Forgotten Megami Tensei Demons

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The Persona and Megami Tensei games have hundreds of recruitable, fusible, and summonable monsters to use in-game. Most of then are featured in every game, but some have only made appearances in a few old games, and have never appeared in any of the recent games. In this video I look at some of the older forgotten demons that I want to see come back as demons or personas in future games.
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[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

"I don't think it's important for Pixie to be in the next game" Don't you dare say that

[@muthesquirrel]

She wasn't in Digital Devil Saga 2 I believe.

[@nobreluan4578]

But i miss her super version with higher stats and megidolaon

[@yemmohater2796]

Andy Semple I was about to play it and now I’m considering otherwise

[@hoonterofhoonters6588]

"SMT doesn't have waifus like Persona." "We need Pixie in SMTV or we riot." This is your brain on Nocturne.

[@YBPaladin]

The worst option

[@BillyFrost1865]

nyarly: "pls return maria and adam kadmon" atlus: "okay"

[@amsyukine4642]

+Cthulhu ?

[@goroakechi6126]

And if you buy two, you get Cinderella and Azathoth free!

[@PissedGrunty]

@@amsyukine4642 P5 Royal includes both.

[@butterflyenjoyer230]

@@goroakechi6126 hey arent you de- wait wrong game

[@PhoenixNoKiseki]

@@goroakechi6126 want some pancakes?

[@tjhunter9787]

Terminator is literally the "parry this you f*cking casual" meme incarnate.

[@akirathewildcard9625]

Pixie: *weak to gun* Terminator: say no more

[@MiguelAngel-go4ck]

Terminator is the real chad of SMT, Not lucifer nor the messiahs nor YHVH but the chad ass angel with dual big guns.

[@NEEDbacon]

Also is basically Pelinal Whitestrake from Elder Scrolls lore. Except actual guns instead of a laser cannon.

[@GummyBearRoman]

A true rocket knight

[@robinskiiv4035]

"Christianity is the most represented religion in SMT" *screams in Shintoism"

[@danwithaplan3742]

Hinduism would like to chat

[@lolikumadesbear1999]

@@danwithaplan3742 I agree. Hinduism is probably the most represented religion. Look at the names of skills/moves, Shiva, Vishnu...especially the Digital Devil Saga-games😊

[@Ben-fx9kx]

What about Norse?

[@everythingisfine8635]

Ben I mean Norse is up their but I’m pretty sure their more Shinto or Hindu figures

[@ZoanBlade90]

@@lolikumadesbear1999 Isn't Megido Latin for armageddon?

[@krmdagger1126]

Why is there a demon dual wielding the Ak-47's

[@kaijutamerpat]

Because my dear Speedwagon it's metal af.

[@krmdagger1126]

Bancho Pat if area 51 had actually stored demons or aliens we would probably see Terminator (the SMT one) and yeah

[@marunomi]

That's an M-16 and SPAS-12.

[@douchebagbrigade]

Cuz SMT Bruh

[@douchebagbrigade]

He evolved in smt nocturne to become Dante from the devil may cry series lol

[@Zeturic]

My favorite SMT demon is Hatsune Miku.

[@sashisuugi4944]

Featuring Dante from devil may cry

[@darkyagami3503]

Op

[@reilly5005]

Mine is dante from devil may cry 1

[@someonehere9778]

I prefer the unused Mickey and Donald from SMT 1. Yeah. You didn't read wrong. Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck.

[@darkyagami3503]

@@someonehere9778 wtf

[@lmemh3737]

Adam Kadmon appears in p5r, Atlus recognized his existence

[@Royy2004]

Appears is an understatement

[@lmemh3737]

@@Royy2004 when I wrote this it wasn't out here yet, so I had to make it vague

[@Royy2004]

@@lmemh3737 fair

[@rayvenkman2087]

And what an appearance...

[@sam_awkward8149]

"Adam kadmon" *Laughs in Persona 5 royal* Edit: He even mentions maria in the same sentence lmao. Royal stays winning

[@l30ng62]

And Royal even got Azathoth. Someone who is also SEVERELY underused And last appeared ONCE in Giten Megami tensei. Even though he is THE creator off the entire lovecraft mythos he got only one off Note appereance. Hell he is Nyarlatotheps DAD. So Yeah even if Nyarlatothep didnt return we got his Dad which is still pretty cool in my book:)

[@sam_awkward8149]

@@l30ng62 and the usage of them is amazing too. In the lovecraftian lore the entire world is azathoths dream and if he wakes up reality vanishes and now we put this in the context of royal and HOOOOO BOY

[@masanobumaou]

Just fits too perfectly :D

[@TheWonkster]

Paul Grzeski *universe and reality itself.

