Negev LMG: The Israeli Take on the SAW

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When the Israeli Defense Forces tested the FN Minimi, they found it to be lacking in a few areas, and decided that they could develop a better SAW domestically. Developed in the 1980s, the result was the Negev. Like the Minimi, the Negev is a 5.56mm light machine gun that can feed from either belts or box magazines (Galil mags or AR mags with an adapter), has quick-changes barrels, and fires form an open bolt. The Negev has several features the Minimi does not, though, including a semiauto fire control position, optics mounting on the receiver (instead of the top cover), a standard folding stock, and some mechanical improvements internally.
So, let's dig into this Negev and see how it ticks!
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@robinslick8988
@robinslick8988 5 жыл бұрын
gets more accurate the longer you hold the trigger
@unholyrevenger72
@unholyrevenger72 5 жыл бұрын
So made by Hyperion
@Emanoil25
@Emanoil25 5 жыл бұрын
@CIA BETA Wing counter strike global offensive
@moonrazk
@moonrazk 5 жыл бұрын
@CIA BETA Wing And Hyperion is from Borderlands, just in case you want to know.
@satania2cute666
@satania2cute666 5 жыл бұрын
@@moonrazk if it didn't kill in one shot you weren't using a Jacob's
@iota-09
@iota-09 5 жыл бұрын
Also gets more damage each time you reloa- no wait, that negev was a bit different... More... Pink?
@smith040799
@smith040799 5 жыл бұрын
Laser accurate, cheap and able to easily stop a B rush.
@anduro7448
@anduro7448 4 жыл бұрын
@@unnamed_boi Exelent weapon once you overtake the site tho
@myg0t_jsm
@myg0t_jsm 4 жыл бұрын
Here at Valve, we believe in fair competitive play. Let's buff the Negev even more!
@JesusMeza3
@JesusMeza3 4 жыл бұрын
*Sad M249 noises*
@sannidhyabalkote9536
@sannidhyabalkote9536 4 жыл бұрын
@@JesusMeza3 the worst economic disaster since 2008
@luckyduckydrivingschool3615
@luckyduckydrivingschool3615 3 жыл бұрын
gALIL GO BRRR
@LoneRanger869
@LoneRanger869 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, so nice to finally see the Negev on here. I was a 'negevist' (negev operator) in the IDF and I just wanted to point out a few things you didn't cover in this overview. 1. the gas system can be easily disassembled (and really should be each time the gun gets cleaned). It consists of three pieces: the selector (baseplate with struts and tubular extension for easy grip), the retaining pin and plate which are located on the opposite site, and a small but very stiff spring which provides tension so it stays in place. It all fits in the tubular recess under the sight. At 1:50-2:00 you can see the exposed gas chamber on the commando barrel, where the piston sits inside it, and just in front of it, under the sight, is a circle with a small slot in it. When clean, that circle can be pushed in and rotated 90 degrees while you hold the gas selector in place. At 3:35 you can see an odd shaped pin in the baseplate of the selector and two black sections on the sides. The pin is actually an asymmetric 'T' attached to the circle with slot from the other side, and which goes through the selector, rotates and hooks into place. The asymmetric design means it can only be installed one way. The slot on the other side is so you can use a tool to increase torque when you've been shooting a lot and the carbon build-up fouls the mechanism. 2. The bolt has an internal ratcheting system of three catches (three on the old ones which I used, but I believe there are a lot more on newer ones, like what you have) which will be engaged if you don't pull the bolt back far enough to engage the sear. As you found at the 7:51-7:56 mark, the bolt seemed like it was back, but you couldn't drop it with a pull of the trigger. You had to pull it back farther, and there was a click as it engaged with the sear, and then you could drop it. I'm sure you became more aware of this once you got out to the range and started putting rounds through it. The system is, as you must have easily guessed, a safety to ensure that you don't accidentally end up firing the weapon if you didn't charge it properly. 3. As you can see from the trigger assembly, the sear gives no resistance to the bolt carrier sliding back over it to reset. For this reason, during disassembly, there is no need to pull the trigger to release the bolt; I'll just slide right out. 4. The STANAG mag well does more than just allow you to feed with magazines. It is also the mechanism which holds and retains the box which the belt feeds from. IDF uses a bag/box called a 'toph', which carries 150 rounds (a combat load out is 4 'toph-eem', plus extra belts). The belt comes out through the upper left hand side (9:30/10:00 if you're looking at a clock) and there is a metal extension, like the top of a GI mag, which clicks into the mag well and holds it in place. Very secure, but also easy to switch and reuses a necessary part of the design; very slick. 5. The Negev is always issued with two barrels per gun. It's intended to be changed every 150 rounds (or one 'toph') during consistent fire, to keep from overheating the barrel. 6. It has night sights! The rear iron sight has a distance dial meter which, as you rotate, will positively click into different ranges with detents. It moves the sight by way of an off-set bar which rotates upward as your turn the dial. Once you've reached the top range, twist a little further and the sight will be able to lift off the bar and swing all the way forward. Underneath the peep sight is a wide 'U' notch sight with two tritium night-sight dots. The front sight post adjusts for elevation like any AR pattern rifle (the base of the front sight can be adjusted for windage), but the rotating part is made up of two elements: the elevation dial and a top section. The detent for adjusting needs to be pushed down far enough to spin both parts in order to adjust the sight, otherwise you only spin the top part. The top part spins independently because it too has a tritium dot on one side of it, which lines up with the detent pin. Obviously, this is so you can adjust the sight back in line with the shooter once sighting in has been achieved, and the tritium isn't on all sides so you don't reveal yourself to an enemy. 7. The bipod folds forward as well as backwards. While this may seem awkward, it does help to get the bipod legs out of the way of the operator if the operator is just carrying the gun by the sling and there is a 'toph' inserted. As you'll notice at 6:00-6:07, the bipod lies around the mag well for storage. To be folded, the legs need to be brought together and then rotated up into place. This is possible if you have a magazine inserted, but impossible to do if you have a 'toph' inserted (though if you have the legs folded already, then you _can_ insert a 'toph' but then you can't take the bipod down). Thus, the ability to fold the legs forward is quite handy and useful. 8. The barrel removal button is only the one side, on the right. That side of the pin face has knurling, and its position is such that it is possible to change the barrel with only one hand. 9. Just behind the gas selector, on the left-hand side of the gun is a 'U' piece of metal crudely welded to the frame. That is the front sling attachment point, and the extra welding material is to ensure against breakage. When loaded with a full 'toph', the negev is 10kg. With any optics or the barrel mounted laser sight (for the older versions), that weight goes up, and you don't want the sling attachment to break. At the rear of the gun, on the top left corner of the stock plate, is another 'U' loop strongly welded into place, and that's the rear sling attachment. 10. At 4:14, just above the trigger and to the left of the 'Automatic' fire selector letter, is a large hole. There is a similar hole behind the bipod mounting point (2:19). As you might have guessed, these are for attaching the gun into a vehicle mount. Sorry, this got a little longer than I had originally intended, but I felt it was important to add a bit more to the presentation, just to fully showcase how awesome this LMG is. I miss my negev every day. Love the videos.
