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Күн бұрын

If you haven’t noticed, Canada is on fire. Not all of it, but more of Canada has burned this year than any other on record. So it’s climate change, right? Partly, but forests actually used to catch fire like this all the time.
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@jacobr4166
@jacobr4166 Жыл бұрын
I was always told growing up that the fire season was part of the life cycle for new pine growth.
@TheUberjammer
@TheUberjammer Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. As I understand it, the issue is that these fires are far hotter than in times when controlled burns were done, or when there would be natural fires (yes, fire can be hotter than 'other' fire...). Many seeds have a thick surface, meant to help them survive fires. While I'm in the PNW so I'm more familiar with the opposite (seeds that need a cold period or a prolonged "monsoon" (so to speak) - themselves similar problems, since if we lose consistent winters, there will be few native seeds naturally germinating) there are seeds in dry climates that require fire to produce new plants. These new fires are so hot that those seeds are just annihilated, which leads to no new growth in burnt areas, and that can be a serious problem. If you google the words "Hotter, faster, more destructive: wildfire’s new reality - CBC", you'll find a detailed radio broadcast on the subject, and why this idiot on the video is basically just using misleading data to fan the flames of climate change denial. Oof. Pun points +1 for me.
@Alex-fm5ke
@Alex-fm5ke Жыл бұрын
They are but they’re happening earlier and the wildfire season is longer now due to higher temperatures.
@ryanradcliffe9756
@ryanradcliffe9756 Жыл бұрын
Are you dumb, the majority of these fires are man made
@Perroden
@Perroden Жыл бұрын
​@@TheUberjammerlol "if you just check my biased news report" no I'll choose fact thank you.
@Perroden
@Perroden Жыл бұрын
​@@Alex-fm5kewhat higher temperature? Lol stop believing everything you told by the talking heads on tv.
@central3425
@central3425 Жыл бұрын
Another fact that often gets overlooked is that we've only been keeping detailed records on this for about 150 years and yet the media keeps using the term unprecedented. Our detailed records are a fraction of total time of this continent.
@petemclovins9166
@petemclovins9166 Жыл бұрын
@central3425... you're slightly mistaken... it's 150 years worth of climate data in total, but only the last 60 years is considered accurate enough to be used to measure the current rate of climate change... a mere 60 years, that's it.
@johnatkinson7126
@johnatkinson7126 Жыл бұрын
​@@petemclovins9166why what's changed since 1709 when the thermometer was invented that's changed in measuring atmospheric temperature
@johnatkinson7126
@johnatkinson7126 Жыл бұрын
Because they would have to include things like the medieval warming period and the little ice age and that blows up their agenda
@oneup12
@oneup12 Жыл бұрын
Same with climate change 😅
@scottttym
@scottttym Жыл бұрын
There are only detailed records from about 50 years ago. There were not detailed records anywhere rural 150 years ago.
@jacksongraydon2503
@jacksongraydon2503 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that the interruption of the fire cycle has caused an increase in fuel growing in rhe forests, causing the new fires to be more devastating.
@taylormit
@taylormit Жыл бұрын
Thank you! As part of my history degree in university I took a course on the history of fire. The majority of the course extensively examined fire management practices across the world through history and the prof was adamant that forest fires would continue to increase because of mismanagement. Now people who aren’t experts in anything just blame everything on climate.
@userJohnSmith
@userJohnSmith Жыл бұрын
It's both. In Colorado we've been seeing dryer and dryer conditions more and more often for several decades. It's made it much much more common for areas that are well managed to burn out of control. It's new in Canada but it's old hat here.
@matthewsalmon2013
@matthewsalmon2013 Жыл бұрын
Could fire suppression be the primary cause of the increasing heat and dryness of the mountain west? Smoke might have provided the albedo to stop the sun baking this region so hard in the summer, and the sun bake would increase evaporation too.
@userJohnSmith
@userJohnSmith Жыл бұрын
@@matthewsalmon2013 Not likely. Our water comes from the oceans. Particles on the air making it hotter works keep things first l drier. It's certainly been that way during big fire years.
@willskol
@willskol Жыл бұрын
When environmentalists stopped the logging industry things went from bad to worse. The forest service used to mark the dead and dying trees and if the loggers wanted to cut them, they had to agree to clean the area around the trees they cut. That kept fuel loads down and slowed fires from spreading and saved more trees than now just burn up.
