Format Wars: Blu-Ray vs. HD DVD

[@MrMagnaFarce]

After Blu-ray won out I had a blast buying up HD-DVDs for pennies on the dollar. I bought my player for $12 at the flea market and would buy movies for a couple bucks a piece. Didn't even have an HDTV back then, but they were cheaper than buying regular DVDs. Always pays off being a late adopter.

[@TheBikemaster94]

I still buy lots of standard DVDS of good movies on egays, lots of sellers offer discounts if you buy in more than 2. I know I can download in higher quality but some files become corrupted and have pixelated scenes , perhaps it's my equipment . The DVD has special/bonus content and overall happy with it , I still use 1080p resolution on a PS3. The best Iconic movies I usually buy blue ray, hopefully after 2020 I'll have a 4ktv but my current setup works well 1080p w/ 5.1 Dolby.

[@moladiver6817]

@@TheBikemaster94 DVD though uses horrible PAL or NTSC interlaced video. I much rather download SD quality of a HD master. Then you get a much bigger color range as well as full frames. I personally haven't used DVD since the year 2001 when I got my first broadband internet connection at home. Never used a physical image or audio carrier since. You can imagine how long I had to wait for legal channels to fill my needs. ;)

[@ZachAttackIsBack]

You weren't a late adopter. You were a post-mortem adopter.

[@darksidelead]

>buying movies

[@amigaamigo5307]

Me too got mine for £20 with 20 films now own about 100 films paid nothing.

[@Tricus]

I miss the floating DVD logo.

[@Tricus]

@@T.E.Pictures Just nostalgia :)

[@lewisfilby2394]

once Disney went blu-ray the war was already over

[@toxin1882]

Lewis Filby lol true .. disney owns a ton of shit

[@nicksnormal]

Carter Baker this was the last format war. Not the vhs vs beta.

[@thepoliticalstartrek]

sentury111 When you say last and you are talking about the one before the one you are talking about.

[@bluedragon9925]

The PS3 having a Blu-Ray drive built in (while the Xbox 360 only had a regular DVD drive and required you to buy a separate add-on to play HD-DVDs) definitely helped as well. For most consumers, convenience always wins when it comes to home video formats. That's why VHS won over Betamax and why Laserdisc was only popular enough to have a small niche market share before being completely phased out by DVD.

[@trenzinhodaalegria8012]

Not to mention Blu-Ray is slightly better with a higher data density than HDDVD. Blu-Ray nowadays serves as a great optical backup standard for corporations. Nowadays consumers want everything from the cloud and no more physical media at home. But the corporations that maintain the clouds do need physical storage and HDDs are not exactly the most reliable. Optical Discs are right now the most used long-term storage in the world, HDDs are used in cache servers to help deliver the data to consumers but the permanent data is usually stored either in optical discs or tapes. Such tapes have a lifespan of 25 years and the archival grade optical discs usually have a lifespan of 60 years. There is however the M-Disc which lasts for centuries (1000 years) but it's still a very expensive type of disc.

[@brickman409]

Bill Gates wasn't wrong, you know. Playing Blu-ray movies on PC is still a big pain in the ass and software on Blu-ray is practically non existent. I guess you could say that the decline of physical media is more to blame for that, but I'd say that Blu-ray is to blame for the decline of physical media on PC.

[@retrosoul8770]

What is it about blue ray that makes it incompatible with pcs?

[@alaskanhybridgaming]

Retro Soul windows 10 will not read blu-ray without extra software.

[@RobertK1993]

brickman409 Bill was being bitter that Sony format was better and won.

[@RobertK1993]

alaskanhybrid Microsoft being sore losers.

[@luxembourger]

@@RobertK1993 I only still use Microsoft Windows in the Office. But that is still a huge market.

[@brentr9161]

It's also worth noting that the PS3 cost the same as a regular blue ray or HD DVD player at launch. I have a feeling Sony did this to encourage more ps3 adoption. Why get a regular player when you can grab a high end gaming console for the same price?

