Former Chinese senior colonel: War in Ukraine 'has nothing to do with China' | DW Interview

Former Chinese Senior Military Colonel Zhou Bo told DW's Richard Walker at this year's MSC that although the war in Ukraine was "not in China's interest," it also was not an issue Beijing could solve. "War in the heart of Europe has nothing to do with China," he said. "This war is not in China's interest. If it would stop immediately, we would be very happy." Zhou added that it was wrong for Western politicians to blame Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion of Ukraine, saying that Russia "took this action because of NATO expansion and Russian leaders have been talking about this since the Soviet time." He also said that since China and Russia share a long border, it was in both countries' interests to ensure they had a "good and stable" relationship.
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[@jkuang]

This is a great reporter. He raised questions and did not disrupt the interviewee and waited for the response before asking a follow up question. Why can't reporters all do it? Those so-called reporters seem to just raise questions for the sake of making a posture.

[@nikhilgoyal007]

agree!

[@Grrptt]

Excellent interview. These seem like two adults capable of a serious earnest talk.

[@wadeboggs5163]

He needs/deserves a significant increase in exposure.

[@woutervanwijk4369]

Very true

[@sexynelson100]

good point

[@The70s80scollection]

This has to be one of the best level-playing field interviews I've seen, both interviewer and interviewee, have precise questions and answers with deep knowledge of the subject matter, and what a treat to see no interruptions, cutting off in mid-sentence, changing the subject etc, I get the feeling both enjoyed this interview as much as we enjoyed watching it.

[@ahumarud]

Never mind USSR or Russia created the fear in its neighbors of spies and compromised officials... the interview was shallow at best.

[@Nanno00]

I was about to say very similar but you said it better than I would have.

[@Heshem_Joel]

DW news.

[@pompeo9116]

America is the only country which want to start the war and keep the war in Europe! Without war America will go bankrupt! Sadly European politicians and major medias never talk about it and challenge it! I am just wondering if Europe is another state of America????

[@razorrabbit2789]

One more thing. Russian war has much to do with China. Without China's backing Russians never ever had begun that.

[@michaelmarchanda]

It's nice to see an "old-fashioned" interview that follows diplomatic rules. No aggressive wolf warrior muscle flexing on the one hand, no aggressive rhetoric on the other. Diplomacy is not easy and rarely direct. But you can learn from both sides of a respectful interview if you listen to it critically and with distance.

[@thisiskevin1000]

Diversity of perspectives, not groupthinks

[@DougWolfe]

I’m pleasantly surprised at the wildly informative and clear interview. The Chinese gentleman makes a good statesman for his country and represents it well.

[@mikec3205]

Land of earth was created 4.5 BILLION years ago. It was Not created by any humans. Since humans did Not create land, therefore, humans has No right to murder others over land. This is something that Russia and China needs to understand when it comes to the word soverengty. That these communists continue to use this word over and over again to justify murder. Since no one created land on earth, no one has the right to murder over it.

[@filmawayvlad]

Indeed

[@sensitivedogs]

There is too much diplomacy. China does not follow protocols, probably most don't anywhere in the world but we are in a serious crisis with them and asking diplomatic questions and getting diplomatic answers is a game of underhanded gibbirish. What are we learning? I learn that they don't want to take responsibility or admit anything. Not if it puts them in a vulnerable situation and it's understandable. But since they have proved over and over again blatant dishonesty.

[@sujitroy627]

Zhou Bo. I have never seen such an outspoken representative from China. Loud & Clear & Precise!

[@federiconie]

Why people always say "Never seen", because the normal voices were blocked. The daily conversation at the street corner will never be shown to the west, those are defined as Chinese threats.

[@tablespoon1277]

never seen such an outspoken representative from US ( in mandarin )

[@mottscottison6943]

there are plenty. it's just that you by chance got exposed to one that somehow is well-spoken in English. China wouldn't be where they are without exceptional men and women.

[@icomefromcanadia2783]

This is one of the best interviews I've seen in years. Open and honest, direct but respectful, and no sense of either side fighting for time or position.

[@joeis18]

I agree. This is good to go. I mean, I agree and understand why he says what he says.

[@teabag1680]

This man is a excellent speaker!!! This interview should be distributed more widely

[@williamhancock8065]

Total double talk from China. China is hedging its bets because it wants to invade Taiwan. Mainland China has NEVER had control of Formosa. Taiwan has never been part of China. This is not about reunification. How can you reunify something that was never united? Totalitarian states like China and Russia cannot tolerate liberal democracies living in freedom and prosperity nearby as it might give their own citizens ideas.

[@williamhancock8065]

@@teabag1680 It is all double talk. He sounds reasonable but he is still talking the aggressive Chinese rhetoric. You can't reunify something that was never united. China NEVER controlled the island of Formosa where Taiwan is located. Totalitarian countries simply don't tolerate successful democratic neighbors living in peace and prosperity. It gives their own citizens ideas about how much better their lives would be if not ruled by corrupt tyrants.

[@aliancemd]

“Open and honest” - he clearly lies when he claims it’s not in their interest while on the other end they just increased business with Russia, started investing in new pipelines and are supplying critical components for Russian military equipment

[@silys5253]

Man. This man is 200IQ. The journalist asked some questions that were basically hidden accusations but he calmly unfolded the questions and replied objectively.

[@simonyoung6815]

Or he was ready with answers to questions he was expecting to hear and guided what was asked to those prepared responses.

[@simonyoung6815]

BTW, i wasn't trying to suggest he's not a VERY intelligent man (far surpassing myself), only that I think he could be expected to know these questions were coming.

[@andrewdussault2315]

He's a good politician defending the political stance he was told to defend. He does a good job explaining and defending it in the face of western criticism, while also laying out some of his own perspective and analysis of the situation.

[@simonyoung6815]

@dashi qiang Definitely he's an impressive man with a deft mind. Not to be difficult and contradictory, but none of those questions seemed surprising to me given current events and while I don't know Chinese protocol, if he's speaking as a representative of China, he was possibly even briefed.

[@simonyoung6815]

@dashi qiang Honestly I was surprised he referred to it as a "war". I thought the official Chinese stance was maintaining that it was a "special military operation".