@cmc5394oparva
@cmc5394oparva Жыл бұрын
@@userJohnSmith No, in Colorado it hasn't been for "several decades," it's been for about two decades at the most. Pull up Boulder's monthly precipitation records from NOAA, for example--the 1900s weren't any wetter than the 2010s. The 1990s were the wettest decade in the last 100 years. Colorado is in a naturally arid region, and dry conditions are the norm. Any "drought" is just a return to the mean.
@brucefread3014
@brucefread3014 Жыл бұрын
There's an old saying about forests: Cut the trees or they burn.
@brucefread3014
@brucefread3014 Жыл бұрын
In 1961 a crew of us were cutting wood in the forest in Ontario. Deer and wolves were running past us not bothering with us and the noisy chain saws. There were running from one of the many forest fires that year.
@michaelpjeffries1521
@michaelpjeffries1521 Жыл бұрын
The aftermath of hurricane hazel no doubt.
@colehara
@colehara Жыл бұрын
But...but..... Justin Trudeau said.....
@LuckyLucy451
@LuckyLucy451 Жыл бұрын
Could blame it on the hot air he exudes?
@blingbling574
@blingbling574 Жыл бұрын
Calling him a hemorrhoid is insulting hemorrhoids.
@erictremblay6867
@erictremblay6867 Жыл бұрын
A guy just told you that fire were bigger when we did not put them out and for some reason Justin Trudeau is to blame?
@liquidgal9867
@liquidgal9867 Жыл бұрын
​@@erictremblay6867cant take a joke! Party pooper!
@KyleRoberts-fj7fj
@KyleRoberts-fj7fj Жыл бұрын
@@erictremblay6867 When he's watched Alberta burn a few times and left it to burn out of his hate for that province ya we blame him for alot little lone being the worst thing to happen to our country ever thanks for coming out !
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr Жыл бұрын
Worse yet, they wait until the height of fire season to do prescribed burns, which inevitably get away. F.g geniuses. SMFH.
@sigmatau7
@sigmatau7 Жыл бұрын
Should really get those out of the way in the winter. SMFH
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr Жыл бұрын
@@sigmatau7 Where you can, yes winter is obviously the best option: I was specifically taking about the prescribed burn in Banff, where the Brewster family lost all their parade equipment when it got away. I don't think you can do a prescribed burn in the winter there, the snow gets pretty deep there, but what you DON'T DO is wait until the HEIGHT OF FIRE SEASON!!
@schrempskynate8944
@schrempskynate8944 Жыл бұрын
Fort Mac was going to do a prescribed burn but the envirotards protested and stood in the way of the firetrucks and bulldozers. Then look what happened. Too bad the CBC didn't catch that little tidbit in their report .
@friedawells6860
@friedawells6860 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a longer version of this video! I feel the topic needs a bit more detailed explanation.
@-LightningRod-
@-LightningRod- Жыл бұрын
no kidding,... i call BS
@anitavirginillo
@anitavirginillo Жыл бұрын
@@-LightningRod- yep, just consider the source
@-LightningRod-
@-LightningRod- Жыл бұрын
@@anitavirginillo Sorry? Consider the source of what? do you even understand how big 13 MILLION hectares is?
@markthompson6440
@markthompson6440 Жыл бұрын
Thx for actually telling people the truth
@timolheiser7874
@timolheiser7874 Жыл бұрын
We have become so good at putting out the fires, that our forests have become old growth, and fire is the natural way to germinate pine cones and release the seeds of the cones. Fire rates were higher in the 1930's.
@theoriginalbeanboy
@theoriginalbeanboy Жыл бұрын
fires allow for the germination of seeds, and prevent a whole lot of certain invasive species from surviving. for instance, the japanese spruce beetle is all over the place in BC right now, but because we have not let the fires take their course and burn, they can thrive, and are wiping out trees left and right.
@patrickkelly1590
@patrickkelly1590 Жыл бұрын
There is a difference between control burns and forest or wild fires. Control burns help native plants, giving them a better chance against invasives. Wild fires are so hot that they burn the seed bank in the ground, causing nothing to grow. There is a better way to explain this, but this was the best and shortest way I could think of.
