Forging a wall sconce candle holder

[@1954JDR]

My grandfather made things from old horse shoes. I have a fireplace set that he made. The poker has a perfect oval eye.

[@matthewt88]

As a part time blacksmith I enjoy watching a fellow smith work. I learn something from nearly every video. That said, what I really appreciate is the production value and humor in your videos. They flow well and are easy to watch and you’re funny without being jokey. Thanks!

[@pavelvitek28]

It did not go as planned, but that's ,I think, the best what John can do for us, begginers especially. I learn so much from you, John! Thank you very much for your videos.👍👍👍 you do great job!

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Still nice even with the weld. Enjoyed.

[@scotthaddad563]

Format of intro is great! The project was nicely done!

[@wanderingthewilderness]

Thanks for the idea my friend

[@jamesbarisitz4794]

Awesome that modern blacksmith technology is around. It's not like there's a student pumping the bellows ! Welding to improve the end result is using what you have at hand. Like all skilled makers do. 👍 👌

[@davepoulton7530]

Love it mate ( Dave from Australia )

[@violetspringsforge9002]

This soap is fantastic. I was able to set my tent up next to these wonderful folks earlier this year. I use their soap often when cleaning up at the end of long forging day.

[@richardsolomon8076]

Nice box to arrive :) always handy for the working folks, very nice John looks like it would free stand on a table quite nicely.

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

That was a great project John. Sure enjoyed watching and seeing you change things around here and there.👍 You recovered well and it turned out great. Thanks for sharing with us.

[@BlackBearForge]

You are quite welcome

[@brysonalden5414]

Another thoughtful video. Thanks very, very much for continuing to take the time to create these videos; you probably have no idea how many aspiring smiths you're helping.

[@BlackBearForge]

My pleasue. I'm just glad people are getting soemthing form the effort

[@5x535]

@@BlackBearForge I tinks that it may be that you just have no idea how much we get, Mr. John. Thank you again for being so real and for making the effort. And let us all not forget that ALL prototypes develop changes in design and technique. Proof of concept.

[@tobyjo57]

That's really great John. The candle cup portion is quite adventurous

[@steelpennyforge5152]

The piece turned out great! As you were punching I was wondering if a square hole would be better (something I learned watching your videos). Thanks as always for taking us along and teaching!

[@BlackBearForge]

You should have said something😜

[@gurvinderkau1e5w18]

Beautiful candle holder. So many tools used to make it. Another great blacksmithing project. Was fun to watch👍

[@phillipcroyle]

A beautiful piece, well done. Only thing I would have done (personal preference of course) would be to curl the very top end of the candle holder just a bit. Well done either way. Shalom

[@kensmapleleafretirement]

Thank you for the video. Always interesting. I notice that when you go to flat by knocking down the diamonds in the beginning, that you get a wider spread and there is no way you could get a cold shut. Genius....

[@stanervin6108]

Soldering with brass is another joinery method. Had a neighbor that owned a mom 'n' pop hardware store tha gave me well over a pound of brass shavings from under his key cutting machine. 🐾🔥⚒

[@BlackBearForge]

True but it generally requires a better fitting joint

[@stanervin6108]

@@BlackBearForge Totally agree. Good point, John.

[@BadgerRobot]

I was fortunate enough to be able to take a class with Peter Ross, and he used a cheap hardware store tapered reamer on his holes before riveting. It worked great.

[@BlackBearForge]

Thats a good tip

[@bentoombs]

Nice project. There is allot of cool ideas there. 👍🔨On!!

[@BlackBearForge]

Thanks

[@michaelgallagher5402]

Thanks! Another great Christmas idea.

[@canuckloyalist4681]

Soap the way Granny Moses used to make it!

[@larrystrayer8336]

I made a lot of this type however I did the opposite of yours. I left 2 -3 inch tangs on the open side and brought them together in the center with a similar arch as u did. Made for 4-5” candles. I stopped making them as the market is too slow.

[@JarlSeamus]

That looks like it might even stand up on its own without being nailed to a wall. Nice design.

[@marbles430]

Sweet project, and is the case with all your demos. Fun to watch and easy to follow an learn from. Thanks for sharing.