[@gentoffire]

As a Chinese man, Mr Zhou Bo articulates our way of thinking and considerations perfectly.

[@gentoffire]

​@@jw9651 Interested? Interested in war and blood? No thanks. This is anglo saxon thinking, not Chinese. We are civilised people believe in reasoning and logic. We only need to fend off the intruders and get on with our lives. And to you, we have a saying goes: Do unto others, do not impose on others.

[@joshisnot11]

⁠@@gentoffireThere will be massive amounts of bloodshed when it comes to Taiwan. I’m curious how China will “do, rather than impose” when invading and absorbing Taiwan. I’m sure there are some mental gymnastics involved in explaining why Taiwan isn’t sovereign land while Ukraine is. To be clear, I’m not claiming you personally think this. I’m talking about the Chinese government’s official stance on Taiwan.

[@gentoffire]

@@joshisnot11 You can find the official stand clearly stated on all the Gov website.

[@Zac0827]

Rest of the world are sick and tired of US toxicity. Let this be clear.

[@terremoto6663]

No sensationalism, just mutual respect, clear questions, clear answers. This is an awesome interview

[@vincentvangogh8092]

he is being dishonest though Ukraine has never had a positive history with Russia this is nothing new

[@acchaladka]

This is the best exposition of the Chinese government's view on these topics which I've seen in years. Thank you DW, excellent work.

[@goldbug3400]

so true. I am completely amazed by the interview

[@fromatlantis]

read the history and learn not trust to china

[@90iatros]

Would have liked a question about the South China Sea and an other one about Tibet.

[@dancerinmaya6813]

He does not necessarily represent the Chinese government, he is not the spokes person of CN, mind you. So it's not necessarily CN gov official stance--his comment on the possible result of war is purely his own.

[@islandwills2778]

noooo not really, once you read the very first sentence its pretty clear that no this has no representation at all of what china leadership is thinking "FORMER chinese colonel" the key word being former. I will never understand why people do not seem to understand that when you drag out former leaders they have no representation at all of what the current thoughts are. Could you imagine interviewing president trump about the current direction that the usa government is going? Of course he will have a radically different take than current leadership. You can NEVER accept words on policy from ousted leadership as being of any particular value. Especially in political matters.

[@kathryn1402]

Well said Zhou Bo. Your answers should be clear enough for anyone who ask the same questions again & again.

[@tiffanyi5645]

As an American, this sounded like an incredibly reasonable conversation. I heard nothing coming from this man that sounded offensive or “evil”. He sounds like a respectful and proud Chinese man .

[@dl8935]

The attitude of the Chinese has always been very clear, which is to cease fire and stop the war and then negotiate, but the problem is that the United States would rather use taxpayers’ money to continue to support Ukraine’s war than to use the tax money to improve the precarious economy of the United States and the difficult life of American people.

[@fmtoussant]

as an american it is eerily strange to see another american say they understand this topic. most can’t wrap their heads around the concept of nato expansion being the trigger for the war, even though they know about Gitmo and Cuban Missile Crisis

[@gregs3301]

Don't ever forget what Xi had to do to his political opponents to become a new Mao. Posibly half of them dissapperead from this world. How can you forget "0 covid" policy when people been starved to death becasue couldn't go out to get food. I will never forget Tienanmen's student massacre. The guy is a diplomat talking rounded and well chosen words. Basically he expressed Chinese strategy "a tiger on the hill watching two elephants fighting". In reality it's Sun Tzu teaching they want to encircle US so the the military confrontation won't make any sense. Imagine if China convince Putin to satlle and could guarantee a peace with Ukriane. They would gain a lot of control in Europe and the most european powers would be very happy. China plays the long game so that you'll miss the moment when you realize you lost. Therfore I guess US is provokative as long as they have military superiority over China.

[@nohandler1493]

@@dl8935 Well US govt. knows it is a the largest global consumer. SO, it is waging war to make profit out of it. Beside American people love war. American media shows and represent everything in such a way as if China and Russia are ready to invade USA at any moment.

[@jfm14]

​@@dl8935 The West actually put intense pressure on Ukraine to negotiate and give up territory back in the mid-'10s when Ukraine would've preferred not to. The US government is not the driving force behind this war. Neither is the military-industrial complex, although they're happy to take advantage of the situation to boost sales and rake in gobs of money. The US isn't the center of the geopolitical Universe, believe or not. Far from it. Also, the US is not neglecting its people because it wants to support Ukraine. It has plenty of money to do both and would have even more if it decided to actually tax all of its citizens. Unfortunately, there isn't sufficient political will to do this (for a number of reasons, most of them involving campaign finance) nor is there to invest in and improve the lives of ordinary citizens. Every attempt is blocked.

[@rickyal9810]

Master class in interviewing. This should be shown in Journalism classes. Well done Richard Walker.

[@dannyboy8850]

This Chinese colonel is very sharp. Excellent interview! 👍

[@BrianJRoberts]

I do long-form interviews. This was a masterclass for me. This is the kind of journalism people crave, as all are better informed as a result. Knowledgeable, gave fresh perspective, concise following-up and clarifying questions (a sign of great listening), both knowledgeable, detached yet empathetic. Didn’t sense any kind of agenda here. This is what you get when you seek mutual understanding in lieu of pushing an agenda. Excellent!

[@frank-ko6de]

😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@jingwang9245]

Exactly

[@herbertdarick7693]

Very good 👍

[@ConstructiveMinds100]

Because he is knowledgeable, wise man. Not like most politicians who are dumb these days.

[@superkikaymom6910]

Great comment as well

[@Callieforniiaa]

This was a great interview, both sides stayed calm. Both were nice and honest.

[@hatchermoney]

Brilliant. A highly-articulate representative of China presenting a clear argument about their position. We may not *like* the position, but it is wonderful to be able to hear it argued coherently and without interruption. Kudos to the interviewer - and, of course, the interviewee.

[@thisiskevin1000]

After all, this conflict is an exclusively Russia vs the West thing with Ukraine as a proxy. Something not seen since WW2 and the Cold War. Non-Western nations like China has been saying that this is not in their interests to meddle.