@maxaudet5177
@maxaudet5177 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much, forest fires do help to a point, but not on the scale we're seeing right now, that is just destructive. We're at over 8.2 million acres burnt this year, that's bigger that entire countries, not "natural"
@KittyChanU2
@KittyChanU2 Жыл бұрын
Fires have the interesting ability to start 200 ft off a road at regular intervals. Lighting is evolving somehow.
@alpharaptor7510
@alpharaptor7510 Жыл бұрын
Bush fires are apart of nature around the world. I still remember the huge fire we had here in Australia in 2019/2020
@ct2586
@ct2586 Жыл бұрын
Weren't dozens of people arrested In connection to starting those Australian fires in 2019?
@_permanence
@_permanence Жыл бұрын
🥴
@SeraphsWitness
@SeraphsWitness Жыл бұрын
Like all climate conversations, it really depends what you consider "normal". From there, you can make the data say whatever you want it to say.
@rocketmonty9916
@rocketmonty9916 Жыл бұрын
Yup, it's what governments and media have done for a long time now as fearful people are easier to control
@jesseknox9322
@jesseknox9322 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Habitat manager and we use prescribed fire all the time to promote healthy oak timbers and rejuvenate our prairies. Fire is part of the N. American landscape and a lot of our species depend on fire. Without it we have millions of acres of invasive species and stagnant timber which effects turkey, quail, grouse, woodcock the list can go on
@maxaudet5177
@maxaudet5177 Жыл бұрын
Yes you are right, but wildfires on the scale we see now aren't normal or good
@markboyles8019
@markboyles8019 Жыл бұрын
Well, you lost me at "partly". I grew up around an aviation company that made at least 50% of their income fighting forest fires every... single... year. I never saw my dad summers, he was flying fire bombers all summer. New England had a New York moment in 1780 due to forest fires and no one was driving SUVs. Government forest management ineptitude is responsible for any increase in fire activity. But let's get the government to "fix climate change". For fuck sake.
@williamscookies78
@williamscookies78 Жыл бұрын
Nothing another billion to ukraine can't fix
@pedrolopes3542
@pedrolopes3542 Жыл бұрын
You are lacking the sense of causality... But hey, don't let the door hit your behind, move to ruzia.
@stellviahohenheim
@stellviahohenheim Жыл бұрын
​@@pedrolopes3542and you're lacking common sense if the government supports Ukraine so everybody that hates the government must be a Russian supporter?
@Superabound2
@Superabound2 Жыл бұрын
​@@pedrolopes3542explain why Ukraine is the human trafficking capital of the world
@doroparker1702
@doroparker1702 Жыл бұрын
😂 Great, I love your sense of humor. All our problems will indeed disappear as soon as our money disappears in Ukraine.
@jamesgziegler4133
@jamesgziegler4133 Жыл бұрын
@xNevikKx
@xNevikKx Жыл бұрын
History Guy did a whole video on the black summer of 1780. People thought the world was ending, turns out it was most likely forest fires.
@lucykelly7152
@lucykelly7152 Жыл бұрын
I heard that extinct and rare animals, which used to be plentiful, used to graze and browse the vegetation away, reducing the intensity of fires. There was also more ancient forest, which apparently doesn't burn so much. These days we have a lot of replanted forests, which apparently burn more easily.
@freedomnews7922
@freedomnews7922 Жыл бұрын
No partly about it, this has nothing to do with "climate change"
@sigmatau7
@sigmatau7 Жыл бұрын
You have anything to back that claim?
@heatherjones9773
@heatherjones9773 Жыл бұрын
​@@sigmatau7arson arrests!
@blingbling574
@blingbling574 Жыл бұрын
He has to support his carbon tax narrative. He’s a politician.
@camerons6028
@camerons6028 Жыл бұрын
​@sigmatau7 pine trees have pine cones. Pine trees evolved so that their seeds (the pine cones) open up during a fire so that new trees can grow. Trees need the fire to make new trees. Trust the science.
@sigmatau7
@sigmatau7 Жыл бұрын
@@camerons6028 that sounds plausible, and I understand that wildfires are part of the natural cycle of forests. I don’t know how that backs up the claim that climate change has no affect on wildfires. Which I would trust the scientific consensus on.
@kennethbrown7627
@kennethbrown7627 Жыл бұрын
When hired perpetrators throw Molotov cocktails in the forest, what do you think is going to happen?
