OTs-14 Groza: Russia's Over-Hyped 9x39mm Spetznaz Bullpup

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The 9x39mm cartridge was introduced in the final days of the Soviet Union as a subsonic round intended specifically for suppressed weapons. The first weapons developed for it were the AS Val and VSS Vintorez. These were followed in the early 1990s by the OTs-14 "Groza", developed by Valery Tells and Yuri Lebedev at Tula. The concept was for a modular multi-purpose rifle which could be assembled on a mission-by-mission basis by special forces or police troops as required. The complete load out included a short barrel with vertical front grip, a longer barrel, an under barrel grenade launcher, and a telescopic sight. The base gun was an AKS-74U ("Krinkov") converted to 9x39mm. Only a few hundred were ever made, all of them converted from AKS-74U rifles rather than being built from scratch.
The Groza is an exotic and highly touted rifle in the west because it is extremely rare, but it was not really well liked by those who actually used it. It cannot be fired left-handed, it blows a lot of gas into the shooter's face when used suppressed, and its controls are rather awkward to use. the lofty original plan was to produce it in 9x39 for Spetznaz, 5.45 for the Russian Army, and 5.56mm NATO and 7.62x39mm for export sales. In fact, only the 9x39mm version was made and production took place only in 1994 and 1995.
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[@24YOA]

Hats off to the veterans of the Chernobyl NPP who survived a 40+ minute corridor shooter against 100s of enemies with this thing.

[@phencyclidine7880]

idi ko mne

[@Bandog23]

​@@phencyclidine7880 oh monolith

[@mursefaneca]

Speak for yourself, I was always a G36P kinda guy.

[@ZeroHxC07]

Cheeky breeki

[@abdou.the.heretic]

PALOCHAY GRANATO CHERV >:( 10 seconds later. MONOLITH AXXX :( *dies and farts a grenade under him*

[@EricGPP]

Ian probably bought this from Sidorovich for 20000 rubles.

[@octaaka4757]

nah cus that is a 5.45 version of a groza

[@angryburg]

He picked it up from the toilet in Yantar underground

[@lucasperuzzo7459]

Nah he payed 800 rubles to vampire

[@justsomeplantcells-]

@@EricGPP nah, barter is better deal

[@KaikuPen]

Did that as a kid way back in 2007... Only to realize that 9mm was the more plentiful option for the early to mid game going into the garbage and institute.

[@L5GUK]

Honestly I sometimes think that the story of how places such as the Royal Armouries got these examples as part of their collection has to be far more interesting than the firearm themselves.

[@MrSonofsonof]

I'm guessing it might have been a battlefield capture somewhere in Eastern Europe. The fact that it didn't come with all the bits and pieces reminds me of when you buy an iPad from a guy in the pub, but it doesn't come with the charger. I know he says it belongs to his grandmother, but you've got to be a little suspicious.

[@anaxis]

​@@MrSonofsonofIt could also be from Syria, since they've been using that place as a proving-ground for quite a while. And remember when a bunch of Russians got team-wiped when they tried to FAFO? Pepperidge Farms remembers. 😉

[@alltat]

If you have enough vodka, anything can fall off a truck.

[@TigerMethodSeduction]

Oh absolutely. Even many of those with a seemingly straightforward provenance are likely to have taken a very serreptitious, snaking route requiring the greasing of palms and spinning of yarn.

[@gallotwelve]

There are definitely some interesting stories there, and I've heard some accounts of how former curators went around the world to pick up unique items. Whether those stories are true however, I don't know. The backstories are perhaps what's most missing from the collection!

[@ethanzane7648]

But Ian, it's in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. it can't be over-hyped

[@justsomeplantcells-]

Say that to the monolith dudes

[@anuradhakularathna1384]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.🤩❤

[@Bandog23]

I actually don't even think it is

[@manender1020]

Stalker 2 this very moment

[@anuradhakularathna1384]

@@manender1020 🤩❤

[@ethanarias2911]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R fans see this gun the same way Fallout fans see a retro AR with wood furniture.

