Formal vs Informal Italian - Beginner Italian Course: Lesson 9

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I am a Spanish speaker, I started to watch your videos just out of curiosity and I'm really enjoying them. Because the two languages are similar in some ways, I watched videos 1-9 in one sitting XD. I especially like this video! It's really nuanced, very helpful in understanding both the language and the culture. Thank you for your work.

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Little easy for Spanish people right?? Both languages are pretty similar

[@Angel99999]

Yeah pretty much tbh we use kinda the same vocabulary and vowels, and some words are spelled and sound the same, I think it’s really amazing how similar the culture are

[@MissJess0004]

As a history major with an interest in linguistics, I can tell you saying something like "Is sir enjoying his wine?" is not bad English at all its definitely archaic English that's totally fallen out of use but not technically wrong.

[@joshina4497]

I'm so glad that I'm German, because this concept feels so natural and easy to me, I can't imagine how hard it must be for someone coming from languages like English...

[@lauramarlo8108]

Buongiorno Mano! I have taken Italian 101 many times with different teachers and no one has ever taught us these very important basics as you have. Thank you so very very much for teaching us these very important concepts!

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[@paulwalther5237]

Japan takes this formality to a whole new level but it seems like Italians take formality pretty seriously too. You might enjoy Japanese.

[@ApolloMyLove1999]

I learned japanese in college, and I gave up on it. To me it's just really annoying because Japanese is based on Chinese while English is much similar to Italiano and still stays connected. Learning a "strange" language is a torture to some people I guess.

[@Little_15]

I'm Polish and thankfully we have the same rules so it makes it so much easier to comprehend 😊

[@leslies.9262]

in spanish we do this too! lots of context needed but we use the formal “usted” for anyone we may not know personally, older people, or professionals

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[@NotSpielberg]

Formality simply shows respect.

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Esatto Nick!

[@jasonlove8733]

I never thought of Lei being translated as “ Does the lady…” i come from a French background so I think of Vous is the 2nd person plural as used for the formal you, but your explanation of indirect addressing as a way to formalize the you makes sense👍🏻👍🏻 grazie

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Ciao Jason, we are glad that our explanation of the formal vs informal was useful for you, stay tuned for more! 😍

[@elodieadams68]

Anche mio! At first I was confused with the use off the 2nd person plural not being formal because of the French.

[@NickRossi]

This was my experience too, since I learned French in high school. I'm glad that I came across this video as it was an excellent explanation. Grazie, Signor Mano!

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[@theamarcord1332]

It’s similar to Tu and Vous in French. I totally understand.

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Fantastico (ancora!) Grazie per questa importante informazione culturale!

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Thank you, signore Venditti!

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[@TheMonkeywobbler]

A good example for the English equivalent for 'does she like the wine, ma'am?' could be - ' does the lady like wine?' or 'does the gentleman like this wine?'. If you think about it like that, it makes sense to my English brain!

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[@Stevecamden]

I think perhaps ‘ does sir/madam like the wine or would sir/madam like to try the wine. Bravo Manu!

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I was searching Italian courses, but others were very noisy and putting extra energy into teaching Italian, for me, you were very natural. i don't know about others, thanks, bro....

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[@VoltesWithElias]

This is interesting. So in Italian you use the third person singlular feminine (Lei) to show formal respect when speaking to someone. In Greek we use the first person plural to show that formal respect.

[@suzanajenic4918]

I love that you're teaching us in a very respectful way of language. :)

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[@alexplough4036]

In russian, we have the same formal rules. We use Plural form when we communicate with older people, bosses, unfamiliar people. Plural form is like You plural but just one word.

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[@sloanezhao2862]

Grazie Manu!👍 I totally understand the formally-addressed "Lei". It's like in British English when you're addressing the Queen/King, or when you jokingly ask your family/friends whether they like something, you would say, "Does Your Highness/Majesty enjoy the wine?" ;) In Chinese, we also have the formal form of "tu" ("你") -- "您" which shares the same use cases as "Lei" in formal Italian ;)

[@william63]

Thank you for the course, I am enjoying it very much. In this video I think it would have helped if you had given the same sentence in Italian in both the informal style and the informal style so we could see how it works; you only seemed to give it in English.

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[@gracielacobo5412]

Senora in Spanish is for a married lady. Senorita in Spanish is for an unmarried lady. Do you distinguish also in Italian or just use Signora for both? Thank you Signor Venditti!

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Ciao Graciela! We have "signora" for married and "signorina" for unmarried 😊

[@annefalola9278]

I find Italian so very interesting! Thank you for making it easy, I find the Italian language so similar to my mother tongue- Yoruba from west Africa - very vocal, tonal and formal. Grazie mile❤

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Molto utile! Grazie Manu!

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[@jennyv5901]

Great explanation! Thanks!!!

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[@atikaarab6374]

day 6 : it was a bit complicated but vetry helpful, so grazie mille. Just a brief feedback I wish you had given some formal examples in Italian using Lei.

