You could have the crappiest day at work, but when you come out to throw a leg over a bike to go home, the rest of your day can be amazing.
@tres3112 жыл бұрын
Unless it’s raining or it’s 6-8 months of the year. I live in Florida and I basically get 2k miles a year on my bike. Bikes have their own expenses and few bikes are more than 50 miles a day tolerable. Just a heads up for new riders.
@zeez90532 жыл бұрын
@@tres311 Florida would be my dream motorbike climate
@jayzee19682 жыл бұрын
Amen. Morning and 5pm… always look fwd to it. Yabadaba doo time!
@elevationmoto62082 жыл бұрын
@@zeez9053 The central valley of California is awesome for riding all year. No snow, little rain. Mountains nearby.
@JesseVad2 жыл бұрын
@@elevationmoto6208 I can't wait to ride around the valley soon. Except for that heat 🥵
@southerndeth2 жыл бұрын
You guys started out great with the small displacement bikes, then went off the rails with everything else. The best commuter bike I owned was the CBR250R, but it has some flaws. Those flaws were fixed by my Versys X 300. It has a 4.5 gallon tank, upright seating position, wind screen, faring, luggage rack, on/off road capability, plenty of power and only cost $5500!
@henryzabel17462 жыл бұрын
I have owned many many bikes in my 50 years of riding and my Versys 300 is the overall funnest bike ever . It is a Swiss Army knife of motorcycles . They started out telling mileage with tiny bikes and then quit . My 300 gets a low of 62 up to about 66 and at 4.5 gallons gives a great range . Mine is equipped with 50/50 tires and skid plate because I adveture ride it , but it still carves up the corners surprisingly well . The ABS works well , saved me from hitting an elk .
@rider6.02 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@marcofelipelopes30812 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 250s 300s and similar are the best for commuting and eventually going on highways.. super cheap to run, effiicent and easy to ride. i would start on a meteor nowadays. price and mileage are so appealing. great quality bike too
@rafeone98082 жыл бұрын
They getting paid to push certain bikes.
@YooperDanKulka2 жыл бұрын
For the same price I got the Kawasaki z 400.
@critterIMHO2 жыл бұрын
The Royal Enfield Himalayan doesn’t cost much more than a Grom, gets 70 mpg and can carry a weeks worth of groceries.
@WW-wf8tu2 жыл бұрын
I used to ride a KLR 250 that got 65-75 MPG. Much bigger, more rounded use bike than a Grom, I don't understand why those types of bikes would not be considered practical here either. It would do freeway drives where a Grom cannot. lol
@STho2052 жыл бұрын
RE Him has gone up in price, especially when you add the $500 required service after just a few hundred miles to readjust the valves and flush the oil. Now they are about what a MT03 or the standard Kawasaki is, which are better bikes with more HP (twins) and a more reliable company. The Meteor is the bottom price now and therefore knocked the Him. up in price by a few hundred. It's only 21hp and sluggish at the heavy weight. Comfy though.
@GregHuston2 жыл бұрын
I rode one of the first year bikes for a couple weeks in India, it had the chain stretch out so much it needed a couple links removed, the license plate vibrated off and the centered strand broke! Not exactly high quality, but in its defense it didn't have any show stopping failures.
@critterIMHO2 жыл бұрын
@@GregHuston There’s no doubt that the early Himalayans had issues.
@deltabluesdavidraye2 жыл бұрын
I have one .It's a great machine
@kennypool2 жыл бұрын
Top tip. You're not gonna safe gas on a 1200cc bike.
@BassOutcast2 жыл бұрын
The NC is simply phenomenal. With gas prices being the way they are, I'm so happy to be able to swing a leg and go on a trip without being so worried about the fuel economy. It's also wonderfully smooth, comfy with a passenger and even gets compliments every now and then.
@MinhVu-in9iz2 жыл бұрын
I put a down payment for mine nc750x too, I’m waiting for them to built one!!
@rslover652 жыл бұрын
Bought one in 15, 68mpg overall since I've owned it. Set of side cases and a top box and it's got car like carrying capacity. It's got 40k on it thus far with 0 issues.
@ThunderMonkey282 жыл бұрын
Mine has 50k miles it, love it.
@breandanwheeler52672 жыл бұрын
68 mpg on average for me. Saves me about 4-5$ a day on gas commuting
@brodarrin2 жыл бұрын
Great bike but uncomfortable seat
@telocity2 жыл бұрын
I think you missed 2 important points about the nc750x 1. Possibly highest fuel efficiency for size of engine. 2. Low rpm high torque making it easy to ride in town.
@petewelsh9978 Жыл бұрын
And very low centre of gravity makes it super easy to Lane split!
@clawhammer7042 жыл бұрын
I think 300 cc to 500cc would be best for fuel mileage and daily ride. Especially highway speeds.
@williamdavis48092 жыл бұрын
I bought the cbr650r last year and I ride to work daily. I kinda wish i had got the 500 for economy though
@jeladsnikpoh12892 жыл бұрын
Alot of comments about this class. I agree, it's the most fuel efficient class that you can still ride on ANY high speed American road. My Baby Njnja 300 is the perfect combination of sprightly acceleration, fuel economy, corner-carving goodness, reliability and looks. They didn't even mention the best class of bikes for fuel efficiency that's still freeway capable! They could've changed the title to "Commuter bikes we like the most", and left the false "Most fuel efficient" premise out of the title.
@joecamel68352 жыл бұрын
Any of the Honda 500's would be ideal.
@MrRourk2 жыл бұрын
My girl got a Svartpilen 401 and I got the 701 last year we love them.