[@BlackBearForge]

Thank you, glad you are enjoying the videos

[@Flabuse01]

Here in Sweden I estimate an average candle thickness to be about an inch. So when making candle holders with a conical shape from square stock, I usually start with 10 mm, upset one end to a final dimension of about an inch across the diagonal and that usually ends up perfect when peened. Saves a lot of time working on the diamond! Also, thank you for all of your inspiring videos!

[@smartgorilla]

That sounds so good

[@BlackBearForge]

Thanks, I will give that a try

[@messylaura]

make a few light serrations with a hammer or hacksaw on the stem of the hold fast for a fix, its probably gone super smooth at the point where it grips the inner hardy hole.

[@phillipcroyle]

"Yeah I could probably use some soap sometimes" Any good hard working person with hands deep in any form of grime or dirt needs a good soap. I prefer Lava Soap myself for I am fairly finding myself elbow deep in car grime in my metal workings. One time I found myself doing an unusual form of fixing of a bronco door. Get it past inspection she said, so we placed duct tape across the missing bottom section and slathered on Tiger Hair. Went right through and she got her final use out of it to get the money for another vehicle. Goes to show that one doesn't need to do the best work at times but the simple can be the best solution when in dire need. Be it what it is, always do your best no matter the requirement. If your work speaks for itself, one needs not to boast. Be humble in your work and aim for good work always. But always be ready for that one job from left field that puts you in the odd position as well. The odd jobs test you the most, overcome them with your humbleness and good works. Blessings to those that do so. Shalom

[@terrybrown5035]

Phillip Croyle m

[@tomcarlson3244]

I like the the smaller square on the originals dimond

[@scarface-39]

I like it!!👍

[@frankgaletzka8477]

Hello John You are a Wizard with iron and a Hammer 👍👍 Out of nothing you build another hook of the week . Very inspiring and usefull to learn Go on with it Good bless you Yours Frank

[@rabadgett]

I think I will try and make one of these soon looks very nice John good work!

[@johnjude2685]

All I noticed was your teaching Sir , Yes Blacksmit like good grooming to Thanks for showing

[@randallsummers6551]

I think welding it was just fine. Looks good. Take care and God bless.

[@charleszimmermann7784]

Thanks John, I always prefer to learn from others mistakes and not my own. It was a little mistake though, not like mine which tend to be humdingers of mistakes. I tried to forage a horse shoe pumpkin for a college at work, at first I tried to forge weld the horseshoes together (way beyond my skill set) not even sure you can perform multiple forge weld over the same ares, it seems as if you should be able to, but beyond me. So in my frustration I just stick welded them together, and in my haste forgot to place the candle holder, which I spent way too much time on (using only the horn of my anvil), into the center of the pumpkin. Sometimes it seems as if the Anvil gods are trying to tell me something, and other times they smile.

[@TheRustyGarageandHomestead]

Awsome job Mr John. I'll be making one of these this week. Also I'm excited I just finished building my clay spencer tire hammer. I'm excited to see and learn what I can do with it

[@tinkmarshino]

Nice John.. looks like a candle holder you would find in a medieval castle... Oh, I found that etsy place.. thanks for the deal John.. carry on..

[@shirlmiester]

Another winner John. I'm heading to the forge.

[@billy19461]

Loved the overhead camera shot.

[@BlackBearForge]

Thanks

[@guiltyspark7933]

I allways plugweld joints like that for produktion it is just faster and easyer but i just do it on the back not at the frontside. Great work

[@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740]

Neat project Mr John so much potential for so many end result s 🙏 Be blessed now y'all Crawford out 🧙‍♂️

[@BlackBearForge]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@andycamm6317]

Life is always about changing things as you go along nice to see that things don't always go the way you want john

[@robertmartin7643]

Thanks John! Very nice work!

[@sailorbychoice1]

I'm writing a story that takes place in the 1870s/1880s in the old west. One of the major supporting characters is the local apprentice smith. It takes place as a town is transforming from a gold-boomtown to a ranching/farming community as the _respectable_ families are establishing themselves. The Mastersmith is teaching the apprentice how one makes a living; these are what will make you money in a boomtown environment; gold pans, sluice boxes, rocker boxes, shovels, picks... and the like, to earn your livelihood, and these are the things you want to know when _civilization_ catches up to you. I know that when there are no other jobs waiting, there are always nails to make, horse shoes to make ready, but I was wondering~ I've seen you make cooking forks and knives, they would be a natural things for them to make. What else would have been found in the front of the blacksmith's shop, the 19th century version of impulse buying when someone brings their horse in to be shoed, then sees a ... potato masher, or something they hadn't thought of as being necessary before when they had to load and carry everything they owned across most of a continent, but now that they are settling in... and seeing a potato masher being made would be cool...

