Thanks for inviting Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history.
@c1ph3rpunk6 ай бұрын
TKoFaAatRAMitUKHtToIWTH has a certain ring to it.
@dereks61296 ай бұрын
Do you mean Thee Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history?
@jrizos066 ай бұрын
I love that Jonathan's recognized and embraced his full name
@dillonc79556 ай бұрын
@@dereks6129No, he meant The Johnathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history
@JCGver6 ай бұрын
@@c1ph3rpunk I think that's an actual welsh word
@clumsygarage15786 ай бұрын
Ian not realizing that he was working for IGN on those videos, and being disappointed he wouldn’t be hosting alongside Jonathan, is actually hilarious.
@jgjgjg7396 ай бұрын
Who’s Jonathon? Are you referring to Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses thousands of iconic weapons throughout history?
@fckgooogle1000x6 ай бұрын
@@jgjgjg739I think they're referring to Jonathon Frankinson, the watcher of weapons and munitions at the Imperial Armament Gallery in Britain, which contains hundreds of historic weapons from the past
@EpicMSdos6 ай бұрын
Yeah aye, when I saw him do that I thought it was beef for sure, good to see they get along
@simonb47576 ай бұрын
It's very on brand for not really knowing about gaming given that IGN are one of the biggest game review sites out there. It's like Mercedes approaching you to do car reviews and not realising they aren't BMW.
@MorbidEel5 ай бұрын
With the ways typically go, the owner of one of those will probably buy the other and then they will be reunited.
@nfsm6546 ай бұрын
I love it when 'Hey Guys Thanks For Tuning Into Another Video On Forgotten Weapons I'm Ian McCollum' and 'Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, Home to Thousands of Iconic Weapons Throughout History' do a collaboration. It's like when all the planets align. And all the planets are made of guns.
@TheDarksideFNothing6 ай бұрын
I really hope this is official canon now. Their full sentence intros are just their names in my mind forever more
@iponce26 ай бұрын
"And all the planet's are made of guns." Syzygy cannon when?
@LBdreamin6 ай бұрын
Did we just become best friends?
@Slyd_Fox6 ай бұрын
"...And all the planets are made of guns." *40K Ork intensifies*
@RoninofFire6 ай бұрын
Well this Comment sums up Internet culture nicely
@Gottaculat6 ай бұрын
He's not wrong: The only Gamespot content I consume is Jonathan's videos. That's it. He might as well be Gamespot in my eyes.
@extragoogleaccount60615 ай бұрын
and Loadout
@shaneblair-hicks49755 ай бұрын
I don't mind the armor videos either.
@leksasdf5 ай бұрын
His day job is probably not exactly minimum wage, but I hope Gamespot recognizes his value and reward him accordingly.
@HaydenLau.4 ай бұрын
Are you representative of everyone? Why do you think so highly of yourself
@legalwaterdrinker32863 ай бұрын
@@HaydenLau. Well, are you? They were just stating their opinion.
@buddyisbored23556 ай бұрын
I think the reason why Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history, got so popular was because he'd played video games. Usually those kinds of "Person reacts to their expertise in video games" They haven't really played any or kept up with them, so they dont understand that perfect 1 to 1 realism is the goal of the game. Keeper Ferguson of the Firearms (and the Artillery) was the first to understand that sometimes things just dont make it in, because it's a fictional game. Also he carries the Gamespot channel, which is impressive that he carries that along with all those Firearms and Artillery
@FAtE_4546 ай бұрын
He has strong shoulders, he can carry a lot
@jakitron8906 ай бұрын
Jonathan's success absolutely comes from his ability to acknowledge the Rule of Cool as not only something that exists but as something that's legitimate to include in representation
@jh-333-76 ай бұрын
But he's never played Metal Gear game.
@suzuzusu6 ай бұрын
Tl:Dr he's simply not a boomer @@jakitron890
@MercyBellQ6 ай бұрын
He’s a big film buff too, judging by his love for Alien, Die Hard, etc classic action films, so he gets sometimes a gun in a movie or game is more about representing how it feels rather than how it actually is in reality.
@IrregularDave6 ай бұрын
Note to self: Get Jonathan a giant name-badge before my next visit to The Royal Armouries. And Ian if you ever want to join us for an episode, we'd love to have you! Also very humbling to listen to gents that I have huge respect for, mentioning some of my work!
@ColdestDay6 ай бұрын
Thank you for bringing Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history to our attention.
@chris9496 ай бұрын
i'll take this opportunity to thank you for the absolute unit of content you created with Jonathan(...)history - i have very little interest in FPS (nor hardcore into guns come to think of it) but every episode is just entertaining as hell, love loadout as well! also i like the somewhat new trend of you beeing in the react videos for some back and forth context with jonathan, keep it up! really, to the both of you: thank you!
@Daniel__Nobre6 ай бұрын
Quite amazing indeed the amount of work you also put into the content Dave! It’s great, so thanks for the great work.
@nebiyuesayas56005 ай бұрын
Thanks for everything you've done Dave, we appreciate it. And thanks for bringing on Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history.
@neoneinar57615 ай бұрын
It's IrregularDave! Keeper of Jonathan Ferguson, The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK. Love your content man!
@excrubulent6 ай бұрын
The fact Jonathan had to reach so far to find something to downplay Ian's glowing praise at the start shows you how true that praise is. Such an English response.
@Argument_Causer6 ай бұрын
Who’s Jonathan? Is it the guy filming with Ian, Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, featuring thousands of iconic weapons throughout history?