@debbieoakes8845
@debbieoakes8845 Жыл бұрын
Thank the Government that send water trucks with no water in them.
@fbsfgr
@fbsfgr Жыл бұрын
Liar
@AtteroDominatus
@AtteroDominatus Жыл бұрын
Shut up and pay big daddy more money to make the bad global warming go away. Don't think though, you may remember a thing called photosynthesis.
@fringeminority7746
@fringeminority7746 Жыл бұрын
​@@fbsfgrLOL yeah. They weren't empty, they just never existed!
@gandalfstormcrow8439
@gandalfstormcrow8439 6 ай бұрын
Stop preventing logging companies from forest management. In California it's illegal to pick up dead leaves off your lawn.
@cdickenson82
@cdickenson82 Жыл бұрын
We stopped letting milder fires take out deadfall that has built up because fire suppression has become so effective. Plus people aren't using wood near as much as a heat source so even more trees burn than naturally.
@yosecretsquirrel
@yosecretsquirrel Жыл бұрын
I used to subscribe to the idea that Forest management was a bad Idea. The argument was that prevent or surpressing fires allowed debris to accumulate on the forest floor creating conditions for super sized fires. While that is partially true, what I learned is that we dont actually have the ability to avoid forest fires nor can we effeçtively fight fires. The best we can hope to do is reduce the damage of inhabited areas.
@chris.3711
@chris.3711 Жыл бұрын
We have gone from high frequency, low intensity fires to high frequency high intensity fire because of forrest mismanagement.
@squangan
@squangan Жыл бұрын
In northern Canada I remember my family talking about the bad forest fire years of 1958 and 1969 before I was around. Then I experienced the bad fire years of 1983, 1995, and 2004 myself. I just shake my head when everything today is phrased as being either ‘New’, ‘Historic’ or ‘Unprecedented’ by media or people who are driving an agenda.
@kodakomp
@kodakomp Жыл бұрын
In the early fall my tribe would start controlled burns and migrate to the central valley for the winter to keep the forest healthy.
@DeltaDanner
@DeltaDanner Жыл бұрын
In the US we had a terrible fire in 1910 that lead to new fire suppression policies. 100+ years later we have a lot of fuel built up and when it ignites we get these mega fires that have been all over the news.
@ThisTall
@ThisTall Жыл бұрын
Forrest stewardship and fuel removal would cost a fraction of what firefighting does.
@puertoropelu2257
@puertoropelu2257 Жыл бұрын
I love how they talk about this but don’t talk about the arsonists who are constantly being arrested in areas that the wild fires begin and it’s in multiple states like california, Oregon, Idaho, even in Canada just recently. It takes a couple searches to find them online.
@benbar6523
@benbar6523 Жыл бұрын
So.... we are engaging in fire suppression (thereby decreasing wildfires) and now that wildfires are increasing its normal? even though we are still engaging in fire suppression? Your logic is broken
@johnnyrocket9372
@johnnyrocket9372 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to include the reason this is happening. For years governments took steps to actively counter the causes of wildfires for decades. Now through poor management, both fiscal and policy wise, those actions have stopped being done.
@boodashaka2841
@boodashaka2841 Жыл бұрын
Also the forests that far north do not have fire adaptations such as eucalyptus or southern pinus species and they are not meant to have a regular fire season like you see in Aussie and other 'dry' forest areas around the globe
@cherylmerideth5143
@cherylmerideth5143 Жыл бұрын
The forests need those fires to thrive. We are damaging out forests by suppressing them.
@spingebill8551
@spingebill8551 Жыл бұрын
Actually, if it weren’t for firefighting efforts it would probably be much worse than normal. Naturally our forests should be burning to the point where super massive fires shouldn’t be possible because of lack of fuel. Our forests are far more dense and old than they should be.
@yardman111100
@yardman111100 Жыл бұрын
The reason Australia has massive insane firea is because for thousands of years the natives would set control burns in the low ground to hunt but now we let it all thicken up and the fuel is so plentiful that when you have a strong summer wind and dry conditions then hell opens up.
@waynemullally6423
@waynemullally6423 Жыл бұрын
Sure. In the nineteenth century the pioneers burned more trees than they cut down. It helped clear the natives and crops were better in the first few years after the burn. They just didnt keep records on it.
