Forgotten History: Vercors - the Climactic Battle of the French Resistance

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@d_a_n_a.
@d_a_n_a. 5 жыл бұрын
I live in the Vercors and here it’s a real pride that the people didn’t give up during WW2. Sadly we don’t hear enough about this beautiful and tragic part of our history 💔
@stefanmolnapor910
@stefanmolnapor910 4 жыл бұрын
Keep it going!!! Make sure it does not become Forsaken!
@ah9338
@ah9338 4 жыл бұрын
rpz
@sebastiandc1392
@sebastiandc1392 4 жыл бұрын
yeah well, next time try no to erase germany as a nation. Hope you learned the lesson.
@Le_Church
@Le_Church 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiandc1392 Yes, I too like to rewrite history from the comfort of my own home.
@damien4848
@damien4848 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiandc1392 Lesson ? Are you talking about the French peasants massacred by the Totenkopf division in 1940, by the HitlerJugend division in 43/44 ? The carriers of this lesson which seemed to you deserved are not themselves very clean. Your lesson is the mountains of corpses of hostages, victims of reprisals and crimes yet very weak compared to what the Wehrmacht (bearer of healthy revenge :-)) did in the USSR. Besides, what was the project in the Soviet Union? They did not want to suppress Germany. Oh no, sorry, it was Hitler's Germany who wanted to suppress Russia as a constituted nation.
@THE9LOL7ABLE
@THE9LOL7ABLE 6 жыл бұрын
Really loving these Forgotten History tours and insights, guns are one thing but theatres of combat is also another, fascinating!
@iainmackenzie6379
@iainmackenzie6379 6 жыл бұрын
THE9LOL7ABLE Couldnt agree more.
@tigweldNY
@tigweldNY 4 жыл бұрын
Ian is the fucking man.
@devilkuro
@devilkuro 5 жыл бұрын
My grandfather lived in a village in the southern alps during WWII called Belvédère. There was a small section of resistants there, although they were mostly kids trying to show off. At some point, one of the resistants was trying to impress 2 girls by showing his gun and while doing so, accidentaly fired a shot. Every other resistant in the village heard the shot and thought the germans arrived so they all went to their assigned post and waited for the germans to come to defend the town. It was quickly found out that it was this kid who fired the shot and they all went to his home, where he hid, really angry wanting to punish him. When the door opened, they ended up in front of the kid's mother who was as large as the door (mind you, doors in village houses weren't big, but it still was impressive), the others couldn't see anything past her she was so large and imposing. She said "If you want to see my son, you have to see me first" and then everyone was saying "well, it's okay, he is forgiven, but tell him not to do it next time ok ?". There were more scared of his mom than of the germans haha Another story my grandfather told me was about an italian section staying in the village for a day while going back to Italy after they switched sides. One of the soldier was taking care of an MG mounted on a car. He disassembled it and started to clean all the pieces. While the soldier wasn't looking, some kids stole the firing pin. When the italian soldier found out (he was really young, probably under 20), he panicked and started crying, saying the germans were about to come and he would not be able to defend himself. Of course, at some point the firing pin was given back to him and the section was then able to go back to Italy.
@DanTaninecz
@DanTaninecz Жыл бұрын
I have seen this town on Wikipedia and have always wanted to visit. Do you still have connections to the area? Fascinating and beautiful part of a fascinating and beautiful country. Vive la France.
@dougler500
@dougler500 6 жыл бұрын
Ian, I want to give you a massive thank you for this. Thank you for going there, filming this, and putting this up for everyone to learn from. The site is fantastic and your coherent story telling of it's history really makes these videos some of the best around. Please keep doing history lessons like these!
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@derekdziobek5998
@derekdziobek5998 6 жыл бұрын
That's some beautiful countryside.
@darshone
@darshone 6 жыл бұрын
One of the most beautiful places of our country.
@Domokun-Dahu
@Domokun-Dahu 6 жыл бұрын
Worth fighting for
@darshone
@darshone 6 жыл бұрын
Domo kun it definitively is.
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 4 жыл бұрын
France is very beautiful.
@Le_Church
@Le_Church 6 жыл бұрын
I live in France and I absolutely love your channel. I find you incredibly knowledgeable, courteous, respectful and I thank you for being one of my favorite youtuber here. Thank you for your contribution to remembering history and the attention to details.
@leejackson1512
@leejackson1512 Жыл бұрын
Well done, Ian! I watched Wish Me Luck a few years ago, and despite thinking (then) that the scenario about Vercors had been dramatized beyond reality, it affected me for weeks after. I'm a war veteran and I've learned that so many things about war that seem unlikely actually occurred, so I sensed that my initial inclination might be wrong. Since then, other research made clear that I was wrong, and your video gave me the context. It also brought back the sadness I felt on watching the series. I've just ordered Tears of Glory. Thank you for a job well done.