@excrubulent6 ай бұрын
@@Argument_Causer No, it's Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses thousands of iconic weapons throughout history. I don't know who Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, featuring thousands of iconic weapons throughout history is.
@Argument_Causer6 ай бұрын
@@excrubulent ahhh I see, now thanks for educating me on this subject
@excrubulent6 ай бұрын
@@Argument_Causer I just want to make sure we've got proper attribution. There could be millions of Jonathan Ferguson keepers of firearms and artillery, so we need to be specific about which Jonathan Ferguson keeper of firearms and artillery we mean.
@excrubulent6 ай бұрын
@@Argument_CauserI'm so sorry, I've just realised that is *not* Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses thousands of iconic weapons throughout history. It is in fact Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of weapons from throughout history. I'm actually quite embarrassed, I always get those guys mixed up.
@Proud2bashamed4 ай бұрын
The first 3 minutes of this video is them being embarrassed at how popular they are and it is just the most wholesome thing.
@FAtE_4546 ай бұрын
Oh it's Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of grounds and keys at hog..... Wait, wrong one
@neilgibbs38806 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 that’s his weekend job.
@Hybris511296 ай бұрын
"You're a arms collector Harry."
@FAtE_4546 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@FAtE_4546 ай бұрын
@@Hybris51129 wouldn't that just be "guns akimbo"? Lol
@Choscura6 ай бұрын
keeper of grounds and keys at *gun hogwarts*.
@Vahlsten6 ай бұрын
"Call of Honor: Warfare 8" NEEDS to be a real game title now lololol
@ayelmao12243 ай бұрын
I hear it’s the sequel to Cock of Doody 4: Modern Gayfuckstupid
@mateimarian19376 ай бұрын
Unironically could watch these two discuss for days
@livingcorpse56646 ай бұрын
Same. We just need to find a gun or group of guns worthy of one of their crossover special.
@Mr_T_Badger6 ай бұрын
Same here.
@aletseva6 ай бұрын
Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history and Gun Jesus are my favorite gun youtubers.
@TAMAMO-VIRUS5 ай бұрын
Same. Though if they do, I hope they up the volume on Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history's mic. He was a bit hard to hear this episode.
@PatrickByrne-e5v5 ай бұрын
unsarcastically u mean?....how would it be ironic?
@richardpurves6 ай бұрын
5:05 I still remember your collaboration with John 'TotalBiscuit" Bain going through real life vs video game weapons. RIP TotalBiscuit.
@Stukov9616 ай бұрын
Oh dang I missed that back in the day. You don't happen to have a link do you?
@yewtewbstew5476 ай бұрын
@@Stukov961 The video is titled "TotalBiscuit fires real WW1 weapons ft. Ian from ForgottenWeapons"
@Stukov9616 ай бұрын
@@yewtewbstew547 Thanks!
@AntExe-ey5my6 ай бұрын
Damn, I love that shirt that Jonathan Ferguson, the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history, is wearing.
@theax406 ай бұрын
It's from Retro Rifle
@skyd87266 ай бұрын
Going by the lack of fabric around the forearms under the suit jacket, I'm guessing it is a short sleeved shirt he is wearing???
@srajala424 ай бұрын
I, too, am jealous of his shirt
@HQ_Default6 ай бұрын
I love that upon finding out that IGN were the people who hired him, Ian had the exact same reaction as everyone else.
@zephoknight5716 ай бұрын
To give a bit more context on the Arma 3 example at 10:35, It's goes a bit further than "they came up with a generic current year assault rifle for the game", the MX rifles (which are the only rifles not based on a real-life firearm) are in fact designed by CMMG, specifically for Arma 3, with the both CMMG's logo and name on the in game models.
@CatCheshireThe6 ай бұрын
Yeah my understanding for the reasoning behind this is that ArmA 3 isn't exactly a "modern day" military sim, it takes place in the 2030s so they were trying to imagine a "near future" rifle. No wacky sci-fi stuff, just something that could plausibly end up replacing the M4 in the next 10-20 years (the game predates the XM7 so they actually weren't that far off with the timing)
@ticket2space6 ай бұрын
That's absolutely insane I didn't know that. That's so rad
@Gigadweeb6 ай бұрын
Also IIRC they use polymer ammo in a 6mm calibre, 10 years before that became a thing.
@philippepayant66276 ай бұрын
@@Gigadweebcaseless, actually (which makes the gun easier to animate in-game!)
@jonathanferguson12116 ай бұрын
I read this on IMFDB years ago but had clean forgotten that aspect. Now if only CMMG would make the gun for real, all would be right with the world :)
@Wafelkowiec6 ай бұрын
Yeah, Jonathan is a national treasure for gamers because he has a background in gaming as well as in arms. Nothing against Ian, but when he did, the expert reacted to game weapons, You could see twinkle in his eyes when it came to real arms, but it was absent from "gaming" part. Jonathan has enthusiasm for both parts, which makes him the perfect pick for the series.
@diogoduarte40976 ай бұрын
Key takeaway from this: HK is the Nintendo of guns. To be honest, I actually prefer those plausible looking, but functional guns in videogames. It shows the creativity and research done by the game studio. Of course this wouldn't work in a historical story setting, tho.
@I_Willenbrock_I6 ай бұрын
Actually, HK is not the Nintendo of guns, because they DON'T sew the f out of anyone who uses their stuff in games. HK simply doesn't want the attention and keeps to ignore games.