@Thirsty_Fox2 жыл бұрын
It's criminal that the CB500F/R/X didn't get a mention -- easily some of the best mile munchers with lowest running costs. Get from 70 to 90 mpg with regular fuel (300 mi tanks), lower insurance than even the 300/400 class, and the relaxed engine has good low-end power (from about 2k RPM), not to mention lots of people have over 200,000 km on them without issue. These and the NC750X (which is street, not adventure anymore) are perfect commuter bikes and happy at freeway speeds. These expensive powerful bikes cost more to run than cars, burn just as much fuel, and cost more in insurance. The mini motos are too expensive for what they are, can't go on freeways, and have relatively short engine life and service intervals.
@toddlehman12 жыл бұрын
My CB500f is my favorite bike I’ve owned. So easy to ride and the low down torque makes it more fun around town than my ZX-6R. These 500’s as well as many Hondas are kind of underrated.
@MotoLopez1k2 жыл бұрын
In Europe a friend told me that they are paying 11 euros per gallon! I wonder how costly it’s going to get and for how long? I pay 160 monthly for my Honda500fa and pay 16 dollars to fill up after getting 250 miles per tank. For my car I paid $300 monthly plus $150 for full coverage and it has 11 gallon tank. I get 350 miles per tank …
@joemann79712 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how you got the idea than a CB500 is cheaper than a 300/400 class but I just ran a couple of estimates with GEICO, and the CB500F is much higher than either the Ninja 400 or Z400. I haven't tried the R3 or Mt-03, but I also imagine those will be cheaper. The only way the CB500 will be cheaper is if you're comparing an older CB500 with s newer 300/400 class vehicle. I also looked up the fuel economy and the range seems to be from 50-70, not 70-90. I'm sure the CB500 platform is great but don't spread false information.
@Thirsty_Fox2 жыл бұрын
@@joemann7971 Insurance for me in Ontario, Canada (which is always high) was C$700/yr for brand new CBR500R... the Ninja 400 was C$1,150/yr. When I asked why, they said it was due to the number of claims, which is higher with the Ninja. Either people are riding them more dangerously, or newer riders are choosing the N400 while people like me are choosing the Honda 500s as a second bike, thus less likely to have beginner crashes. In any case, those were the numbers for me and they kind of made sense when they explained it. In the end I chose the 500R. As for fuel econ, my best tank was 2.6 L/100km (90.5 USMPG), worst 3.4 L/100km (69.5 USMPG), average of 3.1 L/100km (75.9 USMPG). This is on regular fuel in Ontario which has 10% ethanol blend. I don't know what else to tell you -- that's what I get. Now it depends a whole lot on how you ride. Freeway above 110 km/h and it plummets towards 3.6 L/100km. Putting around town and commuting I've even seen as low as 2.2-2.3 L/100km. These are real numbers over 15,000 km of riding (two seasons). Looking on Fuelly, all the Honda 500 variants show about 10% better fuel economy compared with the Ninja 400 and R3. I have yet to see many other bikes that have the combination of performance, longevity, and low running costs as the 500R/F/X. I can tell you with certainty that bigger bikes like the Tracer 9 that are more expensive to buy and run shouldn't be in any list of "top 5 money saving commuter bikes" while the Honda 500s are omitted.
@toddlehman12 жыл бұрын
@@joemann7971 I don’t want to dispute any of your claims, and you’re right on with the mpg estimate, I am getting 59 mpg. But I want to mention that the quote I had with Geico was awful, way overpriced for the cb500f. Another provider had me insured very affordably.
@cwl50052 жыл бұрын
I live my 15 Suzuki Vstrom 650. It's very versatile and does great on gas, 55-63 mpgs. I know it typically doesn't end up an any lists but I haven't gotten bored with it yet and I call that a win in my book.
@rmcdudmk2122 жыл бұрын
Light to medium adventure bikes are great for a commute. 👍
@critterIMHO2 жыл бұрын
Even though it doesn’t get much love, the Vstrom 650 is a bike I’m definitely interested in.
@Bdub19522 жыл бұрын
@@matsmith5937 I started with a '00 SV and moved up to an '02 Vstrom 1000. 60 thousand miles later, it's still my go-to.
@Sea_Jay2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Honda Monkey last year for fun. And it is a blast to ride, I haven't really used my Harley since I got it. Now with gas prices where they are going, I think it's going to be primary transportation for me this summer. I would add the Royal Enfield Meteor 350 to the list... It's only $4500 and can do highway speeds
@larrywade90412 жыл бұрын
CJ Totally agree with you. I also bought a 2021 Monkey & I echo your feelings. I also have bigger bikes, but that Monkey makes it harder for me to get on them. That's unless i'm going 2 up.
@larrywade90412 жыл бұрын
@skkss I agree
@Bingomandingo2 жыл бұрын
Bro, right?! I got a Honda cub and it's the same thing for around town. I barely drive my Indian because of this gas economy
@DiogenesOfCa2 жыл бұрын
The Monkey reminds me of my youth.
@tauncfester30222 жыл бұрын
The SSR 250cc V-Twin Buccaneer, needs to be mentioned.
@cripplermaximus2 жыл бұрын
Actually the answer could also be “Any used Honda motorcycle under that runs under $2k private party” lol. You can get Honda Shadows for $1500-2000.
@JumpingWatermelons2 жыл бұрын
A lot of guys buy Shadows fin decent shape for like $500. (IDK how they find them, but they do)
@jrhunt4142 жыл бұрын
V-Strom 650. Cheap. Reliable, faster than most cars and hauls a bunch of crap. Does wheelies and gets 45-70 mpg with a 5.5 gallon tank. Runs on 87 gas. Effortlessly handles highway speeds. You can stand up on it too.
