Forest City Special Financial Zone, Penang DAP Election Analysis, GISB Scandal Reactions |Episode 41

[@sueliu4811]

Anthony Loke and Steven Sim are very well received in the Malay communities is because they are capable leaders and most importantly they are eloquent in the Malay language. I hope more Chinese see the importance of this skill. Mastering the Malay language doesn’t mean one has to give up Mandarin. It is painful to see Chinese vernacular school students struggle to speak fluently in Malay.

[@tengfs]

Thus selling out the legitimate interests of the Chinese community

[@tengfs]

As for SJKC students’ Malay language proficiency, I don’t blame them at all. There’s a very solid reason why they are struggling in speaking Malay but to them it’s a non-issue. They have zero daily practical use for it. So save your concern. They are doing well in life despite their lack of proficiency in BM.

[@travischang5565]

​@tengfs if u think that way these people may have less reasons to become Mysians. Not knowing its own national language is something not to be proud of. I'm sure Sgporeans do know malay as it's their national language despite English is an official language.

[@tengfs]

@@travischang5565 why are you parroting the Ketuanan Melayu narrative as a non-Bumiputra? In other words, you’re being a neo-Nazi here. Show me the law where it states that not knowing the national language disqualifies one from becoming a citizen.

[@tengfs]

@@travischang5565 not every Singaporean knows the national language. In fact, the majority of them do not. Only Singaporeans of Malay and some Indian descent do as they studied the language subject in school.

[@tomsclim72]

Lim clan out pls. Secondly let Ram lead Penang as Steven will be a better candidate in federal to show that Penang ppl can accept son of Tiger to lead.

[@Sushiriceoreo]

Lim stay in! Lim will always be strong!! Fk chow

[@kcchiok]

it's tough decision, but Steven Sim is the best fit in DAP stronghold in Penang, agreed with you that Steven Sim is doing well in federal, I wished more capable new generation of DAP into government. Anthony Loke is the MVP of Minister, look at the Transport Ministry changes under his leadership; way better than white hair Wee

[@singhkris]

It will be a cold day in hell if DAP (not the people of Penang) will permit it.

[@hasifD]

Thank you Are We Okay. Really enjoyed the discussions. Memang mantap. Keep it up❤

[@famshah9286]

❤ you two, Dr. Ong & Peter! Keep up the good work!

[@zhengzheng7318]

😅

[@TheLolism]

Hello Peter & Dr Ong, watching all the way from Auckland New Zealand. Glad to watch you guys live!

[@wayneyeap3254]

Have been diligently listening to this every week from abroad. Keep up the good work!

[@moot2046]

KTM ETS max speed is 140km/h. The reason of ETS long traveling time is due to too many stop. So the biggest problem of HSR is not just funding, but too many stop and high running cost will make it unsustainable.

[@westwoodly]

Indonesia first to have HRS successfully running in Southeast Asia. Even less developed Laos has it. Now Vietnam is seriously planning one. Malaysia? Still entangled - dillying dallying till the cow comes home? The next administration may veto the idea again?

[@csm1595]

Malaysian politics is too transient for investors. Focus on SFZ is due to current Agong, who has vested interest in Forest City and state of Johor. What happens when he steps down? Not to mention Anwar's Govt may or may not last. Other political parties may have different focus areas.

[@ck51250]

@@csm1595 you got to know the incentives provided by the Fed Gov is not perpetual. Foreign or local investors are aware & by the time YDP rein is taken over (or like u highlighted, change of gov) their businesses would hv settle down matured then. Do u mean any logic thinking gov taking over will chase away this investors?...definitely not, right?

[@westwoodly]

Anwar party did not win the previous election. The previous Agung invited him to form the government. He got his enemy UMNO to join the government. Now that UMNO had won two by-elections, UMNO members are emboldened and thinking of abandoning it and going solo for the GE.

[@ck51250]

@@westwoodlyso based on ur contention, who won then & *shld form the gov ? Are you saying that previous YDP didn't do the correct thing to call for the forming of the unity gov ? Be specific in ur points, Sir.