@bristleback36146 ай бұрын
that's why i love fallout guns, they look ridiculous and has to much unnecessary detail but they're cool and fit perfectly with the retro-futuristic style of fallout game
@scottjs52076 ай бұрын
eh, to a degree, it does work in historical context I.E BF1. But not like storymodes or campaigns, those should stick as closely to the real thing IMO as possible. But There's plenty more freedom to embellish the truth a little if it's aesthetically correct and somewhat believable for the era. Like having a late production FN BAR would be perfectly believable based on aesthetics alone for a WW2 game. Maybe not WW1, that should stick to pre-WW2 stuff as much as possible though, especially where caliber conversions exist though they should stick to ammo of pre and during the respective wars IMO.
@thisagame58476 ай бұрын
HK would supply Nintendo with weapons for their nefarious schemes.
@SCH2926 ай бұрын
Someone should tell HK this,"Those contracts don't last forever".
@tsogid6 ай бұрын
Thanks for inviting Jonathan Ferguson, the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in UK, home to thousands of iconic firearms throughout the history!
@JoCaTen6 ай бұрын
Now that's an insane crossover! I can't believe you got THE Jonathan Ferguson! The keeper of firearms and artillery at the royal armories in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history
@jasosik6 ай бұрын
imagine getting Hickok45 here. internet overload
@md_vandenberg6 ай бұрын
@JoCaTen If you aren't aware, Ian and Johnathon did a Christmas video over on the Royal Armouries channel. It's fun, give it a watch.
@WingMaster5626 ай бұрын
Welcome back to the internet, JoCaT
@Drrolfski6 ай бұрын
Call of Duty, Battlefield and Arma games is actually what brought me to this channel many years ago. When you're playing enough shooter games then inevitably at some point you're starting to recognize the iconic gun models and become curious about them. I actually bet for a big part that has driven the succes of this channel and a significant chunk of this audience probably has a gaming background.
@RoboChocobo6 ай бұрын
The rise of contemporary firearm culture is heavily driven by video games. You spend dozens or hundreds of hours with your favorite equipment and many eventually want to acquire it IRL.
@Drrolfski6 ай бұрын
@@RoboChocobo Actually acquiring guns that you play with in shooter games is more of a US thing though. Most countries have laws in place that heavily restrict its usage.
@arekkrol97586 ай бұрын
@@Drrolfskiusually the only issue is work needed and money, jumping through so many hoops to get license then spending money that could buy a car to get a gun you dont really need is quite unlikely thing to happen + in europe ASG is quite popular and more liberal than in US, so its possible to get a decent accurate replica and have fun with it like in videogame
@Drrolfski6 ай бұрын
@@arekkrol9758 Sure, airsoft has quite a following but it doesn't even come close to the real gun culture that is quite unique for the US.
@ChristianTheNorwegian6 ай бұрын
Yes, nice to se Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK. Which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history here again at Forgotten Weapons :)
@gflo27816 ай бұрын
H3VR is an interesting one. A community that want nothing more than full accuracy with each weapon, and an amazing dev that does nothing but continuously refine the in game guns to make them as realistic as possible. I know he names them in a specific way to avoid copyright, but each and every detail on the weapons, their functions etc, usually is perfect. I know it's a bit of a niche VR title, but for someone like myself living in Northern Ireland, the only guns I ever have seen irl were my dad's police issue snub nosed revolver, and the replacement g17 they were issued after, and that was many years ago. So H3VR to me feels like a trip to the Royal armouries only being able to shoot every gun in sight, for a gun nerd living over here, that's hard to beat!
@WJS7745 ай бұрын
Northern Ireland at least has pistols available to the public, here in England they are banned outright.
@khathaway4146 ай бұрын
Ian and Jonathon together an EPIC crossover.
@EvMund6 ай бұрын
who's Jonathon? the guy who is filming Ian and Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history?
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
@@EvMund way to keep this meme going. Take my like, "...ya dirty bastard". /h 🤣 😉 🤣
@KRIMZONMEKANISM6 ай бұрын
On the topic of "fictious guns that could conceivably exist irl", that's one of the *BIG* driving factors of the METRO series' popularity and appeal. You get bizarre and weird "skeleton/tacticool" firearms that are "plausably" created out of desparation and necessity in a highly industrialized, post-apocalyptic setting. People jury-rigged weapons to maintain their own, whereas the extra parts could be sold for supplies or ammo, and then others have the thrashy parts that nobody wants, so some buy those for less money and then fix them themselves, and then maybe craft their own parts (with dubious quality), so now you have the majority of the population with half-reliable amateur-made guns, and a small percentage of the rich with what you can call "old world guns". This is why you can justify lots of super weird modifications to weapons, like having a 3-shot cylinder for a Revolver, in Metro Exodus. Some dudes probably bought revolver frames without stock cylinders, so then they crafted their own cylinders from 3 pipes welded together to make due, and then fiddled around with the inner mechanisms so that each hammer action would rotate twice to make up for half the ammo capacity.
@dragontear16382 ай бұрын
I like both this aesthetic, and it's function - when you're armed with weapons like these in that situation, you don't feel powerful, you feel quite conscious of having to work with equipment that will save your life, but may fail at the worst possible moment while knowing you have limited reserves or backup weapons that are even more dubious.