@elbarto2309
@elbarto2309 Жыл бұрын
Im from Oregon and as much as I hated the smoke in my eyes and lungs I also just kinda admired how eerie and different the air looked. Idk if I’m the only one with this thought but it was kinda beautiful. 🤷‍♂️
@natec9420
@natec9420 Жыл бұрын
We also used to burn 95% more undergrowth in the 90s. A forestry consultant told me that. Do the research please.
@robparker3639
@robparker3639 Жыл бұрын
This is basically the only news media in Canada that I still trust.
@tsizzle12345323
@tsizzle12345323 11 ай бұрын
What about the "experts" on msnbc they seem trustworthy
@jaysen2200
@jaysen2200 Жыл бұрын
People are setting fires at an alarming rate .
@mustbeaweful2504
@mustbeaweful2504 Жыл бұрын
Oh that’s so weird.
@Zebula1918
@Zebula1918 Жыл бұрын
it's not the climate that sets forests and islands on fire, it's not bums roasting squirrels around a fire, it's not a cigarette thrown out the car window. wake up
@Pyroteq
@Pyroteq Жыл бұрын
A lot of people are missing context here. It's likely that wild fires in the past were worse because they wouldn't go out until they burned everything in their path or there was rain... But that's not taking into account the enormous amounts of land clearing. The amount of forest burned in the past may have been worse, however there would have been much more of it to burn to begin with and that's on top of all the added greenhouse gases caused by industry. So now you've got fires burning a larger percentage of remaining forests.
@mountainryder3056
@mountainryder3056 Жыл бұрын
It’s in the local US air so we notice and we sympathize with the provinces of Canada
@jnc1771
@jnc1771 Жыл бұрын
If we are living in a time of fire suppression now, then to have these large fires is more alarming, not less. A normal year now, is very limited in fires, a comparison to time in the long distant past is by itself rendered invalid.
@KelBShobra
@KelBShobra Жыл бұрын
I remember on one of my birthdays when i was young i looked outside and thought it was snowing. Turns out it was ash...
@Ben-rd3mg
@Ben-rd3mg Жыл бұрын
This guy really needs to grow a brain and realise how dire the situation is
@off_mah_lawn2074
@off_mah_lawn2074 11 ай бұрын
This is a very frustrating mis-characterization. Yes there were many more fires historically. But there were also old-growth forests, with massive 200ft tall trees that could withstand the fires. We have completely cut down 99% of those trees. So these new forest fires, burn hotter & faster, completely destroy these smaller trees, leaving very few living trees in their wake. They are catastrophic.
@zachweyrauch2988
@zachweyrauch2988 9 ай бұрын
None of this means we shouldnt replace traffic jams with public transit and air travel with trains.
@MMDelta9
@MMDelta9 2 ай бұрын
How do you make public transit/trains work in a country as big and rough as Canada? It works in Europe cause their populated areas are small, close together and ground is largely stable.
@dennispersson9466
@dennispersson9466 Жыл бұрын
In case you haven't noticed, prehistoric people didn't have the same "quality" of ignition sources, that "modern" arsonists have today. Most had to wait for a lightning 🌩️ bolt, or a LOT of stick rubbing!
@El-Comment-8-or
@El-Comment-8-or Жыл бұрын
This guy is not a forest ecologist! Less than 5% of BC is old growth forest, and that is not what is burning now. Yes, fire is part of the natural forest process, and yes fire suppression has interfered with that process. However back in the day of natural wild fire, fires burnt differently. They stopped at wetlands and deciduous forests, and skirted or fingered through older burnt areas. They crawled slowly through the night or died down completely only to flare up again the next afternoon. They would only get big and scary for the one to two hottest and driest weeks of July or August. Now it’s very different. These fires are burning through mostly logged areas, they are raging through wetter deciduous forest types, and skipping through wet lands. Areas that burnt completely 5 years ago are burning again. Night time temperatures are still high, and the dew that would slow fires doesn’t condense over night. This fire season STARTED IN MAY! And will likely continue far further into the fall than it ever did before. This is exactly what was predicted a hundred years ago, and we were warned about it by Ronald Reagan and Margret Thatcher in the 80’s! Once upon a time I was a conservative, when it was based on sound economic and social principles. Now it’s a religion completely divorced from any reality. There is definitely ways our governments could have diminished our vulnerabilities to these fires. The modern policies on how we fight fires are a farce. That is a failing of all governments for over 30 years, not the sole responsibility of one political party. I say this having a family that has spent three generations in the forest service, and as some who is paid as a forest ecologist for a professional opinion. I’ve mapped and gathered data to build the historical record of wildfire in BC. My opinion is not political philosophy it is a result of scientific and academic studies over the last 40 years.