[@mohamedmohsen8091]

I understand it well because I studied Polish language and it is exactly the same way when you speak formal as using the third verb with ( sir or ma'am ) during speak to man or woman to show respect

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[@foxit5962]

Estas primeras lecciones me parecieron muy faciles ya que hablo español y la pronunciacion es similar. Muy bueno ;)

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Using this to learn alongside some books. Also decided to set a video game with lots of dialogue to italian to help study as well

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[@brainstorm0203]

This format exists in Russian as well. It’s bad manners to address someone using “tu” unless specifically permitted (unless of course exceptions apply) but instead of “lei” we use a word that more close to English ״you” (as in plural, not singular.) I didn’t realize that Italian is so similar in it’s form to Russian albeit totally different language groups.

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wow Rita, it's very interesting! Thank you for sharing it with us!

[@sjdyt]

Buon giorno. I love this sort of thing! For me, I think knowing when to be formal / informal should be reasonably straightforward but recalling the right language to use will be a challenge! Can’t wait to embarrass myself in September 😂

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[@whychromosomesmusic5766]

If I write a letter to distant cousins in Italy I would presume that they don't know me so therefore I would initially be formal. Is this correct? However I regularly communicate with another distant cousin online and I have even found documents of his ancestors for him and he has found documents for me. I use the informal language with him. Again is this correct? I am in my 60s and he is the same generation as my mother.

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Ciao, it's Marty from Italy Made Easy. Usually, we utilize the formal language with people we never had a connection before, or when we want to show respect to an elder person, our boss, or maybe a teacher. But if we have a regular conversation with a person, then we can use the informal language. I hope this was helpful! 😄💯

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Thank you Manu 😊

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[@Saharaocea]

I'm impressed by how Iranian culture is similar to Italian culture in terms of formality, especially using Signora or Signor before names to show politeness and when it comes to addressing people with titles and how people work hard to be called by titles 😂

[@shiriva9900]

Hey! Wanted to ask if do we use the Lei and the title of the person in the same sentence or its or this or that? Thanks!

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Just to flag lesson 7 is missing from the playlist. Thank you for all your work

[@JohnSpo]

if you're cursing someone out on the road whilst driving and you can see they are older than you or perhaps someone of obviously higher social status, should you be formal or casual? Do formalities go out the finestra when you're arguing with someone or belittling them?

[@jenniferjones3503]

Same in Welsh. We use formal for people who are our seniors or strangers.

[@scarletdemoncn2545]

I have troubles in memorizing italian verbs. I can read and understant somwhat but i have troubles speaking and memorizing the words. Can anyone help?

[@vbellanova]

Is it common for the person with higher status to reciprocate the formality? For example, would a doctor also speak to their patient formally?

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Ciao Nick! Thank you for your question. Generally yes, it happens and it is considered polite if the person with the "higher status" reciprocates the formality.

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I'm in italy right now. Been 4 weeks here, I'm still struggling how to speak and understand Italian. I hope manu will be a great help for mee

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Good teacher.

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Same rules in Latvian as well, which is great, because this might be a tricky concept to grasp when hearing it for rhe first time. But you qre doing an amazing job explaining it! 🤗👌💜

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Manu, potete consigliarmi insegnanti italiani che insegnano in francese? Sono bilingue inglese/francese ma penso che l'italiano sia molto più simile al francese. 🙏

[@paulwalther5237]

In Latin American Spanish they use the word Usted a lot like you're explaining Lei. Technically it's third person but I don't think of it as third person when I use it. I just think of it as the formal tu. Just say enough and it feels natural. No need to overthink it. Btw I'm enjoying your videos. I was thinking I would prefer an immersion approach but I can just listen to this while doing something else. Very easy.

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[@VEE727]

Would you use formal or casual with an older person of your family? Example: father

[@leestringer]

I had no idea this was a cultural norm in Italy. Thank you.

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Good morning sir I Liston to you from last 4days listen something new ,I am so excited to learn Italian,is it possible pl help me

[@dayveo]

I feel like the only (or closest?) English equivalent would be if you were speaking to the King or Queen

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Ok ok, now it's getting good!

[@brillo303]

As per the other lessons, perfectly explained.

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Grazie mille🙏🌹

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[@wfox7280]

Same situation with formal and informal verbs in Russia. Absolutely the same.

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I loved your teaching. BTW i am from Nepal and coming italy to study in Naples.

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Thank you 😊

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[@organboi]

At 1:07. He meant to say "INformally" there, not formally.

[@jcp0061]

It’s similar to how waitstaff in a fancy restaurant talk to patrons or Downton Abbey staff refer to the lords/ladies. “Would the lady care for an apertif?”