[@StephenGn]

Interesting, enlightening insights on the Charlie family in political, dog eat dog world. It’s time to pass the control to the younger members. Stop DAP members concurrently holding parliamentary seats in both Federal and State governments. Stop these selfish , greedy DAP MPs , and provide opportunities for the younger members.

[@ck51250]

Yes, then garner ur own support and get sufficient nos. That's how the "Game of Throne is played...rite, Sir?

[@luckm8852]

As OKM said, the population in Penang is increasingly becoming Malay majority. If DAP doesn't take the first step to put good Malay candidates in top leadership positions and do that sooner than later, PAS will get there first.

[@We_Want_It_All]

​@user-wy4to4li1p 💯💯💯 Even OKM said so himself. DAP should just drop the whole narrative that they're not a Chinese party and just own up to it. Just do like MCA MIC, they don't try to _lie_ or try to _trick_ others into thinking they're not a race based party but rather, they're saying yes we're a race based party but we're tolerant and accepting of others and we can work together. But hey it's their lost, right.., so..

[@ck51250]

@@luckm8852 let's say u are right. Of the 14 states, only this single state is managed by a non bumi. I would say let it take its course. If the Malay voters shy away, there is nthg much the pty can do even if u they hv a bumi CM. It's the pty who is being voted, not the person. Dud u read one of the commenter that w their internal leadsrship issues, there may even lost the confidence of the non bumi. We are practical ppl & so are Penangites. OKM became the MP of Bangi is bcoz of PKR pulling the bumi voters...u think he & his pty can standalone. He knows....🤔

[@wmazim910]

@@ck51250 now you see racial treatment, no longer about meritocracy... for me,we are okay with steven sim, or OKM. But we got prob with ramasamy. Fortunately he is gone now

[@audreygiamlayhoon]

It is going to be very difficult for investors to have confidence in the SFZ, HSR, SEZ, if VEPs can't even be issued in a proper manner.

[@ck51250]

I didn't know so many S'poreans coming in to M'sia eventhough more than 62k VEPs were issued and 100k were approved but pending issuance. Last minute? And btw, SEZ don't need VEPs when there is RTS? 🤔

[@chekeocha4923]

Yeah lah..a lot applied last minutes

[@audreygiamlayhoon]

​@ck51250 The point is that, investors looking at the application and issuance of VEPs, will have to wonder about the process for the various permits related to starting operations in the SEZ, and the SFZ. There will be many more layers of permits and licences. Just think about building a factory. Building permits ? Fire safety permits? Work permits? Business licensing permits? U turns or no U turns if not issued by the issuer? On the HSR, the problem is not Singapore. Wanting nfrastructure, but expecting China to pay for it upon benefits expressed through Stream of Consciousness explanation of benefits requires a level of trust that would be unreasonably high.

[@ck51250]

@@audreygiamlayhoon you kidding, right? Because of VEP it put a dampen on SEZ, HSR etc? I just commented in here that a ttl of 62k VEPs were issued w more than 100k approved but pending issuance. So, based on ur analogy how many "potential investors" are driving down to Johor? We must be having a huge influx of investors from the south...🤔

[@audreygiamlayhoon]

@@ck51250 If you think this is about driving, rather than systemic inefficiencies, then you misunderstand.

[@phuisanliau1449]

Thanks for the heads up on HSR verdict by Dec 2024. Will look out for it. Anthony Loke #janjibuatkerja

[@muaddib_uzul]

excellent podcast 👍👍👍

[@tc6402-v3j]

Penangites are thororughly disgusted with the manoeuvring for the CM ship and this is tranlated into the assembly men's responses. Only selected business men benefited from certain policies and connections. If DAP is not careful, what happened to Gerakan can happen to them too. Don't take Penang voters for granted. Look at the Sg Bakap by election turnout.

[@ck51250]

@@tc6402-v3j fully agreed w you, Sir. Esp that loud mouth MP.