@brutusthebear9050
@brutusthebear9050 Жыл бұрын
Please cite your studies then.
@central3425
@central3425 Жыл бұрын
Are you a time traveler? If not, you have no basis for what you are saying
@El-Comment-8-or
@El-Comment-8-or Жыл бұрын
@@central3425 yeah I am a time traveller, I can look at history, and understand what is going on now, and what is likely in the future. I can also travel to other countries, and see that they are also experiencing unprecedented fires, and from that rule out this being the fault of a woke PM.
@davidheipel2934
@davidheipel2934 Жыл бұрын
Question remains on the table what is man's contribucion to climate-change in a world where climate change is a natural thing. Our primary problem is the spinoff that's the extremist on the left and your woke PM taking advantage of the simple-minded followers. The conservative party may not be what it once was but they do actually have some sanity. The Liberal party which has nothing to do with liberal and has descended into a party of shear madness. Problems with the climate change conversation is the party of madness champion the cause with incredibly destructive non solutions. Not a good solution to end the use of fire and change it to mining in the Earth in unprecedented ways to to create electric energy. Have we forgotten the rage against open-pit mines etc.
@Denozo88
@Denozo88 Жыл бұрын
So I ask is the put out a fire at its source even if its in the middle of nowhere a good thing? As those who remember the Yellowstone fire would love to shove it up your ass. They kept on putting fires out again and agian till the underbrush built up and the entire park burned almost to thr ground. It took almost 40 just to get close to where the forest was when it burned 40 years ago. You should know that some areas are just more prone to fires than others. Cali burns all the time meanwhile east Texas with pine forests everywhere hasn't had a true forest fire in ages.
@StarSwarm.
@StarSwarm. Жыл бұрын
Anyone else think this was some weird Mark Rober episode at the start. Like WTF bro! Lol! 😂
@woswasdenni1914
@woswasdenni1914 11 ай бұрын
adds to another point that heat may CAUSE higher co2 and not the other way around. not only fires but animyl and bacterial acvitivy is also a lot higher when its warmer
@scott-qk8sm
@scott-qk8sm Жыл бұрын
Yup all natural but the media machine doesn't tell you this
@shanebrbich5698
@shanebrbich5698 Жыл бұрын
You fly in a helicopter far north Western Australia there’s always bushfires! It’s a natural cycle! Forest regrowth is amazing!
@richardk3347
@richardk3347 Жыл бұрын
And this could lead into a video about the destructive force tree huggers have been. "Stop using paper grocery bags and everyone will now use plastic bags". What a disaster that turn into.
@OfficerDonuts
@OfficerDonuts Жыл бұрын
Love how the dismal swamo wasn't in there.
@sc4916
@sc4916 Жыл бұрын
In BC no one clear cut the dead pine beetle trees so they just keep burning It’s poor forest management
@joywebster2678
@joywebster2678 Жыл бұрын
I used to live in northern Ontario that was a logging town. Kimberly Clark outbof the USA logged hugexswaths of the bush and forests. Muchbwas pulp and paper milled for toilet tissue kleenex, etc. Then KC hired indigenous folos to tree plant hardwood in the cut zones. So there were rough roadways through, and animaps could move morexeasily, forestry staff could monitor tree pests, znd hunters could access the bush. But since the USA preferred to buy the Amazon cuttings the Canadian loggind stopped. Stopping work done by generations, killing off logging, the pulp mills and all the supporting jobs.
@daniellarson3068
@daniellarson3068 Жыл бұрын
Wishful thinking to think things aren't different than they used to be. Just think. They were called "old growth forests."
@rickyanke9407
@rickyanke9407 Жыл бұрын
Earlier humans had far more outdoor fires, torches, etc that could spread. That continued into and through the 1970s when increased awareness of fires (a huge push by logging barron's) and even through anti smoking education, fewer people were careless about fire and portable fire extinguisher became commonplace and even required. The thought that giant fires that weren't human-related were happening everywhere all the time isn't reality.