@Tulip1811
@Tulip1811 6 жыл бұрын
A fascinating story very well told, good job Ian!
@EdwardPCampbell
@EdwardPCampbell 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time and trouble to cover this heroic but painful episode in the history of the French Resistance. I only came across it briefly in the 1998 production: Secrets of War, On All Fronts, The French Resistance, narrated by Charlton Heston. 37:00
@ggousier
@ggousier 6 жыл бұрын
"Le Maquis du Vercors" is a forgotten history because in France no one tell about it. In France scholar books teach to children always the same things about WWII. "La campagne de France" and the disaster, Vichy and the collaboration, The Dday and "De Gaulle et la libération" and that's all. No words on French Resistants. No words on French colonial troops or FFL who fought side by side with British and American troops etc etc... In France a lot of people don't know either that an another landing took place in August 1944 in Provence. Thanks a lot Ian to tell us about this battle and greetings from a French guy. ;)
@corbierehippolyte178
@corbierehippolyte178 6 жыл бұрын
Grand Gousier je sais pas où t'es allé à l'école mais moi je suis de Grenoble (donc tout près du Vercors) et on a fait un grand chapitre sur la résistance où on à lue l'armée des ombres et on fait des "sortis" aux mêmes endroits que ceux présenté dans la video donc, pour mon cas et celui de beaucoup de gens je pense, dire que la résistance Française n'est pas abordé est faux. Aprés je te rejoint sur le fait que le programme d'histoire concernant la seconde guerre mondiale est bien trop court.
@ggousier
@ggousier 6 жыл бұрын
Grenoble fatalement. Le maquis du Vercors je l'ai appris à l'école, tout comme le débarquement de Provence mais c'était il y a 30 ans. Aujourd'hui je vois les programmes d'histoire des gamins il n'y a plus tout ça. Allé si ils vont parler viteuf de Jean Moulin et basta. Je sais pas si tu as vu des épreuves du BEPC histoire c'est une blague ! Quand je l'ai passé il y a 30 ans fallait faire une dissert on est bien loin de ça en 2018.
@corbierehippolyte178
@corbierehippolyte178 6 жыл бұрын
j'ai 16 ans donc j'ai passé le brevet l'an dernier et pour le brevet je suis d'accord, tous le monde l'a il suffit de donné des dates et des noms, et ces dans la poche, en revanche le programme d'histoire, pas que pour la ww2 mais pour toutes les autres périodes, (et c'est encore pire pour la première guerre mondiale en 2 heures on en parlait plus) est trop court on avait pas vraiment le temps de poser nos questions concernant tel ou tel situations car il nous fallait allé toujours plus vite, je suis d'accord avec vous sur ce point. Mais à l'inverse la résistance dans les Alpes on y a consacré du temps, on devait faire un exposé sur au moins trois personnalité de la résistance ayant " donné " leurs nom à des rues de Grenoble et plein trucs extra-scolaire (musés, cites, livres à lire ...). Enfin, je pense que le programme c'est effectivement "dégradé" entre ma et votre génération et que malheureusement ça continueras avec le temps, espérons que non mais bon c'est comme ça ...
@ggousier
@ggousier 6 жыл бұрын
Corbière Hippolyte C'est normal c'est un fait d'armes régional. Par exemple moi je vis en occitanie et certains profs parlent aux gamins des Cathares et des Camisards. Pourquoi ? Parce que ça c'est passé chez nous tout simplement.
@jamesjacocks6221
@jamesjacocks6221 6 жыл бұрын
Grand Gousier As an American francophile I must say that the essential truth of history is safer in the hands of the French than any other nation I can imaging. They are teaching the grand sweep of the war and not currying nationalist sentiment at the cost of truth. Yes, there were many incredibly brave French Resistance but that is a side note the the big events. Merci.
@olafervin
@olafervin 6 жыл бұрын
I never thought that Forgotten Weapons would make me cry. When I think of the true heroism and sacrifice as you describe it I can't stop. Thank you.
@arnaudbrun3934
@arnaudbrun3934 6 жыл бұрын
Incredible, I live 30km from here and I had no idea that a battle of this kind took place in the Vercors, thank you for sharing this story about the Resistance
@BASavage81
@BASavage81 5 жыл бұрын
Ian, dude, you need your own channel on cable TV. I've never seen a person that can present as well you do off the cuff and just tell it like it was. Thanks for presenting everything so clearly.
@Plasma_Pistolier
@Plasma_Pistolier 6 жыл бұрын
Clever quips aside, well done on presenting an incredibly sad and daring tale. 07 I'll be damned, the French Alamo. 10:30 what a bunch of absolute gangsters.
@kevinbock261
@kevinbock261 6 жыл бұрын
I love the history tours, Ian. Not only because you tell the story well, but because we get to actually see for ourselves where the events occured. keep up the great work, Forgotten Weapons rules!
