I CADDIE FOR A 36 HCP! Beginner golf strategy with

[@thehairygolfer]

Rhys, you have a lot of potential. I would also say there is nothing you can do that we haven't all done before (and still do). Knifes, fats, slices, hooks and duffs. Just watch Dave's channel! The advice I would give is play golf holes backwards, especially with 2 shots a hole. How can you get on a par 4 in 3 and make a nett birdie? If you work out what you want for your third shot, be it a chip from a flat lie all the way to a full wedge then you can work out what you want for your second shot which will dictate what to take off the tee. Believe me when I say the fairway is a huge wide space you can't miss when you have a 5 iron tee shot. And that breeds the confidence. I spent my first 2 years playing golf with nothing bigger than a 3 iron and then I introduced the woods when I felt they would improve my score and not make it worse. I feel the need for a video. Dave, don't give up your day job!

[@ForetoFourGolf]

Great comment mate, tons of valuable advice for all of us…and I don’t expect to be carrying a bag for a living anytime soon 😂

[@thehairygolfer]

@@ForetoFourGolf You did a very brave thing there. I'm not sure I could, I'd just grab the club off the guy and hit it myself! LOL

[@PrestigeDetailingStudio]

Thanks for the advice! I could probably knock the ball around with a 7 iron but I am really confident rith the driver, 8 out of 10 I hit good shots but I might give just irons a go and see what happens!

[@thehairygolfer]

@@PrestigeDetailingStudio Golf Sidekick says hit the shots you know with the clubs you trust. If you're happy with driver then use it.

[@briangray00]

I can easily miss a huge wide open space fairway with a 5 iron. Therein lies a problem.

[@EricRosemusic]

I'm so happy to be watching REAL golf! Every other channel is unrealistic, this is how normal everyday people golf!

[@ForetoFourGolf]

you legend, thank you!

[@ourclarioncall]

How’s he playing now ? I enjoyed watching someone at this handicap as it’s Lyon’s oh where I will be when I start He looks like a strong guy, perhaps a couple of practice swings first could help focus what power to use on the real swing . That’s the main thing that stood out to as a newbie that can’t play 😄 Greetings from Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@AGL23]

Great to see a guy making the same mistakes that I'm making. I also notice that aiming is done 100% wrong! I do the same thing. In my mind, I know where it's going. But the way this guy (and I) position the body, it's forcing the ball where it's aimed at. We need to be aiming the body and the leading edge to where we want it to go. I hope that makes sense. We need to aim better, while hitting it purely. :)

[@gardhavelin8307]

Great vlog! Rhys seems to align his feet quite a bit to right of the target when setting up. Might be worth adjusting 👍🏼 With that swing, your HC will drop in no time 💪🏼

[@ForetoFourGolf]

I think he has had quite a drop since we filmed this!

[@ChiliDippaGolf]

Rhys played really well and he hasn't even played a full year! Way to caddie him up and bring the course knowledge! Great vid Dave!

[@PrestigeDetailingStudio]

Really appreciate the comment! I can feel I'm close to dropping that handicap!

[@ForetoFourGolf]

Thanks mark, I have no doubt he will not be off 36 for long!

[@jamesklapetzky8633]

1ST hole, RHYS should have used 5 or 6 iron for 2ND shot in order to be short of bunker. 2ND hole, he should have moved more towards right tee marker instead of being in the middle. 3RD hole, looked like his body was pointed to the right on hitting tee shot. GREAT job on bunker shot and 1 Putt on last hole. That's a Sand Save and a Bunker Stat for the books.

[@ForetoFourGolf]

Give rhys a subscribe on his channel for being brave enough to go on camera, I think he did great, but then I'm slightly biased 😉

[@bobadkins7377]

Enjoyable video, first I’ve seen from your channel, subscribed.

[@ForetoFourGolf]

You bloody legend Bob, thanks!

[@francismcknight724]

Great video. Nice to see some golf content coming from Australian pros instead of just UK or US. Good guidance and encouragement for Rhys.

[@ForetoFourGolf]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@roncheong4198]

@ 13:16 i'm thinking where the fcuk was this 5 wood on the first hole 2nd shot Rhys? it's a 200m club, you were fine with bunker...

[@ForetoFourGolf]

it's a good point ron, the lie was ok, probably slightly better for a 5 wood tbh. If he had any hesitancy i was gonna have him play 50m short and left, long is no good on that green (as we saw after the bunker shot 😂 )

[@PrestigeDetailingStudio]

Would have blown past the green easy.. it goes more than 200m should have hit 5 iron and layed up left of the bunker..