[@gast1981]

"A clear argument" - but refusing to say anything clear, unless its criticism of the US. It's all just meaningless babble.

[@rohitsinghyxrs]

​​​@@gast1981 you are a typical Westerner...when thing's aren't going your way then it's meaningless lol And he was very clear in serving his country's interest..it's just you don't have that much sense to figure that out. You guys are doomed

[@WXRBL666]

@@gast1981 I think you just didn't hear the answer you want to hear.

[@JohnDoe-uy3pb]

@@gast1981 This how politics work, if you watch some of our own politicians' interviews they'll be strikingly similar if not worse. Because we are the most powerful nation on Earth we do not need to be careful of our wordage, but you could understand how for countries like China not answering the question directly is sometimes beneficial.

[@antr7493]

Impressive. He said all that with a straight face.

[@handler007]

he smoked that shet

[@vincentchen1480]

As a Chinese, I feel sorry to the world especially to the Ukrainian that we have such officials. I feel embarrassed to the doubt standards of them.

[@paulsteaven]

PLA officers were trained to be like that.

[@shenpanda3277]

@@vincentchen1480 as a Chinese I feel embarrass to you

[@China_Secret_Police]

@@vincentchen1480 It's important for 华人 to be the most vocal advocates against the CCP.

[@justenoughtobedangerous8596]

An excellent interview by both the reporter and the Chinese delegate. It was very informative, balanced, respectful and gave the Chinese point of view rationally and logically. Lets hope that more senior figures from all sides can have a similar approach.

[@gameplayonlynovoiceovers]

I feel like this is how news used to be before social media. It's so much more informative, and gives lots of food for thought, without trying to trigger the viewers. Excellent delivery of information, valuable perspective. True professionals.

[@Josecarlos-ku2cu]

Really! Logical! What is logical with invading another country. Isn't that the reason we have a U.N. to deal with disputes. China illegally claimed the sea and islands (9-dash line) in the South China sea (also called the West Philippine Sea) even after being ruled illegal by The Hague world tribunal court. They are sympathetic to Russia because they do not want to contradict themselves in claiming the South China sea and it's plan to invade Taiwan. Wake up dude!

[@bryanjackson8917]

While the caption to the video says that the name of the Chinese military officer is Zhou Bo, at the beginning of the video it sure sounded like DW's correspondent called him "Joe Bull" which was much more fitting in regards to what he had to say, cuz he was clearly full of it.

[@larzkruber822]

Much more constructive than this wolf warrior dimplomacy they are showing in recent times

[@TheSubpremeState]

NATO expansion was mentioned in first few minutes lmao please. Chinese lie more than Putin. You don't attack a country. The entire country at least over trouble that Putin instigated. The Russian s were caught in a false flag bombing in that helped Putin get elected

[@ernestobadillo1725]

In my opinion, his line of questioning is designed to answer the audience's doubts, he opens the door to meaningful information and quality content reflected on how careful he was to ask proper questions to be respectful with the interviewee and the viewers, in short, he is what a real reporter is supposed to be. Most of the interviewers are just looking for the scandal line to scale up the ratings. Great job!

[@kaboonali5466]

😂 DW is paying for positive comments, look how robotic this comment is

[@rushyscoper1651]

Interviewer job is for the viewers and not to throw soft blow to interviewed. It's not soft ball or scandal u can/should push back with reason if u can.

[@canto_v12]

@@rushyscoper1651 No. The interviewer's job is to provide useable, true information to the viewer. Your description is that of an entertainer, and that is the problem with mainstream journalism. It's attempting to be entertainment because that sells.

[@rushyscoper1651]

@@canto_v12 u get true information by not being soft. u should challenge him with good questions if his answer didn't make sense for u. if anything what u saying is an entertainment, that how all entertainment kinda interview, because they want other celeb to come to their show not fearing a lot of push back

[@canto_v12]

@@rushyscoper1651 I still think the interviewer provided good challenging questions. Not really soft at all.

[@siliconvalleystoic3791]

This man is very well educated and speaks eloquently, he also practice the art of war quite well. He doesn’t boast of their power, making the enemy feel comfortable until they are ready to strike.

[@kylejohnson6070]

Yeah, as an American, I would respect China a lot more if they just spoke freely.

[@chalkmont-ou5ks]

@@kylejohnson6070 你说到我的心中之痛了

[@kylejohnson6070]

@@chalkmont-ou5ks sorry, can’t read that. And it won’t let me translate.

[@mikeoxlong1133]

@@kylejohnson6070they’re agreeing with you

[@meng-hsuanlee8543]

@@kylejohnson6070 translation: you’re speaking the pain in my heart (“you get me”)

[@wesseldejonge4789]

Impressive this chinese colonel not only speaks and expresses in perfect english, but is well versed in understanding of present and historical geo politics.

[@jeremytine]

Spot the Chinese bot

[@jeremytine]

@@yevgeny7825 nah Chinese, there is this exceptionally generic self masturbatory style of comment that screams CCP insecurity.

[@hatmatrix4376]

dude has an MA at the London School of Economics

[@loc1k]

He's a fascist liar.

[@hatmatrix4376]

@@mark8544 not possible for a foreigner to speak without sn sccent

[@leosalas41ify]

This reporter is Top Level. The questions and follow up questions are excellent!!

[@jumambugah3946]

They're hypocrites/spies they do not question their countries politicians with such developing questions

[@user-rz8jo6pb9c]

It's because he is not a reporter hahaha

[@AG-un7dz]

Unlike any of our American reporters.

[@user-rz8jo6pb9c]

@@AG-un7dz слава Украине!

[@chris60036]

I'm not sure I agree - He should have pushed back on the NATO expansion reason for Russia attacking. Ukraine confirmed it would not join NATO and relinquished having their own nukes and they still invaded. Also - it is anyone's right to join NATO - Nations have the right to defend themselves in anyway they see fit - as long as they're not attacking another.

[@leoxing7697]

As an Asian American I really appreciate the respect the interviewer gives to our brother, often in the US journalist are rude and disrespectful to us Asians especially Chinese officials. Respect is a two way street and double standard is something we Asians in the West and in Asia find very insulting. WE can all learn, prosper and grow together as the human family, no need for war.