@Some_Jihadi_Warrior-me1rz
@Some_Jihadi_Warrior-me1rz 5 жыл бұрын
מתי שירתת בצבא?
@michaelfodor6280
@michaelfodor6280 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your insight. It's really cool to hear from the people who are really familiar with the gun.
@mfree80286
@mfree80286 5 жыл бұрын
Are the operators of this weapons sources of great negevitity in the field?
@ThZuao
@ThZuao 5 жыл бұрын
So, where's the bottle opener?
@mfree80286
@mfree80286 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThZuao Ask your battle buddy :)
@invictusprima4437
@invictusprima4437 5 жыл бұрын
So do you want a Galil or or a saw? IDF: Yes
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 5 жыл бұрын
Invictus Prima at the price of these things you can afford to drop two per squad and six-eight per platoon. Your only limit is weight. This gun explains why IDF are scary to all the nasty buggers surrounding them. I sure wouldn’t feel outgunned by anything short of light artillery because mortars could easily be surrounded and outgunned with two-up per squad.
@JonManProductions
@JonManProductions 5 жыл бұрын
@@invictusprima4437 If only their field rations were better, Steve1989 did a video on one and... it was kind of disappointing.
@Born_Yashish
@Born_Yashish 5 жыл бұрын
​@@JonManProductions Thing is, in practice, what Steve reviewed wasn't the "real" field ration; in actual combat, soldiers are supplied with fresh food- anything from bread and fruits to actual sushi and steaks. This can be done because of IDF's strategic reliance on Israeli civilian infrastructure, which in turn is possible due to the country's small size and a defensive doctrine that never takes you too far away from this lines. The battle rations are designed for a single day use until a chain can be established, though they see most of their use as easy/cheap solution for exercises and guard posts- somewhat ironically making food in actual combat better than the one during "peacetime". What Steve had in his hands was a very rare box, that whoever sold it to him just threw in the content of other boxes to make it seem fuller.
@alexsis1778
@alexsis1778 5 жыл бұрын
@JonManProductions Not sure if you checked out the comments under the video but there was some comments from some people who were in the 6-day war where they talk about getting pizza and the like delivered every day. Because of Israel's unique stance and small size they're never actually going far from civilian takeout. Their field rations are almost more akin to an emergency food supply than they are an actual daily meal. Taken in that context you should be comparing it more to some of his videos for emergency pilot kits or the early predecessors of modern rations where they really were intended only to be eaten in extreme cutoff situations.
@christsrevenge8030
@christsrevenge8030 5 жыл бұрын
Alexsis Engle. Hello! It wasn't a 9 day war it was a six day war when they were given jets, tanks, weaponry and technology to go and destroy all the other countries and people around them. They even destroyed the crap out of the USS liberty and its crew. Bad ass! After that they started making guns with bottle openers for their attack force because all of their neighbours were dead already.
@enricopaolocoronado2511
@enricopaolocoronado2511 5 жыл бұрын
Belgian Minimi: Who are you? Israeli Negev: I'm you but better.
@TylerLL2112
@TylerLL2112 5 жыл бұрын
Queue the popular “OOOOOOHHHHHHH” gif with the group of black dudes.
@junlee3515
@junlee3515 5 жыл бұрын
That also applies for STG and AK
@iGabenewell
@iGabenewell 5 жыл бұрын
"Im you but jewish"
@Some_Jihadi_Warrior-me1rz
@Some_Jihadi_Warrior-me1rz 5 жыл бұрын
@@iGabenewell Circumcised*
@ArcturusOTE
@ArcturusOTE 5 жыл бұрын
@@albratish Pulemyot Kalashnikova?
@johnmorgan1629
@johnmorgan1629 5 жыл бұрын
Can't think of anything Negevtive to say about this gun.
@juanordonezgalban2278
@juanordonezgalban2278 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't SAW it comming
@Isaac-ho8gh
@Isaac-ho8gh 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and unlike this gun, the magazine problem on the M249 isn't so minimem..
@johnmorgan1629
@johnmorgan1629 5 жыл бұрын
@@juanordonezgalban2278 I don't Galilieve it.
@ottogofast3882
@ottogofast3882 5 жыл бұрын
🔥
@ChankaTheOne
@ChankaTheOne 5 жыл бұрын
What are those stupid jokes ? Come on be creAKtives
@providence3228
@providence3228 5 жыл бұрын
My little Specialist can't be this cute.
@PresidentFunnyValentine
@PresidentFunnyValentine 5 жыл бұрын
Oh god dangit...
@darkspire91
@darkspire91 5 жыл бұрын
No. No, we went there with the G41, we're not going there again.
@RailgunCyclops
@RailgunCyclops 5 жыл бұрын
Ayy a GFL comment :)
@haloman4220
@haloman4220 5 жыл бұрын
you guys and everyone that liked it.... I see you are all men and women of culture as well
@baronvontittie-sprinkles2882
@baronvontittie-sprinkles2882 5 жыл бұрын
i see you're a shikikan of culture as well
@PlusP_
@PlusP_ 5 жыл бұрын
You can get one of these babys second round force buy for $1700
@jacobjohnson4829
@jacobjohnson4829 5 жыл бұрын
Semi variant or NFA?