[@jesuszamora6949]

Brent R Naw, bro, the BD was VERY new tech, and thus pricey. Sony wouldn't have charged $600 for the PS3 if they could have gone cheaper, and they'd feel it in the coming years as they struggled to bring the PS3 back from the 360's shadow. They essentially sacrificed the 7th generation of gaming for a stake in the home movie hardware market.

[@pavy415]

Low end gaming system

[@KylesDigitalLab]

They did this with the PS2 also.

[@blacbraun]

Just like now an Xbox one S costs little more (or the same) as an Ultra HD Player

[@blacbraun]

@@KylesDigitalLab PS2 only played DVD's not Blu Ray

[@SwiftyStardust]

I didn't even know HD-DVD was a thing until years after the format war ended. That's how badly it tanked.

[@Fireglo]

Even worse there was even a HD VHS XD

[@mattwolf7698]

Same goes for me, once I rented some older DVD that had a HD-DVD commerical on it, that was literally the only commerical I ever for it that I can remember at least.

[@joseherrera8489]

@Equestrian Idiot: I think you're just too young to remember. Most regular people back then didn't even know either of these formats existed. HDTVs still weren't that widespread. A 15" LCD was still around $500.

[@coydog7902]

DVHS aka D-THEATER

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

I knew about it because I read a lot of tech and gaming magazines so I "witnessed" the format wars while in the real world nobody was buying or selling hd dvd anywhere. Pretty much the only mention to hddvd I heard on mainstream media was a joke in Tropic Thunder.

[@KatamoriENG]

Almost a billion dollars?!?! Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn that must have been harsh.

[@ScooterinAB]

I know, right? Can you imagine the corporate seppuku the person responsible for that decision had to make. "Sorry guys. We backed the wrong horse, and it kinda sort cost us a billion dollars."

[@jahjoeka]

They could just write it off their taxes.

[@Thebossstage1]

@@stoneold Nah Blu ray still exists, movies are still coming out for it.

[@Thebossstage1]

@Banana Pie You don't technically own digital copies

[@markofexcellence5209]

*YOURE FIRED*

[@DannyCD]

VHS was *_far_* from being 480p

[@martineyles]

Danny C. Although one of the unpopular tape formats after DVD and before this format war was D-VHS (also branded D-Theatre for movie releases), fully capable of 1080i high definition.

[@emmittmorgans8076]

Yes, this is obviously not what the video is referring to. The word "analog" was used, whereas D-VHS used digital encoding on VHS tape for its content. In any case, 480p is not a format available on a VHS tape in its native formatting.

[@paianis]

VHS was 480/576i with reduced horizontal resolution.

[@Fireglo]

Depends on how old the tape is.

[@user-ny5vp9be8v]

Paianni No, 240p. S VHS is 480i.

[@drone_better7757]

2:56 'The blu-ray association disregarded the suggestion, and negotiations came to a close.' 'The negotiations were short.'

[@thenorgalofthehills5688]

One funny thing is that toshiba was the first to introduce internet features to HD Discs. They introduced web features to their HD DVDs where you could download new features and play games, and I think this was the only time I could think of that Blu Ray jumped on the Bandwagon and took advantage of their win, cause they introduced BD Live about a year after HD DVD's abandonment, and it worked pretty much exactly how the HD DVD web features worked xD

[@Yatukih_001]

Ok Creepenator!!

[@Browningate]

It was all for nothing though. None of those features work anymore. I tried.

[@peterp2626]

Sony was like "We already lost one format war with our Betamax, you can bet your ass we're not gonna lose another one."

[@DennisTamayo]

As of today, Ultra HD Blu-ray is the new generation of home entertainent.

[@jemeredith]

The ps3 was still cheaper than most stand-alone Blu-ray players back then

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

But the REAL winner is...DVD. Not HD-DVD, just DVD. They're still going strong and still popular, just like VHS was for decades after its time. And the day DVDs completely disappear is the same time Blu-Rays disappear.