[@trevorhoward7169]

Fascinating interview. All the right questions put to this most level headed Chinese official who explained where the Chinese stood in relation to the war and the future relationship with the USA. Thank you.

[@manuelhernandez2017]

One of the best interviews I've ever seen. He's definitely an experienced politician, doesn't quite give out enough while answering the questions.

[@dancerinmaya6813]

He said everything, what more do you want him to say? He is not considered to have answered the questions if he didn't use the Western-sanctioned words?

[@manuelhernandez2017]

@@dancerinmaya6813 whoa, slow down, don't get your blood pressure up on account of my opinion. He answered the questions well enough if you read my comment. He could've said more about how China views the US and Russia differently other than they're next to us and the other isn't. Plenty more HE can detail since he is no longer serving as Senior Colonel. Nothing wrong with how he answered... So no reason for you to get worked up about it. Thank you, have a nice day

[@seancidy6008]

@@dancerinmaya6813 He turned the questions around.

[@Mman.]

I agree, Manuel. He was quite impressive.

[@manuelhernandez2017]

@@cyang2000ify ah you're probably right. You have a point. Because he did really well answering the questions so that probably explains a lot.

[@robertsmuggles6871]

Richard Walker conducts some of the best live TV interviews. Unlike so many MSM 'big-mouths' he does not interrupt, allowing the person to express themselves fully. Such a relief to be able to listen for a change.

[@akong0824]

Professional journalist successfully documents interviewee's lies.

[@robertsmuggles6871]

@@akong0824 When the CCP talks peace they will be re-arming Putin for sure.

[@akong0824]

@@robertsmuggles6871 As Trump said: Putin and Xi Jinping are (conjoined) twins.

[@daniel86250]

You mean you have not noticed his bias? You think his parroting western point of view is good journalism?

[@pompeo9116]

America is the only country which want to start the war and keep the war in Europe! Without war America will go bankrupt! Sadly European politicians and major medias never talk about it and challenge it! I am just wondering if Europe is another state of America????

[@bidenjoe-us9mq]

Sadly, Chinese officials have stated the same position countless times at many Foreign Ministry meetings. The difference with this interview is that the Foreign Ministry spokesperson was speaking in Mandarin, which Western media often distort or take out of context when reporting.

[@marioluigi9599]

Yeah well... learn English. This is a German news channel. They also had to learn English. If they can do it, why can't top Chinese officials do it At least this Chinese guy in this video learned decent English. But what about the Chinese president? He's so uneducated. No English, nothing. Just rhetoric. No more than that

[@estchu]

Colonel Zhou Bo is an outstanding communicater. He represents China position perfectly.

[@kelvinhosg]

He can't represent CHINA as of now he is a retired person . If you were to watch CGTN news and CCTV etc , you'll realise there are lots of ANTI USA news being said by various ministry in CHINA shockingly

[@lchappo]

Great interview respect on both sides led to a much better dialogue and understanding 👍

[@loc1k]

He's a fascist liar.

[@lchappo]

@@loc1k always best to look at people’s actions and not their words. I’ve also seen similar interviews with Putin and now look what has happened. I think overall the interview was positive and one that deescalated conflict rather than excite one. Let’s see what the peace proposal is from China before we judge.

[@networm78]

I think why many feel that this was a good interview is because it's one of the rare occasions when you hear things direct from the horse's mouth and not intentionally mistranslated or have vital information left out. Of course you'd also require a genuinely respectful journalist to pull it off.

[@augustinwu7349]

thank you for airing the whole unedited interview and asking the direct and tough questions

[@canto_v12]

This is a gem. Both on the interviewer and the interviewee ends. This is how you do classy, honest journalism and this is how you explain geopolitics. Countries will inevitably disagree, but the truth does not always lie on one side of history. I loved this and I also loved the segment on Hong Kong protesters which challenged their ideologies and their use of violence.

[@nanningbear]

FYI, Zhou Bo started his military service in Chinese air force since 1979. Then he retired and now he is an academic in China's Tsinghua University and some military universities. He has studied in various western universities like Cambridge and Harvard. He often got interviewed by medias like BBC, NBC, and DW. The above information is from his webpage from China's Tsinghua University

[@peorakef]

did he really? doesnt sound like it

[@WiseOwl_1408]

@@peorakef american Universities and communism sound pretty copacetic

[@peorakef]

@@WiseOwl_1408 zhou bo and communism, hahaha!

[@yuglesstube]

He is most impressive

[@claesmansson9070]

This moreon doesn t even know that Russia has guaranteed not to invade Ukr. when their nukes were handed over to guess who ????,yezz tap dancing Miniput!

[@permindersingh9440]

One of THE Best live interview I’ve ever heard. Both the sides didn’t hold up in speaking their mind, certainly not the reporter, even the Chinese diplomat answered so masterfully.

[@alexandercampbell0001]

Watching this chinese propagandist babble on about his concern for humanity is laughable and absurd. If he has such a concern for humanity then maybe he should be focus on his own country's treatment of the Uyghurs.

[@mapletibits6372]

@@alexandercampbell0001 Hah, have you been to Xinjiang, now that China is open to foreign visitors, to verify your beliefs. Also go visit Tibet while you at it.

[@drakelang8342]

@@mapletibits6372 opinions are based on travels. So stop with the 50 cent comments. Same excuses for 10 years 🤮

[@TheSubpremeState]

Why are Indians praising Chinese military. Ffs every word he says is rehearsed like a bad salesman. Why are people such terrible judges? Or do I have a gift. If I lived in las Vegas I'd clean up at poker. What a Chinese. What a liar

[@TheSubpremeState]

@@mapletibits6372 Tibet that China occupies . Was that supposed to be humour. Clever if it was. You been to tianamen square? When civil rights protesters were mowed down by the same system except more dangerous now. Bill Clinton let them into WTO. Clown

[@danielpang9078]

DW reports about China are always bias and negative, but this interview is actually very good! This is what we call "adult talking" compare to the western mainstream narratives. This is the attitude to end a war. Great job! The Germany had enough of this war, and seeking a way out, that's why this interview can be seen out here.