[@yaboittash]

I was ABOUT to say this lmao

[@boneheaded8919]

The only demon I want to see in newer games is MA BOI, DANTE FROM THE DEVIL MAY CRY SERIES Edit: DANTE IS OFFICIALLY DEAD! WE NOW STAN FOR RAIDOU OF THE RAIDOU KUZUNOHA SERIES! Edit Edit: Yeah I know that Dante is DLC. But he's just that. A DLC. Just a choice to get him or not

[@cynic_0546]

I love it

[@divinerydia8765]

Ummm if they bring him can we get Bayonetta

[@jang2241]

Well... he is in Dx2. With Nero and V

[@homers1999]

You get smt 3, that's all you get. Raidou is better~

[@dc7981]

@Reborn In Rationality cope

[@eyalnatan1862]

Fun fact: Adam kadmon means primitive human in Hebrew and is also the term for Neanderthal in Hebrew Source: I’m Israeli

[@douchebagbrigade]

Eyal Natan very cool thanks for the explanation. Puts a completely different take on the demon and makes him seem less perfect if in Neanderthal form due to the inability to compete with cromagnon

[@smug_slime]

Speaking of adam kadmon, guess who's coming to P5R?

[@passonthestar3689]

My condolences

[@rashidisw]

"Kadmon",.... its not a Digimon monster?

[@nyarlathotep-thecrawlingch6335]

Are any of you guys Playing Royal? I would say a Spoiler of the New Palace,but I don't want to destroy anyone's experience of the Game

[@5h3nn0ng]

I wish more Lovecraftian characters were added. Theres a game Im playing, and they depict Azathoth as a man on a throne in a comastose-like state with VR headsets, and he interacts with the world through a hologram.

[@5h3nn0ng]

@@PoetOfElysium Do you know Tokyo Afterschool Summoners? The design of Azathoth is a bit controversial though

[@RandomAnagram.]

Nyarlathotep was in some games at times with different renderings. c:

[@stormvolt9797]

Agreed. Im glad Futaba kinda got that in P5 with Necronomicon, but more is definitely in order.

[@Rougealienpirate]

Ugh. I hate that they have a bunch of shota artists drawing some of the characters.

[@NIHIL_EGO]

I wasn't expecting someone referencing TAS here. Though I'm pretty sure that at least one of the writer at Life Wonders is a SMT fan.

[@daehan8227]

A character that needs to come back is definitely Philemon. Knowing that he can summon himself as a persona as well during superboss. Not to mention that he stands against Nyarlathotep in the duology. Philemon as super boss needs to return.

[@blaze45ful]

Agree, he's suppose to be watching the event as a butterfly in the Persona 3,4,5. But i want to see his true form again.

[@daehan8227]

@@blaze45ful yeah ikr? Though it would a dream come true to hear a remix of his badass boss theme. Having a fight against Naoya Toudou, Tatsuya Suou, Maya Amano and Philemon would so insane

[@daehan8227]

@@nelosparda4798 yeah it would be. Though wouldn't Maya be technically the strongest fighter knowing Philemon can only be fought in Eternal Punishment? In a weird way (knowing the lore) Tatsuya is Maya's bitch. I would love to see Maya, Tatsuya, and Naoya return as super bosses regardless if they are individuals or as a team. Though it would be weird seeing any other persona protagonist like Itsuki Aoi(Tms) or Kazumi Kiba(P2 Crime + Punishment), or Shin Kazato (P3 Trinity Soul) since this is persona's 25th-anniversary title. Or maybe teasing everyone with a superboss based on the P6's protag? Who knows.

[@Fermin-hw5pd]

@@daehan8227 having the P1 and P2 protagonists as super bosses would be nice as P5Royal did it (only with Minato and Yu, plus being dlc, but well)

[@BaoZakeruga]

"I was originally drawn in by the anime aesthetic and dating sim elements. But after playing it I quickly began to appreciate it not just for that but also for the combat, but for the personas." Wow, that's exactly how it was for me. I just happened to have a big interest in mythology in general all my life so I had so much fun reading all the compendium entries and learning about the different figures from different mythologies. Oh god, that Bael design.