[@martineyles]

Damian Freeman It's frustrating to see supermarkets and other physical stores still stocking more DVD titles than Bluray titles. Also frustrating to see Parks and Recreation only available on DVD, when it was produced in 1080i, making it ideal for a Bluray release.

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

I disagree. DVD is simply more popular and much more easily accessible to people. I wouldn't have it any other way, myself.

[@fargeeks]

my DVD drive keeps wobbling my disks and turns out the center plastic spindle is loose enough to be easily pull out from the motor shaft

[@bobtom1495]

Pretty much...and if you need to save some money...it's still a cheaper option to buy a DVD than a blu-ray..not only to mention some place where I go, it doesn't even support blu-ray and only regular DVD...

[@RobertK1993]

4k Ultra HD Blu ray is here.

[@raney150]

If the Xbox 360 used HD DVDs instead of DVDs, things might have been different.

[@Jorge-E]

Yes, HD DVD was a very good format, if Microsoft had chosen, games like Metal Gear Solid 4 would have been released on the 360...

[@halo3odst]

That is a pipe dream, the hardware specs of the xbox 360 were finalized a few years before HD-DVD was introduced, and it would only serve to make the system more expensive while still using the inferior format.

[@AldoAraujo85]

@@RouteRoad I'm pretty sure he meant as in Xbox 360 GAMES themselves using HD-DVD

[@Dash120z]

It's kinda crazy that the 360 uses regular DVD's for it's optical media..

[@bengardner2363]

I still see DVDs in stores. More so than blu ray. How come?

[@kirby1fan]

old biggots who refuse to upgrade...also it is cheap to still make normal dvds still and compatibility is phenomenal, so why not.

[@CoWinkKeyDinkInc]

The real answer is that people usually want to spend little money as possible, and when you consider that companies still have the balls to charge more for HD when Blu-Rays have become just as cheap to produce as DVDs have, it's no surprise that people are still interested in DVDs.

[@steeltalon8194]

Cause most of ppl that still use optical media to watch films only have a computer with common DVD drive & nothing else so demand for DVDs is higher. Rest of us already switched to streaming services like Netflix & HBO GO (& even KZbin). Days of optical media are numbered.

[@ryansamarakoon8268]

DvD and Hd DVD are different

[@ej_tech]

Many computers (at least for the ones that still feature one) have a DVD drive. Also DVD players are cheap. Like $30 cheap.

[@pennyandrews3292]

I basically refused to get involved in the format war and stuck to DVDs. Honestly, having grown up on VHS tapes, they still seem like a huge improvement. By the time the war was over, streaming was already becoming popular. I only have one Blu-Ray disc that I got last year, because I wanted to watch a movie that I couldn't legally stream from anywhere.

[@steeltalon8194]

Same here, went from DVDs straight to online streaming. BluRay players didn't ever became prevalent in computers. Even my just 2yr old high performance laptop only have DVD RW player. Guess it is simply not needed anymore. Some PCs today come out completely without optical drives!

[@ShinyElGhosteo]

not sure if either of you still buy DVDs but when played in an actual DVD player connected to a TV they still aren't that bad. Idk if it's the DVD player or the TV but these newer DVDs look better than they used to.

[@dguy0386]

my family stuck to DVDs and VHS tapes at the time, though we bought our first Blu-Ray player in 2017 and use them fairly regularly now along side DVD, VHS and streaming services

[@SoftwareAgentsTV]

I think the PS3 supporting Blu-Ray was a major leg up the format had over HD.

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

Actually... VHS counts more as 240p (360p maximum) if converted to digital resolution. VHS is never 480p Maybe S-VHS or D-VHS (which are both also 576p). And DVD too can be both 480p and 576p.

[@jamesslick4790]

I had wished that HD-DVD had won out JUST to keep the nomenclature simple, LOL!