[@noelgrippen4707]

China does more than enough to provide feed to that negative narrative.

[@martin32074]

Its still bias to be honest. He literally ask China why not support Ukraine on this war. The whole war was started because of Nato expansion and which Russia has warned mutiple times there would be a war if the expansion doesnt stop. Asking China to support Ukraine is bascially asking to support Nato for which the only purpose is to aggravate the conflict between China and Russia.

[@aaron6493]

Finally I am hearing someone with the intelligence to understand situations and implications. Excellent speech! Thank you!

[@zetristan4525]

What an intelligent, thoughtful man!

[@samvan638]

Questions and answers on point, never seen such an open discussion with a Chinese official on tv before.

[@williamhancock8065]

China is committing genocide against its own ethnic minorities. Don't be fooled by them.

[@michaela4024]

Yes same hear, well spoken with no playing the victim.

[@mushtaqbhat1895]

One can never overrate the importance of mutual communication. Listening to the grievances, objections and complaints of a sometimes irrationally or even mythically envisaged "Enemy" could lead to a more emapthically perceived thinking and most of all an awareness of the generally irrational albeit often through thoughtless statements provoked fears of theirs. This could well lead us also to question our own thinking. Zhou Bo forinstance mentioned the divisive opnions even within the military establishment of USA, a career driven enterprise, if there ever was one. No body is perfect, even when some are driven more from fear than others. Fear mongering however is the bread and butter of many human beings and the ultimate driving force that galvanises the masses. Well done. More such communication should be the order of the day.

[@kevinfisher1345]

Great interview and an even better response. Zhou answers addressed the questions very well, was informative and brought up many great valid points. Very impressive.

[@tomwang3510]

Yes, Zhou ansers so well and lies so naturally. China sends airfighters to harrass Taiwan's air space every day particularly after the start of the War in Ukrain. What is this daily action for? Also comunist China was born from Soviet Union. Don't you know a common phrase used to refer to Russia in China, "Dadddy Russia." Without Russia, there is no communist China.

[@kevinfisher1345]

@@tomwang3510 And when did Zhou lie about China not sending air over Taiwan's air space? What does China and the USSR being communist have anything to do with what I stated at all? Overall, your response is one big FAIL!!! But nice try at not providing any evidence of his alleged lies. The reality is people are people. Different peoples of humans have different cultures and civilizations. Zhou was merely responding with his own personal opinions, and based upon his own Chinese culture aspect and how they might view things. There is nothing wrong with people and civilizations having different viewpoints and opinions. I do not agree with much of what he said, but at least now I do have a bit more understanding where they might be coming from. It is good to have communication and try to understand each other. Bad when it is just some mysterious unknown reason why.

[@freedomlife3623]

His mission accomplished, at least in your case. People are so easy to be influenced. What did he really expressed besides touting Chinese government lines?

[@deaffatalbruno]

I am very critical of the CCP, but for a Chinese official ( part of the delegation) and ex military leader, this was a surprisingly frank and open conversation. Very little dodging questions. ... different matter how much i agree, but def much better dialog than i have seen in a long time. Normally it is just blaming and deflection.

[@pervertt]

Same mesage, different packaging. China has decided that Zhao Lijian's rabid dog responses were too aggressive and not winning China any friends.

[@n.c9653]

Dialog is always good in Chinese. Imagine trying to answer such questions in your 3rd or 4th language.

[@TheKkpop1]

You're very good in blaming China when China is not taking part wars in europe.

[@hong-enlin4651]

Too bad your typical western audience can only comprehend like a trump fan.

[@jkk916]

@@TheKkpop1 You are very good for blaming people for something they haven't even said.

[@wushuangss1]

This dialogue between the two is so artful solely from how each carry out their point of view and the conversation.

[@dfsdh432v9]

NPC Conversations In Oblivion

[@sidakong9467]

At least it's much more civil than most of the talk these day

[@davidcwitkin6729]

By "artful" you mean the Chinese guy is being "evasive".

[@xbuzm5306]

He's a 'top guy', he has to be evasive

[@babathegoodmansamba8533]

Questions and answers are worked out before. We call it a script, its basic for such an interview !! Its made by Chinese before all Questions must pass Chinese direction !

[@matthewbarnes4424]

This has to be among the best interviews I've seen.

[@alexsarakapudau1146]

Well spoken, Mr. former Chinese Senior Military Colonel Zhou Bo. This was refreshing to hear him speaking comparing to western diplomats speaking.

[@roosenlodewijkwiggers4594]

This interviewer should get a prize for it. So many politicians, and soon to be interviewers should analyze this interview and learn from it. If we in the Netherlands had only 1 interviewer with 10% of the capabilities of Richard Walker, i would be delighted!

[@culbinator]

This man is a great ambassador for his people

[@thisiskevin1000]

Now a scholar on international relations, specifically military affairs

[@raultiangson6977]

@@thisiskevin1000 I will be Closely watching this man and his wolf Warrior mindset covered up in sheep clothing He is a slick deceitful man that I will not totally trust.

[@xxcessus]

Yes he is indeed a superb ambassador for China.

[@xxcessus]

I was very impressed with the Chinese gentleman. He was courteous to all questions asked and gave such good replies. I sincerely wish for good relations with China as we have but one world and living in harmony is what all nations should strive for.

[@sooteekeng5678]

Arthur Matthews I would like to see Peace and cooperation between US n China. But then majority of US politician is mongering for this war to happen .

[@JapGujral2000]

What a worthy diplomat with such matured statements , from 🇮🇳

[@gameplayonlynovoiceovers]

Interviews like this are so important to gain international context. What an interview. Great answers. I wish more news/reporting had this level of professionalism.

[@angelamilton5134]

Those views don't represent the CCP

[@LewLew49]

@@angelamilton5134 I wish you are wrong 😐

[@Bill-em9zn]

"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. " But westerns have been fooled so many times!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 As a Chinese Canadian, I can't help laughing!

[@percyzhang1230]

@@angelamilton5134 Those views do represent most of Chinese. Peace and development are the most precious thing for China now.

[@snippe1346]

Can you explain what he said in short ?