[@RufusPattersonPodcast]

I learned so much about my play style watching this. Awesome video!

[@ForetoFourGolf]

Legend! Cheers mate!

[@JonesyGolf]

Good video mate. Rhys is a sound guy. You can tell he loves golf already. He is hooked

[@ForetoFourGolf]

Thanks mate! Yeah he is super keen! And doesn’t have years of mental scar tissue yet 😂

[@pedrosolermartinez6273]

Love it!, that’s the kind of golf shots and problems I identify myself more with. Love the course, pitty the greens where sanded

[@ForetoFourGolf]

appreciate that!

[@thebackyardgolfer7010]

Great for a person who recently started, nice tips, he'll soon lower his handicap for sure.

[@ForetoFourGolf]

Cheer Erich, and yeah he won’t be getting two shots a hole for long!

[@thebackyardgolfer7010]

@@ForetoFourGolf that was so funny!! It’s the bunker going to be a problem??? No, no …. 5 minutes later… 😂

[@PrestigeDetailingStudio]

@@thebackyardgolfer7010 technically the bunker wasn't the problem.. it was that thick rough 😉

[@DoubleBogeyBass]

Green side bunker with your second shot on a par 5 and walk away with a triple, man that brings back some bad memories 🤣 we've all been there. And punched greens are the absolute worst!!

[@ForetoFourGolf]

I know right! That bunker shot was his tee shot effectively! I don’t think he is going to have the luxury of two shots everywhere for very long…

[@PrestigeDetailingStudio]

Haha 50/50 I'll get out of the bunker decently.. this was not one of those times! Definitely need to work on that short game

[@DoubleBogeyBass]

@@PrestigeDetailingStudio Short game is where it’s at for sure! Welcome to the most addicting sport 🤣.

[@MilesMartinGolf]

Sorry I'm late lol. This is a cool video. I wonder what I would shoot if I had someone to talk me out of all my crazy ideas.

[@ForetoFourGolf]

Thanks mate, and I have a pro doing the same for me in a video coming soon!

[@golfnut6129]

I think, just watching this short video, that he could do with playing with one of the old boys that aren’t worried about distance and what club they hit….it’s all about course management, putting the ball in the right place and ultimately the score you write down on the card….

[@ForetoFourGolf]

+Golfnut 612 great point! I intentionally didn’t play these holes so there was no competition of any kind, but what you described is a humbling experience!

[@johnnydev9318]

Just came across this channel - nice to see content based here in the Perth metro area. Sun City looks nice - seems that you pay roughly the same for 9 holes there as we do for 18 holes where I play at Hillview course in Maida Vale. But in terms of course quality, I guess you get what you pay for and SC would be appreciably better.

[@ForetoFourGolf]

Thanks for watching! Hillview is in my list to play, I’ve not been out there yet!

[@Parrott65]

Why on earth did you allow him to hit his second shot on a par 5 to get into a bunker, knowing full well he had two shots to get there and he’s a 36 HCP which most likely can’t play bunker shots well?

[@ForetoFourGolf]

I can't recall if it made it to the edit, but I certainly did have this conversation with Rhys. My advice was to take a mid iron, short left of the green, and that the risk in going for the green was he would end up in the bunker. He was very confident in the shot, so I let it slide...I really should have put my foot down but sometimes we have to learn from experience!

[@Parrott65]

@@ForetoFourGolf I did notice you later were more adamant about what he was doing. I was just shocked on the first hole, but you helped him much more later. Good job and great video

[@ForetoFourGolf]

Thanks mate! Yeah partly it was a case of he was more likely to listen after a blow up 😂

[@oldmangolf4209]

Great vlog mate. I’d love to have a caddie for a round.

[@ForetoFourGolf]

Thanks mate! I'll do you a deal, you convince Mark McGowan to let us be in the same state and you will have yourself a caddie!

[@UpsandDownsGolf]

this guy a member of our club? hes gunna win all the comps with a swing like that

[@ForetoFourGolf]

Haha fortunately for us he is a member at Melville glades! And yeah, I suspect that handicap will tumble with a bit of work on the short game and a tweak in mindset!

[@PrestigeDetailingStudio]

I'll have to come up for a comp day sometime soon! Cheers for the compliment Tommy!

[@smaganas]

Mmmm that’s a nice range lol

[@Mowers11]

Why no practice swing

[@LetsPlayGolf]

Good effort guys good video

[@ForetoFourGolf]

thanks mate, i'll have to get down to secret harbour one day!