[@tc6402-v3j]

The loud mouth MP is Penang's new opposition leader

[@CK-pv5yq]

Good job 👍

[@thesage6996]

Best way to increase subscribers to 100K is to change blur sotong host Peter to another no-holds-barred leader such as Teng Chang Kim or political analyst such as Murray Hunter to bounce opinions such as what OKM did in KS and play a better opposition role than the opposition. Otherwise, it's either OKM behind the curtain news of DAP or other news where other podcasts can give better behind the curtain views way faster some more..

[@khooboobeng3234]

Mr. Peter, The facts of the matter on GISB is that it is of national interest and there should be no attempts to sweep it under the carpet. This involves children and women of all young ages. Irrespective if religions or culture the act to bring this to an end is a must. The comments for all groups are not reflected on race or religion but on the matter of justice. Do not allow anyone to abuse the under age groups. I hope to see a real justice is done in the interest of all responsible Malaysians.

[@westwoodly]

Because the issue belongs to, and committed by, one of the three Rs, other interested parties are not allowed to comment or even suggest anything. Otherwise they will end up like DAP Teresa Kok and get hammered and ridiculed by the UMNO kampong doctor.

[@blose4793]

JB has been touting to be the next Shenzhen for past 20 years, for me, the news is one ear in, one ear out. The VEP debacle is deep reminder that many Singaporeans should just 'watch and smile'. Many lost their investments into the Iskandar project, Singaporeans know Malaysia's policies will flip-flop. The developer of Forest City is broke and their JB project is now a dead town. Many rich Singaporeans will continue to buy over-priced properties in JB, they are happy to lose money.

[@westwoodly]

The royal family has a big stake in the project. It cannot afford to fail in his own land. Ex-PM Mahathir did not agree with the Forest City development because he was against building a new Chinatown made up 700,000 rich communists in Malaysia. It upsets the ethnic balance and make the Malays in Johore unhappy because they are unable to afford living there.

[@blose4793]

@@westwoodly Mahathir and the Johor royal have a history of friction dating back to the father of the current Johor Sultan. That 'father' physically beat up a hockey coach and Mahathir used that reason to remove the immunity given to royalty in Malaysia. Over the years, Johor royalty often criticized Mahathir, and when the latter was voted into power again, he bullied the Sultan by removing the concessions given to Forest City project.

[@wongyk2827]

State government shouldn’t ask for payment to adhere to certain standards. They should set a higher standard for themselves.

[@oliverodell3105]

The Agong has been clear that he wants to see the government develop outside of KL, seeing it as an opportunity to provide greater opportunities across the country and reduce the infrastructure burden on KL. Its a super smart move and with our efforts to join Brics, I think there is an opportunity across the global South to assist with financials to support it. Re: Singapores input and decision making they're pretty straightforward, as long as there is no corruption they look for things that assist Singapore (which is kind of what we should all be doing)

[@leealex24]

It is fine but the only talent you will get in Johor are those based in Johor or Johoreans living in SG. Thats all.

[@AHMADKIOSK]

He is wrong to say that it is well accepted by DAP. Many many members were very unhappy. I'm disappointed that OKM does not explain that this process is a way for the leaders to interfere in picking the leaders

[@ck51250]

If that the case, the states' members chooses the wrong person to be in the council...all 15 of them, if u heard ? It be alot of convincing to do for the "leader" wanting certain person to helm the CM post. More so, a certain leader willingness to compromised despite having the highest votes. An eg was even given for Sgor State whereby Gobind Deo was appointed the Chairman. Members there dislike too? 🤔

[@ck51250]

@@AHMADKIOSK to be fair. I didn't hear in the podcast that OKM said "it was well accepted by the members". He even explained the process how the selection of the "leader" by the 15 council members. This has being embedded in the pty constitution for decades. Even in Sgor the leader was chosen under the similar process. But I do agree the sys can be abused unlike previous terms whereby majority members are agreeable to the leader chosen. I guess time change & pty may need to re-look into their constitution.

[@We_Want_It_All]

I'm one of those who watches without subscribing nor liking. Although i like hearing OKM's stance on things, but with all things political, dengar boleh, percaya jangan. I voted for OKM last time but he didn't do anything for Bangi. So no subscription from me.