@ReboyGTR6 ай бұрын
*Let check the comments.* *And it's just "Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK" memes.*
@memoriaz.0166 ай бұрын
You forget *"Which houses thousands of iconic weapons throughout history"*
@T4gProd6 ай бұрын
While it's kinda funny, it's also annoying. There's so much interesting stuff in the comments, but they are a pain to read because of the meme.
@GjVj6 ай бұрын
As it should be, as it should be.
@hbdragon8815 күн бұрын
Alright, pause...there's just going to be a lot of pained wincing
@Muckychips6 ай бұрын
What's really fun is the weapon he is talking about from Arma 3, the MX series, was actually designed for the game by CMMG (Firearms Manufacturer).
@joost11206 ай бұрын
It's really a surprisingly real weapon for a completely fictional weapon. When Arma 3 was being developed, service rifles were either 5.56 or 5.45. Arma 3 is set in 2030, and NATO has adopted service rifles in 6.5mm. And now, we see a similar trend with militaries adopting or at least considering service rifles with more power than intermediate rounds but less than full power rifle rounds, such as the (X)M7. Arma's MX rifles truly do feel like they could be actual adopted service rifles in a few years. They don't have any weird design choices like you frequently see in (near-)futuristic weapons, they're just real.
@WJS7745 ай бұрын
@@joost1120 Well, 6.5 has been on the horizon for a _long_ time, it's not really prophetic to guess that the transition that everyone thinks is coming will do so before 2030.
@verrueckteriwan6 ай бұрын
I watched your "Forgotten Weapons reacts to 'blank' in different video games" and I instantly thought "You are not cut out for this kind of content" just because of your lack of experience with games. Knowing now that you thoughts are exactly the same makes me respect you even more now Ian ^^ On the other hand I would love to have a "loadout" or "expert reacts" episode with you and Jonathan Ferguson (The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history) where you have a little back and forth talk about guns in games.
@leadpaintchips94616 ай бұрын
Ayup, the other thing that I thought would be a good fit for Ian would be the more milsim games, since they're reaching more towards his wheelhouse.
@mbt8086 ай бұрын
Ian and Jonathan together in a gun reacts video sounds fun. Also, It’s also important to recognize Dave’s contribution in the firearms expert reacts videos. It really adds to the video.
@cyc85996 ай бұрын
It's always nice to see Jonathan Ferguson Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history on the show again.
@milesfinch6 ай бұрын
Sir Ferguson, for that is what he deserves, is the middle man between the academic nerd and the real world enthusiast. For someone who fired a few firearms whilst in the UK army, I have no interest in the firing of the weapons, but I am fascinated by the engineering and the varying thought processes that lay behind each firearm, and its mechanism. And I also like the way the SA80 is slagged off by pretty much everyone!! ;-) I'm an SLR man at heart, and yes, the SLR is the best FAL around.
@kikichevy6 ай бұрын
VERY interesting to see Johnathan and Ian discuss what we call "Lore Friendly" guns in video games set in realistic/alternate universes either in the current era or the past. I'm a big fan of GTA games and always have because of the great lore friendly made-up cars designs they used in their games, and if a game has good lore guns, I'll like that too. I think it's a shame people default to liking real life guns over seeing original, well thought out designs that could absolutely be seen in the real world. Real guns are cool but fake guns designed well are cooler to me.
@yetanother91276 ай бұрын
Well-thought-out fictional guns are always a joy to see. When you're the right kind of nerd, those small details can add a ton of verisimilitude to a fictional setting. This is why, for example, I like the guns of _Foxhole_ (which Jonathan has definitely reacted to); slightly kludgy graphics aside, they're meant to be plausible functional firearms for this kind of not-Earth pseudo-WWII setting, and I think they succeed at that marvelously.
@littlegiantj87616 ай бұрын
@@yetanother9127You would get a kick out of some of the designs depicted in Cyberpunk 2020 (the tabletop game, not 2077).
@yocapo326 ай бұрын
@@littlegiantj8761 That's honestly one thing that bothers me about '77, is how 2020 and RED had really well thought out (If poorly drawn) fictional guns, and 2077 has, like, six AR-15s with a slanted magazine well because they saw a PCC that used Glock mags and used that as a reference for like half the arsenal
@presjoseph6 ай бұрын
who's Jonathon? the guy who is filming lan and Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history?
@arekkrol97586 ай бұрын
keywords "designed well", sometimes its just butchering real design until its legally distinct
@G-Mastah-Fash6 ай бұрын
I love *Keeper of Firearms and Artillery, 5 ft. 11 In. No. 1, MK. 1, Ferguson, Jonathan*
@BonkEmJohn6 ай бұрын
underrated 😂
@ClarkKentai6 ай бұрын
I think the weapons from the Killzone franchise would be interesting to Ian, particularly the standard-issue Helghast assault rifle from the first game.
@1IGG6 ай бұрын
Is it a bullpup?
@ClarkKentai6 ай бұрын
@@1IGG It's a bullpup with a helical magazine, reloading the thing involves lifting and closing a latch similar to the M249, and it has an underslung shotgun.
@jameshealy45946 ай бұрын
@@ClarkKentaiso... It's totally absurd? Doesn't seem like Ian's sort of thing but I'll watch it happily if it happens!
@joshwist5566 ай бұрын
@@jameshealy4594absurd but cool. Which we can’t have anymore.
@FuzedBox6 ай бұрын
@@jameshealy4594 Ian is a sucker for totally absurd designs because they usually have an interesting history behind them.
