Forests in the olden days

[@flababofa]

His cadence makes me feel like it's going to turn into a Monty Python sketch.

[@HubertofLiege]

Jordan Gutierrez HES A WITCH!

[@stridur8846]

thats exactly what i was thinking bahaha

[@jeff3640]

And now... the Larch. The Larch.

[@rhyswatkins7545]

Also, the fact Lloyd has a passing resemblance to Graham Chapman does help.

[@charlietheanteater3918]

Jordan Gutierrez (Horseman be heads him) FRANK!

[@FlintSparkedStudios]

I thought I went insane for a short moment at the fungi part.

[@Vengir]

FlintSparked It's kinda a necessity. Without forest management you migth run out of trees to cut down.

[@competenceattractsluck6997]

That's why you shouldn't eat them.

[@FarSeeker8]

No, nobody know the truffles I've seen because of the fungus among us.

[@Cephas]

Yes... Almost as if you were eating them.

[@rockchilliad905]

FlintSparked are they Psychedelic ??

[@habibadam960]

"this wood has not been managed for 75 years..." - i feel ya

[@tinafabulous5309]

😂😂😂

[@HR-yd5ib]

you look good for your age!

[@shlak]

you look good for your age!

[@gtVel]

you look good for your age!

[@Reijvi]

you look good for your age!

[@blakevollbrecht9026]

forests in the olden days were also home to bands of merry men, it's well documented

[@patmaloney5735]

were men men in tights

[@ShucklethedittoDan]

Pat Maloney if the men are wearing tights then I would suppose so. Otherwise no.

[@rach_laze]

@@patmaloney5735 we roam around the forest looking for fights

[@jontiummorkimus7111]

Merry men still inhabit the woods of today, although now they're known as drunken louts.

[@ZigzagBuddha]

Hahahahaha!

[@KadenKilgore]

“Yes, those are rhododendrons” That delivery killed me

[@jimmymcjimmyvich9052]

i had a roll of linolium delivered once((

[@daviebaggins]

Id like to buy some cheese please.

[@Stonedead1991]

I mean, he is correct

[@HatfieldsvsMccoys]

Literally the most English thing ever: "Oh dear, I seem to have been shot."

[@kennethschlegel870]

i thought i was watching a Chieftain tank video for a second "Oh bugger the tank is on fire"

[@RubenPrenn]

oh deer

[@IamINERT]

"O bloody hell , There's a hole in our plane" "I suggest we just jump ,William"

[@kevintwine2315]

Can everyone stop getting shot! (Lock stock reference)

[@Seraph10101]

7:34 is where its at

[@LLAMASbluecar]

I’d like to know what this man has in all of his pockets

[@breAnnasmama]

Hannah D ha hahaha 👏🏽👏🏽😂omg me too ! Sorry but your comment deserves way more likes and laughs lollol!! That’s hilarious. Girl , no telling what’s in there but I bet there’s all kinds of who’s it’s and what’s it’s going on in each one ... and perhaps a letter to himself , from himself to remind him where he put all the contents of his pockets , in the event of a pocket emergency .,, or he probably just has them all filled with sandwiches , idk 😂. Seriously though , your comment had me cracking up 🤣! I think he owes it to us to do a separate video about what’s in there 😂

[@mmmbiscuits1211]

it drugs

[@krainey]

Kendal mint cake. A pen knife. Zippo lighter a pipe and a pouch of gold block. A ball of twine.. A real ale beer mat.. Hip flask with homemade sloe gin. And a small pot of vaseline and gaffer tape n zip ties...

[@josephdonais8091]

antihistamine, bug spray, sun block, chap stick and tissues

[@beckybrown1123]

A sword

[@jaredticer6255]

“First you must find... another shrubbery! Then, when you have found the shrubbery, you must place it here, beside this shrubbery, only slightly higher so you get a two layer effect with a little path running down the middle.”

[@Johnny-da-Cl0wn]

A path! A path!

[@karlerikpaulsson88]

"and then you must chop down the mightest tree in the forest with... a HERRING!!"

[@FulcrumHQ99]

serious, interesting talk *FUNKY FUNGY FUFNUFNUNKYKKYY FUNGG-* serious, interesting talk continues

[@johnlenz420]

haha i was so caught offgaurd when that came up in the vid,, hes def talked to mushroom before 0.o cuz they sound like that

[@jimmymcjimmyvich9052]

Fun Fungi)))

[@arthas640]

that was one of he most terrifying things ive ever seen

[@Inquisitor_Vex]

That was my favourite bit.

[@curioticgamer1723]

Funky fungi

[@Eedg769]

It's weird watching this forest described as "unusual" because in the U.S. most of the forests look like this...

[@jedimasterjoe5386]

Yeah Maine has the most untouched forest in the lower 48 this teaches you the Brit’s mainly the English couldn’t survive in the woods

[@jedimasterjoe5386]

Tiuz Kanggz Nigga I’m part Native American I know more of the woods then You

[@stolasish1184]

You’re both quite woody, good for you

[@jedimasterjoe5386]

Both Charles

[@MarilynMalkovich]

@@jedimasterjoe5386 Do you know much about smallpox vaccines?

[@daphne8802]

"Oops, they're paying attention to me, time to leave" calmest reaction ever to seeing wasps wtf

[@likbezlik]

Hm, I never understood why people lose their shit when they see a wasp... Just stay calm and don't swing your arms around and you should be perfectly fine. I have been stung by a wasp a few times but I still never lose my shit.

[@6105boe]

It depends on the species of wasp too of course but yeah if you don’t act aggressively chances are the wasp doesn’t care enough to go through the trouble of stinging you. I’ve had a wasp nest pretty much in my bathroom (there were at least 10-20 of them in there every morning) where I had to go every morning for about a week before I could get it removed. Haven’t been stung once.

[@an_f-14_tomcat]

@@6105boe lmao sounds like an old military story, like the camp's bathroom had wasps or something

[@indestructiblemadness8531]

@@an_f-14_tomcat Last time I visited a friend, i opened up the front gate, only to find wasps IN the Gate. It seems wasps have decided to build their nest into the locking mechanism. It made me nervous, but the friend just shrugged it off. And the wasps did seem pretty calm.

[@an_f-14_tomcat]

@@indestructiblemadness8531 they're the friend's automated home defense system

[@brianpritchard3684]

He changed everything I thought I knew about medieval wood in mere minutes

[@lucasc5622]

your previous extensive research on medieval woods was wasted!

[@likewoahdude23]

6:57 you snapped a leaf off! now those woods aren't "unmanaged" anymore....