@pablolachmann70442 жыл бұрын
For small people like me, the SV 650. Same great motor and fast enough to feel comfortable on the german Autobahn.
@chazlyle412 жыл бұрын
Money saving isn’t true, but stress reliving and smile inducing sure are :)
@Bikergramp572 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with your choice of the Honda NC750X. A little difficult to get one right now, but I will definitely put one in my garage for commuting.
@xziang2 жыл бұрын
Being in CO a commuter I would lean towards would be a dual purpose bike like CRF300L.
@joecamel68352 жыл бұрын
If u can find one, they are hot sellers.
@michaelsanchez85192 жыл бұрын
The MT03 is a great commuter/ beginner bike. It’s cheap and a blast to ride, even at a lower displacement. I enjoy mine very much.
@joecamel68352 жыл бұрын
If you like squished legs.
@yeahyourerightheresmystupi5352 Жыл бұрын
@@joecamel6835 I’m 6’3 and have no issue with leg space. Unless you ride with your heels on the peg (which you shouldn’t) you won’t have an issue with leg room
@1antisupercat2 жыл бұрын
Used to have a z650 and it got something like 50 or 60 mpg. It was plenty quick and the mileage was awesome. But I sold it for a z900. I can say I definitely am not saving any money with a motorcycle but that’s ok. Smiles per gallon.
@joemann79712 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you're getting at least 35 or so MPG. You're still getting the performance of a gas guzzler with the fuel economy of a small sedan. That's still not bad.
@1antisupercat2 жыл бұрын
@@joemann7971 exactly right! Definitely no complaints from me.
@njohnson33312 жыл бұрын
My experience with a liter bike is that it's not great on the fuel. Mine is about 10 years old, so your mileage will vary. Also, even though it's more fun, I also tend to need new tires every year because my bike chews up tires (even dual compound tires) My thought is that riding a motorcycle is a reward in and of itself. Some bikes might be more or less economical, but they are all fun.
@rider6.02 жыл бұрын
I like how i can fit 4 motorcycles in my single car parking spot. 😋
@jimstenlund6017 Жыл бұрын
My FZ-1 gets about 42mpg, but it’s 87 octane, which amazes me that a bike with almost 150hp can run on cheap gas.
@davidklementis59132 жыл бұрын
Great video and info on the topic. I use my bikes as primary year round transportation just for reference to my opinion. Have done so on the Yamaha FZ6 from 2007 until I got my Kymco Spade in 2021. I still have and love the FZ6 and had other small two wheelers along the way. If someone asks me about getting a motorcycle mainly for the gas savings, I will usually refer them to a 150cc scooter first (250 to 400cc if interstate is involved). They are cheap (to maintain) and convenient. Cost of consumable parts and maintenance can eat away gas savings fast on a bigger (nicer) motorcycle over an economy car. The answer is the bike you have or a scooter if you already have a bike. This is just for those who's soul purpose is to save money.
@cameronchodeable2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I've had many different bikes throughout the years and the one I miss the most is my virago 250. 80+ mph and 80 (rated) mpg.
@SemiDad2 жыл бұрын
CBR500R/X/F is hard to beat as one of the best commuter bikes.
@MrKobayashi2 жыл бұрын
I'm with Southerndeth below. You guys went off the rails. Spending 8 to 15k is hardly saving any money. And I think there are few of us that really want to commute on a Navi. My picks are XT250, KLX300, TU250 (if you can even get your hands on one) and CRF300. Rallye version of you need the extra styling. And, can't forget the Himalayan. Affordable out the door, hellishly good mileage for each one, low insurance costs as well.
@joelness2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the list is more of a "Here are some random motorcycles that are being sold new." It gets into Zero price range with no mention of electrics at any price. If it's really a Top 5 money saving commuter bikes, they should either not cost so much to buy, or make up for it by removing fuel and engine maintenance costs. A $15k bike (Tracer) that doesn't get phenomenal mileage really has no place on a money-saving list.
@barneyboyle69332 жыл бұрын
I love the look of the TU250, but the rest of those all look like dirt bikes and most people over 20 don’t want to be seen riding one on public roads
@Cologne_Trooper Жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 Suzuki TU250X. I’ll never get rid of it. I can ride it all day and not feel fatigued and I look cool riding 😎
@MrKobayashi Жыл бұрын
@@Cologne_Trooper Awesome little bike! I'd love to pick one up, but they're darned hard to find!
@bytesandbikes2 жыл бұрын
if it's just about getting somewhere, the 'sport' 125s are surprisingly not *that* bad
@whydoineedahandle2692 жыл бұрын
Been commuting on a Monkey and it is perfect for me. Then again it’s only 6 miles and 45 mph limit tops.
@umeshc3717 Жыл бұрын
I'm a proud owner of a bone stock 2010 Aprilia Mana 850 and imo its an outstandingly practical commuter bike - super duper fuel efficient and so practical. Jay leno's got the naked, whereas mine's the GT with the panniers and looks so damn good with the panniers on. Done around 15,000 kms on it over 3 years so far. Cant be happier. 😇
@Lukiel6662 жыл бұрын
I started on a 650 Suzuki Savage. Single cylinder low weight low center of gravity low horses (sigh) but great starter bike. Had no problem taking it in Canada 500KM north to camp a week throwing a duffel bag on back and wearing a backpack that gave me combined a soft comfortable back rest. My GF rode one across Canada 5000 Km. So a starter bike with girl friendly weight you can comfortably ride all day on and enjoy and will get you where you want to go... even if it's 5000Km away. Oh and it's belt drive. Really beginner friendly.
