Q&A 30: ACRs, Besas, and Czechoslovakia

[@coldwarrior7812]

My Dad carried a 1928 or 1921 Thomson in WWII and loved it. Told me it fired from closed bolt in semi and open bolt in auto. He hated the newer models that didn't do that and fought to keep his "old" gun. Finally lost his original during Battle of Bulge but found another by March so he still had one when he entered Germany proper. Said it was surprisingly accurate in semi.

[@dbmail545]

"Load a Mosin from stripper clips you will hate life" So true. I have always believed that the magazine release on the Mosin was to remedy rim-lock.

[@bubba200874426]

Rimmed cartridges in box magazines are pain. Loading .30 carbine mags from stripper clips is not super great anyway. I really wouldn't want to put them together.

[@rednecksniper4715]

Loading the clips correctly is the remedy to rim lock

[@kurtvanduran7725]

I occasionally find my mosin magazine wont feeding after loading a stripper clip, I find that when that happens toss a loose round in the chamber and fire it and that usually knocks loose whatever was causing the problem and it usually feeds fine after... strange but so it is

[@moronoftheoxyvarietys489]

Not using a Mosin is a remedy to rim lock.

[@DeadlyPlatypus]

Ian: some of the concepts you're discussing for accuracy are CEP (Circular Error Probable) or the individual components which are REP (Range Error Probable) and DEP (Deflection Error Probable). We use these primarily for measuring the accuracy of air dropped munitions in the military, but they can be adapted to rifle accuracy. It's too complicated to discuss in the comments (they're statistical distributions), but would make an interesting addendum to this video.

[@bubba200874426]

I'm picturing it as a standard deviation graph. After you get a certain point from the center, anything outside can be considered an aberration(usually to 90-95% confidence) That would be your expected cone of fire. That takes a large sample size to arrive at, however.

[@DeadlyPlatypus]

@@bubba200874426 That's basically what it is. We use confines that require either 50% or 90% of all weapons to fall within the CEP (at least, predictively). Everything outside of (essentially) 3 std deviations is considered a "gross error." We still calculate and express it in weapons' accuracy data, but generally as its own catergory (much like throwing out "fliers" at the rifle range). i.e. - "unless you miss wildly (gross error), 50% or 90% (depending on your preference) of your shots will land within __inches of the aimpoint (in any direction)" REP and DEP can be MORE useful as you look at range error (or, if applied to rifle ballistics: vertical deflection) and deflection error (or, if applied to rifle ballistics: horizontal deflection) as separate data points, which can help you determine WHY you aren't always hitting the point of aim (especially if there's a trend in error value in one plain compared to the other; think Ballistic Coeffecient affecting wind drift more than bullet "drop").

[@FIREBRAND38]

Actually he's referring to measuring groups using the *Mean Radius* . The CEP is actually defined as the radius of the circle about the mean point of impact (MPI) of the group which contains 50% of the shots fired. This circle has a radius of 1.1774σ or standard deviations. A circle with a radius of 3 std would actually contain approximately 99% of the shots fired when you do the math. But Ian was only talking about measuring groups, not using those measurements to calculate hit probability.

[@UlmontWeathers]

Parts interchangeability between tanks and planes isn't a thing unless you're the USA and you're putting Stearman engines in Shermans.

[@spartan8705]

Or Britain, and shoving a supercharger-less Merlin in your Cromwell/Challenger/Comet/Centurion

[@wer2young2die]

or USSR, putting attack helicopter engine into T-80 tanks

[@samuelferrell9257]

USA in WW2 : put a ma'deuce on it!

[@Snadzies]

At 1.6 mill you had better have documentation that Samuel Colt used the revolver to massage his prostate.

[@coaxill4059]

Maybe that's why he was so grumpy after the invention of the Dragoon.

[@niallhiggins2342]

I read this comment before I got there and had so many questions

[@mcintoshpc]

Just come on down to the colt museum you can see the prototype that he did it with ;)

[@Pleksilasi]

@@mcintoshpc What? Seriously?

[@Colonel_Bat_Guano]

​@@Pleksilasi12 bucks to take a sniff

[@Wabbitsw]

Just pointing out how awesome it is that you add time stamps for each question.

[@yop_cholo]

Haha, I knew the last question would bring the FAMAS to the table, it had to. Believe me Ian, a lot of French shooters would love to get their hands on a FAMAS valorisé...