[@gargaduk]

Same thought

[@numnut1516]

Haha

[@ericdaniel323]

@Trouser Troll microgement

[@jauxro]

This is just like how I manage my problems

[@BeansGrubbaAlfredo]

aw sheeet back to year 0

[@triggethridge9326]

"oh deer, i seem to be shot by a hunter gatherer"

[@lolxdtyp]

Trigg Ethridge Oh deer, I can't bear the pain!

[@AnarchistMetalhead]

"yes, like a horse with horns....."

[@bpouelas]

This needs to be on a shirt

[@HAL-nt6vy]

Let me support the excellent trigger discipline displayed in this video.

[@Monochromicornicopia]

its a british deer

[@Hy-Brasil]

It's like John Cleese meets biology with a dash of Old Spice commercial..... "I'm in a wood. A rather pretty wood. And a rather special kind of wood. But more about that later." i think I'm in love.

[@NyanHomeschoolGirl17]

OMG RIGHT?! He’s so lovely, I wonder if he’s single?

[@joschlunde]

The wood your wood could smell like

[@Lummerbummer115]

2:11 sounds like an oblivion NPC.

[@Longtack55]

"Old Spice" - only slightly older than I am.

[@stevenstice6683]

The trees here have the power to block out the sun! But then it gets too cold so it makes another sun. DOUBLE SUN POOOOWWWWWEEEEERRRRR!!!!

[@tristantaber7869]

As an ecologist, I appreciate this so much. The British Isles were dominated by temperate rainforests until the late Mesolithic and early Neolithic period and then they were dramatically transformed into cleared areas and managed forests. Agricultural technology appears to have come to the British Isles later than mainland Europe, but when it did, the forests were overwhelmingly cut down. Early trade records indicate a net import of lumber to medieval, what is now, England.

[@AdobadoFantastico]

I really, REALLY enjoyed this video. This is something I'd never even considered and was *extremely* enlightening. This is what I really appreciate about this channel. So many historical channels just talk about the "fun bits" like weapons and fighting. But that is low hanging fruit because it's way more within my existing knowledge, and is far easier to find info on. I honestly don't know where I'd even begin to find this information and that makes Lindybeige's video on it that much more valuable and precious. Fuck yeah, Lloyd. You are awesome.

[@SirCampsalot9001]

You should check out the book 1492, I had to read it for a cultural anthropology class and it was enlightening.

[@SirCampsalot9001]

It talks about this affect in America, and the public perception about what it used to look like compared to actuality.

[@AdobadoFantastico]

ObviousError Hmm, I'll add it to my reading list. Thanks!

[@nathanarcus8628]

If you're interested in this kind of stuff then just read general natural science books/papers on vegetation communities and how they change over time. I study conservation and environmental management and we learn a lot of this stuff. Really fascinating, awesome to see out condensed like this

[@AdobadoFantastico]

Nathan Arcus It's not just the tending of the forest. It's that he talked about it in context of history and the life of average persons. Most people talking about history cover battles, wars, kings, heroes, and weapons(sometimes armor, but even that gets way less love).

[@antonystringfellow5152]

There were a couple of small patches of real ancient woodland near to where I used to live in Cumbria - in the Vale of Eden. Age: about 10,000 years. I went into them both and it was amazing to see the sheer variety of plant life inside. The trees there are mainly Silver Birch, Mountain Ash, Scots Pine, Hazel, and a few Oak. A lot of light gets through to the forest floor, which has areas of Bracken, Heather, Bilberry, Crowberry and, in the wetter areas, Sphagnum Moss. These fragments used to be part of the forest that covered Britain soon after the last ice-age. They're not open to the public, but there was no one around to see me. Felt very privileged to be able to see how the North of England looked 10,000 years ago, before man cleared the forests.

[@inspectorcal]

yep typical, an ancient forest, the wild outdoors,,,were people are not allowed to tread. assholes.

[@inspectorcal]

@Steffen Bakken yep we are good at destroying things,,and each other, aint that the sad truth.

[@johnnygreenface]

@@inspectorcal not nessisarly sad

[@user-fz3ip3ke8p]

@@johnnygreenface kinda sad to think that we gotta protect the forest against ourselves

[@johnnygreenface]

@@user-fz3ip3ke8p I mean we destroyed Small Pox. No one cries at the loss of that life. We destroyed the Nazis. Being good at destroying things isnt that bad when there are a lot of things we would be better off destroying.

[@smacman68]

I own fourteen acres of this kind of wild growth. I am always tempted to clear it out and make some use of it, but when I walk through and see all the life that is thriving, I always get a soft spot in my heart and leave it alone. I have cleared only a trail to traverse from one side to the other. Nothing more. And even that was left along the sides of the trial to keep it natural as possible. I get dozens of request to harvest some of the more valuable timber (walnut, oak and ash) because it is so old. I have a walnut that is two feet in diameter, 60 feet high and almost perfectly straight with very few knots or branches. I have been offered $10,000 for it alone.

[@ReynardFuchsmann]

Well good on ya for leaving it alone.

[@smacman68]

Xortsa I hope you are being true, not sarcastic. So, I will say thank you.

[@senmafugu]

That's a good deal. Good wood had been pretty scarce nowadays any furniture makers would agree . Market filled with the cheap fast growing varieties. Get that tree to a good size.

[@DevSolar]

We have been forced to cut down a couple of 200+ years old oaks recently, as the neighbours complained about the occassional branch breaking off and falling on thier fence or garage. (No actual harm was done, but... insurance, you know.) It really pained me to see those trees go. Everyone around just *knew* we were just doing it for the money, and would be Filthy Rich (tm) for it. Turned out the oaks had been rotting away from the inside (as oaks are known to do). We got just enough money out of the trees to pay the woodcutter. Keep your wild growth preserved. It's a place of nature, and a place of peace. We have too few of those as it is.

[@erikpoephoofd]

Thanks for keeping it the way it is. That forest being a home to so many animals is way more enriching than a bit of money, don't you think?

[@josiahnsonsproductions8735]

POV: a strange man with a popped collar approaches you in the middle of the woods

[@Centipedes_in_my_ear]

I didn’t even notice his collar until you mentioned it

[@brooxeyyy]

His teachings were not requested, but it is best you listen, for it may turn out to be of use later

[@stephenhumphriesArtist]

Ha pretending that the fungi aetiporus sulphureus has a Lancastrian accent, how absurd, everybody knows aetiporus sulphureus have brummie accents. Hilarious.

[@eleveneleven572]

Yome right there ar kid...

[@CahtodeRay]

AND aetiporus sulphureus are very yam yam. (Yes, I KNOW, that's Blackcountry before I get jumped on!)