[@thaya08]

Waiting for OKM

[@panzeyman]

Can talk about Lynas please? Why has PH changed its stance on this?

[@ck51250]

@@panzeyman view "Yang Bakar Menteri" podcast. Clear explanation given by Rafizi on ur query. Anyway, to make it short... we are binded by contract (entered by previous administration) & any termination would hv cost us a bomb. .

[@zikang7073]

@@ck51250 The operating license is extended on last year (2023 Oct). PMX form his cabinet on 2022 Dec😀.

[@goadam4956]

make sire all those elected to stand as MP shd be fluent in speaking bahasa msia..see the problem faced by alice lau as the deputy speaker in the dewan rakyat

[@sureendas6982]

Steven Sim is a better choice for being a CM in time to come.

[@Optimus19]

Good Penang DAP hss settled and with Sim in the lead, it's a good choice. On GISB, both Malay or non Malay are asking the same questions, where have the authorities been? Can't be they just found out about them. Kids being abused. What's Jakim doing? Busy with other minor things?

[@zikang7073]

Polis should bear the responsibility as well, this is not only a religion case

[@iananduncle1675]

Hello... JAKIM has no prosecution authority la since it no Akta backing it. JAKIM is not the body to do that. That role can only be done by the various JA- bodies of each state. JAIS has done its work in Selangor.

[@Optimus19]

Where there is a will there is way. Jakim has powers for deviant teaching. Yeah now suddenly no Akta etc. Yeah yeah... Another way to say close one eye. Agreed police should have done more. No need to wait for jakim etc to bring to a raid.. hope all our kids regardless of religion are safe from these monsters and some of them hide behind religious clothings. Oh yeah it goes for all religions who have men who abuse kids.. So don't get hyper sensitive yah. Ours kids need protection. Time to fix the mistakes and don't let this happen again

[@iananduncle1675]

@@Optimus19 Are you dense in the head? Are you suggesting JAKIM break the law? Get yourself educated and divert your criticism towards the correct authorit(ies) e.g. JAIS, JAWI, JAIP, not JAKIM.

[@Optimus19]

@@iananduncle1675 yeah I am dense and uneducated. Yet here I am and you're engaging with me. What does that make you? Lol... When you don't have the facts, use the law. When both not with you, start calling names and say people are uneducated. Yeap you win 😂

[@shincy25]

Lim Kit Siang and Lim Guan Eng are alike, they contributed a lot to party but also made a lot enemies, they are too chinese in the eye of Malays, even they fight for all, but particularly they attacked a lot PAS/UMNO previously who shielded behind 3R get them backlashed, LGE's bankruptcy remarks also literally get him much disliked, especially East Malaysia. He did well, he tanked a lot of bullies & offenses from opponent party, but he also the reason for the Dawn of New Era, so let the new generation bring it forward, do better, and less toxics or mulut puaka. Even Malays also rejecting all mulut puaka from Malays party.

[@hagarhagar2695]

You already spill the beans by saying Lim family

[@dashong8912]

If the HSR is built, it should start in Johor, not Singapore.

[@ck51250]

Don't get you, Sir. Both countries are building on their own lines. So, what is ur main point if the HSR line is build, starting from JB, and go northwards till KL? Glad to hear from u...🤔

[@dashong8912]

@@ck51250 I think there's a lot to think about before rushing for a SG-KL line. And there may be good reasons to have it start at JB. First, Malaysia has full control. Remember it costs Malaysia almost RM300m the last time for nothing. And we still couldn't agree on many things. Second, a Sg-KL line basically bypasses JB even if there is a stop in JB. Instead of JB developing as an end node, it becomes one of the stops along the line. Third, it brings visitors in to JB from Sg if they want to use the HSR. Connections between JB and Sg can be further improved without the HSR playing that role.