[@douchebagbrigade]

BaoZakeruga similar minus the dating that was kind of a means to an end to get a boost but it was still fun just sometimes you sit there waiting for the social links to end so you can get back to the action

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

I love megaten for that fact that the pokemon aspect is very much a amazing battle mechanic

[@queenismyfavoriteband9904]

69th like wheres my prize

[@chazzwozzio]

Oh same here. Came for the waifus stayed for the demons

[@nerothewateruser8030]

@@chazzwozzio just get yourself a demon waifu

[@Charle_Z]

I hope SMT V uses a lot of these unused/less common demons

[@ahmedfalahy9337]

Wait for SMTV to bring a DLC expansion similar to Pokemon Sword/Shield that brings a new area and demons who didn't make it in the vanilla game

[@paulrosca6264]

@@ahmedfalahy9337 wait for smt v to have an official release date

[@ra_0374]

@@paulrosca6264 we atleast have a simultaneous release year set now

[@EtherealMystic]

Jayden Meyer now all we need is unused demons

[@ra_0374]

@@EtherealMystic I wanna see spas-12 wielding crusader back

[@maurogonzalez6242]

The Messiah Terminator was a key player in my second SMT II run to save Magnetite. It was super easy to fuse with the overlevel fusions of humans, it had good attacks and was fast enough to finish most enemies. With tarukaja it was a killing machine, alongside the Assasin of Gaea, Aleph and Hiroko they cleared most mobs with ease until the abyss.

[@_GLXC]

i remember not needing demons for a huge portion of the game because I found some weapon called Lions War Fan way back in the roppongi area, which made most demon encounters easy without demons until the demons start reflecting physical around the lucifer palace area

[@emiljansson02]

Wow, they really did bring back Adam Kadmon

[@somerandomjester4403]

I personally want a new Demon to be made. Typhon. For those of you who don’t know, Typhon is the Greek King of Monsters, and the husband of Echidna. Some of the tales of Typhon depict him being confined by Zeus (who should also come back) in Arimi in Cilicia, or under Mount Etna. He was apparently the cause of eruptions for this, which is why he became the personification of eruptions. He’s the father of Cerberus, The Hydra, and Chimera. He was also the father of winds, also called typhoons by Britannica (where I sourced most of this from). Why do I bring this up? Simple. To explain what his skills would be: Physical (reasons.), Fire (Agi), And Wind (Garu). If this was Persona Talk, he would be weak to Electric, Absorb Curse, Repel Nothing, Null Fire, and be resistant to Wind and Nuclear. Sorry if this sounds dumb. EDIT: A correction, I personally want a Demon to RETURN. Typhon appeared in a few games.

[@seth7726]

It could be possible since we already got Echidna in SMT 1 as an important boss

[@vr8652]

We should get Tartarus, not the locale form, but the primordial titan form that is Tartarus. It'd be bones and flesh with an almost mechanical body. It'd have vertically positioned mouths all over its body like Picasa, with teeth being displayed all over like porcupine needles. I'd want it to be real disgusting and dark to fit the mood of the abyss titan.

[@dantemustdie00]

Typhon does appear in IMAGINE but unfortunately he's just a clone of Pendragon (or rather the original Fafnir design).

[@nerobiblios4086]

We already did kinda get Zeus in PQ so Typhon isn't a stretch.

[@deciduous_reaper]

I do hope Typhon becomes a really strong Demon since he fought against Zeus and he is quite powerful in Greek mythology

[@lucidlullaby894]

>”Remove crappier Fallens” >Halphas *First of all how dare you*

[@knightornstein5902]

Second of all HOW DARE YOU.

[@mystikx2205]

Third of all.....meh, that's fair.

[@valllllleeeeeeerrrrriiiee]

Haha bird with sword

[@knightornstein5902]

@@valllllleeeeeeerrrrriiiee yes

[@Bongyes]

Honestly i cannot think of crappier fallen, the competition is that stiff... I would choose Decarabia but people seem to like it a lot

[@seth7726]

It's pretty funny to see some MegaTen games avoiding the M rating despite having kinda mature themes and a lot of unappropriate demon designs even for teens (Devil Survivor 1 and 2, SMT Dx2, Strange Journey Redux in Europe, Persona 1 and 2 remakes). Regarding the demons, it got me very interested in other religions and cultures. I'm also more appreciative toward artists and popular art in general. Kaneko we miss you so much!!

[@JoshArtisto]

@Reborn In Rationality Ikr? They censor nipples on female demons but a phallus is perfectly fine. -_-

[@enzoidd]

Bruh Kaneko is still the lead demon designer wym

[@maxleon61702]

There's a reason for this because of well, two words: Values Dissonance.

[@unknownuser494]

Revelation persona was surprisingly k-A rated (E-rated).

[@diegoguerra7603]

one i think that should return is "Agony", he is literally jesus christ, and he only appeared in the first Devil Summoner...