[@ivanlys4377]

What an intelligent, well spoken proper statesman. Refreshing

[@gabrielaleactus9932]

I think someone in the comments said that he's a professor and a former military officer. No wonder he's so well spoken and well versed in this subject.

[@anthony64632]

What about Taiwan which should keep its sovereignity ?

[@anthony64632]

@dashi qiang , he kept talking about peaceful reunification with Taiwan as a Taiwan don't want it. He must respect Taiwan

[@anthony64632]

@dashi qiang ,he must not talk about peaceful reunification as it won't work

[@anthony64632]

@dashi qiang only dumb ones will believe in what CCP say but the rest are smarter not to trust CCap. They have seen what CCP have done to their own citizens. Freedom to Taiwan

[@NeelBasu]

When European countries and USA invaded other countries then European leaders did not condemn. They supported those invasions. They should expect the same now.

[@simonthomas2521]

Great interview. Thanks so much!

[@jazzenthusiast4353]

This is a very interesting interview. Thank you for giving Mr. Zhou Bo the time to explain China's position and view on the Ukraine and Russia situation.

[@BostonDavidR]

I agree Sir. whist I do not agree with everything he said, I thought his very articulate responses made a lot of practical sense. If we had more from China in this manner there would be far less problems with China in my opinion.

[@thisismetoday]

I think you are forgetting how inherently corrupt and authoritarian China is. Also, they are currently conducting a genocide at their western most area, called Xinjiang province.

[@BostonDavidR]

@@dashiqiang I was not directing blame one way or the other. I was simply saying we need more.

[@BostonDavidR]

@@dashiqiang ah I see. Yeah the media pretty much sucks everywhere. I guess that is why we are all heaping praise on this dude for doing his job. Right?

[@peorakef]

@dashi qiang more of defending murder you mean? not really receptive, and rightly so

[@keithng5249]

This Chinese dude is awesome. The world would be so much safer if everyone can communicate their concerns and analyze clearly like him

[@CycOp]

Why is he not heard more? Because most of the western media won’t let him.

[@ostrakos4785]

Honestly he would make big bucks teaching classes

[@kenharvey8161]

Well, he basically said that there will be war if the democracies didn't just hand the whole first island chain over to China, so I don't see that attitude leading to peace.

[@keithng5249]

@@kenharvey8161 sure, he adheres to the view china will be on par militarily to the US by mid century. So by then there'll be no need for war even coz the power balance would be completely lopsided anyway.

[@kenharvey8161]

@@keithng5249 but, it isn't just the US, but Taiwan, Japan, Australia, etc. China can't win a war over Taiwan. Whether China can reach military parity is doubtful anyway; even if it did, it is too strategically isolated to win a war against the democracies. Even if they won, they would be destroyed, politically and economically. Kind of like what is currently happening to Russia. Probably they know that and are just trying to bluff their way into Taiwan, but it isn't really clear.

[@zhouye2491]

这位代表的论点总结： 关于乌克兰： 中国作为尚未统一的国家， 对领土完整非常重视。俄国的入侵毫无疑问是对乌克兰主权和领土完整的侵犯。 中国同时也考虑了俄罗斯发动战争的原因。中国对俄罗斯确有同情，在于北约东扩压缩了俄罗斯的势力范围。 “势力范围”这个词很难听，但俄罗斯就是信奉这一点。我们理解普京的这种信条，但不代表我们同意这就是对的。 我们对遭受炮火的乌克兰人深表同情，但这是战争的结果，我们需要更关注战争的起因。不研究起因，就无法结束战争和乌克兰人的苦难。 中国对领土主权的强调已经表明了立场。中国经常批评美国，却没有直接谴责俄罗斯，是因为这两国对待中国的态度也不一样。美国把中国当对手，而中俄互为最大的邻国的关系良好很重要。不仅是邻国的原因，中俄在经济上也互相需要。 中俄关系不应该被和中国无关的事情而影响，比如乌克兰战争。 西方不应该强迫中国对与自己无关的事情站边，也不该因此假设中国在暗中支持俄罗斯。 相反，中国愿意做双方的调停者。 这场战争完全不符合中国利益。中国希望战争能够越快结束越好。 而西方对乌克兰的大力支持使战争不断升级。然而俄罗斯是无法这样就被打败的，俄罗斯当然也无法赢得这场战争。 中国很担忧同时坚决反对俄罗斯使用核武器，也反对俄罗斯使用核威胁。中国已经多次敦促俄罗斯不要使用核武器，这不是外交关系的问题，这是关乎人类文明的问题。 俄罗斯自己也承诺过，核战争没有赢家。 关于台湾问题： 中国至今没有统一台湾的具体时间表。 乌克兰战争爆发后，中国仍然保持冷静，国防预算仍然只有GDP的2%。 乌克兰战争的爆发与台湾海峡局势毫无关系。中国一直致力于和平统一，台湾被战争破坏殆尽完全不符合中国利益。但中国保留在极端情况下使用武力的选项。 佩罗西访问台湾，没有得到拜登和国防部的支持。美国如果爱好和平，就不应该如此挑衅中国。 美国的内部是分裂的，不仅是草根和精英，也包括不同的部门，甚至在军队内部也是。比如就有一个四星上将毫无根据的说中国会在2025年武统台湾，美国国防部就不同意这种说法。国防部就应该管好这位将军的嘴，而不是借着这位将军毫无根据的说法去质问中国。 关于中美关系： 中美双方都不希望擦枪走火，都希望关系能够稳定。 中方认为，双方实力要对等，和平才能得到保障。否则弱的一方一定会担心强的一方恃强凌弱。例子就是美苏冷战期间的大部分对话和协议都是在美苏实力接近的冷战初期达成的。 中国的军力比美国弱得多，2030年也赶不上。中国不可能跟美国全球争霸。只要能在西太平洋地区维护中国主权就足够了。

[@LTBOA]

非常棒的翻译

[@chrisvalleqatsi]

The world is too small, and China too large and central to imagine things moving without their involvement. As an American, I am used to our government being fairly blunt and unashamed in it's broad foreign policy strokes, especially when they are made in error. China has the advantage of centuries of geopolitical and strategic experience to draw upon, and as a superpower going forward, has a lot to teach, while still having the opportunity and real need to take lessons form the West as well. For the time being, Russia is surely the world's problem, but one that lies literally at China's doorstep, so it shouldn't be surprising that they would see no advantage in confrontational posturing at this point. I think we need a major player like them to stand still, at least temporarily, while everyone else scrambles.