[@IraQNid]

There was also a push to include a SD DVD title on one side of a disc and then the High Definition version on the flip side. Marketing wise it was used to build your movie library for both formats without having to buy new discs for the same titles. When the customer was ready all they need do is buy the new playback unit.There were some efforts by manufacturers of players to make hybrid units to play both formats. But their arrival came too late to make a difference. S-VHS was closest to 480 in terms of resolution. Funny how D-VHS was a standard for use with early HD TVs.

[@Robowil]

My dad decided to wait for the format wars to be over to know what format to switch to. Obviously, it was Blu-Ray. He also was to get a PS3, but got an Xbox 360 and Blu-Ray player separately. I finally got a PS3 (well, my brother did) in 2016.

[@LordMarlle]

If he didn't get the red ring of death (and it didn't turn into a freaking hurricane of noise) your father won. A ps3 in 2016 ? What for? MGS4 xD

[@Robowil]

It did get loud over the years, but it never got the RRoD. The reason my brother got a PS3 in 2016 is because some of the games we wanted weren't on PS4, like Sonic Generations, Brutal Legend, etc.

[@paianis]

An evolution of HD-DVD eventually found a home in the PROC with the China Blue High-Definition Disc.

[@gafeht]

Interesting

[@jesuszamora6949]

It's actually kinda sad. If the two camps HAD compromised, HD optical discs would have been adopted far quicker, perhaps as fast as DVD had been adopted. Hopefully the inevitable successor is a smooth ride, because I'd hate petty differences to hold back another potentially breakthrough storage medium.

[@runabout76]

I have both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD Players and titles common to both. I find the HD-DVD are a bit nicer and they load faster.

[@halo3odst]

Maybe so, but at least my WB manufactured blu rays work.

[@nrg16108]

@@halo3odst we have a stack of Big name HdDvds that wont load-just coasters.

[@grzegorzkamosinski2756]

HD-DVD it was a better medium for 1080p movies.

[@Mariofans-gn1lu]

it the same shit as 1080p bluray so 1080p bluray is better

[@martinkunev9911]

"the thinner the wavelength" It's shorter, not thinner.

[@AntagonistChan]

My main memory of HD DVD was from 2008, when I saw an ad for the home video release of the 2007 Transformers movie, which mentioned that it was available on DVD and HD DVD. That's the only real memory I have of HD DVD. Also, it doesn't remotely surprise me that the PS3 thing had a say in that. I remember that my parents bought a PS3 specifically because it could play blu-rays.

[@HaydenX]

I backed HD-DVD because it was cheaper and inferior. I figured the war would go the same way that the VHS vs Beta and Vinyl vs Reel to Reel went. Every time, the inferior, but cheaper, tech won out. BluRay was basically a complete shock to me. I would have been happily surprised to see the technically better format win...except I bought an HD-DVD player. I was a bit sore about this at the time...because I had done my homework and a lot of research...only to be completely wrong and lose like $300 on my player + discs that were worthless just a year and a half or so later. At least when I bought my Vita, I considered it to be a real risk...

[@RedfernModelRailway]

This is really well produced!

[@demonpride1975]

am i the only one that still likes hd-dvd movies. i have a large collection of them, and honestly i wouldn't get rid of them for anything.

[@bsperoz]

5:50 Don't forget 4K Blu-Rays require a 4K BLU RAY PLAYER. 4K Blu rays wo t play on a normal Bluray player.

[@sammexp]

And a 4k tv too, which makes this technology pretty expensive and useless

[@Browningate]

0:50 - Hold on there. VHS is most definitely *not* 480p. It's barely even 480i!

[@fortitude9932]

At end..what bluray works on DVD player

[@DarkDiripti]

As far as I remember it, when HD-DVD had only 20gb capacity, blue-Ray already had 50... So that may have been a major reason as well

[@CVerse]

Y'all remember that regular show episode where they literally turned the format wars into a real story

[@andrewgwilliam4831]

Seems to be a common myth with Americans that widescreen requires a significant technological change to be introduced, such as digital TV or Blu-ray. DVDs can store anamorphic widescreen video in 16:9 format. It's not HD, but that's a different issue.