[@markyoung2981]

As always a very interesting and informative session, thank you for your time posting these presentations.

[@MilsurpMikeChannel]

On the enbloc clips... It depends on which ones you talk about. I learned about this while researching the Berthier. The Austro-Hungarian clips were well built but cost prohibitive. The clips for the Gew88 were absolute junk but cheap (perhaps a big reason for the development of stripper clips). Berthier came up with a clip using spring steel that could be made in a single operation with a workbench press (this was later applied to Garand Clips) which made them strong and very cheap.

[@SolidSioux1987]

Coffee, breakfast and Forgotten Weapons, awesome way to start the day!

[@chrisloUSA]

These q and A's always make my drive home from work enjoyable and quick.

[@MrPier101]

As for forgotten weapons I'd like to see in new production, number one on my list is the EM-2. Good rifle killed by politics.

[@justinlance5239]

Me to as I always thought 280british was a awesome cartridge.

[@williamflowers9435]

Chassepot to Famas is worth every penny and you should be extremely proud of the finished product. I hope many more books are coming!!!

[@sambaggins2798]

Special operations is now getting a new SIG upper with an integral surge suppressor. I’m retired now but the guys still on teams like em.

[@FIREBRAND38]

Ian, you're thinking of measuring groups using Mean Radius which is one of the most useful. Actually the most common measurement used is Extreme Spread which is simply the difference between the centers of the two farthest shots which is simple to measure and understand but leaves out a lot of useful data.

[@forestcampbell8962]

Nice! I was just wondering yesterday when the next Q&A would go up.

[@charlesadams1721]

I agree completely with you concerning your book and the production of an ebook. On a significant level, the concept of the author(s) intellectual property that had to be produced “by the sweat of your brow” and time and effort is a significant factor. As someone had used reference and technical books in various disciplines, what I’ve really wanted since Personal computers have been available is a searchable index on the computer on a easy to use program. Especially with a large book, to have the ability to search for a term or possibly a phrase and be informed via the program be what page numbers to access would really save time. (Remember, this was my idea developed bay in ancient times, like the late 1970’s and early 1980’s using computers like Data General minis, HP’s version of their technical personal computers and handhelds, and the later with IBM ‘s PC’’s) So when you mentioned the research adjuncts to your book made me you think you have a somewhat similar idea for a product. Hope all continues to be successful.

[@trentongoering5060]

I cant wait to get home from work and relax and watch this!

[@triggerfingerstudios]

Hey Ian, I've got a Daewoo DR-200 i could supply for a video or mud test. (And a lefty friendly Walther P5!) Drop me a note

[@BennyLlama39]

Didn't Daewoo make electronics back in the day?

[@EB-xl6db]

@@BennyLlama39 still do

[@nindger4270]

@@BennyLlama39 yes, but Daewoo was a conglomerate that had heavy industry and defence divisions as well. These kinds of companies operating in several different industries instead of specializing in one single field were very common in many countries for a long time, Japan being another one. A good example is Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi is not a company, it's a brand name under which about 200 companies operate.

[@triggerfingerstudios]

@@BennyLlama39 Still do!

[@paulshayter1113]

Robin Schuhmacher, Kawasaki is another company like that. Really known as a motorcycle company, Kawasaki could shut down it's motorcycle division and it probably wouldn't even be a blip in the company's bottom line.

[@necrophagus9]

Nice calamityware cup! My wife loves that stuff, I've purchased a lot of it. Great video as always.

[@CarmenAckermann]

I have a Mauser C 96. I saw a crazy configuration of 8 of them being used as an anti aircraft gun in a WW1 plane.

[@andrewwaterman9240]

I've seen that photo. If they were Schnellfeuers, which didn't enter production until 1932, that would mean 160 rounds in about 1-1/3 seconds, and then God knows how long to reload. If conventional C96's, you'd be limited to 10 salvoes of 8 rounds each, and even longer to reload. An interesting but impractical idea which was unsuccessful.

[@CarmenAckermann]

Davien McCarty, I paid $1,599 for it and I bought it 4 months ago. Sorry but it’s not for sale. My C96 is probably my favorite gun I have. I’m actually a women. I’m a history professor and a PhD. I have always been fascinated with military technology. Ever since I was 18 I have been collecting military surplus firearms. My C 96 is number 25 in my collection of antique firearms.