[@cestmoi4252]

I disagree. I do not see China wanting to get involved in political matters of other nations the way USA does and did.

[@cestmoi4252]

@@kanding3369 And the US/western world does? LOL!

[@cestmoi4252]

@@kanding3369 nope, the west doesn't care abt Ukraine. If they do, when the peace negotiation was on the table, they would've tried to make it happen i/o sabotaging it and then keep financing Ukraine with more weapons for a war they may never win. The US cares abt Europe's dependency on Russia's gas/oil, it cares abt outing n suppressing Russia and Russia's ties with China...etc. It's all about its global dominance and its domestic oil/gas/defense industries' gains. As for EU, I seriously don't know what they care about, other than following US's foreign policy. You're right abt the west forgetting abt their own people's suffering. Ukraine gives the elite huge political/financial/military gains and hey, let's also not forget about a "good and just" image n reputation.

[@willv88]

@@cestmoi4252 I don't think Chris's mention of involvement is necessarily of political involvement, but rather peaceful involvement and economic development.

[@DccAnh]

@@willv88so what China is currently doing already ?

[@julianlora_]

The NATO expansion excuse for the aggression is hilariously sad at this point

[@sidakong9467]

@@josephlupo8969 Cuba?

[@kellenhietpas7349]

@@josephlupo8969 Yes it is.

[@soundersounder8785]

Russian troops at Mexico wiil it be ok for you

[@francisyockey8225]

I'm sure America would welcome China to put millitary bases and nuclear missiles close to the borders of America. Give your head a wobble mate

[@bartholomewtott3812]

​@@user-xi2ru4bu9fThe difference is the US has no interest in annexing Mexico. Without NATO Russia would corrupt the Baltic States under threat of force just as they have in Georgia.

[@bartholomewtott3812]

NATO has kept peace in Europe. It was a mistake not to include Ukraine.

[@reuben3077]

Facts

[@francisyockey8225]

Just like how the Romans put their own legions in conquored territories to maintain control, America has followed the same process with nato. While nato could be argued to have stopped conflicts between members (American client states) it certainly hasn't brought peace as we consistently get drawn into Americas wars to maintain their hegimony

[@bartholomewtott3812]

@@mh-ht2fp if pressured Ukraine could have reformed. Or NATO could have provided security guarantees. If the political will existed.

[@bartholomewtott3812]

@@francisyockey8225 American client states? That's absurd. Europe is a strong economic competitor to America. You really think Macron and Sholtz take their orders from Washington? It should be obvious that NATO is not controlled by America otherwise Finland and Sweden would be members already. This take on NATO is full of holes. After America invaded Iraq France withdrew from NATO. In fact they along with other European nations argued passionately against it.

[@she825]

NATO which is a US pack is the worse thing that ever happened to Europe. Europe has absolutely no sovereignty

[@alexayw]

Most Respected interview ever, asking and listening, no interruption, fully understanding each other, well done. Keep going 👍

[@nadsyakhan5425]

The former Chinese Colonel have spoken all things clear and in a very truthful manner. Salute Sir for your honesty and unshakable stand as Russia's best Ally. We love and support for your BRICS!

[@jorsm.3893]

A very respectful interview. I feel like in the first answer you can feel that the interviewee has to make conscious effort not phrase it in a way that deviates from his government's official standpoint. The second most interesting part for me was the part about nuclear weapons, where a clear stance was formulated. Other than that, it is nice to see that civilized talks without too much name-calling are still possible.

[@MrJdsenior]

And there it is, the word respectful for about the fortieth time, reading down.

[@canto_v12]

And it's entirely possible that he agrees with his government's official standpoint. That's the message I read from this. He is eloquent enough to voice his opinions, and you don't agree with his opinions. Doesn't mean he was forced to say it.

[@deang5622]

​@@canto_v12 He lives in China. Of course he was forced to say it. If he didn't he knows what would happen to him - he would be "disappeared". The only way you get an unbiased, frank and honest viewpoint from any Chinese person is when they are in exile in a country other than China

[@kikbut6517]

The question is,. why can't US officials behave in a more diplomatic way? and not deviating from White house or Pentagon's standpoints.

[@canto_v12]

@@kikbut6517 because there are orders to antagonise China, and there is domestic cultural demand to be racist as a sort of consolation for gradually declining hegemony.

[@carocho9933]

Man, this journalist is a beast. That's exactly what a journalist should be and how they should work always. Asking the right questions, without fears and without disrespect. Congrats

[@kgan4733]

That's great 👍 good journalism shall be appreciated, not CIA

[@darrenross3645]

Thoroughly enjoyed this interview - very informative, respectful and well asked and answered questions. Great job

[@hclau218]

I would like this DW reporter to answer : Iraq invaded by USA - where is the respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity. Syria is still partly occupied by USA and it's military is stealing Syrian Oil. Where is Syrian territorial integrity. DW ignores all violations by the USA and has the hypocrisy of asking these questions?

[@hangten1904]

I just appreciate the fact the DW interviewer didn't interrupt the interviewee. They don't even do that on 60 Minutes.

[@RaveYoda]

Letting someone openly lie without push back isn't actually being a good reporter or interviewer. If an interviewee said the sky is red and Putin has coitus with his mother then that should be challenged or interrupted for clarification purposes.

[@Brian-qj4kk]

🤮

[@maxsecrest]

Yeah. I wouldn't have the patience the reporter does with this imperialist warmonger

[@RaveYoda]

@dashi qiang "A journalist job is being objective and not have a biased opinion." You don't seem to actually understand journalism or interviewing, then as t hat's not correct. A journalist's job is to report truth. In my prior comment I gave an example of two blatant lies. That should be challenged by stating current known truths (the sky is blue and Putin does not have coitus with his mother) and then have the interviewee explain/provide evidence for their position. As it actually stands, many journalists don't challenge lies for fear of looking biased which in turn has created a false equivalence problem where every stated thing is left to actually seem like there are two sides to every argument when in fact there isn't. Unironically, this strategy is often used by despots and authoritarian regimes like Russia and China to create confusion and just enough doubt in the populace in order to keep them from challenging the powers that be on their lies.