[@ck51250]

@@dashong8912.Sir, both c'tries will hv full control on their respective lines. I hope u not thinking S'pore will hv say on the line on other side. Secondly, u hv to get S'pore involved being one world financial ctr. Why do u think Johor came up w JS SEZ & wanted the RTS. Thirdly, the HSR stops will bring immense development & multiplier effects into the States involved besides completing the rail link under the China Belt & Road Initiatives. It's not as brevity as u think. Rmbr the NSE when there were alot of objections decades bck bcoz of the cost involved...👌

[@leealex24]

Yes, no point build from sg as there is rts already. If JB -> KL -> Penang, you also keep it an all domestic project

[@ck51250]

@@leealex24 u hv to ask S'pore why they need it, but I go bck to the China Belt & Road initiatives. It's not as if we are paying their portion of the line.

[@ravindrandoraisamy9758]

It will be some time or perhaps never before Malaysia gets its politics right.

[@dnaangel86]

There will still be something for people to attack. Things like Zairil just a puppet or baruah for example. We have already seen these attacks going on against leaders who are seen as close or friendly to DAP.

[@hryhry4922]

1:05:46 former PETRONAS President/CEO TS Wan Zul grow up within PETRONAS. He started his career as an engineer in one PETRONAS plant. Unlike current President.

[@ycl4178]

OKM beh tahan the game. 😅

[@casab654]

The project with special sometimes is based on fishy ideas like “special military operation, special financial zone, special draw 4D”

[@hkf6216]

Karpah families also very like Lim family, many brothers sisters in DAP

[@khooboobeng3234]

Well done! Mr. Peter and Mr. OKM. A very informative and well presented program. Congratulations to making it to 25,000 plus subscribers. You are the best best and well presented and very constructive program. The knowledge is vase and subjects are of national interest. Thank you

[@faultylee]

The comment about ilicit tobacco and alchohol sales here in Sarawak is so true. I see it all the time. Kids can buy cigerates on the corner of the market which is 1 street away from our police station here in broad day light. The guy selling it has been there for ages. He even touts passer by to buy cigarettes! I've also noticed recently of a new illegal gambling setup where they open a 24x7 sundry shop that sells instant noodles and some drinks as the front to hosting illegal gambling at the back of the shop. It's popping up everywhere. 2nd one is otw in our housing area. I'm not sure how to report this and I can't report it to the local authority fearing that I'll get retaliation. Any suggestion on where I can report this anonymously?

[@SongPeehoa]

How can this happen for ages and the authorities don't know?? No ketua Kampung?? Or community leaders? Every Adun and YBs should be concerned for this for people of this country otherwise they dare to be Aduns and MPs???. Don't know who or what to report???

[@beautifuldream108]

Idealistic country doesn't exists in this world. All things must be puzzled and mix-matched at the right time.😊 What's we wish only to be realistically happen with the approved by powerful positioned team. If you cannot accept that team culture, then don't sabotage with inappropriate discussions or comments.😅😅😅 My opinion.😊

[@lamkokwai629]

Ok,la,i just subcribed la to this chanell la!

[@BajetBest]

I don't think Zairil's appointment (if) as sec gen will move the needle that much. It might score some brownie points. But for the middle class Malay, Steven Sim is more acceptable than Zarul. We are looking for someone who has more genuine approach instead of just a token.

[@travischang5565]

KJ's thought on putting Zairil as DAP sec gen actually one of the ways to put "DAP cina" mindset to rest, surely will shut those from UMNO n PN. However, Zairil has been low profile as of late so it's remain to be seen how this could play out. Imagine, having a malay as the highest post in DAP that the Chinese adores. Just like how Steven Sim a daring among the malays. Just a thought...

[@panzeyman]

Off-topic: BUDI... I qualified for BUDI and received the money first on 17th July , nothing in August, received again 9th Sep. What happened to August? Where can I go to follow-up on this?

[@SongPeehoa]

Please speak and pronounce your words distinctively because at times I misconstrue a few words ( Mr.Peter). Speed is important though but must not be slippery because words become different when speed is applied without less care. Thank you. Maybe my hearing is beginning to slacken but not with Mr. Botak.

[@leekimhong1014]

You all see other Chinese or mandarin KZbinr who focus predominantly on negative aspects of the political dnynamic between PH and PAS

[@gkr7019]

Peter..I did not Went indepth..should be I did not Go indepth..grammatical error

[@sueliu4811]

A problem with the deteriorating education system in Malaysia? English tak fasih, BM tak fasih.