[@read-y65]

@@CahtodeRay it ay even black country its wednesbury

[@denisesilveira3427]

Funky fungi!!!

[@Survivethejive]

Białowieża Forest in Poland is supposed to be a remnant of the primeval forest of Europe. I have seen similar forests in Lithuania but not In Britain. There were some ancient forests in England in medieval times though - such as the Weald which is now mostly farmland and housing etc. The Norman conquest actually resulted in more woodland as there were laws against commoners collecting wood, hunting or generally messing about in the woods which belonged to the Norman nobles.

[@michaelcandido2824]

That spot in Poland is where a new species of fungi in the genus anthroporia was coined in 2017-18 from the an older genus called Antrodia.

[@michaelcandido2824]

The mushroom is called anthroporia albobrunea.

[@siegfriedpintar]

Isn't it in Poland and Belarus? I went there from Belarus.

[@misterkefir]

yes, it spreads from Poland to Belarus.

[@SkycladWanderer]

ill get around to watching your stuff, jive. I do want to start with the indo european connection you did though.

[@ZeusPolecat]

Charismatic guide to our ancient world! Great job! Enjoyed it!

[@spudhead169]

Why is your name like that?

[@filippoarceci1954]

You have all my gratitude and all my respect as a natural sciences student for doing this video. It's unbelievable how many people don't know anything about forests and ancient landscapes.

[@ubellubo]

Lindybeige is an exceptionally good presenter. He really should be on tv. Who is he? What is his background. He is a journalist? He is also very funny.

[@IronMan-qi3yg]

@MrZapparin archaeology i thought?

[@bastogne315]

He is from the sperm of Superman and the womb of Mary Magdalen.

[@lildoveable]

This guy is awesome and the video super informative. So lucky to have stumbled across this.

[@AMpr0d]

He piloted a science show for some TV channel before he did youtube. He said it never got accepted/funded and it's one of the reasons he started KZbin. So you could say he has prior experience in presenting, but I would attribute his presenting skills to the fact that he has been doing KZbin for a very long time already.

[@sirtinley-knot2944]

@@bastogne315 why would you randomly choose Mary Magdalene?

[@NickRoman]

I got a real Monty Python vibe off, "Are those rhododendrons!?"

[@baneblade48]

Yes, and now for something completely different...

[@OhFishyFish]

And now Number 1 - The Larch!

[@papi9305]

what i thought when i heard "oh dear i seem to have been shot by a hunter-gatherer"

[@hannabaal150]

Shrubberyyyyyy!

[@bramtencate2170]

They could have carried there by a swallow

[@metatronyt]

7:30 A deer who says "oh Dear!" xD That was priceless :D

[@stinkyyute1180]

I like ur hair it’s piff👅🍑🔥😍❤️😘🏈😂

[@aidansumner8364]

wot

[@josephgroves3176]

Metatron watches this channel? Insta-sub

[@bingbong1821]

at 7.37 when he said hunter gatherer, the hanging branches behind turned towards him.

[@MrZiggy-sk2wg]

Metatron correction "oh dear that was priceless."

[@bobbydyne]

The British really do manage everything if a fallen tree being left alone is of major significance

[@hirdy161]

Brexit is a doddle when you've been coppicing and pollarding every single piece of foliage in the land for thousands of years.

[@laeamminlakana-matt5692]

A fallen tree being left alone isn't the big deal, all dying trees being left alone to fall is. I don't know how much you know of forestry as an industry, but keeping hectares upon hectares of land in check is actually a large industry, one where both the land owner and hired hands can make a profit easily, with quite long waiting periods for the land owners...

[@JoshuaRellick]

As an American, I was kind of shocked by the idea of un-managed woods being something special. It is all over the place in the Eastern US and elsewhere. Even in logged areas, we keep the brush out as it grows back. We just cut it, leave it for years, and then come back and cut again. But pretty much any land in the Eastern US that doesn't have a building, yard, or farm on it is un-managed forest. There is so much forest that most of it isn't logged on a regular basis (mainly because it looks ugly when logged and the money only makes up for that so much, so most people don't want loggers on their property). I live in a rural area and I have almost 5 acres of un-managed forest on my property.

[@Taco_Syndicate]

And now it's all burning. Oopsie.

[@xanthopoulos1825]

Mountain Rogue I think you’re confused most of the north eastern US is currently covered in snow not fire. Like average temps are in the 10s-20s F everyday (-10 to -5 C) if you’re thinking about the west ie California, then sure you can say it on fire but those forest fires have been pretty common over like the past few years.

[@Taco_Syndicate]

@@xanthopoulos1825, that's only if you're talking about this season, not the past few years covering a lot more of the nation. Hell, how old of a comment did I reply to? And how old of one did you? Nice try though.

[@lipat97]

Mountain Rogue Nah he’s right, the fires are mostly a Western thing. There’s quite a bit more to the country than that. He mentioned the Eastern part but Canada and the South and the midwest also have their own natural beauties/cool forests. Even NYC has Cunningham Park. Lot of conservation efforts here in the last century

[@GrugBonkers]

I know right? Here in florida we don't have a single managed forest I've ever seen. The brush here is so high that walking through it is almost a certain way to get covered in ticks, stung by wasps, and bitten by snakes.

[@AntonQvarfordt]

This is one of the least clickable video titles i've come across I think... Naturally I had to click it.

[@thekaze70]

N A T U R A L L Y

[@AntonQvarfordt]

@Lol Why Na I prefer this.

[@StagnantMizu]

You are wrong, it is one of the most tempting seducing titles

[@MrAllallalla]

There are worse titles for the algorithm.

[@mattsupertramp6506]

You didn't want to learn about old wood?

[@kokigami5492]

Great. I've just found another channel I'll be binge watching all night

[@Sembazuru]

You mean beige watching... ;-P

[@Nummi31]

get a girl

[@FenrirFire18]

+Nummi31 or an lbgqt

[@hesgabe]

I feel like the modern approach to forestry could learn a lot from the old times. To me it makes so much sense to manipulate trees into growing what you need and continuously harvesting from the same tree, rather than just blindly cutting everything, finding uses for it after the fact, and then starting over from square one with new seedlings.

[@RustyBrakes]

Best wildlife presenter ever: "Some creature has been digging here. I don't know what creature, and I don't know what for"

[@specialagentgeralt9763]

"Oh... Their paying attention to me, time to leave I think!"

[@lindybeige]

+George Cochrane An alternative was that I faked knowledge: "You see here that a left-pawed badger three days ago dug for eight minutes just after dawn to discover [sniffs] just over an ounce of truffles, before heading off east, limping slighting on it rear right leg."