@ianrobertson34196 ай бұрын
Ian and Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history talking about the legal side of firearms IP in video games is excellent content.
@Mr_Blonde-ru9kd6 ай бұрын
gotta say, a collaboration like this one is like waking up on a christmas morning to gifts under a tree. truly amazing
@GigAnonymous5 ай бұрын
15:50 As an european, can confirm HK Germany doesn't understand their civilian customer base. For some reason, they keep being surprised that people actually want to *buy* their stuff. Not kidding - when the HK SP5 became a thing, they decided to ship a grand total of TWELVE to France... six of them actually being in back order.
@toobigtofit35846 ай бұрын
12:05 Cutting the front sight hood is often done on MP5s for optics use. Depending on the optic height you're using, it can often obscure a good portion of your sight picture. The one on mine is intact - I've found that a low profile picatinny claw mount, with an absolute cowitness riser on a Aimpoint Micro style red dot just barely clears the hood (you can see a bit of it at the bottom of the optic depending on your angle). The tradeoff is then cheek weld.
@OnceNate6 ай бұрын
With the ACR, it first showed up in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (2009) but as the first variant from Bushmaster. The design was bought by Remington after, and in Modern Warfare 3 (2011), we saw the model from Remington.
@markdickman6 ай бұрын
A couple of years ago a game developer Ward B designed some weapons for their game Oceanic. Kalashnikov Concern then approached them to make one of them, a shotgun called the Mastodon as a weapons kit for one of their shotgun designs, the MP-155 Ultima. So the game design to real life has happened. In this case, however there was lawsuits involved because of their being no licensing deal, and KC allegedly relicensing the weapon design to another game developer. IGN have an article on this case.
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
Good to know. Thanks
@fazsum416 ай бұрын
Sometimes a dev can unintentionally create a game weapon design that is actually a practical design to the real world despite not having any knowledge in the field of weapon mechanics and design. There is just a whole load of legal, cost and marketing reasons as to why manufacturers don’t bother with making fan favourite game weapons a reality. Kalashnikov are nutjobs anyway so them asking for a game weapon made real is not surprising at all after the fact they decided to make a god damn electric car
@jamaintjelly27726 ай бұрын
If Remington/Bushmaster didn’t mess up manufacturing the ACR every person who grew up playing MW2/MW3 would own one. It is an ICONIC firearm in gaming.
@leifwulffstephan37256 ай бұрын
Now throw in Ahoy and we have the best video of all times.
@andrewreynolds9126 ай бұрын
Yesss!!!! ❤
@thewalking44736 ай бұрын
Something to hold us over waiting on Ahoy's next upload.
@khathaway4146 ай бұрын
Senator Herrera,
@cerealata90356 ай бұрын
I doubt we'll be having an Ahoy face reveal in the future since he's only done narrations in his videos, so one of the Iconic Arms has to become his stand-in.
@jh-333-76 ай бұрын
@@khathaway414 *congressman Herrera, but close enough lol
@electrofreak06 ай бұрын
I know it's prolly impossible logistically, but man I'd love a John and Ian youtube channel that allows each other's expertise to shrine through and maybe give insights that would otherwise be lost on people who only watch one channel or the other.
@georgeparkes38636 ай бұрын
When are you guys going to take Jonathan to the States to try out more classic weapons? This crossover series needs to happen!
@Junk4u9995 ай бұрын
I think it’s worth mentioning that Kashnikov Group actually gives their internal 3D Models to Battle State Games do use in Escape From Tarkov
@methodsocratic5 ай бұрын
Which is awesome, but BSG has (amazingly, no criticism at all) modeled every damn firearm in both form and function pretty much exactly accurately, *and* BSG uses actual model names. lol. Also, not for nothing, but those devs obv appreciate firearms at a Gun Jesus, Jonathan Ferguson level; so many complicated & accurate function-animations, incredibly accurate models…just…wow.
@MDADigital6 ай бұрын
My studio is making a hyper realistic VR shooter. One aspect of realism that many games are missing, more so VR games are correct gripping techniques. For example when gripping a pistol with both hands we have a separate set of rigs that represent a thumbs forward grip, and seamless blend when you transition between single handed and dual handed. I hope details like these matter in the end :)
@burnburn6456 ай бұрын
YES. its all that matters, way before other things. remove all uncanny valley effects!
@darthstatic6 ай бұрын
If you've put even one tenth of the effort into your game that Anton has put into H3VR (and considering you're thinking about the realistic gripping of weapons the answer is yes), it's gonna be great. Looking forward to it.
@MDADigital6 ай бұрын
@@darthstatic you can check out my channel, have a few videos. We are pretty much on par on most aspects. We dont animate the cartridge in the chamber yet though. We are also a multiplayer game so everything becomes more complex :)
@chemistryofquestionablequa62526 ай бұрын
Are you making the damage realistic too? I’ve seen very few games that have done that.
@MDADigital6 ай бұрын
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Its a very complex topic. I mean, first the anatomy of the human body is very complex. Modeling it all is not practical. But also, damage models have to be balanced for gameplay reasons. We however have very realistic terminal ballistics so your helmet can save you if the bullet comes in at a shallow angel (Or if the helmet is rated to stop the bullet then angle doesn't matter). We also model the heart which means insta death. We also model physical correct external ballistics so the velocity of the round will be reduced as it travels down range. And the velocity is part of the damage calculation. Also we factor in how well certain rounds shatter or tumble inside soft tissue. So for example, 5.56 is known to perform sub par when it reaches lower velocities because it tends to tumble less when it hits soft tissue. This is modeled into the damage model.