@-Jethro-2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with your water cooled requirement (and apparently you do, too). That would exclude some really fun and affordable bikes, including the Honda mini-motos (Navi, Monkey, Grom, Super Cub) which somehow got on your list anyway…?
@PhilipBeresford2 жыл бұрын
125's produce so little power that the heat output is negligible.
@b.hessing11822 жыл бұрын
My DR-Z 400 is going to start pulling double duty as a commuter as soon as its warm enough. Spending 8 to 10 grand on a bike just to commute does not make much sense. You would be riding that thing for years and for thousands of miles before you started to recoup any gas costs you were trying to offset.
@MotoLopez1k2 жыл бұрын
If you don’t start…..In Europe a friend told me that they are paying 11 euros per gallon! I wonder how costly it’s going to get and for how long? I pay 160 monthly for my Honda500fa and pay 16 dollars to fill up after getting 250 miles per tank. For my car I paid $300 monthly plus $150 for full coverage and it has 11 gallon tank. I get 350 miles per tank …
@Georgeqaws2 жыл бұрын
In Canada we are at or close to $2/l or over $7 a gallon. Driving my DRZ 400 which gets 50mpg vs my F150 which gets like 15 will add up quick. Costs my like $15 to drive to work and back in the truck vs like $4 on the bike.
@eFasser2 жыл бұрын
Road Glide Limited - great commuter. 40-44 mpg. plenty of space. And if you buy it new lifetime tires(I go through 1.5 a year) and option to get free maintenance (I do ~15k miles a year on conservative side) definitely take a bright spot.
@Kyle-zy7ny26 күн бұрын
I daily a CRF300L. 72MPG. I dont ride it on the freeway but where i live its very easy to commute taking side roads with comparable time to arrival as taking the freeway.
@MichaelMoore-bx6st2 жыл бұрын
Scooters should make this list.. PCX, XMAX, etc.. way more storage and twist and go .
@cantfixasandwich46722 жыл бұрын
could not agree more. id say the pcx is better than the mini motos. cvt make it easy to ride and that storage is what i want in a commuter plus 50cc larger engine
@Dave-sw2dm2 жыл бұрын
There are so many factors to consider. If you want a motorcycle because you want a motorcycle, get one. If you are thinking about a motorcycle to save money you need to look at all the costs to buy, maintain, insure, plus the purchase of gear etc. If you are considering a mini-moto to ride to work you probably aren't commuting far with your car. Might as well buy a bicycle. My neighbor rode 100 miles round trip year round for 180,000 miles. He switched to a used Corolla and spends way less money overall.
@tauncfester30222 жыл бұрын
FortNine did an excellent segment on buying a motorcycle to save transportation costs. Rarely does it break even when you own an otherwise working car. If you love riding bikes, I'd say that's reason enough.
@bryanclark37392 жыл бұрын
You missed a segment of scooters that most people are unaware of, the three wheelers. I worked with a lady that one would NEVER suspect of riding a scooter, she commuted on a Piaggio. For people that might be afraid of two wheels, the three wheelers maybe just the ride. Personally, I’m thinking about a Monkey. Thanks for the reviews.
@bigalt2502 жыл бұрын
Worst commuter is my old VTX1800. Granted, I acquired it whenever fuel wasn't much of an issue. It is still currently my best choice though as it is more fuel efficient than either of my other vehicles. 33 mpg in ideal conditions with a stiff breeze on your back, but man is it fun.
@mike9rr2 жыл бұрын
My two cents: I road twenty years, about three seasons a year on commuter bikes. first one a BMW F650, about 50 MPG, had a windscreen and a 400 W alternator so I could power heated grips and vests. Second one was a BMW F800 ST with similar specs, 50 MPG, 400 W alternator, aftermarket windscreen. You say, "Oh BMWs are expensive." Well, I got mine as model end close outs. Saved a bunch. I had either hard or soft luggage, at times, to carry tools and service parts for my job. I had to get on roads where traffic was 70-80 MPH and ruthless so smaller bikes were not practical. I got caught in rain and cold. Aerostich, heated grips, and windscreen were all a Godsend. Get a helmet with anti-fog lens. Another thing: get a Scott Oiler or similar. You ride five days a week and somedays, when you get home wet, cold, and tired, you just want to hit the shower and not oil your chain.
@aaronczysz87582 жыл бұрын
The Honda Cub is the way to go. It has wind protection, big wheels, built in storage and great mileage. You don't see them in the states so much, but everywhere else they are literally the best and only answer to this question. I like the trail of course, but the cub is the goat.
@wrenchinator66672 жыл бұрын
188 mpg, more green than those electric machines.
@ronwest79302 жыл бұрын
I agree if you don't commute on the freeway. Honda should put the heel-toe shifter and enclosed chain on more bikes.
@rightwingsafetysquad98722 жыл бұрын
If fuel savings is your goal, the NC750 and Z/Ninja 400 (or 650) make a lot of sense. Everything else is either too small to want to ride every day or not very efficient. The Tracer 9, MT-09/XSR900 and Street Scrambler are going to be in the mid-40s mpg. You're just as well off with a Civic.