[@90taetaeya]

What do you think of Malaysia’s anti-gay laws?

[@MunTatLai]

My take of GIS H is that law enforcement closed an eye because it is wmislin thing. Just like former IGP Jhalid Bakst who threw aside an Ipoh high court ruling to catch an Indian convert .mudlims who knew little about the group had in fact prided his group as a business success. And Akmal simply simply wanted to bury a sham in his race.

[@bananachew4736]

Hearing Mr. Money statement sounds very much like Charlie 2.0 is involved 😅 I meant on the GISB issue also our government

[@oliverodell3105]

The SFZ isn't just about China come on. The current governments "signalling" has led to a massive recovery and excitement around Malaysia and the Ringgit. Where is the appreciation of that?

[@doreimiii]

Bollocks... This called gadai

[@CK-pv5yq]

Can we have borderless free travel

[@cang9695]

Zainial YB is not so smart nor active in doing his job - dont think he deserve as Penang vice minister

[@calebfwm]

Clearly not with LIM clan..

[@drbilltay]

oh no.....not lim clan...charlie clan...

[@ahmadkamalalanghassan7271]

Akmal Salih UMNO not PAS

[@mokt7717]

Politician should know when to retire… you think the people need you but it is NOT…

[@peterchin7796]

reminds me of one of the formal events where I took the role as emcee, a Penang exco were invited as guest of honor, he was really late when he reached the venue, and when we saw him, I can very much tell that he was trying to recover from a hangover, so there's that 😬

[@leeyiwei11]

Singapore sanction Russia, That proves it😂

[@tg988]

Generally Malays, UMNO, PAS, Bersatu want DAP to drop Malaysian Malaysia concept. Would DAP drop it? The phrase Malaysian Malaysia is so yesteryear (mid 1960s, LKY era). Malaysian Malaysia concept is more suitable for assimilated community. Phrase like Malaysian Chinese, Malaysian Indian dan Malaysian Malay are more suitable for integrated community.

[@azadkamil22]

Even the right wing UK feel the same. Thats what they named themselves nationalist. UMNO, PAS are right centered based political whilst DAP PKR more left wing Joe Biden Kamala style.

[@azadkamil22]

Both spectrum have same concern...

[@ck51250]

@@tg988 Aren't the rest of the parties the same too w their own ideology dated bck to the 60s. Why point the gun at DAP only, to be fair?

[@azadkamil22]

Malaysian Malaysia will make Malaysia become like Indonesia, only 1 language. But, actually vise versa. DAP Malaysian Malaysia concept is like Singapore... which Malay culture abolished and follow western style country. All nationalist not agree with that. Even for the British people

[@azadkamil22]

All part of the world want to maintain their indigeneous culture.. is DAP want to destroy it and follow US style? Hence, we will continue argue about this forever...

[@RUHappyATM]

Without the prospect of PR why would any foreigners sink their money into real estate in Malaysia?

[@tanchengs5502]

46:20 Why not just let Ram Kabal be the next Secretary General or even Chief Minister of Penang.

[@yeongvoonkang1966]

He voluntarily stepped down bro

[@tanchengs5502]

@@yeongvoonkang1966 For now only right? I meant next term.

[@SweeMingOoi-n5k]

HSR Malaysia should go solo without SG.

[@phuisanliau1449]

A non-Chinese Sec-Gen ONLY after a Chinese DPM via MOF route. I want to see a gomen that can help Petronas count better, domestically and internationally

[@Avarta8]

Peter or Mr Money is talking rubbish when it comes to the future of DAP leadership. He is not pragmatic or has a real understanding of the real reason for race-based parties. The racial profile of the party is reflective of the type of politics being played by the majority race and DAP alone cannot control the narrative of the entire population. So long as UMNO, PAS, Bersatu and other similar parties play the race card, the other races will have to coalesce around another party to represent their interests. If DAP does not want to represent the interest of this group, another party will be formed to do so. Given the above, it is not to say one day in the future, Malaysian political parties cannot be truly multiracial. I also wish it will happen one day,,.hopefully in my children's lifetimes.