[@brasstard7.627]

Look up the ppsh41 being used as a aircraft gun. They bolted dozens together in ww2 on the bottom of an airplane

[@CarmenAckermann]

Brasstard 7.62, that doesn’t surprise me at all. The US tried mounting Thompson SMG’s on aircraft wings as well. I believe that was one of John Thompson’s attempts at selling the Tommy Gun after WW1 ended and he couldn’t get any customers.

[@CarmenAckermann]

Andrew Waterman, the Austria Hungarian Air Force had a rig with 10 C96 pistols with 10 to 25 round magazines. So you had between 100 and 250 rounds before you had to reload the 10 C96’s. This rig was made between 1915 and 1916. My C96 is my 25th military surplus firearm. I’m a female history professor with a PhD. Being into history I have always been fascinated with military technology. I started collecting milsurp firearms when I was 18. My first was a Mauser K98k.

[@cokoladkacz347]

I just love his way to explain any problem he was given in question :O !!!!

[@CAPNMAC82]

Probably the only modern "machining" thing we can point to would be in digital heat controls for tempering and heat cycling metals. Not having to judge color by eyeball.

[@TheOnlyNate115]

not sure if its truely relavent to the channel bit there are 4 old german ww1 era "war ships" up for sale on ebay and i instantly thought theyd be a perfect addition on this channel as one of your great light hearted style videos

[@johnmorgan1629]

I believe, Matt Carricker was in the auction room when the Dragoon went up. No it wasn't him, that wouldn't have been a don't tell Mere, that would have been keep Mere away from me!

[@TheWhoamaters]

He sent Creepy Cooter and Lt. Dan instead

[@junichiroyamashita]

I know for sure,the forgotten weapon that i want is the volley rifle,but there are A LOT of good designs ideas in all the weapons we saw,something that would utilise them or make them viable would certainly have my money.

[@aaronrushton1]

39:48 Ian’s slip of the tongue got me imagining a giant mp38 on a tripod served by a crew

[@diestormlie]

My understanding on the BESA was that here simply wasn't thought to be the time to convert it to metric and .303 before a war broke out. So they just carted the factory to England, set it up, and got to work.

[@gunner678]

More or less actually.

[@madseavets]

@@gunner678 Convert it to metric? Don't you mean convert it FROM metric?

[@gunner678]

BESA: We simply needed every bit of kit we had available so, the BESA stayed in service right through and it was a good gun. The Aussies of course used the vickers water cooled in their Sentinel cruiser tank.

[@konnigkratz]

To add on to the answer given about the BESA, it's the same answer for why the Sten was 9mm - if you are fighting a war and are initially losing/on the backfoot, it makes sense to make use of captured ammunition. Given the Italians in North Africa were generous enough to gift us brits with tanks, MG's, AA guns, spaghetti, etc free of charge (turn to camera: we shot them or captured it).

[@Kaboomf]

On automatically dropping magazines: Ian is absolutely right in saying militaries don’t want magazines to drop uncontrollably. I’m a former Norwegian infantryman; our training really stressed the importance of retaining empty mags. Summertime the shooting range was a muddy swamp, wintertime it was several feet of powdery snow. Anything you dropped would immediately disappear, and you were only issued five rifle magazines. Loose one, and you had to pay for a replacement. Wartime magazine loss would have been even worse, as that adds to the resupply problem.

[@uallas5va]

You answered my question in the 42 min range. It was the placement of your jacket's pocket that led me to ask. Still enjoying the video.

[@deeptha1975]

The Johnson M1941 (which slightly predates the FG42) and M1944 LMGs also had the closed bolt - semi / open bolt auto feature

[@sailingmaster]

I don't think it would be crazy to think at some point there won't be any more print copies of Chassepot to FAMAS and not enough incentive to print more. At that point, an ebook version would be prudent and still sell.

[@trebizond790]

That beginning was a little Troy McClure :p Little drink, then surprised by camera - 'Oh, hi, glad you could stop by. . . '

[@stevenschumacher5566]

To me, the most interesting "Forgotten Weapons" are those that might not have been very successful, but important lessons were learned from it for future designs. Regaurding the last question, I think the M-1 Garand is a perfect example. It's a well made gun, interesting, but one could never be successful making new ones for the price point of available used ones on the market.