[@windyhillfoundry5940]

Awesome piece👌

[@G19amc]

looks good to me.. Crap happen sometimes, best thing to do is to make the correction like you did and continue marching on.

[@donnarhill1932]

Love it!

[@rch317]

Awesome!

[@willm9464]

I like the look, I wonder what the bar for the candle holder would look like if it were shaped like the new World Trade Center building. The 2 ends square at 45 degrees to each other with 8 sides tapering to points depending on which square they start from.

[@douglasfathers4848]

Really like it when you show your hiccups John and not try to hide them ,it shows even the best are still learning. as for the candle holder it turned out grate. by the way my smell cam seems to be not working .ha ha .

[@gustavgnoettgen]

I know something similar, using a picture frame, an anvil and a torch.

[@DavidGrassSr]

Well,sometimes you half to do something a little different but, it turned out just fine ..Texas

[@samdirichlet7500]

Sometime when my holdfast stops holding it’s because it’s been a little work hardened. Annealing can help.

[@almadeckard8360]

It needed one more thing a candle pan for the wax runoff. If it was meant to be old fashioned it could also use a reflector to through the light out more,

[@BlackBearForge]

Old ones would often be quite simple. It seems like when candle dripped, wax pans were less common. Now that candles are dripless, wax pans are very common

[@stephenknecht7189]

I may have asked this before, but what size hammer is that? And who makes it

[@kirkendauhl6990]

Wow I’m early

[@BlackBearForge]

👍

[@stephenknecht7189]

What size square bar was that

[@lenblacksmith8559]

Nicely done John. Mate have you found that the hot metal gloves you wear are out of stock at piehtools. And have Carolina Company upgraded this model of glove, couldn't find it at their site.??

[@BlackBearForge]

I sure hope they haven't quit making them.

[@lenblacksmith8559]

@@BlackBearForge Could you contact Piertools and see what the go is please John.?

[@Joe___R]

You definitely went about making the small diamond section the hardest way possible. You might want to plan your next project a bit more carefully. It looks nice in the end though.

[@BlackBearForge]

I have actually found this to be a reliable and easy enough way to create that element. Upsetting generally takes about the same time once you clean it up and then reforge to square.

[@grandadz_forge]

What is that in the upper left corner of the left window behind you?

[@BlackBearForge]

I'm not sure what you're seeing. it all looks the same to me as it is in every video

[@wellybobs4403]

I 😘 be this but can't help think it needs something to catch the wax before it goes on my carpet .

[@obh7762]

Could you make the sconce by slitting/punching into the end of the bar?

[@BlackBearForge]

Probably, but i would have to think about exactly how I would pull that off

[@fouledanchorforge5223]

@@BlackBearForge I was thinking about a candle pad and a glass globe. Just haven't figured it out yet. Maybe we'll see it next Wednesday.

[@obh7762]

@@BlackBearForge Okay. by the way, are you doing the countdown to Christmas this year?

[@OuroborosArmory]

“Pooch”. It’s a technical term :)

[@BlackBearForge]

Right 😜

[@Divalium]

I do'nt know anything about blacksmithing, but why is there lot of flat metal parts coming off, like a metal skin, when you working hot piece, for example at 9:52 ? Are not you afraid of losing material ?

[@BlackBearForge]

Thats called scale. Its a form of iron oxide that forms when hot iron is exposed to air. on small ornamental projects its not a real issue. On big industrial forgings they calculate the scale loss when choosing a starting material volume.

[@Divalium]

@@BlackBearForge Thanks for the explanation ! What a nice channel you have !

[@jonhowitt4431]

Can you use a monkey tool with a square tenon?

[@BlackBearForge]

I have made square monkey tools for that purpose.

[@jonhowitt4431]

@@BlackBearForge sorry for all the questions . Did you drill and then file it square or use some other method

[@jerrypitts1442]

John, could you forge a pan on the candle holder to catch the melted wax, just asking?

[@BlackBearForge]

You could, but that generally leads to separate pieces and was not generally done on very simple pieces.