[@specialagentgeralt9763]

Lindybeige You have to taste it or your not fooling anyone.

[@YonatanZunger]

Fascinating! I live in the US, and grew up in its west, so I was quite surprised to hear the wood this was filmed in described as unusual. But we don't really have woods here, just forests, which indeed tend to be even denser and more ramified than that one.

[@Areanyusernamesleft]

Yonatan Zunger in Midwestern USA there's usually clumps of small woods that I guess could be called "unmanaged", even in or around some suburbs. I grew up around some that looked a lot like this, the only real difference would be the specific species of trees, etc...

[@Juber777]

Evergreen State for the win! :D

[@massaweed420]

Go to Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, etc and most of the forested regions are "unmanaged" as he called them.

[@robpiy91]

Where I grew up (Northeast Germany, South-East Mecklenburg West Pomerania/Northern Brandenburg) there are lots of really old forests. There are trees that are more than 40m in height and probably ~300 years old (mind the good old German Oak). I more or less grew up "in" (close proximity to) these forests and seeing this video immediately made me think "Well, that forest is no way older than 150 years."

[@MT-it9qt]

Olympic National Forest, WA (evergreen state), USA, where I grew up, is full of trees that have fallen to rot and feed the forest, called nurse logs. It is a beautiful place. I had no idea there were entire forests that were actually any different (managed) until I heard about European forests.

[@stewartgames6697]

This is something people don't realize about forests in America too, especially along the Atlantic coastline. You see when Europeans arrived, those forests were at the end stage of species succession (in ecology, succession refers to the order that species re-colonize after a disruption in the landscape. So like after Mt. St. Helens erupted and leveled vast tracts of mountainside, the first species in the succession cycle were ferns, followed by hardy shrubs, and now faster-growing trees like pine), and that end stage was one of the most impressive trees to ever exist - the American Chestnut. A mighty relative of the beech, the American Chestnut grew nearly 100 ft tall, and was the foundation species for the Mid-Atlantic forest belt. It provided the forest ecosystem with two vital food sources - its leaf fall was high in many essential minerals so it fed other plant species and contributed to extremely fertile soil along the Ohio river valley, and its annual nut crop helped fatten many animals just in time for winter. Then came the chestnut blight, and the tree that once defined the region, that was an essential part of American colonial and native culture, that provided the lumber from which a young United States built its first navy, the source of the chestnuts in the "chestnuts roasting on an open fire" song, was killed by a fungus in a few short years. The loss of four billion American chestnut trees destroyed the American lumber industry for decades, and is in no small part responsible for the invention of steel reinforced concrete as an alternative to traditional wood construction. Then there's the fact that it also decimated the brown bear population in the Appalachians since the bears relied on chestnuts for fattening up before hibernation, and the loss of these trees, whose mast was a great food source, directly contributed to the extinction of the Passenger Pigeon, once the most populous bird in North America, as well as the Ivory Billed Woodpecker, which relied on its dead logs for food. The surviving "forests" of today are nothing compared to the primeval world we have destroyed, and the sad part is we don't even realize it since nobody alive has seen what a pristine forest ecosystem is really like.

[@Tetrapoder]

Its even more than that, at the turn of the last century most of new England was either being farmed or clear cut for logging. You can hardly walk through parts of NH for example without running into rock walls sooner or later. Berlin NH was also the logging capital of the world for a short while before WWII

[@ejisyopicus8988]

There hasn't been any people alive to see an untouched forest for recorded history would be more accurate, perhaps the taigas are the least touched but they are one of the simplest and least diverse types that exist, so there are some that fairly quickly reach their last stage quickly despite slow growth. The first records of the amazon forest showed less than half of what was around in the early 1900's is what the first Europeans considered its natural range because of the agricultural peoples that would clear forest and then move on to another section when it no longer became fertile, they are the most fragile type of forest there is and one of two types of forest that are in possible future danger long term and have the most diversity both of plant and animals of all the forest types, they only grew to their later larger sizes when these peoples mostly left there old way of life for a new one with 3 exceptions now reservations, people were surprised when they were given that land that that cleared the entire area just make an attempt at resurrecting their lost cultural ways of their ancestors, but there is no way to know how accurate they are doing this because they are many generations and hundreds of years separated with only claims of oral tradition among people living a completely new life, a little hard to believe but if true, eh, I personally don't care one way or another. The rain-forests, both sub-tropic and tropical can be contrasted with the temperate forests that are so resilient that as timber tonnage from them increases, their growth rate is able to increase in area and more surprisingly density indefinitely with current knowledge of forestry for future needs of timber of all those alive today and probably for the lifetime of many future generation, yet they are in zero danger as many of them are actually protected or even more and better on private land of those that value their natural evolution above the resources they provide or even the private hunting organizations and some individuals that have some of the most impressive forests with deer population near ranch-like size, essentially an unlimited food source and the largest local populations of deer ever recorded. Or by people that balance the three. These forests grow like weeds and the wildlife populations mostly are small in diversity and reproduce relatively quickly and insanely quickly when timbered in a way that provides them the ideal habitat.

[@chrisclifford6457]

No, the forests that colonists found were certainly not primeval. The Indians (the natives) were intelligent and so actively managed the forests. They girdled (killed) tree species that didn't provide things they wanted in order to promote trees that produced what they sought, particularly nuts that they ate or that game species ate. That's why there were so many Chestnut and Oak trees. They also burned forests to create clearings for farming and to promote game species for hunting. One of the best examples of this was the Hempstead Plains on Long Island.

[@thitherword]

No such thing as a climax community.

[@allenatkins2263]

@@thitherword giggity

[@M0Mlight]

Every once in a while I remember about this video and then have to rewatch it. I can't explain it, it's so nice.

[@LaFaveBros]

Very cool video Lindy, and even cooler to see that there's a decent amount of interest in such an obscure topic! I would have loved it if you touched on the social and legal nature of forests in the medieval/early modern period in England. My understanding is that forests were 'nurseries for beggars ad vagrants" as one early moderner put it, and the legal definition of a forest was different that the concept we have of a forest today. William the Conqueror and Henry VII especially cracked down on poaching and extended their royal reach into the forests for game hunting and social control.

[@SwagbobKushpants]

LaFave Bros Have you heard of the high elves?

[@jayaitch3076]

Love you guys. Glad to see you're Lindy fans.