@TheAnnoyingBoss2 жыл бұрын
Hear me out, we beg Honda to make the next gen Grom like the new rebel and you can buy it with a 125 or with the lowest rebel engine, the 300. Then that sucker could go on the interstate across the country at 85 if you wanted. I think they should put belt drive on the 300 version for easier maintenance tbh. I hate chains and I never want to clean one If I don't have to. But I'll adjust a belt once in a while. A belt on the 125 wouldn't be worth it because it would reduce power to the wheel too much. But a 300 engine crammed in there with a belt might be a whole different story
@petewelsh9978 Жыл бұрын
The Honda NC750X is hands down the ultimate commuter bike
@Jaylyons1 Жыл бұрын
I currently have an MT-07 for my commuter. I truly love this bike, so much so that i'm considering an upgrade to the MT-09 but I am torn on whether I want to part with my MT-07. It great fuel economy at around 60mpg (it's even rated better than the MT-03), sounds awesome with the Akra carbon exhaust, and has all the power you need for highway riding. I'll likely trade it for an MT-09 this weekend, but I definitely plan on getting an XSR700 down the road. The worst commuter biked I owned was a Ninja ZX-10R. That's pretty much self explanatory.
@YooperDanKulka2 жыл бұрын
Because of your video I ordered a Kawasaki z 400. Will be in April. Cheap on gas & insurance. Thanks for the update. 68 yrs old yooper Dan
@Nickwillfixit2 жыл бұрын
My choice is just a tadd crazy I commute on a Yamaha VMX 1200 1988 or the 1700cc 2015 V-Max and on wet and windy my Yamaha TT350 Enduro
@1990-t1j2 жыл бұрын
Sounds good to me. I have a 1670 cc MT-01.
@PortersGarage2 жыл бұрын
I have a Z125 that works great for my commute, the 85-95mpgs I get with that during riding season help offset the 16-18mpgs I get with the Jeep in the winter months. If I want to use the highway to commute I also have a 2018 Lowrider, gets mid 40s. Can’t wait for the snow to stop and get back out on 2 wheels!
@CraigSmith5682 жыл бұрын
I get over 50 with my Heritage with the 114 as long as I keep it at 55 or less.
@PortersGarage2 жыл бұрын
@@CraigSmith568 yeah, I haven’t had too many rides where I was under 80mph interstate. I remember my Dyna lowrider 103 would get into the 50s on the back roads
@DRILL-SGT.HARTMAN2 жыл бұрын
I've gotten 80+ mpg on a Suzuki LS650 when I stayed 55mph and under on a day ride. There was no Interstate riding.
@ceesklumper10 ай бұрын
I would not consider any of these to commute on; looking for one now, that is more capable than my BMW C650 Sport. A grom on the 405 California highway?
@andyzedd32362 жыл бұрын
I commute on a Kawasaki Z900, I get close to 50MPG when driving easy. I like to have something a little more powerful than a 300-500cc because my commute includes highway and mountain roads. Bottom line is you have to find what fits your commute but there is nothing better than commuting on a bike, splitting lanes through thick traffic on my way home is the best feeling in the world. I wish more people would choose a motorcycle as their preferred method of commuting to cut down on overall congestion.
@chad36012 жыл бұрын
Second week commuting on my new trail 125. It's been so practical and fun.
@TheAnnoyingBoss2 жыл бұрын
Don't you just wish they'd sell an identical trail 125 except with the rebel 300 engine crammed into that sucker?
@bryanmiller20232 жыл бұрын
I have been really impressed with my 2021 KTM Duke 390 as a commuter. I bought it just to get out and have fun with, but with fuel prices what they are I'm now commuting on it to work whenever I can. I consistently get over 68 MPG and recently reset the trip meter after a fill-up and decided to stay off the throttle and MPG has jumped up to 76 with just a little effort towards getting good mileage instead of playing with the acceleration. 0 to 60 is around 5.5 seconds so it is faster than all but the fastest cars with plenty of power to get out of trouble. Comfortable upright riding position, terrific handling and it has been 100% reliable. It's not perfect, the light weight that makes it great in corners makes it less stable on the highway and it has zero built-in storage but most bikes that do better in that area don't get the good mileage a lighter bike will either. I'm an average size guy so it fits me fine but if you're a huge individual definitely go sit on one to see how it fits your frame. I typically think of mini motos and scooters when 70+ MPG is considered but with this you get the best of both worlds with great mileage and a real motorcycle that is a ball to ride.
@davidzavala3372 жыл бұрын
That's a bike and interesting. How much do you pay for yours? Here in SoCal I was quoted for a 2022 at $7,200 OTD. I'm aiming at a husqvarna svartpilen but there are none in my area.
@octanerage31502 жыл бұрын
@@davidzavala337 I just bought a 2022 Vitpilen in MA for 6700 OTD. I wanted the Svart but there was only one within 4 hours, in NJ for 8200 OTD. There was a Duke for 6900 an hour away, but I personally like the look of the Huskys more. If you can find either of the huskies, there's very minor differences between the two and either can be converted to the other pretty easily.
@bryanmiller20232 жыл бұрын
@@davidzavala337 I lucked out and found mine used just a few months old and still within the 600 mile break in period. It's pretty rare to find them on the used market because of their popularity but if you can obviously you will save on the dealer prep and whatever ridiculous markup they are charging. Mine has been great, over 3200 miles now and it still looks brand new.
@johnw652 жыл бұрын
I began riding in 1965 on a Ward's Riverside 125. Our family includes a Grom and a Navi for extreme MPG savings! Mid-size bikes are next in economy. My 250cc Venox can be baby'd to 70mpg but hi speeds drop it to 50mpg. 200cc to 250cc scooters and scrambler style bikes with bags ought to be great economically. Do you have experience in that range of bikes?