[@GScottChaosnaut]

I really loved the features on HD-DVD. They would enable you to remix movies or do all sorts of picture-in-picture features due to every player having multiple decoders in them.

[@dunebasher1971]

VHS was *not* 480p, it was 480i (576i in PAL countries) - it never supported progressive video. If you want to reflect the actual number of lines of resolution it produced, it was nearer 240i.

[@christophercoates9]

You forgot to mention that Blu Ray is still region locked and HD DVD was not. That would have hampered the iron grip studios have in what they release, when and how. That was a big factor as well.

[@thatguyontheright1]

The majority of films in my BD collection have no such region locking...aside from Disney. It's up to the publisher.

[@christophercoates9]

TGOTR - all of mine are region locked to A or region 1 and they are all different studios from Disney (they are region locked to A,B,C) to Lionsgate to 20th Century Fox. The only ones that are not in my BD collection it seems is Paramount, Well Go USA and Warner Bros.

[@christophercoates9]

Raul Zavala no one would be pirating movies with an HD DVD player. It's region free which means I could buy movies that were legally made in France and watch them over here. No one ever even mentioned pirating.

[@NicklasZandeVGCP2001]

Blu Rays are region free.

[@simo9815]

Hey, may I ask a question? What do you use for downloading videos? Regards, some random dude on the web

[@Koospa]

I heard that the porn industry choosing blurays also had a play in this

[@Kara_Kay_Eschel]

Same for VHS.

[@paianis]

The porn industry actually chose HD-DVD.

[@kingjames4886]

I'd believe it...

[@atomicdancer]

I heard that the porn industry backed Donald Trump over Hilary Clinton, and that's why he won the US presidency.

[@SAM-ru4vx]

ever watch porn in 2K?

VHS stores 240i video, the other tape formats of the time such as Beta and HDCAM were studio formats for internal editing/production. One thing that is never mentioned in these "Blu-ray vs HD DVD" videos is that the porn industry (Yeah, the freaking porn industry) was mainly the reason for the failure of HD DVD.

[@paianis]

VHS did 480i/576i with reduced horizontal resolution.

[@kirby1fan]

the porn industry went with hddvd not bluray. hddvd had cheaper royalties so they went with them.

But only S-VHS, that never took off

[@41-Haiku]

Back when both of these formats were first available, I predicted that people would look back on this time as a war between HD DVD and Blu Ray. I got pooh-pooh'd, and yet here we are. I feel validated.

[@thatguyontheright1]

There were other commercial HD formats before HD-DVD and Blu-ray but they were enormously expensive. HD-DVD and Blu-ray were the first affordable HD formats.

[@martineyles]

TGOTR one of those HD formats was actually VHS! There's a video by Techmoan about it.

[@thatguyontheright1]

Another was Hi-Vision, which was HD video on a laserdisc.

[@silvervalleystudios2486]

I have about 40 HD DVDs. Are they collectable????

[@gedaman]

I've always been curious about what an HD-DVD movie looks like compared to a BD movie. Is the picture quality better?

[@dericjames2018]

gedaman it's the same.

[@calvinkulit]

Deric James They aren’t the same resolution. HD DVD: 720p BD: 1080p

[@erikmarkuskannike7526]

Your videos are really good, interesting that you have this few subscribers!

[@petermc7098]

Nice Format, layout and Style, Have a Happy New Year and I am looking forward to some more of your new Content! Cheers Peter Mc :)

[@carlinrackley8547]

It certainly doesn't help the DVDs that they put more bonus features such as deleted scenes, backstories about the making of the film and interviews with the actors or producers on the Blu-Ray and leaving it out of the DVD edition. So if you want more than just the movie, you'd go for the Blu-Ray, however if you're happy with just having the movie with no bonus features, well the DVD edition IS cheaper....