[@vr8652]

They kinda made him in another form as Messiah from Persona 3. It's both his passion form and pure form at the same time (like with white robes and a golden crucifix on his back)

[@dantemustdie00]

That's only if they bring back the Undead race which Agony was a part of.

[@nerobiblios4086]

He could, but unfortunately if said game ever comes to the west it's going to censor him to an extent. Puritans would call it satanic or some shit.

[@vr8652]

@@nerobiblios4086 No Puritan has really touched Atlus. Even with all the nagging of Kasumi's Phantom Suit in P5R, (despite her being a ballerina wearing the traditional ballerina dress) she's still dressed as shown at release. They haven't censored Joker's ultimate persona (being Satanael) or other Satanic-esque demons in SMT for western audiences, including Satan himself.

[@V.VIIIBeanman]

@@vr8652 That's cuz SMT/Persona is only followe by it's fans. Pokemon and Yu Gi Oh was popular, on TV, and had merchandise everywhere so it was easily attacked for lesser offenses. You only gonna know about Sataneal or Agony IF you actually play those games or follow SMT. Plus nowadays it's a waste of energy as a Christian to "attack" specific videogame media. Another thing is Pokemon and Yu Gi Oh was marketed to kids. We Christians try to keep our kids pure.

[@Demi-kid]

Oh man these demons in SMT 5 would be sick.

[@trickster5941]

YeAh LiKe PiXiE

[@Ulqui_210]

Glad to see some of them return either in P5R and/or SMT5.

[@LCCrolux]

It was nice to see Adam Kadmon return with a story role in Persona 5 Royal and for Camael to return along some other old demons in SMT V

[@thestrange2742]

And we got some new ones like lahmu mananaggal idun ativaras and we got a Better redesign of Artemis

[@RaidenTheRipper88]

This dude predicted Adam Kadmon in Royal

[@Kyoukichi]

Or he simply had the info about the game before it was released in Japan. "Persona 5 Royal has been released for the PlayStation 4 in Japan on October 31, 2019." So actually, some people played it already before the release date and finished it, especially the press.

[@RaidenTheRipper88]

@@Kyoukichi can you just let me believe? :( plus he doesn't mention it so I doubt he knew about it

[@simon133000]

So, actually he predicted Maria and Adam Kadmon

[@Kyoukichi]

Or he simply had the info about the game before it was released in Japan. "Persona 5 Royal has been released for the PlayStation 4 in Japan on October 31, 2019." So actually, some people played it already before the release date and finished it, especially the press.

[@MinniMaster]

#BringBackNationalCompendium

[@spookable3873]

Fr tho, imagine an smt game with everyone in it

[@mirraisnow6050]

@@spookable3873 do you really want the smt4dlc recolors and the drag queen from soul hackers back?

[@spookable3873]

@@mirraisnow6050 yes

[@l30ng62]

Well Adam kadmon got his Time to shine in P5R. Which is pretty cool Honestly.

[@meghanstewart7630]

The entire comments section be like ‘BUT ADAM KADMON-‘

[@daichinoire757]

0:39 Fun fact, The artist of Digimon (That still drawing for Digimon) said that he's a great fan lf Shin Megami Tensei amd that an amount of Shin Megami Tensei demons were his inspiration.

[@deoidrelewiszx7554]

That's cool 😄

[@akirathewildcard9625]

No you're lying thats to cool to be true

[@darkrulerbob]

One of my buds took ancient history in college. He used some info from persona 3 on his final paper to get an a.

[@amarionm5675]

Adam kadmon huh... looks like he did come back, in a super important way as well, but spoilers so lets just be happy he actually did get recognized, even if it isnt actually in mainline SMT

[@ceejaytwoyoshi8536]

When is H.P Lovecraft's pet cat gonna be in an SMT game?

[@ShinDSER]

Maybe he'd transport the enemy to Paris by using his strongest skill.

[@cidredwood6170]

I don't see why Atlus wouldn't bring back the movie characters, being how the literal second persona found in the entirety in P5 is *ZORRO*

[@darienb1127]

Actually, most of the main personas of P5 are based on either a charatcer from a story, or a real person. Personas like Arsene, Milady, Robin Hood, and Carmen are all from famous works of fiction; and Personas like Goemon and Captain Kidd were real people.

[@numebernode]

@Cid Redwood If Persona Q2 had the horror labyrinth that was in the drawing board, I think it would be cool seeing the some Shadows based on the movie characters seen in SMT.

[@williamsloan9530]

@@numebernode That was the original Persona Q. Q2 didn't have a horror labyrinth.

[@jackiecozzie4803]

@William Sloan They said "on the drawing board". It didn't have one in the final game but they thought about it.