@jakeakoak84352 ай бұрын
Hey it's Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armories in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons.
@edm240b96 ай бұрын
15:54 something like that has already happened. In the original Modern Warfare 2, they used an airsoft AR15 as their version of the M4A1 Carbine. They gave it an A.R.M.S. #50C-TR S.I.R. railed handguard, flip up gas block, and some other things. However, due to the success of the game, many AR15 builds people do are based off of that in game model. I believe TREX Arms built an MW2 M4A1 and there’s posts on Reddit of people showing their MW2 AR15 builds.
@benjidowning26096 ай бұрын
If Ian is in the UK, I hope he can make a video on the Cei-Rigotti and Beretta Revelli
@zehnerdygamer33296 ай бұрын
He’s got a video on the Cei-Rigotti already - it’s like ten years old but it’s there
@vittoriovaglio20316 ай бұрын
I agree
@benjidowning26096 ай бұрын
@@zehnerdygamer3329 I know, but he said he wants to make a better video on it
@vittoriovaglio20316 ай бұрын
and a video of the Beretta Revelli, like the one for the Beretta 1918/30@@benjidowning2609
@gameboyterrorysta63075 ай бұрын
15:25 - exactly that thing happened in racing games. EA got exclusive license for Porsche products, and other publishers decided to license from companies created restomods and replicas of Porsche. Most popular brand that got a lot of publicity like that was RUF, which creates its' own cars "dressed up" as old 911s.
@pssdn6 ай бұрын
More videos with these two gentlemen discussing video games please
@CrookedSkew6 ай бұрын
What a tremendous crossover! Thankee kindly! :)
@MosinAttractedPerson6 ай бұрын
They have, alot.
@malik7406 ай бұрын
Escape from Tarkov is getting offers from manufacturers for attachments to add to the game because it has been proven a cheap attachment showing up in the game has good sales in the US Because they got all the licenses you can build a gun in the game and take the names of parts from the game , go to your gunshop and get the exact gun build from the exact parts in real life.
@Calvin_Coolage6 ай бұрын
BSG also has contacts with Russian arms companies like Zenitco who happily give them license to put their stuff in game. I also believe all of the Kiba Arms accessories are for the most part based off of prototypes from Russian companies.
@Calvin_Coolage6 ай бұрын
@@brushnit9212 Personally I'm hoping they let BSG take scans of the new Strelok kit they put out recently.
@KasumiRINA5 ай бұрын
And people say sanctions work, eh? Western companies giving russian devs linked to their military schematics for weapons is some Lifboat shit, at this rate we'll see US arms makers singing that "ya srusski."
@Calvin_Coolage5 ай бұрын
@@KasumiRINA Battlestate is headquartered in the UK so they get by on a technicality, yes.
@Nikotheleepic5 ай бұрын
@@KasumiRINAboo hoo
@schwarzok5 ай бұрын
Finally, gun jesus and Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history, great collab guys, love it!
@perteraboofolympus1506 ай бұрын
Gamespit exists to make new videos featuring John Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal armories museum in the United Kingdom. all jokes aside the reason people like both you Ian and john is because you both are fun and relatable personalities with a generally friendly and humble demeanor. You both also have a huge amount of respect towards historical value towards interesting mechanical development over the years and understanding the amount of ingenuity and creativity in trying to essentially do the same thing but better.
@buggs99506 ай бұрын
It would've been nice if John Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal armouries museum in the United Kingdom had said yeah, Gameswallow were a just rubbish before he rocked up. Then chuckled. At least he could've laughed it off as a joke. Instead he made it clear they really were rubbish without saying as much, it amused me.
@johnpreston30556 ай бұрын
The two of you are the reason that i have started my gunsmithing gunstore... and a history degree to tie into the Gunsmithing credentials... thank you for what you do...
@bear740able5 ай бұрын
One of my favourite videos to watch. Two firearms legends literally shooting the breeze, no pun intended. Thanks for that Ian & Jonathan.
@coobkАй бұрын
its very reminiscent of when kalashnikov and stoner talked about each others rifles together
@luketarplin6 ай бұрын
Awesome cross over, firearms and video games. Fun fact here in Canada our tyrannical PM tried to ban the distribution of data files used in video games, in an attempt to stop 3D printed firearms, until the video game industry pointed out, we use the same files for 3D models in video games, and this law was due to outlaw all shooter type games in Canada. Ooops!
@WJS7745 ай бұрын
Sounds like typical anti-gun bullshit, it is astounding just how utterly ignorant those people are, I mean just how dumb do you have to be to think that you can 3d print working firearms from video game asset models?
@Lankythepyro6 ай бұрын
Something I love about Johnathan Ferguson (Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK) is as a non-military personnel and non hunter or sports shooter I find him very relatable. He's an expert on firearms from a largely academic perspective, which is most of my own interest in them, and he also loves discussing how they've appeared in videogames and films, particularly the Pulse Rifle from Aliens which I often assert as one of the two greatest movies ever made. When it comes to firearms and the like my dream has never been a collection for hunting or competition or the perfect arm for different conflicts or roles, but a museum where firearms can be appreciated for their history and engineering. If I hit my firearm level cap I could expect to be him.
@ZRosserMcIntosh6 ай бұрын
I am a HUGE fan of Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the royal armory museum in the UK. He’s just such a man of culture! He even knows about the HK Slap music video.