@elzorro9987
@elzorro9987 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am currently reading "Tears of Glory," the book about Vercors that you recommended in another video. There are some impressive examples of courage and dedication by the resistance forces, and of barbarity by the German forces. Thanks for the recommendation.
@lukaszpokoju
@lukaszpokoju 6 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering what was the reaction of french resistant when they saw German paratroopers landing from these gliders and mountain troops coming from nowhere... _"Merde, Antoine! Here come the boches, gimme the Chatellrault!"_
@fm192429
@fm192429 6 жыл бұрын
Chatellerault. In french we simply say " le FM ", abbreviation for " fusil-mitrailleur ", the french word for lightmachinegun.
@pilotedavion6716
@pilotedavion6716 4 жыл бұрын
First they thing it was allies, but when they understand that was german they start to shoot gliders and then run into the maquis
@Otso_66N
@Otso_66N 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, I was there 10 days ago cycling around my family's house.. it's weird to see Ian in places I know well ^^
6 жыл бұрын
Ursus_Martinus beautiful country, your homeland has everything.
@JdeMonster
@JdeMonster 6 жыл бұрын
Ursus_Martinus Ikr, my aunt amd uncle own a place en Chartreuse so it's odd to see Ian where I spent my vacations as a kid.
@Otso_66N
@Otso_66N 6 жыл бұрын
Oldman River Still, you take a bit of time of your life to type about it, you're not hostage of reading the KZbin comment section. Good day to you, eventually.
@rickeyryan303
@rickeyryan303 5 жыл бұрын
@Oldman River i do and so do others, no one cares about you..
@nicolebelgevoyageur6069
@nicolebelgevoyageur6069 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Ian. In the past I happened to know an old man who was part of the résistance in the Vaucluse during ww2 and at the time president of the ANACR from Carpentras for which I was a ceremonial flag bearer for ceremonies in that area. I don't know if he's still alive but I know he wrote a book about the resistance in the area there. He told me himself that he was working on machinery and véhicules often making mistakes to delay the equipment from returning to service. Greetings, Nico
@ianmacfarlane1241
@ianmacfarlane1241 6 жыл бұрын
(13:00) Ian talks about a guy named Chabal - by all accounts a formidable character. It might be a family trait, as the Chabal family name paints a picture of formidable men - take a look at former French rugby legend Sébastien Chabal - the manliest looking man who every lived . On a more serious note, this was a very poignant story - something that Ian managed to capture perfectly.
@aaronpeters4394
@aaronpeters4394 5 жыл бұрын
Been making my way through your catelog of videos over the last few months. This was great! Quite the change of pace. A lot of graphical/animated history shows start to sound like wah wah wah wah wahhhhh a good way into the video. You kept me engaged the whole time. Interesting stuff, keep it up!
@chrissoclone
@chrissoclone 6 жыл бұрын
These history tours are excellent (and this is quite a sad one too), I'm hoping for more content like that.
@TarAldarion42
@TarAldarion42 6 жыл бұрын
French here ! Thanks you for your work, i fuckin' love your forgotten History Series !
@PhotoArtBrussels
@PhotoArtBrussels 6 жыл бұрын
I live in Belgium and i'm very thankful and grateful to all those that fought to win the war. It is unimaginable what the conditions where for the general population and for all those fighting. Thank you to all the men an women that fought for us, and who to this day are in the different armies to defend and protect us.
@EvanLax95
@EvanLax95 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian for this tremendous video. Deeply informative and enthralling. The landscape is breathtaking. It truly demonstrates the brutality and global nature of the 2nd World War. Hard to conceptualize that Ukrainians in the Wermacht fighting in southern France is part of the same conflict as Americans fighting the Japanese in Burma. A great testament to the men and women who died there that more know their story, thanks to you. Vive la France
@BobSmith-dk8nw
@BobSmith-dk8nw 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian for going to all the trouble to do this. This was very well done. .
@gregcameron141
@gregcameron141 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation, very clear on the course of this battle and why it ended the way it did.
@oisinoneill7990
@oisinoneill7990 6 жыл бұрын
Ian this really is fantastic your content is getting better and better. This video told the story of the battle so well and was quite engrossing. Keep em coming!
@pietaushamburch6128
@pietaushamburch6128 6 жыл бұрын
As a german it's so impressive for me to watch your video... Grown up in East Germany we learned a lot about the madness of Nazi terror, about german ressistance, russian, polish, and eastern Europe stands against the Nazis. Learned about the persecution of Jews and resistance fighters... I saw a lot of Hollywoods resistance fight movies too. But I never heard about this special, french part of the resistance. To see the area, where this history took place, to hear the story of growing end ending of the marquise fighters... it's very impressive for me to see. It's a different kind of view, to watch someone, whose intends are not to teach me how to be ashamed as a german, not to entertain me as a movie audience, but just to tell someone an interessting plot of real history in WW2. Thanks a lot! It changed my point of viewing history!