[@someguyparagon5273]

I think one particular demon that should've been in the recent SMT 4 and Apocalypse was Doppelganger. It felt really weird in strange journey to see the main character as a random encounter what with his one eye/crazy smile.

[@Royy2004]

Oh, adam kadmon came back alright

[@MexicanDragon2000]

16:01 - 16:07 Not to mention, some of those demons also appear in Shin Megami Tensei Liberation D×2, which is also rated Teen.

[@jaderabbit898]

Double fact on censorship on the game: Dx2 ever since the Bayonetta re-run delved into more ‘colorful’ words to use and yet still maintain the 12+ rating.

[@lordizanagi8987]

Ok gonna mythology nerd here gonna nitpick on a few things. First off SMT's version of Baal is based on Hadad, the Semitic storm god, who, generally speaking would be considered the head of his specific pantheon. Though who the head of almost any given pantheon is going to depend on where in the world you are and what time period you're in, which is why in a specific passage of the Bible Dagon is sort of treated as the chief god of the Philistine pantheon, which is largely the same as the Semitic pantheon, as pretty much all of the Mesopotamian pantheons are interrelated, and even the Greek pantheon derives a lot from them. Now Beelzebub, despite popular belief is not based on Hadad(the most common god associated with the title Baal, so it's an easy mistake to make), but rather a different god called Baal Zebul. Baal Zebul isn't the most well documented god, but what we've gathered from the name(Baal Zebul means Lord of the High Place, probably), the region he was worshipped in, and the Bible story he's named in, Baal Zebul is a god of healing/disease worshipped by the Philistines at mountaintop shrines. This does put him in the same pantheon as Hadad(sort of) but it does mean the whole thing about Baal being Beelzebub in SMT4 is kind of off base. Good video though, I liked your picks.

[@lucinae8512]

16:20 Headphones users, please turn down the volume for this.

[@kukuru3kaplay929]

Ouch.

[@nonagon6071]

Thank you

[@zomboids2100]

Filthy sinners. You cannot comprehend *[electronic record scratch noise]* and you should feel shame for living such blasphemous lives.

[@someguy4405]

Spike Spiegel No.

[@sethbuckles3474]

I mean, Adam kadmon technically made a comeback lol

[@onewingedren2228]

Terminator should be the "Dante" from SMT V

[@Ordensai]

NINE's Adam is the biblical Adam, not Adam Kadmon. It's an incredibly common mistake thanks to the wiki's article, which has erroneous information that no one's ever bothered to correct. The design alone makes it obvious if you compare it to Eve's, and you can easily check it in gameplay videos, official guide scans and Japanese wikis.

[@superbad8008]

Beetlejuice was in a Shin Megami game? Holy shit that’s awesome.

[@jimphoenix494]

The funny thing is, my intense interest in mythology was started by Persona 2

[@dantemustdie00]

It is outright odd that Leviathan hasn't appeared properly in a Megaten game yet alart from Demi-kids, same said for Posiedon and Hades. And I agree, they should rotate the Fallen and Tyrant race demons around more often cause theirs so many of them, I would kill to have Bael, Arioch, and Dagon back.

[@tatsuyasuou3368]

Why is that odd? We all know Demi Kids is THE GAME to be represented in I mean like if you ain’t in it you aren’t a cool demon.

[@andremelo1670]

@@tatsuyasuou3368 agreed

[@demi-femme4821]

Hades got to be Eikichi's Persona (which is a pretty sick rendition), but he needs more.

[@Sarah12471]

Honestly it's weird how two of the big three have only one time apart from Demi-kids

[@johnli.notlee]

It's sprites are used in Soul Hackers as a Zedd form :o

[@SynysterProjects]

Hey, at least you got ONE of your wishes, with Adam Cadmon in P5R!!!

[@ultimatedeath316]

*Adam Kadmon Sorry I'm a grammer nazi

[@ShinDSER]

@@ultimatedeath316 For a grammar nazi, you seem to make uncharacteristic typos. GrammEr? Seriously?

[@FentyMixx]

I really hope to see Nyarlathotep return

[@geo1136]

He must be happy that Adam Kadmon is back

[@kelldilv]

"Judeo-Christian" you mean Abrahamic, as Islam shares these same general mythologies and stem-spiritualities.