[@topdog4578]

FN HAMR, is another one that fires open bolt and closed bolt.. ( Heat Adaptive Modular Rifle ). It's built on the scar platform..

[@farmerbrown84]

Thanks, I knew FN made one - I couldn't think of it...

[@matthewspencer5086]

The British Army was still adopting new loadings of 7.92x57mm ammuntion for the Besa gun in 1967ish, so I think there must have been more than a couple of thousand of them! (Wikipedia says more than 39,000 of the 7.92mm version and more than 3,000 of the 15mm version. The former number sounds about right to me, but I had thought that only about 800 armoured cars were made that mounted the 15mm. It is possible that some were mounted in pillboxes: I know that some naval .5" Vickers guns were. No point, really, having a pillbox that couldn't hurt a light tank or half-track.) The 15mm Besa was MUCH more powerful than the .50" BMG, and in those vehicles that carried it, it was really used as a belt-fed anti-tank rifle more than a machine gun, because even bolted to an armoured car it was difficult to control in automatic fire. (It was too big, really, to be a secondary weapon in a tank, so it was a primary weapon in some types of armoured car.) 15mm Besa rounds would penetrate 30mm of steel armour at a couple of hundred yards, which would have caused problems for the sorts of tank that the Germans might have been able to transport to invasion beaches in Southern England in 1940-1941. As a boy I did own a 15mm Besa round, but at that age was too ignorant to realise what it was, only that it was bigger than the puny .50" BMG and .5" Vickers rounds owned by schoolfriends.

[@euroweasel1088]

The 15mm Besa was also used as the main gun of the Light tank Mk VIC. They saw quite a lot of service in North Africa in 1940 and 1941. The 15mm Besa was certainly more powerful than the .50" machine guns, but less powerful than the Soviet 14.5mm. In practice it proved to be marginal against Panzer II already in France. In NA it worked well against the Italian L3/35 (a.k.a. CV-35) tankettes, but nearly useless against the Italian medium tanks once they appeared there.

[@madseavets]

Matthew Spencer There was also the Vickers Mk VIC light tank, but only about 130 of those were built. Pz III and IV had max 30mm armour in 1940..

[@matthewspencer5086]

@@madseavets Could the Germans realistically have landed PZ IV from the improvised landing craft they had in 1940-1941? I am remembering books about "Operation Sealion" which suggested that only their older, lighter tanks could have been landed at the time without a dock and a crane. At that time, dealing with what could actually be landed on an invasion beach was the only thing that mattered. The landing craft was not like the ones the allies used in 1944: it was a sort of barge with a wooden ramp to get the tank over the bows. Air Vice Marshall Park, who had taken part in the Gallipoli landings in WW1, reassured army commanders in his sector that a German Invasion would fail in 72 hours and politely asked them not to blow up his airfields at the first sign of a landing!

[@madseavets]

@@matthewspencer5086 They had submersible Panzer III and IV but they had problems landing them. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101II-MW-5674-45%2C_%C3%9Cbungen_mit_Panzer_III_f%C3%BCr_Unternehmen_Seel%C3%B6we.jpg The landing barges/ships weren't very sophisticated. Whatever thay landed could have been handled by 2 pdrs or 3 inch AA guns (which were being replaced by 3.7 inch and were more mobile) or any artillery piece.

[@ANonymous-bh1un]

You no longer want the Burgess folding shotgun back in production?

[@fatmanbravo6]

What you said about eBooks was surprisingly moving.

[@RealCadde]

The G3's charging handle is well known for taking a good portion of your skin off your hand if you slip while managing to get some part of your hand into the groove. And the G3 is also quite painful and damaging to thumbs you stick into the magazine well to check the chamber for rounds when you unload the weapon. Technically, you are supposed to stick your thumb through the well (so no mag is there) AND then your finger through the ejector port to really feel for a round in the chamber. I had a really hard time warranting sticking a finger in through that port in the field...

[@CheshireTomcat68]

Are you going to print a cheaper soft-cover version of your book?

[@JDTN1985]

In regards to lefty friendly pistols, if the mag release is not reversible make sure to shoot and handle the gun while wearing whatever gloves you might use throughout the year. Like Ian I got use to having the mag release on the left side of the gun but had to switch it the right side on my m&p since the extra padding from gloves would cause me to put just enough pressure on it to release the mag while shooting. Wouldn't happen every time, but still often enough that I had to change it.