[@RUHappyATM]

1:03:15 "Petronas contribute 1/3 of government revenues through direct and indirect taxes..." Wow. Really needs transparency regarding where the federal government gets most of its money from, instead of hiding the sources. Seems that Borneo has been punching above its weight, contributing more, yet getting the short end of the stick. I say, fudge Malaya.

[@We_Want_It_All]

Bro, rather than you wanna say fudge Malaya, maybe you should do self reflection on yourself. You lot have been voting for statesmen robbers and then you wanna blame others for being a downtrodden state. And Petronas doesn't just gali in Borneo only, bhai.. They dig elsewhere too.. 🙄 🤦

[@RUHappyATM]

@@We_Want_It_All LOL. Obviously you don't know how to start a business. Without the O&G rights, there is no Petronas. Remember what happened with 1MDB, how it had to borrow to start the fund?

[@We_Want_It_All]

​@@RUHappyATM lol.. sure.., deflect from the actual issue. Enjoy your coping mechanism.

[@RUHappyATM]

@@We_Want_It_All LOL. If you don't have any assets (e.g. rights to resources), I'm sure no banks will lend you money to set up any companies.

[@chewlilian7620]

Why must Malaysia pull in Singapore for the HSR project? Wouldn't it be less complicated if the HSR just stop at JB?

[@abdulfahmyabdulaziz4459]

OKM next PM

[@EvelynnMei]

I think YB Lim Hui Ying are a bit too docile (first impression) compared to other personalities like Theresa Kok or even Hannah Yeoh. DAP needs to groom more younger women leaders with substance like Jamaliah Jamaluddin of DAP Selangor. And why on earth would Zairil Khir Johari is considered as a non-Chinese? He's born with 100% Chinese DNA, except being legally adopted by a Malay step father, hence the Malay name right? Am I missing something here?

[@tanchengs5502]

55:30 From what we've seen, they're trying to build a self-sustaining utopia of a "halal kingdom." This is shocking enough for those minority groups who still believe this country is secular and want to continue to be a diverse country for the next generation. As a non muslim, I hope that through GISB incident, the majority will reflect on the moral sentiments of the so-called religious leaders, and also question the ideals of the Islamic State promoted by PAS, and focus on the development of the country, the national economy and people's livelihood.

[@We_Want_It_All]

I have a feeling you've never been to the east coast and you've been watching too many Chinese racist videos. And just to entertain your claims on "halal kingdom", but not related to the ajaran sesat GISB, everyone knows Islam is the official religion in Malaysia, i don't know why you're surprised. And i feel like you've been living in a cave or maybe otak cetek or not really smart in doing business, cause there's 1.9B Muslims in the world and that's a big market. Bigger than your motherland China. I'll let you figure out the rest on your own.

[@ChaiThensen]

Dap has a history of lim clan hope now no lim to control

[@yeongvoonkang1966]

If the suggestion of putting Zairil as DAP sec is for the sake of changing the optics / perceptions toward DAP, I’m afraid that’s not gonna work. Malays are still gonna say that Zairil is only a poster boy with Chinese as the mastermind, just like how PMX is now being painted by PAS as a puppet controlled by DAP. Whoever has the political & ministerial competency should go up the ranks, that should be the only way how any organisation run itself

[@alfchuah]

Both of you and those “exposed” ones are so wrong about it. You just wanna hide and don’t wanna face the issue, of what religion has really brought and can do. That’s why you don’t wanna talk about it.

[@luckm8852]

Perhaps OKM is aware of the rift within the Muslim community in Malaysia. Since Perlis mufti Dr Maza was the one who exposed this, "the other" group are not too pleased not necessarily because they support GISB but more due to the animosity between the two groups of religious schools of thought. GISB generally belongs to the so-called "traditional" Nusantara school who are welcoming of tarekat and their practices which are frowned upon by those who are more "puritan" and opposed to practices considered to be innovation (bida'ah) not sanctioned by the Quran and authentic hadith. Most of the personalities in charge of the religious authorities in most states in Malaysia are the "traditionalists" and those in charge of the Perlis authority are not in the same boat. There have been back and forth accusations and name calling between the two groups, with the Perlis group often labelled Wahabi, which the Perlis group denies. It has been speculated that the traditional groups in the state authorities have long accepted other tarekat groups that have similar religious rituals with GISB/Arqam/Aurad Muhammadiyah. Hence, if they now come out to strongly condemn these practices, the other tarekat groups would be affected as well. Lots of people find themselves walking on eggshells and having to skirt around the issue.