[@LetsPlayGolf]

@@ForetoFourGolf yes that would be fun I’m sure Rhys would be up for another game too :)

[@golfnut6129]

I wear some bright colours on the course but thar push trolley 😬🤦‍♂️

[@ForetoFourGolf]

Ah man, there was a bit I had to cut out for time where Rhys was claiming it was his partners…needless to say I didn’t believe him 😂

[@PrestigeDetailingStudio]

I bought it for my misses, but I kind of like it! Can't be mistaken if there's someone in front!

[@Doony3000]

12:48 Stroking what?

[@iceblade569]

Did the "caddy" never notice where he is aiming with his feet off the tee box? He tells him to align to something, but he always aims well right of that, I think it would save him so many shots and recoveries if he was told he is aiming to much to the right.

[@ForetoFourGolf]

Perhaps so, but I’m not a coach, it was the first time I’d seen Rhys play so I didn’t really have a handle on his swing. Also if we are being really picky, caddies aren’t allowed to correct alignment…that’s why they can’t stand behind a player while they are hitting

[@iceblade569]

@@ForetoFourGolf I know rule 10 .2b(4), but this was not a competitive match. And the tone of the video seemed to be helping this guy, not coaching, but helping like a caddie does, don't have to stand behind someone to see he is hitting it straight right and not fading it. So caddie can after the shot say to his player "maybe check your alignment or ball placement, shot went straight there". Mostly high handicappers fade or slice, this guy hits it straight where he is aiming, that's rare for a 36hcp. If he sorts his aiming he'll go down in handicap extremely fast.

[@ForetoFourGolf]

I’ll concede I was a little hasty in reply, I can’t recall but I likely said something off camera to Rhys, or maybe even I didn’t pick it up, equally probable. I do know that in the time that has passed since we filmed this his handicap has unsurprisingly dropped, so you were dead right there!

[@iceblade569]

@@ForetoFourGolf all good mate, we all learn everyday, the day we stop learning is the day we die( my grandads saying),good video, keep it up.

[@TheAdventuresofPeteNoR]

“Decrease the dynamic loft”, who is this guy?

[@ForetoFourGolf]

as soon as the words left my mouth i realised what i sounded like 😂

[@TheAdventuresofPeteNoR]

@@ForetoFourGolf 😂😂

[@arildlennartrognes1898]

Not impessed with the caddie. Think you need to see him praktice, insted of ask how he feel about bunker and drive. And punchshot is better under trees

[@golfnut6129]

He was set up to go right on that second hole🤷🏼‍♂️

[@ForetoFourGolf]

He was, I didn’t catch it in time. Caddie no good

[@PrestigeDetailingStudio]

This is true, I generally set up more right cause I will generally put a draw on the ball.. should probably stop doing that 🤔

[@kyle381000]

I don't know that you're doing Rhys any good by condoning shots that could put in him into hazards. Yes, he was able to hit the ball 185m, but that put him in a bunker that he was ill-equipped to get out of very well. He would have been better advised to lay up to a comfortable distance in the middle of the fairway where he would probably have had a flat level lie. At this point in his development, he needs to avoid hazards and difficult shots more than anything else because he has not developed a proper short game. Beginners often believe that they get better by scoring more birdies, therefore they keep trying to make them and run up big numbers. They need to be shown that lower scores come from making fewer mistakes.

[@ForetoFourGolf]

This video was a while ago now, but I assume you mean on the first hole we play. I couldn’t agree more with you, he had no business going for the green with his second, and when I said he would have to accept being in the bunker as a real possibility (after he told me he can’t play out of bunkers) I hoped he would realise for himself. He didn’t, and the rest was, well, a learning experience for the lad.

[@allancheli]

Rhys is a lot better than me, so i must be a 72 handicap at least

[@youhen01]

If he could just take his time and tidy up the short game he wouldn’t be half bad. Enjoy

[@corvetteboy]

Cart color……😂😂😂

[@ForetoFourGolf]

😂

[@golfish8589]

Omg. On first hole he should have 1000% layed up short of the bunker. Quit watching

[@Kelprop]

Take a practice swing

[@ForetoFourGolf]

Usually good advice!

[@robotboy5990]

You show your distance in metres, is this how you play in oz? He states that he hits his driver 230-290. There is no way in hell he can hit a drive 320yards! I’m very confused 🫤

[@ForetoFourGolf]

That’s the 36 hcp trap. It was probably that he once hit a 290m drive downhill downbreeze in the middle of summer so he thinks it is possible. And he genuinely did hit it a long way, we just couldn’t be sure which direction