@netxzero39932 жыл бұрын
I commute mostly using my fzi150. 46km/L with a 12L tank. Built like a tank and gets me anywhere while i have my ninja 400 for squiding. Good mileage as well and has speed when i need it. Both bikes never hurts my back. And yeah your list should have stopped at the 400-500cc because the main point here is mileage.
@MeloCT10 ай бұрын
Further vouch on the 390 Duke. Sips fuel, robust, comfy, and absolutely playful, especially in corners. Love mine. Will say out of all these the NC700/750x are definitely the ultimate commuter machines.
@jgeph2.47 ай бұрын
I have a Honda Navi as my daily commuter . Plan secondary routes and it’s fine . Mpg is under 80 though so 56-60 reserve kicks in .
@thepab30722 жыл бұрын
I have a CB300R aka the big Grom. Had a FZ09, sold it, too much for my needs. Does everything well, doesn't look bad also
@Juleye2 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking of getting one of these. How well does it do at 65mph rpm-wise?
@thepab30722 жыл бұрын
@@Juleye About 7,000/7,500rpm from memory. I do 230km with a full tank of 10 litters
@s12832 жыл бұрын
With all the bikes your guys are playing with, I’d like to see your impression of one of the oldest school designs they still make new… the yamaha tw200. See how that stacks up to some of these other commuter dual purpose bikes.
@tauncfester30222 жыл бұрын
How about something even older design that most of the rest of the world rides, the pushrod Honda CG engined based Lifan 230 cc dualsport?
@SemiDad2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Add the XT250 as well.
@Mr.WS62 жыл бұрын
Had a 2017 ninja 300. Best bike ever. Did 110mph wasn't huntched over like other sport bikes. Took turns easy flipping it back and fourth because it was so light, 60mpg if you cruised on it right. $4k cash new off show room floor. Wish I never sold it. Guy bought it and turned it into a endurance race bike lol. Pretty cool.
@johnrettburg82242 жыл бұрын
The mt/fz07 is great for commuting same motor as the xsr700 but cheaper new ones are around $7,500 new with abs older ones are cheaper but without abs.
@davidzavala3372 жыл бұрын
Some of the bikes you guys mentioned are way too pricey for just commuter. For just commuting, I like the honda Rebel 500 for freeway commute and the 300cc for city. The Husqvarna Svartpilen is one of the best deals out there. Remember 300cc are freeway capable, but at at the limit with no more power, but 400 to 500cc have that extra poke for freeway commute. If you want more, then you want a toy, which is fine, whoe doesn't like speed, but for someone in a budget and for commute a bike needs to be less than $7 or $5 from city commute.
@benwells23382 жыл бұрын
I’ve been dailying my bike practically ever since I started riding three years ago. (No clue why it took me this long to discover the joys of riding) Grocery shopping, commuting, weekend day trips etc. It’s just SO much more fun than driving and on top of the great gas mileage, splitting lanes is a VIP pass on congested freeways when even the carpool lane backs up, let’s see you top that you Tesla snobs 😎✌️Sad though, I used to really enjoy driving my car around, but now it just collects dust.
@ruffleschips9055 Жыл бұрын
I would consider the Yamaha 700 Tracer, and the Honda 750 TransAlp.
@freddworacek722 жыл бұрын
If you are looking to save fuel you have to go with low deplacement bikes. I commute with a 21 Honda Grom. I might step up to a crf 300 or the husky svartpilen 401 due to lak of speed on the Grom. My second bike is a BMW S1000XR, but its not very fuel efficent compared with the Grom.
@thinkingoutloud91262 жыл бұрын
Completely skipped the cruiser segment. Lots of good and cheap ones that are liquid cooled versatile and comfortable, mor comfortable than naked for sure. I think these guys have their sponsors and their bases they’re playing to and aren’t all around motorcycle enthusiasts.
@nightfury6836 Жыл бұрын
You guys are doing some brilliant work in this channel. But remember, that what you’d end up saving in fuel costs you’d pretty much end up spending in tires; motorcycle tires don’t last too long. For my 10.5 mile commute here in western NC I ride a 2019 XT250 and a 2020 R3. They’re extremely reliable and best of all CHEAP to own. $55 monthly full cover insurance for both bikes 😎🔥
@jesseonamotorcycle2 жыл бұрын
I’m in the process of buying a Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer. I’m excited. Can’t wait to commute on it and travel.
@GregHuston2 жыл бұрын
I agree on the 700cc class bike; light simple bike and enough power for this altitude (I work about 2 mins from TFL HQ). I mostly ride an R12GS and the big Sport & ADV tourers make good practical commuters but the economics just aren't there with the high cost of entry, costly maintenance and not the best MPGs (40 on the R12GS). I secretly want one of those Trail 125s, I see you ended in Lyons, but you should've ventured up to Estes to see who it could handle the steep grade.
@caffeineman722 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a Genuine Scooter Company, Buddy 170i - got it used for $1000, get's 80+ mpg and will get me up to 65 mph and I am 220 lbs.
@km4fsi8272 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised you left out one, I just bought a new Honda PCX 160. 98MPG top speed 85+MPH price is less than 5grand. 4 valve liquid cooled. huge amounts of storage.
@NothingCoherent2 жыл бұрын
Low displacement dual sports. TW200 is my pick if I don't need to go on the highway.