[@cottonbuddy]

Still waiting mohammad to get incorporated to the smt world

[@thetechnerd1617]

@@cottonbuddy Yeah, imagine the outrage. No way this would happen lol

[@AdumbroDeus]

This. It's sooo frustrating because it presumes that there's a lot more shared than there actually is, and it ends up leaving people more confused because a lot of this he should've specified Christian or Jewish because they're not shared elements so leaves people more confused (and even with shared elements there are often vastly different interpretations). Islam and Judaism are far closer and still, Judeo-Islamic isn't a thing. Also, talking about Islamic specific things and contrasting Islamic depictions of shared elements would be cool, hell, maybe even talk about lesser known Abrahamic religions. But nah, reflexive supersessionism ftw!

[@frds_skce]

@@cottonbuddy Ehh... I wouldn't suggest that. As i could say you could touch anything in Islam as long as it's not Allah or Muhammad. Aside that, it's fair game but there's nothing much to work with since Islam's mythology is similar to the bible's old testament. But muslim are very strict when it comes to religion. Maybe if Atlus were to make demon out of Islam, they could take one of the prophet. For example: Musa/Moses, Isa/Jesus, or Habil and Qabil (The two sons of Adam & Eve. I believe they are known as Cain & Abel in Bible) So yeah, some will get mad. But as long as you don't touch Allah, it's good

[@pepperonidrizzle2401]

He's not exactly forgotten but I would LOVE to see Dagda appear in SMTV, he's only appeared in Demikids, the P2 trilogy and we can't forget his appearance in Apocalypse, the thing is he's not obtainable in Apocalypse so I really wanna see him with his Apocalypse design as an obtainable demon in the next game, maybe they'll even add him to Dx2 TL;DR: I'm a big Dagda stan and I hope he'll appear in the next game or at the very least, Dx2

[@LS-gc8bj]

Heck yes! And Danu! I really wanted both of them on my first playthrough till i realized i can't have them.

[@KazShiro]

Sorry to disappoint atleast danus in it

[@lostboy3516]

I’d like to see them bring Bug back from the original Megami Tensei. It was a funny joke demon based on a glitchs in video games and appears, intentionally, as a glitched placeholder sprite. Otherwise I’d be down for more Native American, Hawaiian, or urban legend demons/personas. Also, it’d be neat to see character personas in mainline SMT as demons. Persona 5 has me wishing for more fictional story characters to be featured as demons like Snow White, Petter Pan or Humpty Dumpty. I’d definitely love to see the Mad Hatter or Cheshire Cat in addition to Alice.

[@Juno__Music]

Nyarly: please return Camael Atlus (SMT V): ok 👍

[@Stoltzy92]

One design that I haven't seen but I desperately want to see realized is a design that I heard Kaneko thought of for Lucifer. I remember having heard him say that in all the SMT games we haven't seen what Lucifer REALLY looks like. A design that kaneko described as a combination of his angelic and demonic forms with 12 wings to boot. To address something real quick, no, I am not counting the ugly ass design from SMT IV with those freaking light rays meant to be his "wings". I love the two SMT IV games but fuck that design. Merkabah's design was far better anyway in comparison. I only ever got to FIGHT against Lucifer in Nocturne and in DS1: Overclocked, but I want to have the full on SMT2/MT2 Experience with him since we never got to have that in any official capacity here in the west. I want him to come back in a big way with the design Kaneko mentioned, I doubt it would happen but a guy can dream. Btw I also want Ophanim to come back, grew to really like the design when I used him in Persona Q2.

[@fervcorsica3358]

"Light rays"?? wasnt that supposed to be part of the chair he is sitting on?

[@Stoltzy92]

@@fervcorsica3358 I believe you are right, those were meant to represent his "wings" in the design, or so I have heard.

[@Tidemkeit]

Well, I hope you've played SMT V, my dude

[@limbobilbo8743]

“Adam kadmon could be used in some story way” *THROW AWAY YOUR MASK PLAYS*

[@marisolgarcia8182]

That was epic

[@bramblefur12]

I do want to say this was a very cool video I learned a lot I feel! Also Alice's adventures in wonderland the original book is in public domain so that's one reason she can be recurring, Disney only own *their* version of Alice. Alice herself can be used by anyone in any media they like :3 I do think Frankenstein's monster should come back too...I mean he's in public domain as well. Also Audrey would make the musical buff in my very happy.

[@HairyOreo]

Fun Fact, one of these demons come back in Persona 5 Royal.

[@Youhadabadday2021]

Make that two, with Adam Kadmon and Mariah/Virgin Mary

[@vladimircala4566]

How cuold you forget Mr.Thriller aka Michael Jackson

[@nemopotato4212]

I'm really hoping for a remake of SMT I & II now that the west is more invested in the franchise.

[@nerothewateruser8030]

I'd appreciate that; it would both introduce people who haven't used translated roms of them to the start of smt, and it would be a chance to balance the games (the encounter rates, the dungeon design, etc.)