@Christian-gb8nd
@Christian-gb8nd 6 жыл бұрын
Piet AusHamburch I'm French and I really enjoye Ian's WW2 videos. I know nearly nothing about resistance in the rest of Europe, I hope Ian will push his trip outside French border! This kind of external point of view is very nice!
@pietaushamburch6128
@pietaushamburch6128 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, I guess you know more about the resistance than just some french history... How about Schindlers List? Polish Home Army? Warsaw Uprising? Partisan Armies in East Europe? Graf von Stauffenberg? The White Rose? There is a lot of stuff to know about. :-)
@swietoslaw
@swietoslaw 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair Polish or Yugoslavian partisans were much more active and they have much worse occupation then French.
@pietaushamburch6128
@pietaushamburch6128 6 жыл бұрын
I cann't judge this, based on my state of education, 'cause I got mine from east german school system in the 80's. It was pro communist propaganda, at some point. Plus: I was a kid/teenager, when I was tought this stuff. I wasn't able to be critical about the informations I got at this time. Most people talking about this topic nowadays are some kind of nationalists. More or less. I think, theire thoughts and words aren't very neutral too. It's rather difficult for me to come to an rational point of view. BUT: Ian made a good point: the guy who fought the resistance had some special experience with east front partisans. The french were not prepared for him. You can get some conclusions from Ians words.
@BrorealeK
@BrorealeK 6 жыл бұрын
You also have to consider that this is a set piece WW2 battle where the partisans were more experienced with small, harassing attacks on German infrastructure or French collaborators. This was obviously meant to be a distraction, but it seems unlikely that the average French/Spanish Maquisard was corrected when he/she started to act like this was the start of France's liberation.
@CNYahla
@CNYahla 6 жыл бұрын
"On m'a vu dans le Vercors... sauter à l'élastique. Voleur d'amphores au fond des criques..." Awesome video Ian :)
@damien4848
@damien4848 3 жыл бұрын
Bashung, la nuit je mens si je me souviens bien.
@swillm3ister
@swillm3ister 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing and preserving our history, Ian. Safe travels, brother.
@tomalexander4327
@tomalexander4327 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Ian. This one must have taken a lot of work.
@sarjim4381
@sarjim4381 6 жыл бұрын
This was also the last use of gliders by the Germans. Only 12 of the 22 gliders dispatched against Vassieux-en-Vercors actually landed in the right place, with the rest either landing too far to the north or crashing upon landing. Thus, the actual numbers of German troops (who were mostly Russian or Ukrainian) were combat effective upon landing numbered only about 150 of the 400 dispatched. It showed once again why glider operations were just not effective, especially in terms of the numbers of troops lost as part of the operation, and the difficult of piloting gliders to a specific spot. The biggest problem for the Marqui was their almost complete lack of heavy weapons. Air dropping artillery and the attendant ammunition was impossible in 1944, but the air drop operation did include at least 14 British 3" mortars and somewhere between 2 and 5 4.2" mortars, along with at least 150 bombs for each mortar. These should have provided enough mortars to stop or significantly delay the German advance up the Massif. Unfortunately, all those containers, dropped from one B-17, landed among the Germans, who retrieved them and turned the mortars against the Marquis and the civilians in the villages on the plateau. On such events does the turn of many a battle come.
@glapou
@glapou 6 жыл бұрын
Regarding small weapons my grand father told me that it was difficult to get a weapon at that time as it was forbidden. He had to contact really bad guys as the only source available was criminal underworld.
@sarjim4381
@sarjim4381 6 жыл бұрын
Emmanuel, in the early years of the war, the French Milieu was the main source of weapons, just as they had been for all organized crime groups before the war. By mid-1944, the main source of weapons was from dead Vichy and German troops plus raiding police stations and isolated arsenals. The Americans and British dropped many thousands of containers of small arms, mainly Sten guns, plus thousands of pounds of plastic explosives. The problem for the Marqui fighters at Vercors was not a lack of small arms, it was the lack of heavy weapons, as I wrote above.
@EdwardPCampbell
@EdwardPCampbell 6 жыл бұрын
Like the US air drops to the Kurds fighting ISIS in Kobani, 24 October 2014, condemned by Turkey, strangely enough... which had its tank barrels pointing at the Kurds and refused them sanctuary.
@ighmur
@ighmur 6 жыл бұрын
Heavy weapons would have helped to have a better defense (I suppose you think of light machine guns and bazookas), I don't think they would have usage for a canon) but the quality of the troups was lacking anyway, lot of these maquisards in Vercors were young recruits, youg men escaping the forced labour exil to Germany (STO), they faced a greater number of trained soldiers.
@sarjim4381
@sarjim4381 6 жыл бұрын
By heavy weapons in this case I mean light to medium mortars. There was no way to get heavier artillery on the massiv and very few fighters with any training on how to use them anyway. You're correct about the quality of "troops" fighting the Germans. Many of them were excellent guerillas but terrible infantry. The two skill sets are much different. It would have been much better for France, the Allies, and those that died in the battle if they had remained guerrillas. However, that would not have given De Gaulle the propaganda victory he so desperately needed.