[@Nastyswimmer]

"Forest" in the middle ages meant a place reserved for royalty and nobility to hunt (mainly deer), not a place of trees. In the lowlands, forests would generally be mainly woodland but in the uplands they would be moorland. This concept was introduced to Britain by the Normans who created forests, not by planting trees (remember, forest didn't mean trees in those days) but by removing people's right to hunt and forage there. For example, the New Forest was created in the 11th century - that's why it was called "new" - but the woodland there is thousands of years old (and about a quarter of the New Forest is heathland, also thousands of years old, but this is also forest). There's a good account of the history and legal aspects of the forests in "The History of the Countryside" by Oliver Rackham

[@HisnameisRich]

I must admit I was ready to get my pitchfork out, I thought you were going to say unmanaged was how it was. I was pleasantly relieved I must admit

[@Alex-sv9ny]

+Rich *peasantly

[@Teddypally]

+Rich *releaf'd

[@lancerd4934]

+Rich That's exactly what I was thinking too. Should have had more faith in Lindy

[@ironpirate8]

+Rich Perhaps a war scythe would be a better choice?

[@lancerd4934]

Iron Pirate billhook'd be better, for forests.

[@jacktraveller8290]

Fascinating. This is still one of the most worthwhile subscriptions I've made.

[@uhhhscizo6531]

This is the video that introduced me to this channel

[@mtadams2009]

I own a large amount of land in Ma, US and I do not really mange it. The trees are basically doing whatever they want. When I was younger I used to cut some for firewood but as I have aged that has stopped. My neighbors let their forest free range too. The largest land owner is a logging company and they do manage their land. They clear cut a few acres and then they move on to the next area. In a few years the forest fills in pretty nicely. Its great having the logging company as my neighbor has they never build on their land. They cleared some land across the street from me and now they will never cut again in my life. Its all good.

[@fearandloathing9976]

can I camp on your land?

[@fredjohn3615]

Also live in mass. So much land here was once cultivated in some parts but these forests old as hell with much more foliage and ground cover than in the video

[@honeysucklecat]

New England woods are lovely, but ya gotta see the Redwoods. Just imagine trees 4 times taller (300+ foot tall.)

[@jimmymcjimmyvich9052]

I would not build on land next to you either))

[@mtadams2009]

@@honeysucklecat So true. I have seen my fair share of redwoods and other old growth trees. I have done hikes for that purpose only. They are not only beautiful but majestic. Take care

[@scullyy]

Saruman was also responsible for deforestation back then

[@sambroman543]

TAKE HIM DOWN LEGOLAS

[@fatsamcastle]

middle earth was the Danish (it old Anglo Saxon, I forget) for the British isles

[@hostarius4141]

+fatsamcastle Are you thinking of 'Midgard' in the Germanic languages?

[@zdenek3010]

I didn't really expect to see a video about forests on your channel and as a student of forestry I'm really pleased to see it. All the information in this video is absolutely correct.

[@FenrirFire18]

Yes, its very nice to see that not all people on youtube are simply idiots craving attention with the knowledge of a half-wit...

[@johnfrancisdoe1563]

Zdeněk I very much doubt the correctness of this video. Seems to be too much anachronism, conflating eras and practices separated by millennia. The switch from hunter-gatherers to farmers is traditionally considered as occurring during the stone age, then came the bronze age, then iron age began, then the Roman invasion, early medieval period, Viking invasions, Norman invasion, then more centuries before the medieval period ended. Yet somehow Lindy zig zags all over this long history of England in his arguments.

[@oui2973]

He's like the Bob Ross of Geographical Science

[@dave_h_8742]

Is he like David Bellemy ?

[@Bartolomeus002]

Lindy is talking about England as it was WHOLE Europe... Eastern and Northern Europe population density was sooo low in middle ages there is no way most forests were managed... 1300s England + Walles had about 3milion people... while whole Scandinavia had less than 1,5 mil people while being far more forested and 1 000 000 km2. England+ Wales is 150 000 km2...

[@linkxsc]

Most forest areas in the immediate vicinity of a village or town would have been.

[@contentedbuddha]

Bartek Bierbasz Well thats the Lindy method: taking a general topic, and two minutes in says: ".. in Britain for example..." and the rest of the video is how this topic has played out in Britain. If you're lucky he throws in a tidbit from a commonwealth country.

[@krankarvolund7771]

Well, even in ENgland I have massive doubts on the possibility for 3 million of English to manage forests that covers not the entire country, of course, but a rather great part. Moreover, during nearly all the middle-ages population growth, and so new villages emerge and land is gained by chopping woods and do large cuts in forests. I don't think that peoples could do this if they managed (and so, use) all the forest, I imagine more like islands of civilization (and so managed woods) in the wild territory. Of course, it depends of the period, the early middle-age is not the late and the post Black-death is not the pre black-death ^^ If I take France, my country, in 1350, it was 15 millions of frenchies who lived in the territory, in 1500 it was 18 millions and in 1770, nearly 27 millions. It's a big augmentation, nearly twice men and I think that if the 15 millions of 1350 use all the forest, the 27 millions of 1770 will be in big troubles ^^'

[@combedpubes]

poopsicle

[@hulsfamcalcan]

Apparently Australia had huge forests, until the indigenous people started fires to help them hunt. I'm not sure, but I guess that Australia is a little bit bigger than the UK, and maybe even bigger than Europe!!! theconversation.com/how-aboriginal-burning-changed-australias-climate-4454 I would think that Europeans knew how to start fires as well.

[@Cordman1221]

Hi, Lindybeige. I'm an environmental scientist. One of the things we study is how people interact with their landscapes. In fact, one of the problems that we encounter when trying to restore landscapes to 'ancient' conditions is that,well, we don't know what the ancient landscape was actually like. For example, the American Parks Service tries to recreate landscapes that existed before Columbus arrived in 1492. The only real problem with that, is that these 'wild' landscapes were, in fact, actually very carefully managed by their Native American caretakers. So, the great big open forests of the Northwest, for example, only existed because the Natives regularly set fire to them! There isn't really a landscape on Earth that man hasn't touched and molded in some way, which is why you have to be careful when talking about what 'natural' is.

[@Survivethejive]

6:19 - the "can i be funky too?" mushroom is called a King Alfred's Cake (Daldinia concentrica) because of the medieval story about the Saxon king Alfred burning the peasant's cake while hiding from Vikings.

[@95johndeering]

+Survive the Jive I'm not sure I follow... Why was he burning the peasant's cake?

[@prescott231233]

Survive the Jive yes... but why was the king baking for the peasants?

[@floydlooney6837]

Peasants didn't have ovens. Ovens belonged to the Lords of the Manor, serfs and all that, tied to the Lords land. I'm not sure why the King himself would be doing that, though.

[@Гриб-к1я]

WTF, one of my favorite creators comments and nobody noticed?!?!