@Ingsoc75
@Ingsoc75 5 жыл бұрын
@@jacobjohnson4829 I'm guessing semi. NFA dealers maybe able to get it a post 1986 sample.
@jacobjohnson4829
@jacobjohnson4829 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ingsoc75 ohhhh good point. I'd love a semi Negev. Just would almost always use Galil mags in it
@MrGreghome
@MrGreghome 5 жыл бұрын
@@jacobjohnson4829 cs:go
@jamessutton3461
@jamessutton3461 5 жыл бұрын
Lol, I'm in Canada, for now the Tavors will have to suffice.
@Activated_Complex
@Activated_Complex 5 жыл бұрын
Semi-auto is also good for when one belt has to last you eight days and nights.
@iddomargalit-friedman3897
@iddomargalit-friedman3897 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated
@ferrisbueller9991
@ferrisbueller9991 3 жыл бұрын
@@iddomargalit-friedman3897 Truly. It would be a shame to pass over.
@HeIsAnAli
@HeIsAnAli Жыл бұрын
_[Happy Specialist Noises]_
@derekd1510
@derekd1510 10 ай бұрын
A little Jewish humor? How anyone can hate you guys is beyond me.
@largol33t12
@largol33t12 5 ай бұрын
@@derekd1510 I never understood people who hate Jews "just because they're Jews." It truly is the worst form of racism. I don't listen to blacks when they cry about racism because when asked about Jews, they suddenly spew hate speech so ugly that it would make Hitler beam with joy.
@norad_clips
@norad_clips 5 жыл бұрын
Making video game references about Negev CS Players 🤝 GFL Players
@andyplum4422
@andyplum4422 5 жыл бұрын
Norad2 This man! ^^^^
@Taphenko
@Taphenko 5 жыл бұрын
what is gfl
@tronerman
@tronerman 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you SKK
@sagitta98
@sagitta98 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, fellow commanders...
@cyber4053
@cyber4053 5 жыл бұрын
When you play both
@Kotl1ke
@Kotl1ke 3 жыл бұрын
The R actually stands for "Reverse", which is a rather unpopular firing mode according to most Negev Operators.
@kapoink835
@kapoink835 2 жыл бұрын
@@SashaLumi shoots backwards for redily available retreatfire
@unfa00
@unfa00 Жыл бұрын
"R" stands for "Rectal" in this instance.
@lotzamilk2792
@lotzamilk2792 5 жыл бұрын
8:15 I was NOT expecting that sound...
@Diegopedia303
@Diegopedia303 5 жыл бұрын
That was acoustically pleasant.
@tiihtu2507
@tiihtu2507 5 жыл бұрын
It's never aliens.
@4570Govt
@4570Govt 5 жыл бұрын
End of barrel sliding on table
@M-1996A1
@M-1996A1 5 жыл бұрын
Clearly a space station door opening
@SenorKuso
@SenorKuso 5 жыл бұрын
WOOOOAAAAOOHHHHH
@morantactical1105
@morantactical1105 5 жыл бұрын
In the US Army, SAW gunners are taught to “double spring” mags for their 249. Double spring is exactly what it sounds like. They disassemble an M16 Mag, take out the spring, and add that spring to a second mag. You can only load 20-25 rounds in a double spring mag. But they work much more reliably in a SAW.
@Mac-pi4cy
@Mac-pi4cy 5 жыл бұрын
We used to try and do something similiar with the SLR / FAL and 30 round mags for the LMG (7.62 Bren) Looked cool and sometimes worked well until the RSM CSM CSgt or Sgt saw it and kicked your arse all over the area!!! Fun times!
@albinocaveslug
@albinocaveslug 4 жыл бұрын
The 249 has a gas adjustment knob on the front that most soldiers are told is to adjust fire rate, which it does. Most people are told to never touch it and forget it exists, but the armorers know...
@gunmonkey1185
@gunmonkey1185 4 жыл бұрын
I wished I had a negev when I went to Iraq. Had a saw and never liked it. However, I managed to hit the 1000m target with it; I was one of two saw gunners that hit 1000m with the saw. I had couple of tricks that I used to hit 1000m, but couldn't hit 300 with the saw.
@wraithwyvern528
@wraithwyvern528 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda defeats the point of having a box magazine adapter when you can't actually share mags with the rest of the squad.
@albinocaveslug
@albinocaveslug 4 жыл бұрын
@@wraithwyvern528 sure does, especially when it would just take a small adjustment to the gas knob everyone is told to never touch.
@AmatsukaEd
@AmatsukaEd 5 жыл бұрын
The specialist Negev, she is all you need shikikan
@raihanwidodo1042
@raihanwidodo1042 5 жыл бұрын
the longer i finger her, the more accurate she become
@Lemonificent
@Lemonificent 5 жыл бұрын
You're confusing her with 416
@AmatsukaEd
@AmatsukaEd 5 жыл бұрын
I know but she wants the shikikan's f0reskin a yandere one
@jeraldlim384
@jeraldlim384 5 жыл бұрын
M416 scary stare: I'm the only one you need shikikan.
@Some_Jihadi_Warrior-me1rz
@Some_Jihadi_Warrior-me1rz 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeraldlim384 Chad Negev vs Virgin 416.
@beanMosheen
@beanMosheen 5 жыл бұрын
The 249 also has the nasty habit of shaving brass off of each round when magazine fed. It deposits those shavings into the breech and it doesn't take long until it completely jams a cartridge in the chamber.
@Vidar_Odinson
@Vidar_Odinson 5 жыл бұрын
That's a really slick barrel change.
@deathlis
@deathlis 5 жыл бұрын
Yea...I want that so much! On every gun I own! Seriously though, they really need to design an AR-15 upper receiver that can do that. Maybe a release pin for the shroud as well as on a two-piece gas block. How sweet would it be to go 300 Blackout, then to 5.56, then throwing in a 22LR conversion kit and shooting all of it on the same gun while out at the range in mere moments!