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9th lesson, I've never been more committed to a Language

[@johnhiatt2563]

Can someone explain why if I ask someone informally if they can speak english then I'd ask "Parli inglese?" And to ask the same question formally would be "Parla inglese? But If I want to demand/request/strongly suggest in a formal way to "speak english" then it would be "Parli inglese?" and the informal demand/request/strongly suggest is "Parla inglese?" Why do demands/requests/strongly suggest flip the formal/informal i & a endings of -are verbs on it's head?

[@mateuszwlazlo94]

In Polish we keep the formality very serious too. If you by mistake refer to someone without the right formality then good luck, all drama starts :D

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Buongiorno signore Manu 😜 😊

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[@antionetteishmael2755]

HI, could you send me the sentence "Does (the sir) like the wine?" I would like to see how it is written in Italian.

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Ciao Antionette, in Italian we say _ "gli piace il vino?"_ (if we are referring to a man) 😁 we hope this was helpful!

[@mariocatanese1011]

How would you use this with the formal Lei? Lei piace il vino? ( does the sir like the wine)

[@sandhyakale674]

lesson 9 completed

[@joannalalicata1281]

I am also learning both Spanish and Italian and Im already somewhat familiar with the Italian language since thats my nationality. But the formal vs informal lessons always frustrates me because not only am I going to stumble on a simple sentence but I also have to remember to translate all these formal words?!? As a beginner I would think learning this lesson should be last!

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Ciao! We are sorry you are experiencing frustration with the formal vs informal language! We try to make it as easy as we could 💪 we understand it's a difficult topic, but it's very important to make sure you come off as polite when you speak Italian. Just a bit of practice and you'll master it, we promise! 💪

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[@dmitriysmirnov9084]

I know that polish people use that form of formal conversations😮. In Russia before revolution it existed either, but now it's practically gone. For modern russians it sounds quite werid, even sometimes menacing, so we don't use it (well, maybe sometimes in very pretentious cases)😂

[@jr.plant-sub]

Is it shifting in Italy as well as in the Netherlands? the formal /informal as the "younger generation "gets older? We have "je'= 'tu' and ' u ' which is 'lei". But people from , say, the age of 30 -60..don't really want to be addressed with 'u' anymore...makes them feel old. When you start using "u/lei" they are like "no please say 'je/tu". But there is this...sort of unclear dimension ..which , as I listen to you , also exists in Italian. With some people you just know you should use "u/lei' because they'll probably appreciate it. But if someone has been your dentist throughout your life, even when he is (this makes sense...if he is your dentist your entire life) much older than you, you can still say "je/tu".

[@alexanderreiner7694]

Which Pet would complain about how you adress them?

[@rizwanzaman9719]

Good work

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[@eamonndoherty9945]

Hi, as someone who plans to visit italy someday and will be addressing everyone as a stranger does that mean ii will never use the "you pronoun " . I will always use the " lei /lui " form of adress when speaking to someone ?

[@italymadeeasy]

When you speak formally to someone, yes, you'll use "Lei" 🤗

[@nathanl.4528]

8:40 Reminds me of Game of Thrones. "If it pleases my Lord!"

[@jackieo8693]

Ottima spegazione

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Grazie 🤓

[@lillelisejansen]

actually 'you' is the formal version in English. 'thou' used to be casual but eventually they dropped casual entirely and now only have formal. 'you'

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Thank you for your interesting comment, Lise🤗

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❤️manu

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[@stonew1927]

Instead of presenting "lei" as "she" I think it would be less confusing in this lesson to simply emphasize that lei has two meanings, she and the formal form of you. So for the sake of understanding the formal conjungation, one should use lei, and forget that it also means she, for now.

[@MegaRich7]

Why is it Signore and not Signoro?

[@kleoqwer]

This is the easiest concept of Italian for me so far as we have the same in Ukrainian

[@SasageTheUndead]

I like how many similarities there are between polish and Italian.

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Really? That's very interesting😍

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Is there any one, with whom I can interact by oral conversations to speak Italian? If yes, kindly let me know

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Grazie Signor Venditti (even though we are the same age lol).

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[@md.imranhossain6959]

Signore, you should add more example than long speech about formal & informal. Thank you.

[@jasonlove8733]

Diamoci del tu😮🎉🎉🎉

[@bluebaum2.7.16]

I think this is the only Video I'll skip as it's basically the same as in German. I watched the first few minutes though and it's kind of interesting to see this concept explained like this growing up in Germany it's so natural that you don't really think about it.

[@bluebaum2.7.16]

Just skipped about a bit more and it's actually exactly the same even the capitalisation

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We are happy to know that, in any case, you find it interesting. Grazie 🤗

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Signor manu Lemme be the first to say that😊😂😎

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😂 great job! But we are all among friends here - I can be just Manu 🤩💪

[@grismuerto]

0:50, me who is under 15 skipping this lesson /j

[@MLCloneCODgamer]

It's funny, it's the same thing in French where I live

[@jasonlove8733]

Dammi del tu, Manu👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@kornelia..]

In Polish it's literally the same!