@dinlobiscuit4611
@dinlobiscuit4611 6 жыл бұрын
excellent , I had never heard this story despite being a bit of a WW2 nerd , well done Ian , thanks.
@Surv1ve_Thrive
@Surv1ve_Thrive 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and outstanding presentation. My sincere thanks. The forests and mountains around Strasbourg also have tales to tell amongst other areas.
@michaelvinson5481
@michaelvinson5481 6 жыл бұрын
Do we know what happened to U.S. Troopers?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 6 жыл бұрын
They were able to sneak out through the German containment lines and survived.
@michaelvinson5481
@michaelvinson5481 6 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons That’s awesome, thanks
@oli1764
@oli1764 6 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons fantastic video mate, really interesting. Must visit this area of france, my family are southern french but ive only been twice. Must go back.
@johnvorhees443
@johnvorhees443 6 жыл бұрын
i thought they were captured by the gestapo i know of an instence were allied troops were captured and killed never mind it was the britiash sas
@badweetabix
@badweetabix 6 жыл бұрын
They were not just US "troopers" but included British SOE and Free French. There were in fact 3 teams that parachuted at different times into Vercors. Team 1 from OSS operational section Justine: Captain Vernon G. Hoppers, Lieutenant Chester L. Myers, and Sergeant Delmar Calvert and enlisted men: Francis J. Defrane, Robert J. Vanasse, Raymond J. Brochu, Norman J. Harp, Laurence W. Labreck, James W. Murray, Nathan L. Richman, Howard O. Flake, Paul E. Laflamme, Stuart M.Levine, Gaston J. Paquette and Joel J. Picard. Team 2 SOE : British Major Desmond Longe and Captain John Houseman, and two radio operators, American 1st Lt. André Pecquet and French Lt. Jean-Yves Croix. Team 3 Free French: Capitaine Jean Tournissa and a team of 5 including a female radio operator Krystina Skarbeck. OSS survivor Sgt Delmar Calvert was awarded the French Legion d'honneur at Vassieux en Vercors in May 8 2005. There's even a video of the ceremony.
@douglasfrazier811
@douglasfrazier811 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for covering this battle/resistance. I had read about it a number of years ago and researched the geography of the massif. A true story of valor of the Maquis!!
@knockshinnoch1950
@knockshinnoch1950 4 жыл бұрын
An excellent video. I've been fascinated by this battle for many years. The story is heartbreaking. Great to see the locations!
@rickden8362
@rickden8362 4 жыл бұрын
One of the rare times the resistance spent more time fighting the Germans and not each other.
@tillyjow8484
@tillyjow8484 6 жыл бұрын
The ''resistance'' was not a single entity but over a dozen and a half different, ideologically conflicting units, often fighting each other as much as the Germans. At the end of the war deadly vengeance was exacted by these units on each other. By Oct/Nov '44 the allies stopped supplying French resistance w/ arms because they feared a civil war at the of WW2.
@Tackleberry117
@Tackleberry117 6 жыл бұрын
While my friends were watching WWE and Pokemon, I grew up on the History channel. Unfortunately, all of the great historical and military content has been replaced with reality shows. But, as cable gets worse, awesome channels like Forgotten Weapons are stepping up and, I believe, doing an even better job of putting out educational and very entertaining content. Great job Ian, keep it up!
@anchorbait6662
@anchorbait6662 6 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful place to experience such a horrible thing.
@christophercaml3942
@christophercaml3942 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video like this about the Polish resistance
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh 6 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a Polish merchant sailor during the war and recently my mother told me his sister was put up against a wall and shot by the Nazis for being a part of the underground. I replied that it was a bit harsh to shoot her for working on the metro system...............Underground means subway in the UK.......and yes I am pretty stupid.
@asmodeus.morningstar
@asmodeus.morningstar 6 жыл бұрын
Well this is it in a way....one of the MI5 agents in Vercors was Krystyna Giżycka-Skarbek (alias Cristine Granville) She joined MI5 long before there was a polish resistance and she was hated for it :( .
@BlinkyTrigger
@BlinkyTrigger 6 жыл бұрын
Vintage operator series!
@christophercaml3942
@christophercaml3942 6 жыл бұрын
CPT Crunch yeah the Soviets did just wait until most of the Polish word dead they weren't about to give up after only getting there Independence in 1918.
@gerokron3412
@gerokron3412 6 жыл бұрын
The warsaw uprising in 1944 was done without even the smallest prospect of sucess - exept getting help from the Soviets. A second time polish leadership dreamed about Soviet support, a second time it was delusional to do so. I bow deeply to the courage of all the women and men, who fought more than exellent in Warsaw. However, they were let down by their leaders, who had the responsibility for not letting them bleed away to safe polish pride. You cant send your subordinates into sure death and claim afterwards as an excuse, that they died valliantly - as this is not a contradiction.