@numberxx72 жыл бұрын
Good suggestive video, however, I miss the actual gas mileage! Except for the first couple of mini-motos, you did not mentions actual gas consumption. I've had few bikes and always watch gas mileage.. But as my '98 CBR1100XX used to get about 33-36 around city, it would easily climb up to 47-50 on the highway... Now, saddling 2021 CB100R - i am half highway and half side street (40 miles daily, I average 38, and don't seem to get it better.. My previous bike 2017 FXDLS with a 110 CI Screaming Eagle would run about 39 miles on a gallon, and that was all side/city streets! And yes, I am looking for my next ride.. Cheers and keep it rubber down!!
@gregferris93782 жыл бұрын
KLR 650. 55 mpg. Inexpensive and low maintenance. I had one and miss it.
@-Jethro-2 жыл бұрын
Then I nominate the KLR250. Love mine and there’s no electric starter to break! JK 😎
@jackogburn39102 жыл бұрын
You will pay more for tires than you will ever save on gas.
@captslaq2 жыл бұрын
This is criminally underrated. You have to be driving something awfully thirsty to have a motorcycle actually save you money as a commuter.
@samuelconnolly3472 ай бұрын
I disagree. I've been commuting on my CBF for a few years now. I estimate I've saved money on the upfront cost of the bike Vs driving my car (I have a basic, fuel efficient hatchback), including maintenance. I've also saved time because I can filter through traffic. Fuel here in the UK is frighteningly expensive, so savings really do add up quickly.
@JumpingWatermelons2 жыл бұрын
The champion of commonly manufactured bikes was IMO the Honda Super Cub from the 60s. Could get like 240mpg(!!!)., They were super reliable and could last VERY long if maintained decently. Could be driven while carrying WAY more than most motorcycles because of the underbone design (can carry a bag there, or quite large objects) and the rear platform, and because you can ride without using your left hand (no clutch since semi-auto transmission)
@namelesssnitchy2 жыл бұрын
i think 400cc 2 cylinder fuel injected is all we need.
@seanfletter90982 жыл бұрын
I live in california and have a z400. Amazing around town bike. I live in a small coastal town and there is no speed limit above 55 in any direction for atleast 45 minutes so typically it has all the power I need. I ride it pretty hard though and average 51 mpg. I did ride it on a 3 hour trip with a lot of freeway recently. It starts suffering a bit after 70mph and cruising at 80mph had my hands buzzing pretty hard from vibration. As a city commuter bike I am in love. For long trips I want something more.
@adam3464 ай бұрын
Cb300r. It's only a bit more than the Monkey/Trail and you get twice the horse-power and if you are easy on the accel, can be pretty damn fuel efficient.. like 90+mpg. I went out for a ride with a buddy of mine (on a z900) and we both came back on half tanks... he had to spend a lot of time at the speed limit to let me catch up and I was wringing it on the cb... and I still did 70mpg.
@billdirlam7442 жыл бұрын
If you live in the urban parts of California the best reason to commute on a motorcycle is that you can split lanes on the highways as well as ride in the high occupancy commuter lanes where they are available. Being able to slip through dense traffic that has stalled cars and trucks is like having a super power. Once you get the hang of lane splitting you'll realize that it's actually much safer than poking along like the 4 wheel vehicles are forced to do. Lane splitting should be made legal in all 50 states and territories. Sometimes the best ideas do come from the west.
@flyingrv62 жыл бұрын
I agree with most people here that this vid missed the mark in a big way. Your showing bikes to guys that are damn near the price of a brand new Basic Kia. This is so off the mark. The Navi yes, but if we are talking budget commuter bike you shouldn’t be showing anything over $6K. Grom, Monkey, Z125, CB300 up to something like a KLR650 at most. These are bikes that guys can ride on a budget. When you start talking about Yamaha 9GT,,,,come on. You put $15k, tax, doc, license….your 17K. By the time you pay that off your $22K into it. Not even close to “budget”. You might wanna do a follow up vid “Real budget bikes, not pipe dreams”. Your mileage may very. Peace.
@StudyWithM3E462 жыл бұрын
Finally a video that nails what I was looking for. Looking to get a bike this month solely because gas prices are out of control. Okay and I need something a bit more reliable than my older bimmer 😂
@donuthole72362 жыл бұрын
What, no dual sport bikes on the list? I ride a DR-650 which can be converted to a supermoto. Nothing can match it in heavy traffic and is a blast to ride. Great riding position, lots of torque and you can stand up on the pegs giving you a clear view over cars. Very little maintenance and if you lay it down there is a good chance you won't damage it being a dirt bike with blinkers.
@alastairtheduke2 жыл бұрын
No mention of how expensive tires and valve checks are. These definitely add up and on a small bike can cost even more than fuel all year.
@davidklementis59132 жыл бұрын
I agree. You can make motorcycles an economic transportation option, but these details are often missing from the conversation. Hard to save money when comparing purchasing a bike over using what you already have or a higher end motorcycle to a economy car.
@tauncfester30222 жыл бұрын
I do my own valve checks and adjustments, and know how to change my own tires, which cost a little under $50 each.
@DaBudaa12 жыл бұрын
I own a 2019 Kawasaki Z650 ABS and it's both an awesome commuter & weekend fun toy.
@chazlyle412 жыл бұрын
Used to call my XT225 / XT250 my moped. Got 75-85+ mpg to and from work and took the fun way home!
@pauld.b71292 жыл бұрын
Air cooled doesn't mean more heat is going to be generated. Usually less overall is actually created. The heat is simply blown off the radiator instead of the actual engine, but that won't make a difference with how much you feel. That has more to do with the layout of the motorcycle. Also, the Royal Enfield Meteor should be on this list. Only bike besides the Grom that get 100mpg....