[@funkyou9614]

This is giving me flashbacks to my parents walking me through the woods and making me identify everything we can across, I loved it.

[@LorcanMcSharp]

That funky fungi scene was the greatest comedic sketch of the 21st century

[@Shinji72]

It's incredible the amount of interesting info you're bringing us from a walk in the woods.

[@Arkygator]

Here in Sweden, almost half the country is covered in forest. I think we managed to cut down most of it around a hundred years ago because industries were picking up in speed. Then we promptly started replanting it.

[@nitrocharge2404]

I have no clue why I'm even watching this but it's definitely interesting

[@dave_h_8742]

Covid19 restrictions

[@paddy3002]

The storm Lothard in 1999 was used as a springboard for the Swiss to change their forest management practices when a few million trees were knocked down.There is now a resurgence in wildlife. I now have beavers living along the creek close-by which has not been seen in living memory. :)

[@TFrills]

The native Californians used to manage their forests. They didn't leave things as they were; they would help clear space around large oaks and redwoods and would periodically burn grassland, which made it more fertile. They also would frequently pick wild roots, pulling them out of the ground and helping to aerate the soil. Their interaction with the surrounding environment was like a symbiotic relationship and kept the land healthier and the forests free from disease.

[@2004FordRangerXLT]

Same with native oregonians too; they even used to do controlled burns in the forests, which rid the forests of extra fuel. This isn't done anymore, so fuel does nothing but build up over time, and causes serious wildfires in the dry season. If only we managed our forests like we used to.

[@reharp2037]

@@2004FordRangerXLT they’re actually considering doing controlled burns now which is great. I guess all the fires last year gave us a kick in the boot to do what needs to be done.

[@2004FordRangerXLT]

@@reharp2037 that's great to hear! 👏

[@BootsofBlindingSpeed]

Aboriginal (Native Australian) tribes did similarly. Back-burning etc. The first thing that comes to mind is, "fire adaptation is that some species actually require fire for their seeds to sprout. Some plants, such as the lodgepole pine, Eucalyptus, and Banksia, have serotinous cones or fruits that are completely sealed with resin."

[@BootsofBlindingSpeed]

@DANIEL WERNER whoa, cool name. c: (Sounds like an apothecary plant straight outta a fantasy world.)

[@legosoilder3621]

Okay, there's only one thing I have to say, us hunter-gatherers may burn forests and make clearings, but we don't make parking lots and factories...

[@lindybeige]

+TheMadGunther Laziness.

[@ajnode]

+TheMadGunther "Us"? Are you a hunter-gatherer? And you invented internet and computers?!

[@MariahSyn]

+TheMadGunther Parking lots had a clear line of sight before someone decided to deposit automobiles in them. =P

[@legosoilder3621]

Touche...

[@jacoblewis3148]

+TheMadGunther dont categorize yourself as a hunter gatherer and say 'us,' youre on youtube. youre a survivalist not a hunter-gatherer

[@isaacderr2799]

I love Lindy. The fungi bit 😍

[@LyricBent]

This reminds me how lucky I am to live in the Pacific Northwest, close to some very wild, very old forests. Hoom, hom.

[@noleftturnunstoned]

Lots of logging in that area.... and fire.

[@poisoncontrol4488]

simon jones The natives came from the old world same as the Europeans did. They had an open borders policy, look how well that worked out for them.

[@user-iq3xc5gc1f]

simon jones No it doesn't they lost it in a war.

[@coyotejohn3101]

@Darcy Posein that is war. It isn't pretty, it isn't honorable, and there are no rules. I recommend reading Sun Tzu for a start.

[@Imissthefuhrer]

Darcy Posein lol couldn’t win a conventional war??? Absurd, rifles vs now and arrow, tomahawk vs revolver. Who you think comes out on top? Natives used Guerilla tactics and would not face the army honorably.

[@bitfreakazoid]

7:35, don't look now but I think that tree just came alive. Infected by The Colour Out of Space!!!

[@lindybeige]

+bitfreakazoid Sometimes I wonder if the time I spend on special effects is worth it.

[@bitfreakazoid]

lol

[@stefanomorandi7150]

+bitfreakazoid ahaha i wanted to comment the same thing, that tree movement was a bit spooky

[@johnfish3672]

+bitfreakazoid Good call, I haven't noticed that.

[@SpookyBoogie3315]

+bitfreakazoid I am no tree I am an ent!

[@applebusch]

One of the reasons why ferns like the ones you pointed out tend to dominate under mature forests is due to predation by deer. At least here in the US where I live, we have lots of issues with over population of deer. They eat everything palatable in the understory and the only thing left to grow is ferns. It may be something like that is happening in that forest too. The nice thing about all those hunter gatherers is they really kept the ungulate populations down, which we don't do as well today. Thanks Bambi...

[@zacakafroztee]

Brilliant video once again, Lindybeige. I would love to see, if you don't mind doing it, of course, more stories such as the White Headhunter or the battle of Cannae! Such interesting history, and your storytelling is top notch.

[@elliottjohnson9398]

2:13 Fascinating. I love learning new things on this channel

[@MidnightSt]

this was the most surprising and new-info-filled video i've seen in the last month. The kind of surprising that goes "oh, in fact... that makes perfect sense" :)

[@ViolentlyIrrelevant]

This was absolutely delightful and I actually learned something.

[@roman5209]

This channel is an absolute mind bender. Love the content your dry wit is unmatched and the little sketches are so much fun

[@RBermuda1]

1:58 That leaf is wrong

[@demonfromthemud1113]

👎

[@Hobgoblin1975]

+Robert Cardwell That was a great call back, I actually did laugh out loud at that.

[@carlstein9278]

+Robert Cardwell Exactly what i thought :D

[@Tanajura]

+Robert Cardwell I don't get it '-'

[@carlstein9278]

+WR16 watch the videos on ironclad maybe you'll get it then ;)

[@westwindsailer]

its amazing to watch this video , and being a Canadian can walk into untouched forest any time within probably a few minutes. Un managed of course.

[@gavinriley5232]

Hell where I am in America you truck trough the woods every day just to get to and from the road.

[@TheJuggernoob1]

Plenty of unmanaged woods in Minnesota.

[@bluespy4050]

For me, it’s literally just a few seconds

[@connoroleary591]

I live in London, one of the greenest cities in the world. 3 minutes from me is an ancient oak wood, carpeted in Bluebell's every Spring. Some of the Oaks are 800 years old.