@yappojilla
@yappojilla 6 жыл бұрын
this might be one of my favorite FW videos Ian. amazing work, thank you!
@carlistasycia
@carlistasycia 6 жыл бұрын
That optimism after D-Day also drove spanish republicans, who had been helping the french resistance, to invade a valley on the spanish side of the Pirenees in an effort to force the allies to help them overthrow Franco's regime. It ultimately failed, in a similar way to the Vercors action.
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 5 жыл бұрын
The fate of the Spanish resistance fighters is doubly sad, many of them fought hard years in pursuit of liberating a country that was not their own - that had actually imprisoned them earlier upon escaping Spain - a lot of Spaniards fought with Leclerc's forces for the same goal. They liberated Paris thinking they'd eventually be liberating Madrid. Many of them, disillusioned, crossed back into Spain and fought an unaided resistance war, one with little hope of success. I believe the last of the organized resistance cells was killed in the early '60's. It's sad that the Western Allies betrayed Spain, in more ways than one. At least the Basque fighters were part of ending the Franco regime once and for all, for whatever that's worth.
@antoinebrg6299
@antoinebrg6299 10 ай бұрын
@@fuzzydunlop7928 Wanna hear about the triply sad story of spanish Barcelona and Valence/Aragon revolutioneers in 1937 ? Forced to be militarized at best, arrested, jailed and tortured by both republicans AND Franco partisans for not wanting to comply to any imperialists camps of the fascist/antifascist opposition, which in their eyes was fake as nothing would change for the workers exploitation in the end anyway.
@boater_rob
@boater_rob 7 ай бұрын
I visited the beautiful Vercors twice on caving holidays in the 90's. It's a very heart-wrenching place, yet astoundingly beautiful, with lovely mountain people. A farmer pointed out an area where there was a cave supposedly used by le Maquis. I found it, a small chamber with remnants of ammunition boxes, seating stones arranged around fire remains. It really was a very powerful place. Our gite owner had lost many family members in the battles, some having barbed wire wrapped tightly around the tops of their skulls. He appeared one day with a rusty Colt revolver, saying it was dropped by the Americans from the skies! The maquis and Vercors inhabitants were certainly very brave people.
@laurentboitouzet9793
@laurentboitouzet9793 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this important and often unknown moment of our history
@brockolive5330
@brockolive5330 6 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, these historical WW2 focused stories are great....you are highlighting lesser known events which is great.
@chuckcochran8599
@chuckcochran8599 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian, for shedding light into a little known, but hard fought battle by the resistance.
@lleger
@lleger 3 жыл бұрын
wow, I’m about to go on a trek through the Vercors and had no idea this happened, great video and great story telling, thanks alot!
@CarlsonWDane
@CarlsonWDane 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! I had heard a little bit about this event, but learning about the Red Cross cave and actually seeing is a whole new level. Thanks Ian!
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you for the tour. I read about some of this before. Seeing the terrain and area gives me a much better appreciation of the events.
@thrasherthetic
@thrasherthetic 6 жыл бұрын
This is probably my favorite forgotten weapons video.
@wanneroo7106
@wanneroo7106 6 жыл бұрын
I had read about the battle at different times over the years, great to actually see what it all looks like on the ground. Great scenery, sad history.
@stnlychrls
@stnlychrls 6 жыл бұрын
I love these vignette's ... these little glimpses into the past... awesome video, awesome job Ian
@MrLukealbanese
@MrLukealbanese 6 жыл бұрын
Ian, my father was a Maquis based out of Grenoble during the war and had a very bad time, of which he would not ever speak. I have his old armband and one or two other things. I wonder if he was involved in this battle? How could I find out? (He's obviously not with us any more)
@Mat-threw
@Mat-threw 6 жыл бұрын
Luke Albanese he never talked about it?
@MrLukealbanese
@MrLukealbanese 6 жыл бұрын
Matt thew not much no. He did mention being trapped in a building brought down by German shelling, and having to hide out in a Convent for a few days while injured but he was very traumatized for the rest of his life sadly, and struggled to get through each and every day.
@MrLukealbanese
@MrLukealbanese 6 жыл бұрын
Matt thew in fact now you mention it my uncles who were involved in heavy combat (British in their cases) were also most reluctant to talk about their experiences, and our 2 school teachers who served with distinction in the RAF would never talk about it either. One was a convinced pacifist when I was at school, so that might tell you something.
@Darelumga
@Darelumga 6 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather flew, as a kid/teenager, for the russian army. He's also never talking about it. Here and there is sometimes a tiny bit about it. I don't want to ask him much because I know that he will suffer from just remembering.