[@fajny_nick]

True

[@FatherGingertheFool]

NUH UHHH

[@masterzoroark6664]

STALKER fans love it Battlebit players either reveare it or hate it

[@DudeFromUA]

Kind of

[@_rodes]

Well, not gonna lie, in most cases that's true. Don't forget about FT-200M from Oblivion Lost.

[@Chaosrain112]

This Cheekis my Breekis perfectly, thank you Ian.

[@GA-br8wj]

Blyatstalker

[@justsomeplantcells-]

@@Chaosrain112 he ki’s on my cheeks until i breeki

[@yosefyonin6824]

I used to be a stalker like you... Until the Monolith called...

[@HTacianas]

The best part about this assembly is that nothing seems to be stopping the user from carrying the separate FCG around as a pocket grenade launcher

[@nikitajukov4915]

There is inbuild evolutionary mechanism to prevent this - humans have only two arms and breaking one is fairly unpleasant. Soviet GP-series of UBGLs were designed from different philosofy from US M79/203, actually originating from concept similar to japanese one of underbarrel rifle grenade (launched by live round, not blank) and like rifle grenades they have quite nasty recoil.

[@therideneverends1697]

@@nikitajukov4915 I love how they had to add that because they knew right off the bat someone would do it

[@Gameprojordan]

​@therideneverends1697 i mean yeah, having a safety device so a grenade launcher doesn't go off accidently is a pretty bare bones feature

[@parallel-knight]

Would be sick if they could use it stand off though. Or maybe with a stock like the one that the GP-25 uses same sorts look/concept.

[@causewaykayak]

There are unsubstantiated accounts from the memoirs of WW2 veterans who state that the 2" mortar has been used as a handheld grenade launcher. I wonder if anyone has an opinion on the likelihood of this being true. Thanks in advance for qualified opinion. CK.

[@cherenkov_blue]

NO WAY! I thought to myself yesterday, "It'll probably never happen but I hope Ian does a video on the Groza." You sir have made my week.

[@L5GUK]

I didn't realise it was basically a AKS74U Frankenstein'd into a bullpup to fire 9x39. I've got to say that I've only ever seen digital renditions in video games, so never paid that close attention to its finer details. But now it's been pointed out, it's really obvious. I guess that's why there's no clones/parts kit examples in the US since Krinks are already quite rare and difficult to get in the US. Not many people are going to be keen to waste a AKS74U parts kit and tax stamp for a calibre that they can't shoot.

[@PFCMittens]

I’m not even kidding I was JUST thinking this and I relate to this comment so hard

[@EM-zw4bj]

Now sell all your possessions and follow him

[@boonedox25s]

With the black gloves, black rifle, and black background, I thought my monitor was broken until Ian's pink wrist appeared 🤣

[@Stoic_grimace]

I thought I was having a neurological episode for a moment there 😅

[@matthayward7889]

Me too!

[@matthayward7889]

@@Stoic_grimace😅😅

[@dn9553]

Same. My eyes started to hurt.😂

[@forestcampbell8962]

I thought i was the only one.

[@zikavirustouhu]

Royal Armouries probably found this lying around in No.4 Reactor after the Brain Scorcher got shut down

[@nguyenquyetthang1326]

Nah, Ian fought a Monolith soldier with his Makarov and picked this one up from his body

[@parallel-knight]

Some mercs got jobs to bring out Russian military weapons out of the zone. Obvs getting in the first place is hard enough. Then they have to be taken to someone who could get them out. From what I heard it wasn’t cheap or easy, but as you can see they did get some out. Rumours some anomalies may have left the zone as well don’t tell duty though ahah.

[@parallel-knight]

@@nguyenquyetthang1326wouldn’t surprise me if Ian was with the mercs. Or maybe clear sky or just a stalker. Doubt he’d of joined duty and probably not freedom.

[@WanderlustZero]

Dr Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms and Artillery went in there himself, armed with an IL86

[@mk-ew9il]

​@@parallel-knightdefinitely an armorer at the mercs base in Dead City (deleted location)

[@SOUNDJUICE_OFFICIAL]

Absolutely CRAZY to see this absolute unicorn of a gun in Ians hands, must be such an honor...