@camerons6028
@camerons6028 Жыл бұрын
All those pine cones spreading pine tree seeds in the fire...... trust the science. Lol.
@plantidentificationnewzeal9032
@plantidentificationnewzeal9032 Жыл бұрын
Be careful about inadvertently misinforming people, Certain forests routinely burn down, Whereas others dont and some are fire resistant.
Жыл бұрын
Except these fires occurred at the same time at different places - meaning, someone started them on purpose.
@maximilianrhinestone1024
@maximilianrhinestone1024 Жыл бұрын
if your cats tail catches on fire is this climate change? thats irrelevant!
@earlbentivoglio139
@earlbentivoglio139 Жыл бұрын
Trudeau and crew has spent zero compaired to what they need to spend on Canadian forestry and been told over and over and like Trudeau never does the right thing.
@elusiveshadow5848
@elusiveshadow5848 Жыл бұрын
TARDeau is such a clown, why is he still in power?
@sigmatau7
@sigmatau7 Жыл бұрын
Aren’t fire maintenance budgets generally a provincial thing?
@kimhoffman8595
@kimhoffman8595 Жыл бұрын
There is no way that the BC fire that is bigger than some countries is natural, yes obviously fire happens but this is crazy. What is going on?
@maxaudet5177
@maxaudet5177 Жыл бұрын
Yes it's not natural, my old man's been a fire ranger for decades, he said he's never seen anything like this We're at 8.2 million acres burnt this year. If you think that is normal, you're either ignorant or stupid
@jack6565
@jack6565 Жыл бұрын
In Australia the aboriginal people knew fires where apart of the natural cycle as lightning hit during the dry season. White settlers ignored this natural process and started fighting fires meaning more and more unburnt growth built up causing super fires. Only in the last decade has the Australian govt gone back to aboriginal burn off practices.
@project-unifiedfreepeoples
@project-unifiedfreepeoples Жыл бұрын
I had seen a video where in modern Iraq there are spots in the sands there that they would flip the sand or dirt off the top of the area and there was a flame. I often wonder if these areas aren't lava tubes that are pushed up through cracks in the mantle. Perhaps that is how some areas that have went up in flames.
@tomernest2004
@tomernest2004 Жыл бұрын
I've been trying to tell people this for fifty years.
@grandmaG67
@grandmaG67 Жыл бұрын
We've had the coolest weather in years...if government would actually manage forest's we wouldn't be here.
@andrewwasson6153
@andrewwasson6153 Жыл бұрын
So at best this is misinformation. Yes, we are suppressing fires but you would think that over 75 years, if nothing else was at play, we’d get better at it but in fact the opposite is true. I’ve lived through 60 summer seasons in BC and I remember them going back a good 55 years; my super power is a detailed memory of trivial events. From the late 60’s to the late 70’s I can only recall one bad summer for forest fires where smoke came into Vancouver and that was early 1970’s. In the 80’s I can’t recall a single forest fire season where smoke came into the lower mainland of Vancouver and the surrounding areas. It was the late 90’s where every couple of years BC would become a hazy smoke filled province. Look it up. This is not normal if you look at the last 75 years and with science, technology and engineering being vastly improved in the last 75 years, how is it we are getting worse at fire suppression?
@Perroden
@Perroden Жыл бұрын
No at best it's truth and at worse it's truth. Man made climate change is a myth not backed by science
@anitavirginillo
@anitavirginillo Жыл бұрын
National Post, that's all you need to know.
@jonr1138
@jonr1138 Жыл бұрын
Because it is hotter the forest is drier and more prone to burn. But keep spinning and don’t forget to gas up. Everything will be fine.
@charlescurran1289
@charlescurran1289 Жыл бұрын
In many places fire danger was reduced because indigenous people would comb the forests for firewood removing much of the tinder from the forest floor. These days climate change environmentalists prohibit that and actually make forest fires worse. But they feel oh so morally superior so it’s ok.
@Huzefakhozemasaifee
@Huzefakhozemasaifee Жыл бұрын
Those fire were ok, since majority of the land was forest. Today, forests are small pockets of biodiversity. A single fire today can wipe out species forever. That was not the case pre-records.