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of people think that somehow the people from that generation did not suffer the traumas from war like we see today - that's totally untrue, they had to suffer in silence. The tragedy of war perpetuates itself.
@LaGuardiaSuiza
@LaGuardiaSuiza 4 жыл бұрын
This is like travel with Rick Steves. Thanks for educating us about these places and personalities.
@ph0kused
@ph0kused 6 жыл бұрын
Love this style of going into these small villages and hearing these incredible stories!
@D45VR
@D45VR 3 жыл бұрын
France has a great variety of terrains and beautiful scenery.
@drmaudio
@drmaudio 6 жыл бұрын
It's nice to have the visuals to go with the book.
@nageeb96
@nageeb96 6 жыл бұрын
Ian McCallum thank you for Amazing videos..best on youtub up to date.i saw all of F W and am amazed by the vast knowledge you got .please keep the good work and we shall keep learning .thanks again.
@greylocke100
@greylocke100 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian. I really enjoy this type of historical walk through.
@egmccann
@egmccann 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I ran across this. One of these days I'll actually manage to visit France (it's a bucket list thing... birthday's July 14, so being there on Bastille day, but there are other places I'd love to see. This is on the list now.) I'd love to see more of these videos. (Hey, maybe do something with the HIstory Guy - the presentation styles, I think, would mesh well.)
@briarus1000
@briarus1000 6 жыл бұрын
great video! not to be flippant but every time i hear maquis i think of star trek voyager. also nice appearance by the cameraman in the map.
@DIY_Miracle
@DIY_Miracle 6 жыл бұрын
Briarus HECATONCHEIRES DEEP SPACE NINE YOU HERETIC
@witeshade
@witeshade 6 жыл бұрын
Seymour Skinner the maquis almost had a bigger role in Voyager than they did in DS9...
@DIY_Miracle
@DIY_Miracle 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel G Nah fair.
@GordonjSmith1
@GordonjSmith1 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, you really taught me something about the war in France. I have worked in Grenoble, but had I realised, I would have travelled down to this area for a better understanding. This compliments your other videos rather well. Perhaps you might provide links to your videos relating to the relevant weaponry as this might 'square the circle' on your research?
@ender25ish
@ender25ish 6 жыл бұрын
These Videos are really great Ian, Its a really beautiful break from Guns themselves and a high quality look at history.
@lagancider6153
@lagancider6153 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating Ian, thanks for that. I’m flying to Nice next week for a family holiday, I can see me disappearing in the hire car leaving everyone else by the pool...
@tombrennan6312
@tombrennan6312 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent. More history and forts, please. Continue to widen your scope.
@trash.3739
@trash.3739 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing, informative video! I think I love these battlefield history videos even more than your gun videos, Ian. Thank you for keeping up on this amazing, high quality & informative channel. Much love from a fellow firearms enthusiast & history nerd.
@JS-ob4oh
@JS-ob4oh 6 жыл бұрын
Ian, since you seem to be doing several Forgotten History regarding France during WW2, how about doing one on what is the last and perhaps the strangest battle of WW2 in Europe - The Battle of Castle Itter?
@Mosca_Tube
@Mosca_Tube 4 жыл бұрын
This video was really well done! A big upgrade in quality compared to your other history videos. Keep it up!!!
@JoshsDigitalinteractions
@JoshsDigitalinteractions 4 жыл бұрын
Bro I like when you show us historical weapons but these tour videos are seriously good who doesn’t love this rich history !
@brianprowse2543
@brianprowse2543 4 жыл бұрын
Love these kinds of historical videos. Will be joining you and Inrange on patreon.
@LeDore38
@LeDore38 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, thx! My great grand father and my grandmother and her fiance were there. The fiance died during the events, she married my grandpa a decade later.
@83gt17
@83gt17 6 жыл бұрын
While I enjoy your weapon reviews, i truly love these history videos. The more you do, the happier I am!
@Patrick_B687-3
@Patrick_B687-3 4 жыл бұрын
I did enjoy this very much. If you ever run out of gun stuff or want to do something else, your history videos are every bit as good. This was terribly brutal at the end, but such is war much too often. Too bad time wasn’t on their side here.
@tomasf247
@tomasf247 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for such an excellent well produced documentary. Much appreciated
@makara80
@makara80 6 жыл бұрын
FYI for everyone but there's a largely forgotten and fairly obscure British TV series from the late 80's/early 90's that dramatised the tragic events in Vercors (albeit with some considerable deviation/artistic licence) called 'Wish Me Luck' that might be of interest. The show ran for three series and it's the third and final series that features a heavily fictionalised account of resistance in Vercors - renamed 'Le Crest' in the series. As I say though "heavily fictionalised" so don't expect a history lesson, plus the show's visibly tight budget may dissuade some! The series itself primarily focused on the activities, exploits and hardships of female SOE operatives dropped into France and is, imo, really good and surprisingly dark at times. It also benefits from being made in an era when this sort of subject matter was still quite novel and made for the best of reasons (I.e. mercifully unencumbered by trite ideological agendas sadly so endemic in film/television these days ;)). Anyways, definitely recommended if you can find it.