[@Bialy_1]

Looks like something someone made in his own garage... You can see from the quality of the finish why Soviet Union collapsed. I also wonder if they did make this copy on machines from Germany that they took away in 1945 as war reparations...

[@johnbuttery1171]

... For the gun!

[@SOUNDJUICE_OFFICIAL]

@@johnbuttery1171 indeed, that as well!

[@Wetcorps]

Korobov someday.

[@chrisbrent7487]

The 100m to 250m are lined up of the front post of the rifle sight and the 300m to 400m off the post on the muzzle shroud. It is why each side graduates in opposite directions and the front rifle sight post is slightly offset to the left and the post on the muzzle off to the right.

[@gregoryfilin8040]

Genuine question, if the sights are both offset, would that not shift your point of aim?

[@kulibin7628]

Just erased my post stating the same. Also, otherwise it wouldn't make sense to make both the grenade sight and the shroud sight independently windage adjustable.

[@RhodokTribesman]

Given that the thing probably shoots 5-7MOA (total guess), the slight variation may not be a big issue

[@kulibin7628]

​@@gregoryfilin8040 No, because the front sight will always be to the right of the rear sight. If your grenade impacts way to the right then to zero you have to move the front sight way to the right. The grenade sight serves as a front sight when used with the rifle post and as a rear sight when used with the muzzle post. Moving the grenade sight to the right relative to the rifle post and then moving muzzle post to the right relative to the grenade sight assures that the front sight will always be to the right of rear sight.

[@speakerroach4015]

A good Stalker weapon

[@Pox0100]

get out of here stalker

[@Vincent-S]

I said come in, don't just stand there

[@charlesdemers1197]

You can’t go there!

[@NSixtyFour]

only if you are Reech, sdalger

[@ifyoudontfailyouarenoteven6210]

Holster your weapon, stalker.

[@aleksandartokin6914]

Groza is such a funky system, I wish there were proper clones or kits for these

[@rucker69]

I could have sworn there were? Not great ones, maybe, but I seem to recall that efforts were made.

[@jojomasterson4852]

There is a thread on akfiles about building clones, it is slowly moving along

[@aaronskuse2207]

There actually is, Stuff and Things BPK. It’s a conversion kit for Zastava AK pistols, and because there is no stock, it remains a pistol afterwards.

[@ronlasiere4114]

You may also want to look into the A3 triad system (esp the one for PSA JAKL 300blk) Not a clone, but same vibe. And more usable IMO

[@Goc4ever]

The OTs-14 Groza has got to be one of the most extremely exotic guns i've ever laid my eyes on and what makes it more unique is the fact it's modular like the Vietnam War-era Stoner 63. Your videos are always a treat to watch Ian, you never cease to amaze me.

[@Arthurzeiro]

I can't resist... Get out of here Stalker

[@AchingScaphoid]

Don't just stand there, I said come in!

[@Mister_Ce]

ah nu cheeky breeki iv damke

[@Mister_Ce]

Marked one?!!! What the hell?!!!

[@zone_braker]

Hello, Hello.

[@kiraquin5198]

I got some information that might well be of use to you, stalker

[@danielwolf3813]

Deadly anomalies, dangerous mutants, anarchists and bandits... None of them will stop Duty on its triumphant march towards saving the planet! Am I the only one who know this gun from S.T.A.L.K.E.R ? :D ( btw, great video as always ! )

[@ZeroHxC07]

Duty 🤨

[@betteroywoth2445]

CLEAR SKY 4 EVAAAAA RAAAAAAAAAAAH

[@Constable.Chauvin]

​@@betteroywoth2445 average clear sky member

[@Shieldv13]

​@@betteroywoth2445 difenetly forever in cnpp

[@chief1721]

one look at the comment section told me that most people here know this gun from the STALKER series. Me included. Though I gravitate more to the FN 2000 because it has Halo vibes (my other favorite game series... OG Bungie at least)

[@Spaccheesr]

Man, I cheeki'd and Breeki'd hard with this bad boy during my several thousand hour tour when I was deployed to the CNPP.