[@fargeeks]

Carlin Rackley you forgot to mention DVD ROM content

[@LILGHETTI]

Now, 4K blu-ray is crispy and very sharp on certain movies like Blade Runner, Tenet, Alien! HD DVD was like Wii U, it was confusing to some People! Now 4k scanned blu-rays have better quality than HD DVDs!

[@ToolCraze]

Towards the middle of the video you mentioned Blu-ray had more/ better features than hd dvd but you didn't mention them. You didn't mention that bluray had nearly double the storage space when both disc formats came out. Another thing to point out was that Microsoft's video file format was more efficient than the one Blu-ray used.

[@thepoliticalstartrek]

Little known fact MS developed the HD DVD interfaces. The HD DVD actually had more interactive than Blu Ray. Then quietly the interfaces were ported to Blu Ray. Java was finally available in Blu Ray movies shortly after HD DVD died. Blu sacrifice durability for storage.

[@falloutnewvegasboy]

As the 90s came to an end? Where were you living. It wasn't until the late 2000s when they even started becoming normal in every household

[@ultraboombean]

Yeah I remember DVDs taking a while to be phased out. I think I was at least in 4th or 5th grade and that was like...2002 or so. But I also didn't really have the internet til the early to mid 2000s in my house either.

[@renegadejuggalo]

They did have HDTV's back then, but they were ridiculously expensive. I remember when my dad bought his first HDTV back in mid 2000. He paid about 4000$ for it.

[@princevalium25]

I work at a local music store that also sells books and dvds. We also purchase used dvds, cds, books and video games from customers. Recently a customer came in wanting to sell and HD DVD Matrix box set. Keep in mind I was born in 1999 and had never heard of HD DVD. In the end, I bought the box set only for my boss to get frustrated and explain Blu Ray vs HD DVD and how HD DVD was never much of a big thing to me. I think I made her feel pretty old at 25.

[@philmzbyphred]

5:03 the thing that annoys me about Disney is the fact they brand Disney Blu Ray as if it owned that format.

[@NikoKourouklis]

In China, HD DVD continues to be produced for those thin plastic sleeves where those unlicensed movies come in. As far as I know, the only laptops that came with HD DVD were the Acer Aspire 9800/9920g series, Toshiba Qosmio G30 series, and the Toshiba Satellite x200 series.

[@Rob2068]

Blue Ray: Revenge of Betamax

[@alphacuremother1019]

what were the blue discs the PlayStation 2 used that broke older ps2's?

[@PonderingGhost]

jay can Those were called PlayStation Blue Discs which were CD-Rom rather than DVD-Rom.

[@fargeeks]

yup. literally just a game with only 700MBs on it so either the game looked great but less content, or crappy graphics with a little more content the games with a CD format was labeled as Greatest Hits

[@charlescampuz5812]

fargeeks Or the game was small enough to fit on the cheaper CD format? You know very few games actually take up the entire storage capacity of discs, right?

[@BDreGaming]

Still have my hddvd player and over 20 movies. I still remember bestbuy selling both formats

[@airborne2876]

I remember going to blockbuster as a kid right in the middle of the format war between HD DVD and Bluray. And I remember seeing both formats on the same wall and thinking to myself how the HD DVD looks evil because of the red case, and the Bluray looks nicer.

[@justacitizen111]

I vividly remember this war. It was quite an amusing thing to follow back in ~2005-2006.

[@saigokun]

This was a good and informative video. Thanks for posting this.

[@jprobe]

Blu-ray is now considered failed tech. It's been 13 years and DVDs still sell better. Optical is just old tech.

[@theendofit]

bill gates was not wrong. blu rays are a headach on pc and have tons of issues. the drm is nuts.

[@My7t]

theendofit I don’t think so... blue ray works smoothly on windows 10

[@Psythik]

VHS was 480i, not 480p. Actually, it was worse than that since color was shown at a lower resolution than black and white.