[@Locaneo]

I'm so sick of Metatron's design. Satan and Lucifer have gotten several redesigns and they've all been great. Why won't they give Metatron one?? Metallic angel with green bug eyes is tired.

[@ilovetweek000]

Locaneo kind of unpopular opinion

[@mastemathedank4043]

Speak for yourself. I want my multi-titty bug wing waif back.

[@BlueMageDaisen]

Ophanim there is a weird one SInce thats actually a Cherub's appearance in that design, meanwhile an Ophan's more common name is a Throne, which we do see often in the series

[@ZetaMAGES]

I think Shadow would make an excellent god boss for Persona. Like the controller of all Shadows.

[@Sanodi21]

It's super neat seeing the huge range of demons the series has, but in the end, you always fall towards the Fiends and Tyrants or specific big names like Metatron, Huang Long/Kohryu, Shiva, etc. Also, saying no Pixie is such a grave sin that you're getting Satan called on you

[@Draconated]

>no Turbo-Granny For shame. A nice idea for a video, though. Good job.

[@voltwolf9839]

They're adding cherub in smt vengence with a slightly tweaked design so hopefully we might see the other angels too

[@steveminecraft8573]

...Adam kadmon you say?

[@faidou9954]

11:00 DEUS VULT

[@Aurafight]

11:42

[@cunnyman]

For the pope

[@CaptainOcelot42000]

My favorite SMT Demon is George W. Bush

[@magicalpasta5462]

For Alice, Alice from Alice and Wonderland is technically public domain because fairy tales. No one not even Disney can copyright classic fairytales. So atlus can use their Alice anytime they want because heck there's an Alice and Wonderland musical 70's porno parody

[@hereticFox716]

A... 70's porno parody? How dare you infect me with this knowledge

[@ZoanBlade90]

11:14 Objection, your Honor. The theme from Shin Megami Tensei IV was of the Samurai, and their discovery of what knowledge the church was holding from them. Why NOT add this guy as either a recruitable demon, and have the story reason be that he defected from the Samurai after learning the truth?

[@HammerspaceCreature]

You flashed an image of Alice as a example of copyright issues but that's exactly the opposite. Alice in Wonderland was written in the Victorian era so it's public domain like many of the early Disney adaptaions. That's why things like American Mcgee's Alice exist and why she shows up in various Japanese media. Alice is literally a public domain loli.

[@nintenx1235]

Cthulhu: exists Isabeau: I’ve read enough manga to know where *this* is going

[@wardrobewings8000]

10:30 Alice is in the public domain. Frankenstein on the other hand is a complicated issue. The book itself is in the public domain, but I think Universal Studios still holds rights to Frankenstein which means that in theory, Atlus could end up in court over one character. Same goes for Rocky Horror Picture Show- the movie itself is in the public domain, but certain elements are still tightly held by the right owners. I imagine the reason why Alice of all reference demons ended up as a reoccurring character is lolicon. She is a cute-creepy underage girl. She fits as both a wink toward fans of the series and reoccurring element of horror. I agree Terminator should return. Terminator is the perfect example of how can you take the idea behind character a character and mold it into something that is both familiar and at the same new. If it wasn't for the name I don't think I would make the connection between character and reference, but at the same time reference enriches the character. As for Cthulhu? IMHO I would much prefer if Atlus went for less known characters from Cthulhu mythos.

[@GuyWhoWatchesStuff]

Atlas watching this video: 8:15 I could make a final boss out of this

[@michaeledmunds7056]

SMT 3 edgelord: "I'm going to side with Lucifer." Terminator: *Holy music stops*

[@NintendanGX]

I'd love to see Suijin, the Shinto god of water, appear as a demon in SMT. This can go for other elemental gods, like Fujin & Raijin, but I think it would be very unique to have Suijin, as he doesn't get very many depictions in pop-culture. Water is my favourite element, and ice magic could easily suit him as the SMT equivalent. It'd be interesting to see what sort of design they could do with him, because while I'm fine with most water-gods being donned in gold, sporting fish-like features like scales or gills, I'd love to see something akin to Odin's redesign, but with a blue and black colour scheme, and obviously attire more befitting that of an ancient Japanese god. I picture him as this stoic king who fights using hydromancy, and can bend water to crash down on his foes like a dragon. One of his special moves could be shape-shifting part of his body into a water-dragon in a flurry of attacks (e.g. gliding across the water like a slithering dragon, then clawing and tail-slamming the enemy, before finishing them off with a high-pressure beam of water). Given his affiliation with Shinto Mythology, I think he would be best suited as a Neutral demon, or a dark demon, given that water and the seas have many secrets within their depths.