[@chrisspencer6502]

Wow thanks for dropping it early.

[@skywalker2133]

Yeah, Sig 550 is even here in switzerland expensiv. Exept if you keep your servicerifel.

[@aerofd]

As always interesting and informative. Thanks.

[@mfree80286]

So... we need to ship a large amount of CZ-75 pistols to the Finnish arms industry. (ref: 11:03)

[@petrcivela9413]

CZ-75 can't get any better 😄

[@Balvanix]

@@petrcivela9413 It can, it is called cz 75- shadow :-D

[@armchairgman6568]

Howdy from the Quad Cities! Keep up the good work.

[@cyruspalmer98]

Easier way to measure center to center is outside to inside

[@vaclavholek4497]

46:38 - Ian, why not a ZH-29? It's not the best semi-auto, but it was available in 1936, it's good enough, and it shoots standard 7.92x57mm.

[@KingusDingus]

Can someone remind me what that gun in the thumbnail is? I cannot remember it to save my life... Help would be appreciated.

[@MongooseTacticool]

BRNO

[@MongooseTacticool]

BRNO 7.5. MAC has a good video about it.

[@jeeBisOkay]

The FK BRNO FP

[@BogeyTheBear]

The FK BRNO Field Gun is a small caliber, high velocity Czech handgun that has a ballast weight in the front to attenuate recoil, so it covers at least three subjects brought up in this Q&A.

[@camgumby1]

Glock 17

[@noahculver8936]

I always enjoy your videos.

[@DSlyde]

Doesn't the Johnson LMG do the full open, semi closed thing?

[@norwegianwiking]

we need a video on the BESA or the Vz. 37

[@samobispo1527]

Great video! But the advertisement with the single woman declining an invitation to go dancing in order to stay home, drink wine out of a dispenser box, eat, and watch TV, is hilarious. The only thing missing was several pet cats and a phone call from her mother asking when she was going to give mom some grandkids.

[@MrJ3]

Completely reasonable to keep the book as a physical book. Big fan of that decision.

[@cdawson198600]

Mr. J yes, I agree nothing beats a physical book or any other media.... it’s scary when books are becoming nostalgic and everything is going digital, one wrong move and poof an entire library gone.

[@marzcapone9939]

A Forgotten Weapon I wish was reproduced is the H&K P7, even a modernization would be great.

[@TheSuburban15]

A P7-M13 with magazines that don't cost a couple hundred dollars (in "good" used condition), would be great.

[@jeffthebaptist3602]

Measuring group size: The issue is that there are multiple ways to do it. The US Army has a Test Operations Procedure (TOP) for Small Arms that includes accuracy and dispersion. There may also be an International TOP. Honestly, I think the methodology most of the gun mags use where they shoot 3 5-10 round groups at a relevant range comes from an old NRA guidance document. And that methodology is used because it is easy, not because it is good. The real issue is that using group size as a statistical measure is awful. It's a measurement of the extreme spread of the distribution which means it essentially just uses the two worst shots. If you want something better you could use mean radius. Even better would be to use the standard deviation of the round since the random weapon dispersion from most guns is normally distributed.

[@FIREBRAND38]

Excellent comment!

[@ilmt]

I wonder why you wouldn't at least mention again the ZH29 on the question which gun to pick when going into Spanish civil war. Especially, since you did talk about it earlier as being one of the first good ones, and it was available in 1936. (Yeah it did stick to my mind more since I'm Czech ;) )

[@Hibernicus1968]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the Burgess folding pump shotgun as desirable for reproduction. I'd certainly love to get one, and there aren't a lot of originals out there.

[@michaelmacdonald334]

He gave me heart palpitations when he said that they were also chambered in 45/70. Mmmmmmm 45/70.....

[@huntercompton9650]

Didn't the Johnson LMG shoot closed bolt semi and open bolt full auto?

[@ringowunderlich2241]

Question 49:50 : The Schwarzlose Model 1898 perhaps?