[@cheekster777]

I chose HD-DVD over BluRay at launch and felt it was a better format. Main two reasons it won this format war was the inclusion in PS3's and Di$ney backing it. One of the biggest negatives about BluRay originally was that not all features on a disc were accessible on all players. Sometimes you had to wait for an update or even upgrade your machine if it was very old and no longer supported. No such problem with HD-DVD players. The superior format doesn't always win!

[@qasimmir7117]

But Blu-ray was superior. It had more storage capacity, durability, and none of those initial problems are a thing now.

[@ErixsonGaming]

Excuse me, 480i is standard definition. 480p is enhanced definition.

[@MeTaLdUdE02]

I remember when HD DVD was a thing. I used to see the advertisements. Ironically enough, I say the advertisements in... DVDs xD It was the greatest thing ever. They would have a "before and after" section of the commercial during the previews on the DVD. And me and my father both made jokes about it. Trying to show standard DVD quality compared to HD DVD quality.... on a DVD. Needless to say, there was no difference. Granted, it's possible it might've been made for an HD DVD but the company in charge just put the advertisements on both mediums. But it was still funny as hell. Lol

[@kerrygligorovic9758]

To be honest I still prefer the HD DVD over Blu-Ray because while it's true that Blu-Ray improved on the colours than the normal DVD but it can't be played on a normal DVD Player. Beside some of us liked myself don't have Blu-Ray DVD player so they're useless to me that's why I stick with normal HD DVD

[@nispelsm]

In the beginning, HD-DVD had a big advantage over Blu-Ray, because HD-DVD discs were designed to contain both the normal DVD format and the HD format on the same disc. To put it simply, HD-DVDs would play in all existing DVD players. This meant you could wait to upgrade your TV and player, without having to re-buy all your movies later. However, the thing that won over the studios was the better DRM offered by Blu-Ray, which was a major plus for studios facing the threat of mass piracy of DVDs at the time.

[@KangJangkrik]

Why I'm watching this?? I even don't have any optical disk player.. including my current laptop

[@GlobalGaming101]

Athaariq Ardiansyah probably because it's interesting:)

[@miguelzavaleta1911]

Athaariq Ardiansyah I honestly cannot recall when was the last time I used optical media myself. Who even buys or rents movies in physical format anymore when there's KZbin and Amazon?

[@steven834631]

Miguel Zavaleta I do. I just returned a rental DVD not one hour ago, Bela Tarr's "Family Nest". Try finding that on Netflix or any other digital service.

[@koloth5139]

I still buy Blu-rays of movies I want in my collection. It is nice not to have to rely on the internet for all of my entertainment. The Blu-ray player in my bedroom isn't wireless and I don't feel like running a cable in there. And occasionally the network goes down. Plus the streaming services don't have everything.

[@KangJangkrik]

John McDonald don't have everything like what?

[@alexanderchase7362]

What is the music in the background called?

[@thepoliticalstartrek]

480p is EDTV. Standard definition is 480i.

[@KhasrouhRecords]

i think blu-ray won because of the ps3 and Bigger Sized Data

[@BenJonesVideographer]

Um HDCAM was a tape format used in early HD Broadcast and cine cameras. It was far from a consumer tape.

[@negirno]

Blu-Ray may have won against HD-DVD but lost to streaming. You just can't beat the convenience of watching KZbin, Netflix and others from any device you own and without heaps of plastic taking shelf space. Yeah, movie buffs and audiophiles still use physical media, but that's about it.

[@mrbing9279]

and now Netflix is killing itself and we all know how youtube is doing...

[@BleedForTheWorld]

And both Blu-Ray and streaming will always lose to piracy. You cannot stop progress.

[@SomeHarbourBastard]

Yeah, because we can safely say we own the movie/show. We don't have to worry about the provider pulling it later on. If you haven't heard, Disney is pulling all their films, including Touchstone, Marvel and "Star Wars" from Netflix.