[@c.j.1089]

It's interesting to see how kludged together this weapon was. Reused receivers with missing components, trap doors from removed accessories, etc. The whole design looks like it was on an extreme budget.

[@ВячеславФролов-д7я]

And it was an extremely budget weapon. The factory was almost bankrupt, it needed to sell something "new" to the army, but the budget was close to zero

[@ivanmonahhov2314]

1994-1995 aka borderline hunger years, estimated 8 million people died

[@RWKIN]

@@ivanmonahhov2314что за хрень Вы тут разносите? Какие 8 млн погибших?

[@ivanmonahhov2314]

@@RWKIN избыточная смертность после распада СССР на его территории

[@RWKIN]

@@ivanmonahhov2314 это бредни конспирологов, не распространяйте эту чушь. PS От водки в СССР по такой аналогии тоже миллионы погибли

[@Nukle0n]

That AK upper in there just makes this look bubba as all hell

[@adamcichon6957]

Just a friendly reminder... there's no such thing as "AK upper", it's "reciever" only :)

[@Nukle0n]

@@adamcichon6957 the dust cover then

[@ouroboricscribe3201]

How else would we know it's Russian? Jokes aside, I like it because it is clearly a personal touch by the designer that provides no benefits at all.

[@comraderevo2362]

Haven''t eally noticed it until now.... Although I always joke it as a bulpup AK

[@666Natalia]

This gun is beyond rare, thank you for doing this.

[@paulsteaven]

Hello my fellow S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and GFL players. It's been a while.

[@ian_987]

Into the Radius fans saying hi also

[@nah5476]

as far as i understand, Groza version that was depicted in GFL is Groza 1 which using integrated suppressor man, ASK is really kick ass for making her art

[@СаняБандит-б3ю]

ohayo shikikan

[@aliceakosota797]

Did Not Expect so many Stalker References I love you guys and Ian's channel

[@resurgam_b7]

Reading the comments it seems that I am not alone in recognizing this gun from STALKER. I never noticed on the in-game model that it is basically just a bastardized AK-74 SU but the shared parts seem pretty obvious now upon seeing it up close. It is still super interesting how they put it together. I love the idea of a field customizable, modular system, that you can quickly configure for a particular mission, though I do see the opportunity for some pretty substantial down sides to a design like that. Ah well, I shall continue to employ the rule of cool while I saunter though the zone and leave the woes of real world design to be endured by the archives of historians like Ian 😂

[@therideneverends1697]

Its a solid concept, held back by both the place and time it was developed an the logistical issues that plague all modular field configurable guns, useing an AK as the base definitely did not do it any favors either

[@walterscientist]

USSOCOM have the SOPMOD kit for their M4-format guns which is kinda like that.

[@elektro_knete792]

One of my weapons in the original S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series Very versatile

[@runaway_slav]

The KZbin notification the lightning, and opening up Ian’s video each time is the Groza

[@nikitajukov4915]

Great to see the (in)famous Groza, even in its late export model variation, in hands of Ian. Only little complain would be absence of the notiob of modified gaz system - 9x39 round need to pick gas very close to chamber to operate reliably, but Groza uses completely standart AKS-74U parts, such as gas block and gaz pistion - so to achieve it OTs-14 has gas hole drilled in the very start of the barrel and then small diameter tube (it can be seen with top handguard lifted running bellow gas tube) running from gas hole to gas block. Probably it may be the most interesting part of OTs-14 system, differenting it from all the other AK-bullpups.

[@BumpHeadRacing]

it looks like the rear lug of the firing grip attachment mechanism is actually on a gas block, because there’s also a small tube running forward from that block to what would normally be the -74u gas block, take a look from 10:14 to see what I mean. Ian doesn’t specifically mention it, but I suspect that’s what’s going on, and I think some of the recent American produced 9x39 AK conversions ended up doing something similar to tap gas super close to the chamber but still retain the normal AK operating system

[@BumpHeadRacing]

we must have been typing out that at the same time 😅

[@tiortedrootsky]

Correct. Sad Ian didnt mention it.