[@weaponizedemoticon1131]

Ian, would you please explain your cup some time? It looks interesting.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

calamityware.com/products/calamityware-mug-1-things-could-be-worse

[@ScoobieDoobieDoob]

Why pick the Winchester Model 1907 over the Remington Model 8? The Model 8 was chambered in .25 Remington (6.54x52mm) which is similar to .223 in ballistics and almost an intermediate round, but it was also chambered in much larger rounds if that's what you wanted. They also made high capacity magazines for it you could buy out of police catalogues, and a place in Mt. Clemens, Michigan could customize it to make the magazines removable. Collectors say that their work was of extremely high quality. So, you could essentially have a semi-auto rifle with a 15 round magazine, that had comparable ballistics to a modern .223. I honestly would probably pick that over anything until the Garand or STG-44, and depending on how it'd do in the field; I'd maybe pick it over a Garand and other full powered rifles.

[@timwilliamanderson]

23:51 if you want a better way to measure without subtracting the diameter, just measure from the outside of one hole to the inside of the other

[@2009Berghof]

The only Brit BESA that I've seen in the USA is the one in the J.M. Davis Museum in Oklahoma. I tried to find a transferable one to buy for my British MKIV armored car-no luck. I did buy a parts kit and assembled a dummy for display only. It is one of the very least likely souvenir machine guns that any returning GI would bring back. It is one big heavy hunk of steel. The barrel alone is quite hefty and this is probably why they worked so well. Are you old enough to remember when all the BMG fans were converting to 8mm Mauser. At Knob Creek Paragon was selling cases of 8mm to the Browning fans. I recognized the wood cases. The ammo was WWII British BESA ammo in cardboard boxes. I am uncertain but I think the BESA will fit in that heavy Czech ZB53 tripod and tank mounting as used in the Czech 38 tank.

[@willwallacetree]

That mug needs a little saucer and a waffer thin biscuit with it, but otherwise entirely excellent as usual!

[@TheSuburban15]

". . . more powerful powders. . . " Power is determined mostly by burn rate, and somewhat by powder formulation. There is a pretty wide variety of burn rates and formulations available already. The trick to it, is not having a peak pressure that exceeds the maximum pressure that the shell case, chamber, and locking system can safely contain. It might be kinda interesting to see what a Smith & Wesson X-Frame could do with a high velocity small-bore cartridge.

[@henry06x]

I’ve often wondered what would be wrong with running your mag release on the “lefty” side as a righty. After purchasing a pistol that had the release on both sides I found myself using my index finger to release my mag far more often then my thumb. I swapped my M&P around and really liked releasing with my index finger more. Didn’t have to twist the pistol in my hand or anything. Ended up going back to std simply because I didn’t want to be use to it and then have to think about releasing the mag when i shot someone else’s pistol or my little single stack carry pistol that’s not reversible. In my mind it still would make more sense that way. That’s one thing everyone loves about the AR-15 platform and want every rifle to have.

[@scottm9605]

Ahh calamity ware. Good stuff.

[@pdittrich]

re: auto-ejection of the magazine, you don't need that, you won't loose any time from it. I was actually asked by a guy on my local range whether my AR15 DID in fact automatically drop the mag. It does not, he just didn't see my finger move to the mag catch.

[@ditto1958]

Mike’s Militaria is a good source for military uniforms. He also has a good YT channel called Mike B.

[@KaoVamp]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the ZH 29 as a gun to take into the Spanish Civil War. It would have been available and it fires what would have been a commonly available cartridge at the time. Being magazine fed it also feels like one of the most modern guns available in that period. Are there issues with it I forgot about? I admit it's been a while since I've seen your videos on it.

[@Uncommoner]

Like most statistical measures, i imagine the method of measuring group size depends on the story you're trying to tell. An infantryman or army concerned with hitting centre mass is happy with smallest circle, as long as the target is in that circle one round from a group will likely hit. A sniper whose life may depend on one shot, one kill accuracy will want as precise a statistical measure as possible, and thus use mean from centre and std deviation.

[@FIREBRAND38]

You would think that but most folks can't understand any of it.

[@tafino]

Ian, I just saw your video. Nice, but WHY ARENT YOU USING A COASTER??? -Love, Mom (Gun Mary?)

[@sammybarnes9511]

I totally agree on the sturmgewehr 44.