@rajpawanrentala2415
@rajpawanrentala2415 3 жыл бұрын
How to pripar mishin gun hat hom
@christhefirst
@christhefirst 3 жыл бұрын
@@deathlis oh boy wait until you find out about the AUG
@avihairapoport9521
@avihairapoport9521 5 жыл бұрын
As another IDF soldier... 1 - It has night sights just like the Galil! 2- The bipod can also fold forward in case you want to lean the gun on a rock/window but want to have a lower silhouette and have better stability than just leaning on the barrel. 3- The bipod is also being used as a forward grip ( the "fat" parts) 4 - The 150 round drum is made from a soft material to avoid the noise a metal box drum is making while shaking it with rounds inside. 5- You can use one hand to change the barrel if you first take the carry handle and then press the button. 6- The top cover is using a spring to make sure that you close it properly. We All know how the M240/FN-Mag can jam if you don't close it properly, which usually means slam it hard. Amazing channel and great work Ian!
@dr.vanilla9017
@dr.vanilla9017 5 жыл бұрын
Gun Jesus brings us a lmg from the holy Land.
@Some_Jihadi_Warrior-me1rz
@Some_Jihadi_Warrior-me1rz 5 жыл бұрын
@@PR_96 The Romans did actually. The prefect of Judea Pontius Pilate killed him, not jews.
@rucker69
@rucker69 5 жыл бұрын
@@PR_96 Stupid joke. You must be dense.
@micahduvall9353
@micahduvall9353 5 жыл бұрын
@@PR_96 Your humor is on point
@dongblak7048
@dongblak7048 5 жыл бұрын
During the Crusade of 556A.D.
@RobertDecker417
@RobertDecker417 5 жыл бұрын
@@Some_Jihadi_Warrior-me1rz Pilate wanted nothing to do with his death, at least I believe.
@bobthompson4319
@bobthompson4319 5 жыл бұрын
The bipod also works as a wire cutter. The flashider launches rifle grenades.
@Jay_7781
@Jay_7781 5 жыл бұрын
bob thompson wait is that true? IWI is amazing
@bobthompson4319
@bobthompson4319 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jay_7781 yes. Look it up if you don't believe me. The rifle grenades are made for the gun obviously theyre not the 40mm m203 grenades
@bobthompson4319
@bobthompson4319 5 жыл бұрын
The galil has a bipod wire cutter a bottle opener and launches rifle grenades also
@iota-09
@iota-09 5 жыл бұрын
@@bobthompson4319 talk about multitasking...
@marshaul
@marshaul 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jay_7781 Amazing? Both of those features are extensively derivative. There is nothing new under the sun, especially when it comes to guns.
@jonathangreer7587
@jonathangreer7587 5 жыл бұрын
Damn IWI was smart for putting that gas regulating system in it.
@boomerisadog3899
@boomerisadog3899 5 жыл бұрын
The Israeli's know how to build weapons, necessity being the mother of invention.
@sirbader1
@sirbader1 5 жыл бұрын
@@boomerisadog3899 Yeah, you need a lot of arms and cash for international terrorism. 😎
@sirbader1
@sirbader1 5 жыл бұрын
@Black Shinobi You must not know who started all that.
@richardgates5786
@richardgates5786 5 жыл бұрын
Black Shinobi en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing Nah fam, Zionism has been a terrorist movement for a long time.
@Mac-pi4cy
@Mac-pi4cy 5 жыл бұрын
@Black Shinobi Or perhaps when you think about it the Nazis
@ritterbruder212
@ritterbruder212 5 жыл бұрын
On paper and from what I read, this is probably one of the most under appreciated LMG’s out there!
@fortyfive4632
@fortyfive4632 5 жыл бұрын
Just something special about Israeli weapons. They always “make sense.”
@daniellau5859
@daniellau5859 4 жыл бұрын
In a country that always seems like theyre at war with someone, id hope they have things that just make sense lol
@gingytheman1261
@gingytheman1261 3 жыл бұрын
_Bayonet on the uzi_
@Goofyahh1337
@Goofyahh1337 3 жыл бұрын
@@gingytheman1261 you may need it though
@Goofyahh1337
@Goofyahh1337 3 жыл бұрын
@Ted Hubert Pagnanawon Crusio k
@kurvitaschthedictator
@kurvitaschthedictator 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goofyahh1337 Bayonet used as bottle (seltzer) opener
@WitphC79
@WitphC79 5 жыл бұрын
12:22 so lewd, what were you thinking doing this to our specialist
@jackiebrown5680
@jackiebrown5680 5 жыл бұрын
Ah I see a fellow man of riafu culture
@zatoby6705
@zatoby6705 5 жыл бұрын
D E M O N I T I Z E D
@jack_copperz
@jack_copperz 4 жыл бұрын
xD
@kongoubongo1114
@kongoubongo1114 5 жыл бұрын
Combat specialist "Negev" reporting in, be prepared to make good use of me.
@USSEnterpriseA1701
@USSEnterpriseA1701 5 жыл бұрын
Between the profile pic and the name, something isn't terribly surprising about this comment (and I don't mean that in a bad way). There is, after all, a reason my ears perked up at the mention of 460mm.
@dereenaldoambun9158
@dereenaldoambun9158 5 жыл бұрын
Oh damn I didn't expect this kind of comment here. A welcome one for sure.
@張瑋劭-m3z
@張瑋劭-m3z 5 жыл бұрын
I just expect there will be GFL comments
@thelore2755
@thelore2755 5 жыл бұрын
@@張瑋劭-m3z same
@blackstone1a
@blackstone1a 5 жыл бұрын
I knew I would find this here
@RetroVikingr89
@RetroVikingr89 5 жыл бұрын
The Israelis do make some well though out and superb weapons.
@tommyscaletta
@tommyscaletta 5 жыл бұрын
German weapons all the way :)
@dancingisraelimovingsystem2869
@dancingisraelimovingsystem2869 5 жыл бұрын
@@slaughterround643 OY VEY!! Its annudah sho'a!!!