[@kulibin7628]

Yup. M1 Carbine-ish gas port connected to AR-ish gas block connected to AR-ish gas tube that transports gases forward to AK-ish gas block that redirects them up and back to "standard" gas tube/piston. Unlike in AR that AR-ish tube is not accessible for cleaning. Same gas system as Tiss which is (more ?) proper predecessor to Groza. Same designers, incidentally. I don't think 9x39 was inherently the problem. It was the short barrel that within general design architecture brought the conventional gas port location right next to the muzzle which ultimately resulted in reliability issues. In Ksyuha it's solved by a muzzle booster.

[@SeriousApache]

People: (photoshopping bullpup AK for cursed gun memes) Soviet Union: "I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you!"

[@tnd1488]

Wait till you see Korobov's designs

[@danglinbolas5547]

​@@tnd1488 Ah, the man who made a service bullpup for Mars campaign, but somehow it was in our timeline where USSR invaded Czechoslovakia instead. Talk about transdimensional artifacts.

[@SecuR0M]

Many such cases.

[@chaosgod5835]

There's Ukrainian bullpup ak called malyuk

[@GENOSAD]

I guess that's how the Soviets really fell apart, they got QPU misaligned.

[@maxcactus7]

The rifling in that 'nade launcher is CRAZY!!

[@borisslavk01nolastname91]

ah, yes, my favorite gun in S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

[@wrath231]

It looks badass🎉🎉🎉

[@alexanderhildermann9761]

Not VSS?😂

[@borisslavk01nolastname91]

@@alexanderhildermann9761 that too

[@UsaKen_PMC]

From vtuber community to Gun Jesus... The Zone is too small.

[@borisslavk01nolastname91]

@@UsaKen_PMC nah, it's just our Merc instincts kicking in

[@Matt-md5yt]

glad you covered this cool bullpup. it's cool in the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games

[@michaelblacktree]

This weapon reminds me of 1980s action movies. I love it. 😎

[@johanbjorkman1914]

Sci-fi too

[@KyussTheWalkingWorm]

That'd be bullpups in general, cus that gun was designed in the 90s. And people in the West know it from playing late 2000s Ukrainian video games.

[@David_Crayford]

Delighted that you flew over here to demo this special unicorn. 🙂

[@NohorseRU]

The British Royal Armouries Museum? The one that houses thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history? Jokes aside, I've fallen in love with the design ever since I first saw it in STALKER. Never knew it was essentially a chassis for an AKSU or that it came with a sick-ass briefcase like that.

[@TheAlchemistsBrewery]

God bless you Jesus! I was waiting for this since 2007 S.T.A.L.K.E.R. came out.

[@tsuchinokoz5036]

When I was youngster in about 10 years ago and didn’t know much, I saw a listing for one in the case complete. I always wondered if it was a custom job done in the field, or if the rifle came as such! So glad I finally know, thanks! The one I saw was red felt lined for what it’s worth!

[@massrdmdoer7348]

just turned off my S.T.A.L.K.E.R game, this is perfect

[@Wollwolff]

About the grenade launcher sight: 1 - 2,5 is going downwards while 3 - 4 goes upwarts which means the 1 - 2,5 is meant to be used with the rearsight (probably the regular rifle rearsight) while 3 - 4 is meant to be used with the frontsight of the grenade launcher.

[@Rogus_mtb]

I think - no, it is for direct and indirect fire

[@chetmanley220]

No, one side indexes off the front rifle sight (not the rear) and the other side indexes off the front sight blade on the muzzle shroud. That’s why each are offset their respective positions. Not a bad compromise. I’m more curious about the holes/dots corresponding to range. Maybe a low light deal? Maybe for some tritium or lume paint idk.

[@Wollwolff]

​@@chetmanley220 well, the rear or the front rifle sight don't change the general concept. but you're probably right since the front sight would be in the way if you used the rear sight

[@Wollwolff]

@@Rogus_mtb that would be the result of what i said

[@johnsanko4136]

I always love seeing how much the Russians were willing to work around the AK receiver instead of trying a more dedicated base. Also, somewhere in Texas, Brandon Herrera just popped a stiffy and doesn't know why.