[@thezaret639]

i would love to try and shoot a G11

[@thescatologistcopromancer3936]

Love the Calamityware

[@mattsgrungy]

Re: automatic mag ejection - I think one of the other things that Ian didn't cover that is another factor is that adding any feature like that probably adds weight to the weapon. As Ian noted there is no real military advantage and weight is a serious consideration for most militaries, especially for a sidearm that is (in most cases) not even the soldier's main weapon. It's just a side consideration on top of what Ian said but I just thought it was worth adding to the conversation.

[@mattsgrungy]

@@BatCaveOz Yeah you're probably right TBH

[@525halo]

with how firearms are designed today, is it possible to see the return of open bolt semi auto rifles/pistols/parts kits ect?

[@ForgottenWeapons]

No. ATF considers open bolt guns to be easily converted into machine guns by default.

[@pdittrich]

I think Sport Systeme Dittrich is still producing Sturmgewehrs. And FG42s. And MP38s (you have a video on that one). And Volkssturm rifles because lol why not. Their website unfortunately states new pricing "will" be introduced in January 2019 and the catalog will be updated "shortly". Maybe. Some time. Best I recall, the prices for any of those were in the 3-5k range. Understandable considering they must be practically hand-building the rifles, but still thats a boatload of money.

[@theana86ar]

What happedened to the burgess folding shotgun? I recall you wishing it to be in modern production, and to be honest would get one meself...

[@oloflarsson407]

I think Ian might have forgotten the Suomi KP/-31 as the ideal personal firearm for the Spanish civil war. ISTR Ian and Karl lauding the Suomi and the Beretta M38 as the best SMG´s of the war at InRange.

[@williestyle35]

Good point

[@londonjolly9174]

That's funny, most of the things I like about the ACR are in the lower (stock design, ambi controls, single piece fcg, magpul styling). I think that rifle, in it's Masada guise for 1500 msrp, would've been quite succesful. Oh well, I'm still hoping someone makes FMG-9s and PDRs.

[@beargillium2369]

So take the 1.4m approximately guns they already have and do a quick $1500 "upgrade" and it's only gonna cost us 2.1billion dollars 😂

[@0000Sierra117]

A reproduction STG in .300 blackout would be pretty fun and have easily loadable or purchasable ammo while keeping the "vibe" of 8mm kurz in my humble opinion

[@gunner678]

Very interesting video. Thanks!

[@redram5150]

Come to learn, stay for the luscious locks

[@stephenbond1990]

Which came first, the detachable box magazine (1879) or the en bloc clip (1885) or the charger (Beaumont vitali?)?

[@williestyle35]

You have your answer in the question: 1879 by James Paris Lee ( of Lee Enfield type rifles ). Though the Enfield was never ment to be issued with multiple box magazines, they were independently detachable when first designed by Lee. And those were the first generally used military metallic type loaders or magazines.

[@stephenbond1990]

The dates are for the earliest i could find for a rifle that used them not necessarily when they were invented, mannlicher and lee thought of the box magazine around the same time but austro-Hungary weren't interested leading to the development of en bloc clips as a compromise and lee only got a small contact from the us navy. And i have no idea about beamont type chargers.

[@williestyle35]

I think it might have also been mentioned by Ian, but I can't say where ( other than the video relating to Lee Enfield rifle ).

[@guypierson5754]

Necro comment cause never watched this at the time; when he got to the Spanish war gun question I was chanting Maquina Maquina then he finally said “a sub machine gun” and I was like yeeeeeeah! Cause at the time that would protect you but also give you social standing with the left. Being someone with a machine gun meant you were somebody important enough to have it so you must be worth following.

[@TheBurg229]

Why the Winchester 07 over the Remington Model 8? Or a Colt Monitor even?

[@andyrihn1]

If you look back at his shooting vids for those I think you’d see he finds the other two very unpleasant to shoot. The Winchester, while heavy for what is, isn’t a bad shooter.

[@kristianrehorovsky7717]

I came here because the Czech republic was in the title

[@marshaul]

Well, I watch all of Ian's videos, but he doesn't talk about Czech guns nearly enough. BTW, don't you think "Czechia" flows off the tongue better?