@tireiron5546
@tireiron5546 5 жыл бұрын
Vladamir Tushkey more like anything that is not a bolt action or m16 style weapon.
@dr.eckschwein1062
@dr.eckschwein1062 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, and they also make the Desert Eagle.
@tireiron5546
@tireiron5546 5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Eckschwein not anymore they don’t
@Lukeclout
@Lukeclout 2 жыл бұрын
Current 249 gunner. Operating the Negev is way easier especially at night. Even the muscle memory for mag changes, are the same with the 200 round drum. The smaller dust cover makes reloading in the dark under pressure way easier. Not to mention the Negev is way easier to zero with the selector switch. US we need the Negev to replace the 240 and 249 !
@notrequired602
@notrequired602 5 жыл бұрын
I love this comment section, so many memes from multiple communities that are ranging from CS:GO with the accurate laser spray, BL Hyperion MG jabs and GFL with the specialist android.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining the problems with M249 magazine feed problems. Very nice LMG on the video. Things learned.
@dmanx500
@dmanx500 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like a very, very nice and well thought out squad automatic.
@zman9415
@zman9415 5 жыл бұрын
For those curious about what the Hebrew selector markings mean: נצ נצור (Natz-oor) Hebrew letters Nun and Tsadik are used to indicate the safe position. They are an abbreviation for נָצוּר (Natz-oor) which can translate as an adjective to "safe" or "locked". ב בודדת (Bo-ded-det) The Hebrew letter Bet is used to indicate the semi-automatic position. It is an abbreviation for בּוֹדֵדת (Bo-ded-det) which translates as an adjective to "single". א אוטומטי (Auto-mati) The Hebrew letter Alef is used to indicate the fully-automatic position. It is an abbreviation for אוֹטוֹמָטִי (Auto-mati) which translates as an adjective to, this is the easy one, "automatic". This is from a post I wrote on the Galil, which has the same markings on its selector. The UZI also shares these markings.
@razbiton173
@razbiton173 5 жыл бұрын
@MrZapparin maybe רציף- (Ra-Ts-if) which means continous. anyway as a hebrew speaker we use the word automatic also in hebrew as is- theres no better replacement :)
@bruceinoz8002
@bruceinoz8002 11 ай бұрын
Similar to the original slightly cryptic markings used by H&K: S E F Safe Economy FUN?
@denyspoyner4150
@denyspoyner4150 3 жыл бұрын
As a welder and Fabricator of 20 + years, look at those TIG welds !!!! A+++ awesomeness !!!
@bruhmoment2438
@bruhmoment2438 3 жыл бұрын
Having a specialist like Negev is more than enough
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 3 жыл бұрын
I really want one of these; watching the SOT forums like a hawk for one 😎
@randymagnum143
@randymagnum143 5 жыл бұрын
I'm always amazed how many bipods on expensive weapons systems aren't as good as a simple Harris bipod.
@dualsportrider3221
@dualsportrider3221 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry bud versa pod the best set up out their.
@Isaac-ho8gh
@Isaac-ho8gh 5 жыл бұрын
Its not that bad, but its legs are longer than the Harris bipod ones I think though.
@marshaul
@marshaul 5 жыл бұрын
They have a prone and sniper nest version with short and shorter legs, but obviously this is irrelevant because they are all heavier than the Harris. It is heretical to install pigs on my WWSD.
@mfree80286
@mfree80286 5 жыл бұрын
Might be a soldier-proofing thing, I was screwing around with an unmounted Harris in the shop one day during a staff meeting and managed to misconfigure myself. Turns out the legs have enough closing force to sink the blunt edge of the stop nearly to the bone on the pad of my pinky finger... and then I couldn't open it for having no leverage :)
@Mac-pi4cy
@Mac-pi4cy 5 жыл бұрын
@@mfree80286 I ve done that too. Oh ouch i said...
@999.9finegold
@999.9finegold 11 ай бұрын
Until 20 years ago, the one carrying the machine gun was called a "maklean" which in simple language is a machine-guner. But since the Negev entered service, the machine guners are called "Negevist".
@PauzSycho
@PauzSycho 5 жыл бұрын
So this is the “2000$ Lazerbeam” that iNotorious was talking about
@oktayyildirim2911
@oktayyildirim2911 5 жыл бұрын
I hate that guy. He just spews blatantly false info.
@mohammedriadh4990
@mohammedriadh4990 4 жыл бұрын
1700$
@monotheisticmortal5122
@monotheisticmortal5122 4 жыл бұрын
@@oktayyildirim2911 Nah he be speaking the truth
@sannidhyabalkote9536
@sannidhyabalkote9536 4 жыл бұрын
@@monotheisticmortal5122 He died to a autosniper for four rounds and a m249for five rounds , all in a row, Therefore he is tilted
@dzgames2945
@dzgames2945 3 жыл бұрын
@@oktayyildirim2911 you know his videos are old so the info was true when the video was released not now
@danchoen3847
@danchoen3847 4 жыл бұрын
One of the things I like the most about the IDF and Israeli industry in general is that they don't take good enough. They take a good enough weapon and turn it into an excellent one tailored for the needs of the army, making the designers and the procurer's of the original weapon drool.
@Deamons64
@Deamons64 5 жыл бұрын
This definitely will set you back more than 1,700$...
@sonnyhuimingzhou418
@sonnyhuimingzhou418 5 жыл бұрын
This gun’s dmg stat doubles with each reload.
@N1te0wl141
@N1te0wl141 5 жыл бұрын
99% of people here won't get that reference probably. But bless you good sir, I still don't have her yet :(
@onir7869
@onir7869 5 жыл бұрын
Carweirdo Also provides body armor to shotguns in front of it
@DonDiesel885
@DonDiesel885 5 жыл бұрын
what are you talking about fam
@sonnyhuimingzhou418
@sonnyhuimingzhou418 5 жыл бұрын
Nicholas G weeb game lol.
