean always always always the short little man that abuses women just the cowards of the world short little cowards LOOK😳

[@hansjohansson8053]

👍🇸🇪❤️

[@j.b.macdirty6202]

Those two ladies went straight to hell

[@Patriot-hz8xk]

Yes, unless they repented at the last moments before death!

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

🙄

[@latibmajid9010]

i really wonder why chtistians consider the work of nude dancers girls to be something normal??Also a shame That there is parents who support their daughter to be involved in this lowly and dirty work..

[@Confessions089]

If their Christian yes, but if they don't subscribe to that religion then no.

[@joelreyes1686]

Bad mother!!!!

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

Why?

[@atomicskies_]

I wonder how the mom feels that she got her son killed

[@medranochav]

LONG LIVE THE LGBT

[@Patriot-hz8xk]

Be careful with that! Hell is a real place!

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

​@@Patriot-hz8xk seriously? No judge not...huh?

[@GamalElbanna-v9y]

I don't count on credit card to buy stuff let alone at some sleazy places like striptease, One other things that really bogle me is how can a credit card company allow one to pile $hundred of thousands of dollars for so long, What an evil spirit.

[@phlushphish793]

These documents are done with such Love & Mercy!

[@gib59er56]

" And the meek shall inherent the earth" At least thats what the priests at the Temples of Syrinx told me