[@jonaszejfart6126]

@@marshaul Hi, Czechia is a name which most Czech people do not really like. Czechoslovakia was fine, now - Czech Republic is a name we are used to. I agree Czechia flows off the tongue better, but we really do not like it that much. :)

[@marshaul]

@@jonaszejfart6126 I don't think you should speak for your entire country. Plenty of Czechs like it fine. Anyway, if I may be so blunt, your opinion is irrelevant. You don't own the English name for your country any more than I own the various words for "American" which may or may not reflect my personal preferences or the full name of my government or my citizenship. To put it another way, English speakers gets to decide what words we use, the same way we use "Germany" to describe Deutschland or "Finland" to describe Suomi. You don't see me lecturing you on what Czech words to use when discussing Americans, do you? No, because I don't presume to own any parts of the Czech language, even if some parts of that language relate to me. I asked because it's obviously a better name, and thanks to your own government recommending it it's starting to appear on English maps and in diplomatic contexts. You might as well learn to like the name, because it's stuck now. :)

[@jaroslavbenes3963]

#me too

[@jaroslavbenes3963]

@@marshaul Czechia is terrible newage name from 2016. Everybody in Czech republic hates it! Well, evrybody except Moravians and Silesians. It is because of them, they didn t want live in country called Bohemia (wich flows off the tongue the best) because Bohemia reffers only to part of the republic were Czech people lives. Anyway. For country with such a long history - since Borivoj I. cca 800 A.C. the first ruler of Bohemia - is name like Czechia shame. But only one which can english speaking dudes pronounce :) . Czechia stands for "Česko" and that means Bohemia. So what is it all about? Noboady knows.

[@edi9892]

Please make a video on felt weapon recoil. I still struggle to understand how the operation system impacts it. E.g.: G3 has more recoil than the FAL due to more mass moving, but MG42, Barret and things like AK101 and Vector rely on mass moving to reduce felt recoil.

[@Throwback_]

Total novice btw, but I believe guns like the ak101 rely on a separate counter weight that, while the bolt mechanism is moving, the counterweight does an equal and opposite movement to counter act the jolt of the bolt backwards. If I had to guess, in guns that don’t have this counterweight system (most) you only feel the bolt slam backwards, giving a rise to the barrel in addition to the explosive component

[@edi9892]

@@Throwback_ I'm no expert, but I think that you're right. Guns create recoil from accelerating the projectile, blast, and mechanical movements within the gun. From what I understand, a locked bolt system should have the lowest recoil. The more mass is moved, the worse it gets, though it can soften the felt recoil as it extends the recoil so that it doesn't feel as sharp. I also understand that the FK and the Vector use additional recoil to get the barrel down, similar to how gas can be used in muzzle breaks and gas ports to reduce felt recoil. This seems to apply for many mass delayed systems, but I don't get why it applies for the Barret and not the G3. Now, the thing I really don't understand is how it works on a physical level with AK101: Yes, it balances out the recoil of the bolt slamming back, but you accelerate a mass forward in addition to the bullet, thus the recoil should get bigger. Regardless.

[@uallas5va]

I'm enjoying this video. Is the video flipped?

[@tafino]

You just replaced my TED Talk for my ride to work today. Much more relevant info too :D

[@claytonmachine12]

Ian, the U.S. Army is starting to adopt 6.8 in limited use (SF and I think some Ranger units) with plans to do a full adoption.

[@claytonmachine12]

I should specify, while the Army has already announced adoption of the round, they have yet to actually develop the rifle.....................Yeah. So they're still working out the contracts for that part. Remember, if it makes sense, its not the Army.

[@stephenrichards2715]

Your next forgotten weapon could be the GWACS lower they are over 3 months behind on there gen3 release and have been radio silent for months.

[@WW2Fanatic1000]

16:10 I'm going to have to disagree with that. I think single loading will always be slower, even though it's the same process with a tube magazine reload. I think that would be a good test for In RangeTV.

[@jonbeck5945]

Ian, when you get ahold of one, will you do a video on the Beretta PM12S and the Walther MPL? I don’t think I’ve seen videos on either of these from you and would love to hear your take on the history and what you think of actually shooting them.

[@williestyle35]

He has done the MP 12 and the MPL in videos already.

[@nimbly1693]

As I said about the BRN-10 and all Brownell's other classic rifle stuff. They aren't a rifle company succeeding building classic rifles. They are a firearm supply company who is also building classic rifles and parts. That is why they are successful, they already were.

[@stevailo]

I think that only a revolution like the smokeless powder one can really change handguns (and guns in general) and their cartridges nowadays