@heartseekerquinn7681
@heartseekerquinn7681 5 жыл бұрын
Poor Judge didn't stand a chance for Negev, SAT8 and KSG squad
@mrplague9881
@mrplague9881 5 жыл бұрын
I'm excited to see your impression on the range. Great video, as always!
@edwardvijga
@edwardvijga 5 жыл бұрын
Gun Jesus should stream himself playing GFL and review it lmao
@jack_copperz
@jack_copperz 4 жыл бұрын
Should also do CS:GO and that other third game with their MG jabs
@VRemnant
@VRemnant 3 жыл бұрын
This
@negevkek4life809
@negevkek4life809 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes. The best combat specialist and adjustant you could ever ask for, commander.
@SlimRhyno
@SlimRhyno 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you for doing the Negev; my favorite LMG ever! As always, very well done!
@Astra_Dystopium
@Astra_Dystopium 5 жыл бұрын
I just found you’re channel a couple days ago. I’ve done nothing but watch your gun videos for days now. Good job. And thank you.
@pizzerinoitaliano3049
@pizzerinoitaliano3049 5 жыл бұрын
-OK guys, we play eco This one guy -no
@cheezkid2689
@cheezkid2689 4 жыл бұрын
Funny, because the Negev is fairly eco-friendly, being only 1700 nowadays.
@olliegoria
@olliegoria 3 жыл бұрын
@@cheezkid2689 It used to be the most expensive weapon you could get.
@cheezkid2689
@cheezkid2689 3 жыл бұрын
@@olliegoria I know. That's why I said it.
@Tankliker
@Tankliker 5 жыл бұрын
Will you do a review on the MG3, MG4 and MG5?
@SchwertKruemel
@SchwertKruemel 5 жыл бұрын
well the mg3 is just an mg42 in 7.62nato
@HingerlAlois
@HingerlAlois 5 жыл бұрын
Or a lil bit of shooting with the MG6...
@Tankliker
@Tankliker 5 жыл бұрын
@@HingerlAlois MG6 is a car XD
@HingerlAlois
@HingerlAlois 5 жыл бұрын
Eric_The_Viking the Justin Y. version with an axt In the German Military it‘s the designation for the miniguns (Dillon Aero M134D) used to arm the new Airbus H145M helicopters. They’re used to transport the German KSK special forces. kzbin.info/www/bejne/en6VoYmGlpmDbLc
@Tankliker
@Tankliker 5 жыл бұрын
@Orel Brenn did the FN Minimi has its own cleaning kit in the stock?
@ErnestoPresso
@ErnestoPresso 5 жыл бұрын
CS:GO references coming in 3...2...1...
@PHURHXD
@PHURHXD 5 жыл бұрын
ITS ONLY $2,000
@weavercs4014
@weavercs4014 5 жыл бұрын
@@PHURHXD 1700. You must be new
@Mei-wk5mt
@Mei-wk5mt 4 жыл бұрын
Bomb has been planted
@holo379
@holo379 4 жыл бұрын
Then there's the GFL weebs
@CocoTehQuila
@CocoTehQuila 5 жыл бұрын
I presume you meant long-stroke gas system and not short recoil... since it has a piston and a non reciprocating barrell, from what I can see.
@nicholasmaugeri759
@nicholasmaugeri759 4 жыл бұрын
Got to shoot this when my unit cross trained with the IDF
@magicalgirl1296
@magicalgirl1296 5 жыл бұрын
D-do I make a CS:GO reference or a GFL reference? o.o'
@張瑋劭-m3z
@張瑋劭-m3z 5 жыл бұрын
D O B O T H
@magicalgirl1296
@magicalgirl1296 5 жыл бұрын
@@張瑋劭-m3z no one man should have that much power
@AD-dm7bm
@AD-dm7bm 5 жыл бұрын
Negev is a laser beam, and the best weapon to humiliate judge with
@sleepy_boi7552
@sleepy_boi7552 4 жыл бұрын
@@AD-dm7bm also the damage increases each reload
@mannam9468
@mannam9468 4 жыл бұрын
Make a war crimes reference, cause the Jews sure know a thing or two about that.
@scottybeegood
@scottybeegood 5 жыл бұрын
But does it has a bottle opener?
@benjamine8387
@benjamine8387 5 жыл бұрын
Scott Butts unlike the galil, the soldiers that use it don’t take it home. So no reason for a bottle opener. Although it is a missing feature from the tavor
@orenyehezqel8178
@orenyehezqel8178 5 жыл бұрын
No, but it have a terrorist opener.
@georgesakellaropoulos7060
@georgesakellaropoulos7060 5 жыл бұрын
It is a bottle opener. Just place the bottle down range, and squeeze off a burst.
@grahamlopez6202
@grahamlopez6202 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Use the edge of the top cover
@andrewatrashman5125
@andrewatrashman5125 3 жыл бұрын
Designer: "How many dust covers do you want?" Israeli military: "YES."
@Sammie1053
@Sammie1053 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense when you remember that the gun is named after a desert
@vanish3886
@vanish3886 3 жыл бұрын
In the IDF, we always put a string on the bipods which helps to fold and deploy them fast
@schoolbus6028
@schoolbus6028 3 жыл бұрын
@@natty4316 that's what Hitler said?
@Brawler_1337
@Brawler_1337 5 жыл бұрын
All I can think of when it comes to the Negev is SovietWomble picking one up and mashing down the trigger.
@food_toobs8333
@food_toobs8333 5 жыл бұрын
Also, kill half his team as they walk in front of him. I was looking for someone to mention Womble lol.
@marcjehle2480
@marcjehle2480 4 жыл бұрын
"How did i die, i shot my gun and everything."
@theArcanaOFZero
@theArcanaOFZero 5 жыл бұрын
CUTIE SPECIALIST I will oath you soon Negev
@willthorson4543
@willthorson4543 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who carried a SAW, I never used the magazine in actual service. I did use magazines on a range. The big issue we had was the rate of fire. You go thru magazines like crazy, that's if they don't jam. But I loved shooting the SAW.
@CarlosRios1
@CarlosRios1 3 жыл бұрын
6:04 when you hit the ground with the crowbar in Half Life.