[@lscisawpilsnowicz3610]

we call it unification

[@andreipetrenko2422]

Because Hugo Schmeisser died in 1953 and with him so did Kalashnikov's ability to "invent" new firearms.

[@sd.kfz.2224]

Well, it was the same getting US top brass to abandon M14 and then AR-15 platforms, minus the US DoD humongous budget.

[@joost1120]

@@andreipetrenko2422 Hugo Schmeisser had nothing to do with Kalashnikov though? The AK-47 was produced in the Izhevsk factory where Hugo Schmeisser worked, but production only moved to that factory after the AK-47 was approved for trials. German engineers were also prohibited from working on any classified projects, including the AK platform. You might assume the AK design was based on the Stg-44, but that is complete nonsense. Other than it's role in combat as an assault rifle, it is completely unrelated. The AK platform is much more closely related to the M1 Garand.

[@andreipetrenko2422]

@joost1120 I'm going to assume you are genuinely naive. If you watch Ian's video on early AK models, pay extra attention on how the first AKs were stamped (while every Soviet firearm above pistol caliber was machined) and how Russians mysteriously lost the ability to stamp receivers right when all those useless Germans from Erma and Gustloff went back to Germany. It took geniuses at Izhevsk 7 years to come up with stamped AKM. Also, you might wonder why Browning, Stoner, Scmeisser, Tokarev came up with numerous designs, yet the "genius" produced absolute bupkis in six decades after "designing" AK.

[@MatoVuc]

I love Max Popenker's commentary on this and the other 9x39mm weapons in one of your older vids

[@stonesia1]

Safety latch being furthest away possible from your hands is wild.

[@robertkalinic335]

I dont expect people in actual combat to be playing with it too often.

[@manfallout91]

I just started playing STALKER this past few weeks and this Channel just started one the weapon in the game. Kudos 👏 😄

[@codyayo6158]

Ian youre a gem

[@PlasmaStickMan]

Thank you, Groza-4, for your lack of recoil in Phantom Forces; you have served me well over the years.

[@JACK-bp6xz]

Any chance for a Taiwanese WolfA1( T91) rifle video? I know there's a few of them full auto T91s floating around in the U.S. 😊

[@CalzaTheFox]

We going back to Pripyat with this one boys!

[@GerinoMorn]

Damn, if Ian's arm is not in shot it looks like B&W footage xD

[@highlandoutsider]

While making no judgement on the actual practically, I do like the thinking behind the whole "case of parts" idea.

[@Sam_Guevenne]

5:29 i thought the video was in black and white until i saw Ian's skin 😂

[@CryoDesCoberic]

This is one of my all time favorite weapon designs, thanks for sharing!

[@TheCatBilbo]

There's a definite, early SA80 vibe to it - reminds me of the carbine version.

[@apeshitcrazyman]

FANTASTIC! Great job Ian! Thanks for the overview! 👍👍

[@vvvvvvvvvwvvvvw]

For the grenade launcher sight: Since one side has the numbers in decending order, and the other in acending order, the second part of the sight has to be infront of the flip-up leaf in one case, and behind it in the other. If you look at the side view (like at 1:13) the only option i can see is using the front sight blade of the carry handle for 100 to 250 meters and the sight blade of the barrel shroud for 300 to 400 meters. Which would also explain why the "hooks" on the 1-2,5 markings go to the cerner line of the gun, whereas the other hooks as well as the sight blade on the shroud are offset to the right.

[@aidanfarnan4683]

That gizmo to switch fire control from the rifle to the Grenade is realy neat.

[@ProtesttheAntagonist]

The grenade launcher sighting uses 3 different sights from what I can see. For ranges up to 250m you use the front sight on the carry handle and align it with whatever distance mark you want to shoot. For ranges between 300 and 400m you use the grenade launcher sight in combination with the little nub on the muzzle. Kind of direct fire vs indirect fire sights.

[@ZeroFoxtrotGolf]

Hat's off to Ian for rocking what looks like a classic Casio watch.