@John-ro3vu
@John-ro3vu 6 жыл бұрын
I like these videos so much, I upped my Patreon contribution.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mjb83usmc-ret35
@mjb83usmc-ret35 6 жыл бұрын
You do such an awesome job on these videos! Thank You.
@cozmcwillie7897
@cozmcwillie7897 4 жыл бұрын
Ian, Karl, there's another little known story about the French Resistance. It would be excellent if you could do a piece on it. (maybe you have) On D-Day and for 24 or 48 hours following, 21 fighters managed somehow to hold back one or more divisions of SS tanks from getting through to the Normandy beaches; the outcome of which would've been most seriously grave. Knowing this, they fought until only one man was left alive; at which point the Allies had established their beachhead. These men possibly women too deserve to be more widely remembered.
@ah9338
@ah9338 4 жыл бұрын
This place is HOME
@HouseholdDog
@HouseholdDog 6 жыл бұрын
MORE OF THESE PLEASE!
@mrbigsert
@mrbigsert 6 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video! Love the on location stuff you’ve been doing. Keep up the good work!
@piatpotatopeon8305
@piatpotatopeon8305 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing their story. I never knew about this, and don't think I ever would have found out about it other than your explanation here.
@Shiekism
@Shiekism 6 жыл бұрын
I love these Forgotten History vids you've been making. Keep up the amazing work!
@Whitpusmc
@Whitpusmc 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the history lesson!
@nassirahmad4873
@nassirahmad4873 5 жыл бұрын
That was fascinating. I really enjoy your Forgotten History videos. 👍
@kiandocherty3589
@kiandocherty3589 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking at that cave and going "Oh wow that would be such a cool place to hide out and survive against the Nazis." then Ian starts talking about fate of them...
@ydnanosneb
@ydnanosneb 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with lol7able, these history tours by Ian are awesome. I hate tours when I travel, but I'd go on one from Forgotten History..............
@garyneilson1833
@garyneilson1833 6 жыл бұрын
Great talk on this battle, thanks Iain
@onsesejoo2605
@onsesejoo2605 6 жыл бұрын
It is interesting to read fighter pilot Pierre Clostermann's comment in his book The Big Show about the attitudes of the people in France immediately after the Germans surrendered, hearing statements like "You have done nothing, where were you when.." and so on.
@garrytuohy9267
@garrytuohy9267 3 жыл бұрын
I was told about this while driving up into the Vercors and I could easily imagine a Resistance Force holding out up there. But I was left with the impression that they held out for much longer.
@stormthrush37
@stormthrush37 2 ай бұрын
Kinda crappy no one from the Allies told them they wouldn't be coming to their aid. Of course these guys tying up 10,000 enemy troops, equipment, and all the support to go with it far away from the front lines had to be helpful for the Allies, less men and resources for them to have to fight all at once there.
@jeffreyl.7210
@jeffreyl.7210 6 жыл бұрын
Are you a former history teacher? It quite obvious that is your passion, at least weapons and military history. Love your videos! 👍
@comiketiger
@comiketiger 3 жыл бұрын
I knew a man who was in the French Resistance in WW2. He was a fine likable man. He wouldnt talk much about it. But then I was just a kid who maybe didnt ask the right questions. RIP.
@Doctoranthetardis
@Doctoranthetardis 4 жыл бұрын
I went hiking on the pass near Mont Aiguille in France and saw where some of those french fighters had their last stand... they have a beautiful monument up there.
@johnstacy7902
@johnstacy7902 6 жыл бұрын
Although the French might have lost the Battle they did help tie up a lot of elite German Troops
@Taxandrya
@Taxandrya 6 жыл бұрын
All occupied countries did help tie up elite German troops. What's your point?
@johnstacy7902
@johnstacy7902 6 жыл бұрын
Baptist E. Most of the occupation troops were pretty much shulbs
@Taxandrya
@Taxandrya 6 жыл бұрын
John Stacy Yes, like in each occupied country as well. Anyways...
@TheAngler2210
@TheAngler2210 6 жыл бұрын
yes 400 soldiers for like 2 days. what an incredible success for the french "resistance".
@lsq7833
@lsq7833 6 жыл бұрын
TheAngler2210 did you miss the 20 000 troops involved you moronic halfwit?
@CmonDudes
@CmonDudes 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing content Ian.
@HUMPFunkWorthy
@HUMPFunkWorthy 4 жыл бұрын
Truly grotesque. Very well done.
@maxhimum6488
@maxhimum6488 3 жыл бұрын
You talk of you ?
@dakuru
@dakuru 6 жыл бұрын
my grandfather was in the maquis in Britany, you should come by, there's a lot of history there too, lots of Brits parachuting ops and oss black camps
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