@Nicolay406
@Nicolay406 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@docmoreau7540
@docmoreau7540 3 жыл бұрын
This weapon is a hell of example of thoughtful engineering.
@zman9415
@zman9415 5 жыл бұрын
Great to see a video on this. It may not be the sexiest looking LMG, but it's a great weapon and design! I can confirm that these are a lot of fun to shoot and pretty controllable. I was able to put a belt through a Negev SF (Special Forces/Short Barrel). Rather strange to have a three-position selector, but having semi-auto was quite interesting. They can also take a lot of punishment. The ones I saw in Israel were absolutely filthy with pretty much everything (and lots of sand), and they were in the armory for just a basic inspection; none had problems. The shorter top cover not only allows you to have the top rail mounted to the receiver, and therefore have a more reliable zero, but it also makes reloads a bit less awkward as you're not moving as much bulk around. It seems like a small thing, but it makes a noticeable difference.
@KamenRiderDC
@KamenRiderDC 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, the "Specialist" is finally here
@NymPLUS
@NymPLUS 5 жыл бұрын
"some said they dont even have Negev in their game file"
@rangevipercobra436
@rangevipercobra436 5 жыл бұрын
I think it was this or the Ultimax that I saw in my first gun magazine and I wanted so bad growing up
@munmunmurmur4920
@munmunmurmur4920 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why I’m stuck in a marathon of these videos. I’m not even into guns or anything the presentation is just done really well.
@mothmagic1
@mothmagic1 9 ай бұрын
Always love Ian's videos. I learn so much about the techncal side of a weapon from them. Not just well known weapons but lesser known weapons.
@zaca952
@zaca952 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the finest light machine gun in existence, If only we could repeal the NFA!
@JonatanSHOW1
@JonatanSHOW1 4 жыл бұрын
In Hebrew "Negev" is the southern part of Israel. Mainly dessert terrain. "Galil" is the northern part of israel. Lots of woods and coldish weather.
@BleedingUranium
@BleedingUranium 5 жыл бұрын
"Just a couple years ago, in 2012", is STILL something I find myself saying/thinking most days...
@FlinnGaidin
@FlinnGaidin 5 жыл бұрын
It's a rather American thing...to say "a couple" when you mean "a few".
@BleedingUranium
@BleedingUranium 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlinnGaidin No no, my point was that 2012 feels much more recent than it actually is.
@FlinnGaidin
@FlinnGaidin 5 жыл бұрын
I hear you. Still is an Americanism, the way he used it, lol.
@austinsears1637
@austinsears1637 5 жыл бұрын
I has no idea how I got here to see this video this morning but as always I am enjoy, much like the other forgotten videos!!! Much much knowledge!!! ALL THE KNOWLEDGE!!!!
@mikewysko2268
@mikewysko2268 5 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a TRW low maintenance rifle some time in the future.
@shashaw08
@shashaw08 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, just an insight. You talked about zero'ing and the use of semi auto. Little trick of the trade is that we single load rounds on 249's/240's during zeroing. I can't say for certain but it's been a pretty common practice of any military I've worked with to zero this way. As you can imagine zeroing isn't really practical even with short burst. Even single loading it's difficult to get a proper zero with an open bolt gun, usually requiring the gunner to load the bipod with their body weight. The long heavy trigger doesn't help that much either.
@heartseekerquinn7681
@heartseekerquinn7681 5 жыл бұрын
Judge won't even know what hit her
@sopmodtew8399
@sopmodtew8399 4 жыл бұрын
Oof,no bulli
@Irondrone4
@Irondrone4 4 жыл бұрын
*Slaps gun* This baby can fit SO many dust covers in it!
@Entropy-2
@Entropy-2 5 жыл бұрын
GOD GFL players are already in the comments
@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts
@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to try one of these out one day I was always impressed wit how trim it was for a belt fed
@chikitabowow
@chikitabowow 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait until we get to see this gun on the range
@jamesregan2181
@jamesregan2181 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very informative. While I have served more than 13 years with the US Army Infantry, I never get tired learning about other interesting firearms. I learned of the FN Minimi and MAG prior to their adoption by the USA reading JANE’s, SOF and various books and magazines. I was happy to eventually be able to put them to good use in training and combat prior to my final ETS in 1992. This weapon sounds interesting and I will have to conduct further research. Thank you for your efforts on our behalf.
@LisaKeskitalo
@LisaKeskitalo 5 жыл бұрын
I remember awhile back that Israel got some 1919 Browning’s from the US. Then after they became obsolete they converted them to semi auto and sold them back to the US for civilian sale.
@loub4879
@loub4879 5 жыл бұрын
I've got one of those they are neat, triggers suck.
@ReasonAboveEverything
@ReasonAboveEverything 5 жыл бұрын
Make money be happy
@marcjehle2480
@marcjehle2480 4 жыл бұрын
@@sirbader1 its not just guns, in europe they were barred from working as smiths or bakers and all the other stuff. So the only jobs left were basically loan other people money and after that the jews quickly became some of the richest people in town, which angered the other people, because they were jealous. Basically the stereotypes of jews regarding money come from a few people( mostly christians) wanting jews to not be competitors and then wondering why they make more money when they were only allowed to deal with money
@craighorsburgh8055
@craighorsburgh8055 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, I was wondering when you were going to do one on the Negev. Already a historic piece of kit dispute its relative infancy. As some operators and people have pointed out in the comments, you did miss some things, but they're actually minor when compared to the amount of relatively unknown features and "points" (for lack of a better word) that you discuss and bring up. A great video. Big thumbs up and keep up the great work.
@inasatok
@inasatok 5 жыл бұрын
I heard that it mostly used by russian soldiers, and really effective in office buildings.
@KaDaJxClonE
@KaDaJxClonE 5 жыл бұрын
No russian.