@VaqueroDelEspacio6 ай бұрын
I started watching Forgotten Weapons years and years ago, then in the past year or so I started watching Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history since I've always played games, this video is like avengers endgame levels of crossover, great vid
@YYCEyeGuyGord6 ай бұрын
Always nice to see Jonathan Ferguson, the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the a Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history. Should have him on more often.
@DocOmaley986 ай бұрын
It’d be a an interesting talk if you two had a convo about how maybe different companies react to or play into gun culture and modern gun culture in general.
@colchronic6 ай бұрын
Oh shit it's Jonathan Ferguson keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal armories museum in the UK home of thousands of iconic weapons throughout history
@Valkanna.Nublet6 ай бұрын
I love it when you feature the great Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history.
@MrShifty086 ай бұрын
Big up Ian for the Call of Honor: Warfare 8 love!
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey6 ай бұрын
The original Call of Honor: Warfare 8 or the reboot?
@vast94676 ай бұрын
@@PrototypeSpaceMonkey by reboot do you mean the remake or the next gen release?
@Acute.6 ай бұрын
Thanks for thanking for inviting Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history
@bami26 ай бұрын
Always love these conversations between gun jesus and Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history.
@komradechampa3486 ай бұрын
I am really enjoying how Gun Jesus is becoming the center of the guntube cinematic universe.
@KennethDPedersen6 ай бұрын
When these guys get together it feels like watching The Avengers, your separate heroes joining forces
@garethwilkins67444 ай бұрын
Can't believe you got Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history on the channel.
@Qwenter1236 ай бұрын
I gotta say, it's always a great day when I get to see Ian talking to Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history. In all seriousness, I love the conversations you two have, please don't stop collabing.
@IdentityAJB6 ай бұрын
This is a great video. I always love when you two are in a video together geeking out about firearms.
@lathanchurch83526 ай бұрын
If I were a gun company I'd license or make a contract that allows video game developers and publishers to use the names
@straysheep44676 ай бұрын
They sometimes do. The issue is that if you use something that is licensed, it is generally not in perpetuity. You might license the M16 or something from Barrett for your video game, but what about if you want to do a 10th anniversary release on another platform or storefront? Maybe you don't have the budget to relicense all of the guns you've put in. So now what? Do you have the budget to then go back, make changes to the game to scrub the licensed material out? Sometimes that might actually break something in the game that now needs fixing. It can just make much more sense to simply make your own legally distinct versions of things like brands, cars, guns, etc.
@jonathanferguson12116 ай бұрын
And there was a media backlash to this practice that means overt licencing with branding etc is pretty much unheard of now. If you see real names, markings and models being used though, there's a deal been done (or it's a small team that think they can get away with it).@@straysheep4467
@OnafetsEnovap6 ай бұрын
@@straysheep4467 Give them nicknames, so to speak, but they're still recognisable by appearance alone? I suppose that works. :)
@p.jakub886 ай бұрын
Reminds me of classic Mafia 1 game with fictional car names. Fortunately there was a mod to restore real car names if you didn't like that.
@fazsum416 ай бұрын
@@OnafetsEnovapthe nicknames is where legal issues are now starting to crop up. Johnathon talks about it with the MP5 in this video, that name gives H&K just as much control as it does adding an exact 1 to 1 MP5. Which is why games like Turd of Duty have completely stopped adding closely resembling real life weapons and their names to the games now. Those families of the victims from the school shooting that sued Activision pretty much trashed the gaming industry and the weapons they add to the games because neither them or the gun manufacturers want to deal with the legal issues anymore
@Sh-epard3 ай бұрын
Late to the party but i like both approaches on firearms, the more technical and historical of Ian even for small details or features and the one with videogames background of Jonathan. Many of the viewers are probably on my same line, started to knew weapons from games and maybe developed a more in focus interest/passion for them after, yet it's always interesting listening to both. I'm also a tank/armored vehicle enthusiast and for those i dug deeply for finding more infos and details on their developments and constructions, my best success was collect Hunnicutt volumes on American AFVs, which are very expensive to find and have (thanks to other people that were kind to share them🖤). Wish we can see more collab in future of this kind, even between games weaponry and real ones!
@krywoz7076 ай бұрын
Hi guys, thanks for tuning in to Forgotten Weapons, this is Ian McCollum, and on his left is Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history
@flannellemur48185 ай бұрын
I love the gun community, you’re all connected and it’s awesome
@Nate_the_Nobody6 ай бұрын
AWWW YEAH! They're doing a video together in person!
@jonathanferguson12116 ай бұрын
Not the first one :)
@5tyxxxx5 ай бұрын
two legends in the same video, the day suddenly became much better
@CanalTremocos6 ай бұрын
Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history, enjoyer of bullpups, and regular expert at GameSpot.
@Friday_WasTakenАй бұрын
Love these colabs. Such a dope power team :D love both of yall independently and together
@windmild6 ай бұрын
it’s really Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries in the UK, which houses a collect of iconic weapons throughout history.
@parsakoolaji2222Ай бұрын
It's really interesting to see the newer knowledge that both Jonathan and Ian have gained about the implementaion of guns in video game and how now it's about avoiding a battle not only in the court of law, but also court of public opinion as well. Or maybe they already know about these things.
@afd198506 ай бұрын
I was subbed to Gamespot for over a decade, Jonathan and Dave Jewitt definitely saved the channel!!!