[@kirby1fan]

you do get a higher bitrate on physical media than you would through streaming. It will still look great, but the bluray will look better. Also, places like here in australia, internet is crap and can barely watch 720p streams let alone 1080 or 4k. Best solution, rip the blurays and stick them on a massive nas drive and watch it on a computer media center; no "heaps of plastic", high bitrate, no internet needed, can watch the movie in multiple locations

[@aolson1111]

Negirno They didn't win, they co-exist.

[@vinnytheplayer5500]

Anyone thought of regular show

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

Now, it appears that the war is between digital streaming vs blu-ray.

[@jeremiahglover7562]

I kinda think that branding played a role on the consumer end. Blu-ray sounds way cooler that HD DVD.

[@donstarlancer]

Also I think one simple thing no one mentions is the names. HD-DVD was just a stupid name for the new format that did not make it clear to random consumers that it was actually a different media.

[@AllieRX]

DVD was 480i. VHS was 240p. 480p was enhanced definition. Neither formats were capable of EDTV.

[@The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane]

I remember the format war very well. At the time, I graduated from middle school and the new High Definition home video formats made their debut. Growing up with VHS and DVD, I look at the HD DVD and Blu-ray and I was on the HD DVD side (I later bought the HD DVD drive for Xbox 360) because I thought HD DVD is better. Sadly, Blu-ray won despite I bought some HD DVD films from 2007-2016 (Goodfellas, Unforgiven, The Fast and the Furious, Transformers (2007), 300, Batman Begins, Darkman, just to name a few). However, I did bought a PlayStation 3 (which does play Blu-rays) in 2010 and later a PlayStation 4 in 2015. My uncle gave me his Blu-ray/DVD Home Theatre System in the Summer of 2017. Since then, I started buying Blu-ray films (beginning with The Thin Red Line on Christmas Day 2016).

[@kamikazilucas]

what bluray disc can be played on a dvd player

[@scottlarson1548]

VHS was 480p? Damn, I thought those things were interlaced NTSC or PAL.

[@ludicer122]

What is the background music?

[@anthonyshort7225]

I would like to point out that DVD's are 480i.

[@RetroGamerBB]

I make backups of my blu rays into hd dvd format, for no good reason. dvd dl works fine. i made a version of dead pool in hd dvd, again no good reason to do so, just because i guess.

[@zebunker]

I'd argue that without HDDVD telling people that these are HD videos now then neither would catch on.

[@KurtBob]

RIP. I worked at best buy during this war. I personally stood behind HDDVD merely because of the titles that I was interested in at that time, and I had an xBox360 with the HDDVD attachment!!!!!!

[@ElectoneGuy]

I still watch and enjoy my HD-DVDs.

[@Reloaded2111]

Funny, digital downloads have been hurting BOTH Blu-ray and HD-DVD market over the past few years, and both of these formats have been dying a slow death. I'd say that H.264 has been the king these days.

[@jwproductions5070]

I these random videos in my Recommended section, click on it and get addicted (maybe exaggerating) to this channel.

[@johnm2012]

I was hoping to have the differences between the two formats explained, as Techmoan or Technology Connections would have done.

[@METALMAN4Wii]

Now 4K Digital will replace physical disk, anyone else miss the Video store?

[@otaking3582]

Sony really wasn't losing any money by having a Blu-ray player built-in to PS3's. The game's for the system were all on Blu-ray discs already, so all they needed was a simple program to make movies work on it.

[@paraslamsong]

Loved the content what's that ending music??

[@d00mch1ld]

Hmmmm could you really say Blu-Ray has won? I get all my movies via streaming. I have never purchased a Blu-Ray movie. It may have beaten HD DVD but I think online content is the way to go.

[@rrrglynn]

Viktor Ko Yep Apple TV came out in 2007. You could have bought any movie you wanted without leaving your house. Unless you had a terrible internet connection that was the best way to go.

[@haripn7568]

please make a video about Toshiba the history of the company history of their computer division and Where are they now

[@bsperoz]

6:00 Double sided OR double-layer, right?