[@drapedup76]

Perhaps the tiny holes are for when shooting into sunlight or bright light, the markings would be hard to see but light would pour through the holes giving the range

[@BleedingUranium]

Awesome to finally see this covered, it's such a neat rifle! :D

[@meadball1]

For a split second I thought you said "... assassinate a hostage, rescue a terrorist..." 😅

[@Ostenjager]

That would not be inaccurate if we’re talking about Russians.

[@Sabrowsky]

hey, hey, hey, they don't "assassinate" hostages. Hostages dying is just part of the cartoonish amounts of collateral damage that russian Federal Security Forces tend to inflict in "rescue" operations

[@nuclearzerg]

@@Ostenjager haha. hohol moment. slava ukraine :D

[@Bob-xv6un]

@@fridrekr7510 Or Beslan

[@alexanderhowarth6460]

In Soviet Russia...

[@darknessml6145]

the little single trigger selector i find is quite clever

[@JohnHughesChampigny]

Oh, god. It's a military version of those guys who spend all day in the office modifying their window manager's configuration --- I know, I'll move the scroll bar to the leftt, the go away button to the lower right, change the system font to comic sans...

[@Rancor12]

Awesome to see such an interesting weapon. All the 9x39 guns are just so fascinating. I hope you can get your hands on a 9A-91 next.

[@abdou.the.heretic]

Blagavarim tebya za to chto raskril slogam tvayim kozni vragov nashix. Zachiti monolith bratya!!!

[@manender1020]

A) blagotvorim B) slogom C) tvoyim D) zashiti and the sentence seems to have wrong grammar

[@abdou.the.heretic]

@@manender1020 yeah and Russian is written in Latin rather than in Cyrillic, my poor transcription using zero IPA symbols is definitely a grammatical problem. Geez. Here's 3000 roubles, go have a few colds ones in 100 Rads Bar on me.

[@Swangmich]

I have been waiting so long for this gun to show up here. It's my favorite and the one I wish I could have most in the states.

[@Lim-iwnl]

can't believe the soviets gave it an inherent 200% increase in damage at night

[@desired397]

I love how so many weapons from Russia are basically just someone starting with an AK and modding it like crazy until you get something new (but visually has elements of the original platform). Found a design thats bulletproof and decided not to mess (too much) with a good thing.

[@Thenonsocial]

Never thought id see forgotten weapons chickening out the comments section.

[@thesenate1844]

Might not even be him, KZbin likes to do it automatically

[@brainkill7034]

Great overview on the system. Thank you for sharing this! Gun Jesus may be a bit of a quip or a joke but I’m quite sure I would have never seen this without your dedication to finding these anomalies and overcoming the bureaucratic red tape to allow you to showcase them. Thank you for sharing!

[@ОлегКозлов-ю9т]

The emphasis is on the last sillable (grozA). Means "Thunderstorm", btw

[@igorthelight]

True! "Гроза"

[@MrKotBonifacy]

Well, not really. In a figurative sense, yes - as a thunderstorm might be a fearsome - but the core meaning is "fear", "threat" or "terror". There's a good reason we translate "Иван Грозный" as "Ivan the Terrible" (albeit "Horrible" would be still better translation), not as "Ivan the Thunderstorm", innit? Or how about the capital of Chechnya - Грозный - "Stormy Town", eh?

[@ismarwinkelman5648]

The trigger in both rifle and grenade launcher mode looks and sounds anything but crisp

[@alekseykuleshov111]

Actually waited for this video for 10 years. Amazing! Thanks)

[@doompotty]

Ever since I found your channel when it was first starting out I knew if anyone would make a proper video on this tho g it’d be you, Ian. Glad I ended up being correct.

[@nh1774]

Yuri Lebedev is one of engineers who created Groza indeed. But PL-15 was engineered by Dmitry Lebedev.

[@Real_Claudy_Focan]

About the grenade range front panel, it's for direct and "indirect" fire Right side is for low and more straight trajectory and the other is for "lobbed" path

[@Mister_Ce]

I am surprised that nobody has said yet ah nu cheeki breeki iv damke!!!