[@veryexciteddog963]

Another demon that could fit into that "human invention" category would be Chemtrails. I know he appeared recently, so he doesn't really fit into this video, but he was a unique idea for a demon and has such a weird, unsettling design.

[@rogercheetoofficial]

i hope SMTV brings back the gaian/messaian conflict, it'd be interesting to see how they'd do it this time

[@neonayse8803]

Camael, Dagon and Vivian just got their first 3d models in SMTDx2, the gacha game

[@homers1999]

I love Alice, favorite death demon. But yeah, she's quite a staple in most of the games.

[@1tabuu]

I would love to have more reps from the Lovecraft mythos! However I think the biggest hurdle is the copyright that's held on his works and their use in other media, especially now since Lovecraft is very popular. I don't think the current holders would demand a ton of royalties (although I could be wrong) but it might not be worth it to Atlus. I do think they'd listen if there was enough demand for that mythos from the fans

[@animeproblem1070]

alice in wonderland doesn’t fall under copyright it’s in the public domain

[@DanteDMC3]

8:15 well funny you should mention that…

[@baronagony4767]

The demons in persona 2 were what got me into mythology in the first place. I just had to make a contract with every one just to get their compendium info

[@TheOnyxGemini]

Some of my choices for demons that should be in future games. Haokah, Ictinike, Sindura, Mammon's if design, Es, and Lugh's soul hackers design. surprised Lugh hasn't appeared in more game seeing as Cu Chulainn is a very prevalent demon.

[@Darkman9000]

Interesting way of saying Rahab, giving the "Ra" part more of a "Ray" pronunciation. In the Legacy of Kain series, which also featured its share of names from various religious mythos, the vampire turned merman had the first part of his name spoken with a sort of "Ruh" sound.

[@MrBcardinal35]

Technically Sae Is Leviathan

[@nsbathome]

8:19 Well this aged amazingly well

[@gustyko8668]

0:43 *WRONG* what they actually owe it to is “Cosmic Soldier”, in fact SMT owes a lot to that game.

[@TheYambino]

Clearly what I got from this is that I need to play smt 2.

[@ultra_jolteon]

watching this video now and I can happily say Adam Kadmon has returned in Persona 5 Royal 🤣

[@ThatOneLegendEmerald]

I mean, the first Fallen Race demon you listed did appear in Persona 5, so hey one is good!

[@jcbhudgins]

Hey man don't knock DemiKids. That's how I got started with SMT.

[@harryunderwood9387]

Would be nice if the next Persona game had the team's theme revolving around Lovecraftian or Zoroastrian mythology, seeing as how each team from P2 onward had a specific theme (at least in their initial Personas).

[@Cure_Hana]

Or maybe some more obscure cryptids? They already have Mothman in the series.

[@ad4ch1_]

@@Cure_Hana I would love to see something like the wendigo into the games

[@omegaweaponredux]

Persona 5 Royal watching this video: "Write that down! write that down!"

[@PichuBrothers123]

Drag queen should come back

[@douchebagbrigade]

PichuBrothers123 Hahahaha lmaooo

[@yolomasta6940]

PichuBrothers123 ye lol

[@YBPaladin]

True

[@dantemustdie00]

I wouldn't mind seeing some more Undead race demons come back. Would alos love the return of Waxworks, Agony, and Undead Rider.

[@ivangordienko8081]

0:25 "Whenever you are playing Persona, mainline or any other spinoff, they have one thing in common, and that's a compendium of monsters in every game" *shows cover art of Digital Devil Saga*

[@gummmie]

christian crusader gundam is my new favorite smt demon (sorry mothman)

[@Ness_Dreemurr]

I'm surprised Bahamut isn't in smt AT ALL and yet we have Robin Hood and Zorro.

[@hippiedave1362]

Can't use Iron Maiden anymore. The band, Iron Maiden will sue.

[@TheBrutalSax]

Pull a Jojo and call it “Metal Maiden” in the west, keep it Iron Maiden in Japanese versions.

[@definitelynotshanque]

Seeing a video from Nyarl in the sub box is a thrill

[@postgenregenres]

They're not used in past games (at least to my knowledge), but I think it would be awesome if SMT included some deities from the *expansive* selection available from the Mayan and Aztec religions. Xōchipilli is one of my personal favorites.

[@bigdingus9333]

Ok imagine this. Digital devil saga is primarily based off Hinduism right? Imagine a megaten game with Cthulhu mythology, the artists could go NUTS with the monsters