@jefffox2010
@jefffox2010 Жыл бұрын
Mother nature just doing her thing like she has for hundreds of years before we got here.
@Jason-dr6se
@Jason-dr6se Жыл бұрын
38 Arrests in Alberta linked to the fires were having.
@rorygillmore6555
@rorygillmore6555 Жыл бұрын
We are part of the circle of life like everything else... Our only mistake is listening to those who think humans should control or be above that circle... and we will be put in our place sooner or later.
@claudermiller
@claudermiller Жыл бұрын
Well then, the climate is definitely worse because even with fire suppression we're having uncontrollable wildfires.
@chrisstrand500
@chrisstrand500 Жыл бұрын
Yep, but plus in those electric cars. Even though that can’t be supported by the electrical grid.
@tylerkinley268
@tylerkinley268 Жыл бұрын
It always makes me laugh when folks act like forest fires were non-existent before pollution.
@maxaudet5177
@maxaudet5177 Жыл бұрын
They were, just not on this scale
@paradisegarden1316
@paradisegarden1316 Жыл бұрын
interesting... where can we find the full video?
@scottekoontz
@scottekoontz Жыл бұрын
No matter the current condition of the forests, the suppression employed or not employed, the thinning or lack of thinning, the ground raking (thanks Trump) or lack of, warmer and dryer means more fires. This is very simple: Are warmer and dryer conditions conducive to more fires? Time's up, because of course they do. AGW is causing more fires and a wider spread regardless of any other parameter.
@teribletomyterrific7894
@teribletomyterrific7894 Жыл бұрын
By the grace of God gentleman what a great job in your fire suppression techniques.
@sheldonhagerman6324
@sheldonhagerman6324 Жыл бұрын
How the hell did the wildlife survive back then?
@Nicolas-Kage
@Nicolas-Kage 11 ай бұрын
Wow a measured answer to this question in Canada. It must be Christmas
@danm8747
@danm8747 Жыл бұрын
It can be good for nature. Native Americans used to do burning to clear undergrowth and kill bugs that can kill you
@dustyhedger380
@dustyhedger380 Жыл бұрын
Propaganda VS Biology , who knew nature has cycles and no arsonists ?
@intractablemaskvpmGy
@intractablemaskvpmGy Жыл бұрын
No we have these fires every year. Before suppression they would be decades apart. Our attempt to control these fires are only making them increase in frequency and destruction. And to those who wail about their "property" being destroyed. If you plan on living in the woods or forest this is your own risk and responsibility to undertake. Everyone else shouldn't be put at risk for you
@Xlaxsauce
@Xlaxsauce Жыл бұрын
Forrest fires I would think would be less common if the dead undergrowth rotted quicker or was cleaned up. dry pine needles catch fire so easily and burn very hot. We always would have a few bags of it as we used it for fire starter rather than making kindling. Camp ground I have gone to my entire life started cleaning up the pine needles to prevent fires from burnign down the park. It is too big of a job to do an entire forest, but key areas as well as making those long clear cut strips with zero vegetation would be great.
@erictremblay6867
@erictremblay6867 Жыл бұрын
Go figure the genius figure out that before we put fire out there was bigger fire.
@Alex-fm5ke
@Alex-fm5ke Жыл бұрын
Wildfire seasons globally are now slightly longer adding to the already massive amounts of co2 we’re putting into the atmosphere. Coupled with deforestation of major carbon sequestrating areas means higher temperatures and the cycle continues
@Perroden
@Perroden Жыл бұрын
None of that is correct. Man made climate change was made up for fear mongering and control. Stop believing everything the magic box tells you.
@maxaudet5177
@maxaudet5177 Жыл бұрын
Hush, you facts might upset them
@larrymccue8097
@larrymccue8097 Жыл бұрын
So the record heat and higher overnight lows are a government oversight? That and record ocean temperatures and glaciers disappearing on mass. Let's not focus on the root problem, let's continue the way we've been living to finish things up.
@thebamabirds8182
@thebamabirds8182 Жыл бұрын
Yup i fought fires in Oregon efforts for prescribed burns in winter was an effort to return to Native American forest practices which would produce better understory berries fruits and break open pine cones that only grow with fire
@robbbenedict
@robbbenedict Жыл бұрын
Are you trying to say the sky isn't falling?
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