[@NobleEmpire]

Unusual straight magazine, never saw such one before

[@Kreozot2D]

Groza was my favourite gun and my main choice in Stalker games. I also hoped for it to be adopted by the military. It looks so greaat.

[@manender1020]

I'm pretty sure 9x39 has some serious problems with accuracy

[@KebeQ]

It's more that it has a lot of drop. ​@@manender1020

[@102ndsmirnov7]

Not really. It's just a subsonic round so 300-400m is the upper limit of what the cartridge can do. Within that range it is pretty accurate. After all it was made for precise silent killing at a relatively short range.​@@manender1020

[@rob1129]

It's enjoyable everytime, I'm introduced to a firearm I never knew existed !

[@shrimpanzy7627]

Just out of curiosity why are comments turned off on the MAGAL video?

[@My_Name_Suc]

Cuz some people aren't civil and only know to spam free palpatine everywhere they go like a disease

[@hesh4727]

I was literally just searching for a video by you about this gun 2 days ago. It's like you read my mind Ian!

[@salvadormedina9099]

Morning Ian. What's for breakfast?

[@Nikolai1939]

Your momma

[@wraithcadmus]

Well the Armouries are in Leeds, so statistically, Greggs.

[@libertycosworth8675]

That was a fun video Ian! I just smiled when you put the words suppressor, gassy and krinkov together. 🤣

[@dak4465]

The spiritual ancestor to the m40a1 pulse rifle

[@patrickbateman312]

non

[@JH-lo9ut]

Got that same casio watch. Classic.

[@johnjacobjinglehimer4568]

Over-hyped bullpup Do we really want to go there Ian?

[@BishopGantry]

Neat Groza one of my top 3 aesthetically pleasing bullpups out there🤩

[@ZackThoreson]

I always thought it was really cool in games and just looking at it. Ki d of seems redundant with the 74u and Val. Side note, when has mission specific modularity ever worked out?

[@TheJCJexe]

Wow, very interesting and unique trigger mechanism, never seen that before.

[@blitoris]

black raven black raven circling above the grave.

[@LeadHeadBOD]

My information might well be of use to you, stalker.

[@ifyoudontfailyouarenoteven6210]

@@LeadHeadBOD If somebody just help me.

[@Will_M600]

Its way higher quality than i expected honestly

[@supaorigamisensei]

Kinda reminds me of the Australian copy of the aug, the Austeyr EF88 A modular bullpup in .223 but can use both grenade launcher including the 203 for the 40 mike mike And suppressor at the same time Could also swap out different sized barrels with ease and go from carbine to a squad automatic weapon with bipod And use scopes too I can’t remember but if it could use drums I’m pretty sure it could but it was also issued with 42 round mags

[@Dhips.]

Ian is the only left handed person I've seen who wears his watch on his left wrist.

[@julianb5844]

Left handed as well. I usually do too and did in the military as well. Can’t really say why except it feels more comfortable.

[@mikeobrien7724]

Love how the first comments are all stalker related 😂

[@toddrife8375]

Thank you Ian with another informative video.

[@AWE_ZIOLIO]

still way much better than infamous L76

[@G00gleIsUtterCrap]

That looks seriously cool

[@thekraken1173]

Hope this gun will be in Stalker 2 this Autumn

[@102ndsmirnov7]

Is Stalker 2 still coming out? With the war in Ukraine I thought development might've stopped.

[@thekraken1173]

@@102ndsmirnov7 On 5th of September

[@thekraken1173]

@@102ndsmirnov7 On 5th of September

[@tiortedrootsky]

11:00 you forgot to mention one of the weirdest features! The AR style gas tube above the barrel. Gas port is right next to the chamber, gasses go forward to the front sight, where they push the piston back.

[@MakeYourVision]

>М4 и Кольты появляются в каждой первой игре и каждом втором боевике >Это ок >Гроза появилась в трех с половиной играх и одном фильме за последние 20 лет >Овер хайпд 👍

[@bulukaki7063]

My guess on how to aim the grenade launcher: align the front iron sight & grenade leaf sight for 100-250m (white numbers); and align the barrel shroud post & grenade leaf sight for 300-400m (red numbers)