[@csweezey18]

All I have to do to reach untouched forest is walk out my backdoor. After all, I live in an untouched forest. Well, minus the house and driveway, that is. I mean, it's not like I live under a fallen tree in the middle of a National Forest with the closest humans being more than 14 miles away or anything! Hahaha...

[@havareriksen3395]

Unmanaged forests? Are there no ents to be shephards of the trees? :-D

[@Dustinclayton1]

Just to go full nerd... The ents actually preferred a wild unkempt look to the forest, as evidenced by the dense, overgrown, nearly claustrophobic feel of Fangorn Forest when Merry and Pippin first entered it. According to Treebeard, it was the ent-wives who preferred the feel and look of a managed landscape: Orchards, tended woodlands, and fields.

[@42ouncesofPAIN]

Why would female ents want feilds? That means all the trees got killed!

[@kyle857]

42Ounces They didn't want fields. They wanted a managed Forrest/garden.

[@isaaccharlton3114]

Not since they lost the ent wives.

[@Forthepaycheck88]

They're there. They're just taking a REAL long time to do anything about it.

[@lilab151]

I have never been so educated and entertained by one video. I want more, hell yeah

[@ASMRWildianne]

In eastern Europe almost all woods are not managed or only partially managed. If a tree falls there, you generally leave it on the spot. But we have such thing as a forestry engineer or keeper who notices for example if the trees are attacked by insects to an extent that's beyond repair or if the deer population is starving during winter, and deal with the matters. Deer, bores and so on are actually extra fed during winter especially in areas where hunting is also permitted (hunting is necessary, since natural predation is not always sufficient to keep populations under control - and even so this wildlife is coming in contact with people's settlements very often. There are such things as 'virgin forests' where no man intervention is permitted. Actually there are still patches of forest where no man has ever set foot. I sure hope the situation stays the same in the future, because these areas are at risk from logging companies and so on.

[@tohopes]

*boars

[@ASMRWildianne]

+tohopes yup

[@tohopes]

Dianne Wilder ASMR unless you were talking about being boring.

[@ASMRWildianne]

There is such thing as automatic spelling. Most phones have that.... I should have checked, but I couldn't be bothered, got better things to do than go through every single little word. Get me?

[@tohopes]

Dianne Wilder ASMR automatic spelling sounds pretty high-tech to me.

[@lennysmileyface]

Lloyd's talking to fungus again. He must be a forest nymph or something.

[@Aegox]

Lindy needs to make a funky fungi shirt now.

[@JoshuaDalviken]

+AaronThePaladin Seconded!

[@marrioman13]

and a 'that leaf is wrong' one too

[@aarontheperson6867]

aaron what a horrible name i hate that name and i hate hypocrites

[@Aegox]

Damn son'

[@aarontheperson6867]

lol i have glasses too just realized

[@timj6121]

This feels like I've stumbled across my dad's youtube channel that he's been working on while he said he was at the pub

[@rhysf.505]

7:36 I like how the branch in the back just suddenly decides to move for a moment.

[@Ayestosea]

It was clearly predator bigfoot.

[@anschiver]

Also thought so at first but it's actually just a twig in the foreground

[@reptiliandiplomat5458]

it was an Ent

[@theonewind]

Rhys F. Holy SHIT

[@rabidL3M0NS]

Makes me sad that many places don’t have any old growth Forest left. Whereas here in New Zealand I can just go to the local bush and walk past thousand year old trees.

[@scottndawn]

All yalls trees will be axed in the near future. So enjoy

[@rabidL3M0NS]

@@scottndawn Our native forests are legally protected and are not allowed to be tampered with by humans. 🙂🇳🇿

[@spacebat3657]

New Zealand is a cool place

[@Deadbeatcow]

@@scottndawn lol by who, they're legally protected and we have purpose built forestry reserves specifically for lumber which are all replanted every time one is cut down but you're just a contrarian anyway, I'm wasting my time

[@cathdodd5072]

@@Deadbeatcow I hope so. As long as we keep listening past the politicians' double-speak and listen to those who speak for our forests (rather than for their own interests) we should be OK. We should never take the beautiful Bush we have for granted though.

[@michaelharder9737]

Your 'funky fungi' bit made me wonder if I had eaten some funky fungi.

[@macbain59]

+Michael Harder it made me think he was high as fuck haha

[@luddity]

Some of that fungi was edible, like that chicken of the woods.

[@montobo_beerus]

It made me wonder if i was a funky fungi

[@horrido666]

Its very easy to differentiate an untouched forest from one in which people gather firewood. In remote areas the amount of deadfall makes it impossible to travel without climbing over huge piles of deadwood every 10 feet. The arrowhead of Minnesota is like this. There is a multi million acre wilderness area called the BWCA (Boundary Waters Canoe Area), where you can penetrate deep into the northwoods. If you were forced to walk out, you would make about 2 miles per day - its that dense.

[@raichugs3544]

Lindybeige on nature. Can't be the only one thinking "more of this please"

[@sweetsour6783]

I always wondered why some trees looked so weird. Thank you, Lindybeige, for clearing it up for me. I've seen 'pollarded' trees many times and had no idea what they were.

[@crex-pd1vv]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

[@dundrawir8333]

Well pollarding is very common today in Flanders and parts of the Netherlands. Those pictures are taken there I think. We call them Knotwilgen, cutting off the branches or ’pollarding’ is knotten in Dutch.

[@wd940]

It's 3:20am What am i doing

[@lilbun444]

Will Dawson what a weird coincidence. Saw ure comment at the exact same time

[@mattk6719]

Shrooming to funky fungi?

[@NickRoman]

3:28am for me

[@vermillionj537]

how did I get here, and what is with all the would wood

[@Koivisto147]

learnin bout a wood

[@darkersouls1155]

Everytime I'm at a party - 2:39

[@deepsouthredneck1]

Native Americans in the Eastern US with stone tools didn't even have forests like this. They burned out the underbrush yearly so to make traveling and hunting much easier as well as clearing large sections of forests entirely especially after being introduced to iron. The Myth that more primitive humans were at harmony with nature is nonsense, they didn't like the idea of getting ambushed by wolves anymore than we do. Edit: and you just said the exact same thing right after I posted this lol.

[@muskwatch]

+dreyrugr - I would say you can be at harmony with something while cutting down and manipulating it :P

[@wildcommando117]

um I live in what was Acadia (nova scotia) and we have thousands of forests that are unmanaged. The scale of north America prevented natives from doing anything on the scale you're suggesting

[@TheCoffeehound]

+dreyrugr Interesting note: When the Lewis and Clark expedition got into the lodge pole pine forests in what was to become western Montana and northern Idaho, they had an very hard time finding enough game to sustain themselves due to how close together the trees grew. The trees grew so closely together that the hunting parties could barely make their way through the woods.