@DD_Vandal
@DD_Vandal 5 жыл бұрын
Many counter terrorist forces use it too. It is cheap and good for holding corners with its wall of bullets
@Hungarian_
@Hungarian_ 5 жыл бұрын
also firing it makes you 2x slower
@RhuBin02
@RhuBin02 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hungarian_ nah just switch to a pistol u will be faster
@זהסודי-ה7מ
@זהסודי-ה7מ 2 жыл бұрын
That's the FN MAG
@captainshitacular2600
@captainshitacular2600 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video, Ian!! Thank you for your informative and highly professional videos 👍
@cipherthedemonlord8057
@cipherthedemonlord8057 5 жыл бұрын
Man now I want one of these she's a fine Specialist LMG.
@SlimRhyno
@SlimRhyno 5 жыл бұрын
Dear FN Minimi, Please, don't feel so bad. I'll always cherish our time together, but I have grown as a military and feel like I deserve something better. Have no fear, though. Soon you will have a ton of suitors as 2nd-tier armies transition from legacy systems... and you will be the bell of the ball all over again!
@lolyankovic6952
@lolyankovic6952 5 жыл бұрын
Nice for posting this on 20th anniversary of Counterstrike (Almost)
@alchemist889
@alchemist889 5 жыл бұрын
Back in my day, Negev wasn't even in CS... neither was Galil, for that matter.
@lolyankovic6952
@lolyankovic6952 5 жыл бұрын
alchemist89 Well I forgot about IMI Negev's absence But IMI galil was present in 1.6,I use it everyday
@PBMS123
@PBMS123 10 ай бұрын
12:00 you missed the lever that locks the bolt and carrier from being cocked when you put it into safe. Just to the right of the sear there a long piece up against the right inside side of the receiver.
@HappiKarafuru
@HappiKarafuru 5 жыл бұрын
GFL player when sees Negev *Run* Yandere girls is here!
@ayylmao8901
@ayylmao8901 5 жыл бұрын
just gotta hold the trigger down til you've shot 15 rounds, and then laser the enemy team. all for 1700$
@UncleMerlin
@UncleMerlin 5 жыл бұрын
@@ayylmao8901 I can't decide whether or not to make a CS:GO meme or a GFL meme
@HeIsAnAli
@HeIsAnAli 5 жыл бұрын
@@UncleMerlin Yes.
@mohammedriadh4990
@mohammedriadh4990 4 жыл бұрын
@@UncleMerlin oh look it's the dick wizard
@BeefaloBart
@BeefaloBart 5 жыл бұрын
So its a belt feed Galil. Nuf said, hard to go wrong with the Galil as its base. Oh and with the M249 first gens, we used to put the 30 round AR mag spring into a 20 round mag, it helped feed with the extra tension but held like 14 rounds. We called em suicide mags, you get about a 1 second burst which in theory might be just enough to get your butt round a corner if you had no belts. And yes nothing beats being a saw gunner, calling for ammo, and getting a can full of 20 round boxes and not even on strippers. So you spend every free moment grabbing links from the ground and making belts as you go.
@pvecchierini
@pvecchierini 5 жыл бұрын
And so the Gun Jesus reviewed the Gun of the Promised Land, and He said it was good...
@richardlont4480
@richardlont4480 5 жыл бұрын
He's promoting his own weapons
@camo576
@camo576 4 жыл бұрын
having had to use the Minimi on mags due to Australian millitary under spending, it did not fail on on M16 mags. I ran mag on patrol so my belts didn't get dusted. Our Minimi's were Aussie made though....
@Anomalirious
@Anomalirious 5 жыл бұрын
3 steps to using this weapon:- 1)Buy the weapon 2)Rush B while crouching and keep firing 3)Profit ??? !!
@Govrin.
@Govrin. 5 жыл бұрын
Its 1 blank 2 blank 3 ??? 4profit!
@AD-dm7bm
@AD-dm7bm 5 жыл бұрын
4) humiliate judge
@CoryHobbs2178
@CoryHobbs2178 5 жыл бұрын
The engineering that goes into these guns is mind boggling
@NatorGreen7000
@NatorGreen7000 5 жыл бұрын
12:23 wish the m4a1 carbine had a thing like that.
@omrisapir7443
@omrisapir7443 5 жыл бұрын
fun fact from an Israeli veteran. before the negev' the standard SAW for the infantry was the F.N MAG, witch is WAY too heavy to be a "light" machine gun. the minime was only used by special forces. so you can guess how happy the troops were to get a machine gun that was WAY more modern and weighs about half as the MAG does. also, if i remember correctly, the early models didn't have the rail on the back for optics. rather just one on the front for laser pointers. as i recall, they also had a complicated ratchet system for the charging handle. i guess it was taken out after i left the service in 2002
@avishai7830
@avishai7830 4 жыл бұрын
The ratchet system is still there haha
@thescientist1245
@thescientist1245 5 жыл бұрын
The $1700 *specialist* laser beam.
@NerfTango1
@NerfTango1 5 жыл бұрын
I haven’t clicked is fast on a Forgotten Weapons video. I’m fascinated with Israeli weapons and hope that you’ll be able to cover them all one day. Hoping that you do a video on the TAR-21 and X95 one day (though those two would be more history focused)!
@panzerdragon1121
@panzerdragon1121 5 жыл бұрын
if you hold mouse1 for about 3 seconds it gets extremely accurate
@jpmangen
@jpmangen 2 жыл бұрын
I was testing the M249 in the 80’s while stationed at Fort Bragg. We were instructed to use magazines as a last resort. We found that you needed to turn the gas regulator to to the lower rounds per minute and if possible use your non firing hand on the bottom of the magazine and apply upward pressure. We had good success using these methods. However, let me stress that it was drilled in us to use the magazine as a last result.
@posadistraptor
@posadistraptor 5 жыл бұрын
I love Negev-chan
@douglassorren9798
@douglassorren9798 5 жыл бұрын
“They actually came out with a new version a couple years ago in 2012” - Ian in 2019
@ccmogs5757
@ccmogs5757 4 жыл бұрын
Credit where its due , when it comes to weapons the IDF knows its stuff !
@jameskazd9951
@jameskazd9951 3 жыл бұрын
This looks like a really solid LMG design. that barrel change is awesome.
The Israeli Galil
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