@sauerOFkraut Жыл бұрын
I am weighing getting a versys 300 for commuting during warmer months. I travel 141 miles 3 days a week. my feista gets 45mpg but the versys gets 80.
@jamesmcmillian98962 жыл бұрын
If your gonna buy a motorcycle to save on fuel cost dont forget to factor in tires because motorcycle tires dont last anywhere close to as long as car tires. Also winter months and rain days you wont be going too far on a bike.
@TheAnnoyingBoss2 жыл бұрын
Fine by me because I live in a desert. Their is almost no rain days. Only cold or hot days. Tires aren't as bad as you would think. Especially if you get a smaller bike like a Grom or some kind of 250-300. They're affordable enough that one set a season isn't the end of the world. The gas savings helps pay for it. Plus their is already lots of savings by not buying a new 20k+ car
@Bdub19522 жыл бұрын
I wish you would have done this with a $7k ceiling, and include used bikes. I've commuted on everything from a Honda C110 to a V-strom 1000, and the choices are almost endless, particularly now with a generation of used fuel injected bikes. Taking in the range, we're talking about everything from a brand new Monkey OR a used DL1000 for the same amount of money. Crazy times for motorcycle enthusiasts. Thanks for carrying the torch.
@garysanchezphotography2 жыл бұрын
All these bikes are cool for commuting but I like dual sport bikes for maneuvering heavy traffic and cramped city spaces just like dual sports on tight trails. .
@matthewgarland85162 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if it’s the best commuter but I’ve been riding the 2019 Suzuki vstrom 650 for the last 3 years and it’s been a really good all rounder and get 460ks out of a 20 litre tank 70 horsepower which isn’t a lot but enough to still have fun in the twistys good for taking the misses out on the weekends and can take it on a few off-road trails to I’ve put a givi 47 litre top box on it and a akrapovic exhaust and racked up nearly 40000ks on it
@pcthayer2 жыл бұрын
I like cruisers, but did discover when commuting and trying to illegally park in the city to avoid expensive parking garages, the sports bikes were shorter so could fit in tiny spots that my cruiser couldn't. (almost bought a sports/naked bike just to commute on.)
@SuperArtarded2 жыл бұрын
versys 300, cold operating, 100mph, 60mpg, upright, windscreen, slipper clutch, abs, what more do you want.
@colbyfrancoeur35492 жыл бұрын
Y’all forgot the 155 mpg of the grom lol. What’s amazing is how easy it is to achieve just by normal riding
@jbean5302 жыл бұрын
My Grom gets 100 mpg. You got a really good deal.
@colbyfrancoeur35492 жыл бұрын
@@jbean530 I don’t know what year you have but the new 2022- has a new engine that’s more efficient👍🏼
@thebestever333 Жыл бұрын
I live in Los Angeles and the thing I'm mostly worried about is getting rear ended or side swap in a lane merge cuz people look at their phone more than the road and drive super fast and jump on the breaks when they have to instead of driving properly
@andnor5 ай бұрын
Harley dyna super glide custom. Cheaper mileage than any car that i had, cheaper insurance. Expensive to buy, more expensive than most commuter bikes to do maintenance on... But its my primary means of transportation and comfortable as heck!
@rocketrollsvlogs76252 жыл бұрын
Maybe not the best but I love commuting on my Africa Twin. I loved commuting on my Honda CB500X. I think I wanna move on the Honda NT1100 next.
@peacebewu2 жыл бұрын
In south east asia, greece, latin america, underbone bikes(similar frame as supercub) are king lol. Even carb types are fuel efficient. Runs 1-2k usd.
@brianm57532 жыл бұрын
100cc are the best and worst. Best for sipping fuel and low maintenance. Worst for being slow
@JagoTFC Жыл бұрын
Basically you described the Z650 on the intro, or a 390 and 690 Duke and Husqvarna's equivalent.
@Prosecute-fauci2 жыл бұрын
I bought my first bike because it gets over 100mpg. I’m glad I did because it is a very enjoyable experience to ride a motorcycle.
@samueltownsend15692 жыл бұрын
Honda Moove scooter. Just did 190 miles on 1 gallon of gas. 110cc fuel injected motor built by Hero in India. Wifey picked it up used one for $750 with 4000km on the clock. My personal bike is a 2017 Kawasaki Versys-X 300cc paid $2500 it 7000km. I get an average of 75mpg and I’ve seen 100mpg on rare occasion when I’m driving very conservative. Sidenote here in Thailand lots of people take small displacement motorcycles and put side cars on them and use them as small delivery trucks. We just picked one up for 75 bucks and will be installing it on her scooter in the next week or two. Even though our turbo diesel Isuzu 3 L in-line four gets 35 miles to the gallon. We will start using the Honda scooter as our primary vehicle when going to town for supplies.
@crazypigs100 Жыл бұрын
In the UK it's too wet and bikes cost thousands which negate the mpg. Also too many licences and hoops to go through
@mr.t99762 жыл бұрын
Love my NC. Averaging about 65 mpg.
@posterlion Жыл бұрын
Since we are talking about saving money, what about the Royal Enfield Hunter 350 for $3999? The Hunter is the same price as the Trail 125, but it has a 350cc engine.
@cycoklr2 жыл бұрын
Engine displacement should not be a major issue. Asia has millions of 125cc scooters, motorcycles and underbones used daily as workhorses. They can propel you to 50-60mph depending on payload. Fuel mileage is up there around 100+mpg.. The best part is that you can run full throttle 90% of the time and not worry about losing your license.
@Frank-vo9xo Жыл бұрын
That's funny you bring up the Mini motorcycle I just bought was the Honda C T1 25 brand new