[@deepsouthredneck1]

+dreyrugr I'm talking about the civilized tribes and I'm not saying that they cleared off land to the extent of Europeans.

[@Grimy_Gypsy420]

by far the most interesting personality I've seen, love your videos.

[@raccoononymous]

I reached climax vegetation when I saw this in my subscriptions.

[@gamiezion]

+Space Jew could i per chance you for a bushel of it?

[@DarkLordOfSweden]

can I burn you to make space for farming?

[@NavidIsANoob]

+Space Jew Sounds like you went completely limp.

[@gewreid5946]

Funky funghi! I love this video. Informative and funny at the same time. And its about woods. I love woods.

[@YahsNavaGirl]

I grew up in the Ozark Mountains where it would be really weird to see managed woods. I am sure there were some places that were managed, but mostly it was really thick underbrush that is hard to walk in, so you had to find deer trails to follow.

[@onebritishboi9892]

Had to come back and watch some classics, Good old lindy, still as passionate today as he was back in 2016 .

[@whiplash8277]

This is the way most forests are in the US, even in national forests. From the Atlantic to the Mississippi Valley are sq. miles of forest heavy with undergrowth, downed timber and thick with vegetation. Even in many suburban neighborhoods one can find a multiple acre patch of woods that's completely overgrown and nearly impassable without blazing a trail.

[@macaroon147]

@Lol Why no, probably just cause it's not the size of a tea cup.

[@mikehunt4607]

@Lol Why yeah okay but what about the indians

[@mikehunt4607]

@Lol Why And size does matter you sperg. North America is fucking massive.

[@mikehunt4607]

@Lol Why so i take it you have aspergers lol

[@Rowgue51]

And people wonder why there are so many out of control wildfires.

[@danteller8282]

Forests here in the US are rarely managed excepting periodic controlled burns... probably because we have so damned many of them. I remember seeing pictures of European forests as a kid and thinking, "Wow, that's beautiful. But why do they grow so weird?"

[@markw999]

They're almost all managed, believe it or not. Or have been in the recent past. Very little untouched forest in the U.S. Even here in the northwest, most of it has been harvested at least once. And, contrary to popular belief, fire suppression is actually a form of management. "Natural" is letting the woods burn down.

[@shawnbadanjek9561]

The indigenous indians managed the forests tremendously as well. They control burned the undergrowth and cut back foliage so it was easy and a pleasure to walk through the forest with a nice shade roof way above their heads.

[@junkmansobbligato]

KZbin knows me better than I know myself, thank you recommendations

[@markjackson3851]

The small diggings and the pillaged wasps nest are typical signs of a Badger foraging.

[@mountopia77]

0:37 "Man chopped down the forest". Thanks for clearing that up.

[@bendover9862]

This guy is so likable, and funny.

[@Dronston]

Interesting, a few things about woods I never realized. Also that the moors are a man made landscape was new to me. Good video!

[@indeed7289]

+Dronston yeah but its not exactly a positive thing to celebrate for example Australia was once a very dense wet rain forest but the aboriginals kept burning down all the forests and over time HUGE patches of the country never recovered and it became what we know today it even changed the global climate not just Australia

[@Dronston]

+indeed I never said these facts should be celebrated ;) But you are right, mankind did some serious damage even in ancient times which affect us today. But, in their defense, they didn't know any better about long term and climate effects. They were simply struggling to survive and made the most out of their environment so they could to feed their families and communities. In the present day we don't have this excuse anymore (but keep abusing earth anyway) which makes us worse than archaic people.

[@C.O._Jones]

Your videos are always so very interesting and fun! You have such a wonderful sense of humor and a wealth of esoteric knowledge.

[@KalteGeist]

Oh please, everyone knows Britain was a forest until Saruman came with his Uruk hai.

[@NileRiverification]

+KalteGeist the funny thing about this comment is that tolkein took alot of inspiration from old english peoples, languages, and legends. so for all I know, there could be a historical inspiration for the uruk hai.

[@Mr47steam]

+KalteGeist a wizard should know better!

[@strigonshitposting793]

Now I’m imagining a deer being shot and just out of nowhere saying “Oh dear, I seem to have been shot by a hunter-gatherer.”

[@massaweed420]

This whole idea of a "managed" forest is strange to me. I'm from the US, in the Rocky Mountains, and almost all our forests look like the one Lindy is standing in. Granted, the forested areas in Colorado and Wyoming could very likely cover the entirety of England's surface, so a bit harder to manage that amount of forest.

[@TheMistyBlueLounge]

Lol that's what I was thinking, I'm in Newfoundland and it is too vast and sparsely populated to be managed. The forests around here generally have hundreds of years worth of dead-fall to navigate around, with short summers and very few forest fires even nature has a hard time managing! It's really surreal being in such old and undisturbed surroundings at times... I'm gonna miss it here :(

[@jaroslavsvaha6065]

Managed forests are very common in Europe, at least central parts. People have been using wood here for thousands of years. American natives didn't use nearly as much wood, and by the time European colonization happened, they were already using stone and iron and coal more, so I guess there was never any need for large scale cultivation in most parts of US.

[@transrightspanda]

Thing is in the UK there's no such thing as 'the wild' or 'the countryside'. Everything is private land, everything is owned by someone. A lot of woodlands etc are owned by local councils, who keep them neat, tidy, managed as they're popular dog walking spots etc. Unfortunately the UK is one of the most under-wooded countries in the world. We practically deforested the entire island building Ships of the Line and furniture. What little "forests" we have left are little more than tiny woodlands with motorways going through them. Sad.

[@kamilpotato3764]

@@transrightspanda I love look of English countryside by hate walking there(especially south). Fences, barbwire, private keep out everywhere. I can't even walk along many rivers because of private property. how the hell you can deny access to river for people. It's different where I grew up. Surely it's someones filed, pasture bordering river or lake. But no one threatens you with police because you having a walk there. UK is still country of feudalism. Tiny percentage of population owns most of the land :(

[@ryanblob3105]

Natural consequence of a densely populated island. Although it differs based on area, national parks have a lot of open land, whereas some areas which look enclosed can actually be accessed due to right of way laws. The situation is much better in Scotland, the public are allowed access almost anywhere so long as they act responsibly. Alongside that a forest being "managed" isn't necessarily a bad thing if done properly, since it helps prevent the spread of diseases and invasive species. But yeah, the UK ought to plant more trees, they're good for the soul.

[@bigfatherent2656]

It still blows my mind how some ppl live their whole life not learning. Great job. Keep it up