[@yeongvoonkang1966]

Interesting, first time I ever heard of these

[@luckm8852]

This is quite common knowledge within the Malay/Muslim community. It has been going on for decades actually but has been more prominent these days perhaps due to social media. Non-Muslims are less likely to be aware as this issue doesn't feature in their daily lives.

[@We_Want_It_All]

​@@luckm8852 nope. Maybe in your head it's like that and you want to believe it as that. There's no 1 group 2 groups 3 groups, just like there's no traditional / moderate/ liberal iislam. If it's not in the Quran and hadith, then it's not iislam that they're practicing. Try harder to spread fitnah.

[@luckm8852]

@@We_Want_It_All there are literally thousands of videos right here on KZbin from both groups and more accusing each other of bidaah and wahabism, as the case may be. Nobody needs to spread anything. Everyone can see it for themselves.

[@knfk]

Did Mr OKMan not try to speak to Charlie privately to iron out the issues? I mean, publicly embarrassing his own senior party leader does seem a bit on the rash side, doesn't it?

[@magicalmanfromwonderland]

Sounds like you had not been following this long enough. He did speak to him privately, but Charlie brought OKM to the disciplinary board to punish him. But was struck down. There is hanky panky at work here from the old powers to try and put the younger ones in their place to hold on to control.

[@knfk]

@@magicalmanfromwonderland I must have missed it. please point me to the time and episode where OKM said he spoke to Charlie privately to resolve the issue.

[@ck51250]

What OKM is touching on DAP is not public policy anymore but more on "internal issues based on his own optics & what he heard" & it's really unprofessional of him to disclose in the open as he is still a member. If it was the case, then what should u do being a past leader...u mean OKM can't garner enough support....is he insinuating this?

[@seantan4702]

Drama Ong go on youtube create drama, good la but just prefer more constructive things from adult.

[@azadkamil22]

LOL very funny if you said GISB scandal freely operate without action, but non-muslim corporate being cruelty handled by the govt, as if this podcast portrayed this country like APARTHEiD. This racist podcast not even want to highlight all these reflexologies center with special treatment, club with drugs, VIP rooms, etc still being operated in Malaysia under radar? Be fair and choose your word carefully

[@Multiverse678]

Apartheid is a policy that is founded on the idea of separating people based on racial or ethnic criteria. I think, it's not unusual that ethnic minority in many parts of the world will likely encounter some form of discrimination (or unfavourable impression by others), eg. US has 'black lives matter' movement. The world would need to come together in unity, by promoting greater acceptance of all people without consideration of their background, and to promote love, not hate.

[@d7adict]

GiSB supporter detected 😂

[@azadkamil22]

Dont you know that Apartheid Regime in South Africa, was controlled by minority White Group and undermining majority black people? Dont you know Israel want to keep Apartheid regime because the Jews are minority inside Greater Israel? The problem with apartheid is because the minority of group trying to consolidate the authority power by setting up rule race base and ethic cleansing..

[@azadkamil22]

So better choose your word correctly next time

[@KlKl-k4x]

BozoBotak! The entire Forest City development comprising of four islands is helmed by Country Garden. Getting the PRC government to support Country Garden's project in Malaysia is, therefore, a no-brainer. There's no need to "act smart" and complicate a straightforward matter.

[@raymondwan-k4w]

country garden died...

[@doreimiii]

​@@raymondwan-k4wmy condolences... Cremated or buried... Takut what kind of ghosts can reappear je. 😊

[@leealex24]

Only people who will move there are Johoreans based in sg or johor and foreigners thats all.