@Saitama4M4T1456 ай бұрын
Who's Jonathan?
@Chaydex4 ай бұрын
It's really nice seeing both Gun Jesus and The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery in a same video, one really nice interaction I remember having with Jonathan was on the CS:GO video on Gamespot where he responded on his personal account since I first thought that the AK magazine was modelled wrong in game but he corrected me that it's actually an aftermarket magazine which tbh is kind of curious for Valve to do when it comes to modelling the AK-47 in the game. It straight up looks like a 5.45 mag but curved into 7.62 if you squint
@joshsamuelson17936 ай бұрын
Keltec already builds strange gun designs that would be at home in a video game. Not much of a leap for them to reverse the process. Lol
@DH-xw6jp6 ай бұрын
Even FN has made a few that would feel right at home in a video game like Halo (specifically the F2000)
@daniellambert12176 ай бұрын
so glad to see my 2 favourite gun/nut nerds together ! I`m an avid collector of useless information and these guys are like a Michelin rated restaurant . I would love to see a live game play collaboration and critique with these two , I can just imagine the old man style grumblings and groans of pain as well as the grudging respect needed from time to time . fun and informative at the same time
@parmezan91576 ай бұрын
Ah it is always nice to see Mr Jonathan Fergunson, first of his name, king of the Andals and the First Men, lord of the seven kingdoms, father of dragons, the unburned, breaker of chains.
@JimmyNuisance5 ай бұрын
The thing I like about this channel and also the videos with Jonathan is that you're just normal human beings who have a deep interest in guns, and not some ideologically driven militia fundamentalist lunatics. I like guns for their mechanics and the history, I like games. I'm not out here waving flags and calling for armed rebellion and stuff. Neither are these guys. It's all the fun and interesting parts of guns with none of the ideological lunacy. Thanks for being a place where everyone can learn rather than being a bullhorn for hysteria and far right militia-style propaganda. I truly appreciate it. Genuinely.
@PepperDog766 ай бұрын
My phone was barely able to contain the level of awesome that’s in this video. Two absolute legends! Definitely need to see more collaborations.
@invertedjoy97316 ай бұрын
I actually assembled an AR-10/LR-308 because of one of the loadouts I liked to run in Escape From Tarkov. Having proper part and accessory names is free advertising.
@jimmystecher52146 ай бұрын
I really appreciate that you brought Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history, He brings a great perspective.
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
Wow, thumbs way up for being one of the few people commenting that actually capitalized Jonathan's proper name and title! 💵
@AllAboutSurvival6 ай бұрын
The evolution of names and likenesses in gaming compared to real-world firearms adds an intriguing layer to the gaming experience
@ValidSurvival6 ай бұрын
Jonathan Ferguson's insights, coupled with his expertise as Keeper of Firearms and Artillery, offer a unique perspective on the subject.
@julienceaser40185 ай бұрын
gun jesus and Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history crossover event ive always wanted
@ragdolsaboveaverage6 ай бұрын
I love how you can tell who British and who’s American always not just accent or prior knowledge of who they are. They are the living embodiment of two different ways of life. I love it
@Medic4276 ай бұрын
Jonathan is the ONLY British person I’ll listen to about firearms. He’s good!
@dancing_odie6 ай бұрын
6 min in and I noticed the double-suppressed Lugers and those are sick
@LukSter189986 ай бұрын
where are they??
@Noxx556 ай бұрын
As a person who is both fascinated in firearms, and who's played games (mainly shooters lol) since childhood. It's nice to hear two very likable experts talk about both without the eye-rolling you see when firearms and video games mentioned in the same sentence, or insincere pandering without the actual expertise you see elsewhere. I like that they are both extremely knowledgeable, and passionate about firearms, but Johnathan has a background playing games, while Ian is less experienced with games, while still interested on how guns are represented in games, and the legal nonsense that goes on behind the scenes. I could listen to these two talk about guns for hours. (Though I am kind of biased, I've been following them both for years). Great video!
@boingkster6 ай бұрын
Awwesome colab! Yes!!! On game guns, while not always 100% realistic they gotta sound good and look good. Sure there are operation elements that may not be realistic but if they are cool thats pretty much forgiven! All the best as always, cheers!
@RockstarRomania6 ай бұрын
Kinda like how the AK-47s are usually AKMs in most games, or the Counter-Strike AWP being actually a AWSM due to the .338 Lapua Magnum cartridges it uses in-game.
@SCH2926 ай бұрын
Agree. They don't have to be 100% accurate. Maybe 79% or 80% accurate? Get it? 79% or 80%?. Lol. The most important thing is the naming. For example. In some video games they use "G17", "G-17" or "GM17" instead of Glock 17 to avoid trademark. There are some games out there are straight up lazy with the "naming" and they straight up name that gun into something else. I use to play this low budget crappy zombie game. Zombie survival. "You found a Bulldog. Will you take it?". I'm like..."Wtf is a bulldog? A dog?". Opened my inventory. Looked at the "bulldog". I was like,"Oh. MP7 and it shoots 38 special? Bruh. What?".
@RockstarRomania6 ай бұрын
@@SCH292 the MP7 from HL2 still remains the best with the old H&K PDW prototype model in-game. I love also how the MMod mod also integrated the grenade launcher into the PDW design.
@DarkThunderism5 ай бұрын
I still remember when he was "Jonathan Ferguson, The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in Leeds, in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history." Those were simpler days.