[@bingboyify]

yes when i watch cnn, it feels like if the reporter does not interrupt the interviewee every 15 seconds, they won't get their salary paid lol

[@Catanman39]

Amazing interview. Bravo to German media. More information, understanding and communication on REAL issues in this clip that a month watching any major American media outlet.

[@boogieondown5824]

Balanced insightful American news reporting is dead. DW has its bias but it does not trumpet it and demonize others.

[@Catanman39]

@@boogieondown5824 you hit my feelings completely. Ditto to that.

[@loc1k]

Not quite. Joe Blow is a fascist liar.

[@NotShowingOff]

Ever since US blew up nordstream, the Germans haven’t been so pro-ukraine

[@frank-ko6de]

Spitting nonsense with double talk is masterclass is double talk for these 🤡🤡🤡🤡s. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@franciscouderq1100]

Well prepared interview and professionally conducted.

[@henrysmith1464]

I begin to appreciate an important soft power of a people is its ability to obtain and disperse information with quality and no bias. The more audience you have, the more impact you enjoy.

[@TomRivieremusic]

‘’ It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.:

[@frapino]

Thats an understatement, not only his salary, his life also depends on him not understanding it.

[@lubricustheslippery5028]

Not just hes salary, it's also about the continuation of the head being firmly attached to the body. Everyone going against Xi in china will disappear.

[@jeanpierremichel9372]

I think he is talking about rhe journalist not the diplomat

[@katong1953]

@jeanpierremichel. Hahaha, you must be right. People in the west arrogantly think that people in the Global South jungle are salaried obedient servants, but those in the western garden are full of knowlege, wisdom and objectivity (and maybe needed no salary). And they hang on to the fantasy that Putin woke up one morning in February 2022, felt bored, and decided to invade Ukraine unprovoked. Since the start of the Ukraine war, I am beginning to understand why Europe gave us World War I and II. Europeans (or at least their leaders) seem fully incapable of self-reflection. They think they are the angels, and the Chinese and Russians are the monsters. Well, China and Russia didn't give us World War I and II. And it looks like Europe is now determined to give us World War III. That says something.

[@VFella]

@@jeanpierremichel9372 It is not the journalist who needs to understand anything.

[@andresscl2002]

Mr. Zhou is so clear addressing such sensitive matters. Powerful man

[@JNieckarz]

I was thinking the same thing. I wish we had politicians in the U.S. this clearly spoken without a mix of ignorance and political spin.

[@slomobay6611]

Incredible interview. Thoughtful questions and responses. The nuances the Colonel expresses give texture and depth to this issue from a Chinese perspective. I still worry about it’s efforts towards Taiwan and the U.S. but I’m of the belief that better understanding of all sides is better for impactful decision making as it relates to China U.S. relations.

[@MRT-co1sd]

I am worry about US efforts towards Taiwan and China.

[@chrisnamaste3572]

There is little to understand. Free, happy, and prosperous Taiwan is a direct threat not to China but to the CCP cabal that claims to speak for all Chinese people. The CCP does not speak for all Chinese people. There are over 50 million outside of the CCP control or less than 5% and that burns them up--like it does to all absolutist tyrannies. The CCP under Xi is not a force for good in the world: territorial expansion, debt control of countries to obtain objectives, sea expansion, wolf warrior diplomacy, etc.

[@jenschristianbachmann6346]

What a fantastic interview! This is journalism at its greatest! Extremely well put questions by Richard Weller answered equally extremely well by Zhou Bo. Kudos to both of you! I am especially impressed by the answers given by the latter. I don't think I've ever watched a Chinese official - or 'just' one 'Chinese Senior Military Colonel' attending the Munich Security Conference as he's described in the introduction - being so direct and open in answering the questions he was asked. Agree with him or not isn't the question here - this is journalism - but he gives a valuable insight in how the future may look. Thank you very much, both of you, for making - I hope - everybody wiser by watching this.

[@dripcode2600]

This is a great interview! It really shows some of the miscommunication and misunderstanding, I think, between the United States and China. There are trust issues with the 2 countries, and I would argue the trust issues go both ways and are valid on each side. I have to say this is an amazing interview though.... hats off to the interviewer and DW! Hats off to this Chinese colonel for showing transparency or at least what seems to be transparency. The East and West think so differntly, but hopefully our humanity will bring us together. Can the human race be civil and respectful to each other? Even though history doesn't share my optimism, I think and hope we can. Thanks for a great interview!

[@righthandstep5]

Hopefully. What matters is we don't assume the worst before we assume the best in each other.

[@Kelvin555s]

Good that you believe what came out of someone's mouth 😀

[@LightWingStudios]

THe U.S is tired of the Chinese attempts and successes at STEALING it's Intellectual Property, it's HUGE import taxes and quite honestly it's duplicity. Remember they are COMMUNISTS so by definition they LIE out of BOTH side of their mouths simultaneously.

[@rkarim4117]

The thing is US can not catch up with rapid Chinese development and using different tactics to slow down China. Whole world know US always lied before invading other sovereign countries. So this Taiwan thing is also a cheap tactic not a misunderstanding!

[@charlesjenner1951]

I don't think you are right about China misunderstanding the US : All this talk repeats what Russia says from start to justify the war : China does not seem to have an opinion of its own, it is worrying

[@marktran630]

Colonel Zhou Bo is extremely impressive. He is not only very knowledgeable in politic and Chinese military but is fluent in English. He is very poised and answer all questions with logic and wisedom. I have never heard of this man but he has my respects.

[@herroiischineee5095]

I'm impressed he differentiates his ls from rs

[@TheJoBlackos]

What I see is someone that repeats what someone else told him. NATO expansion has nothing to do with why Putin invaded Ukraine, Mikhaïl Gorbatchev said it multiple times, there was never questions about NATO expansion back in 1990, he never asked for it, and quite frankly it was inimaginable that any country of the ex USSR block will trust the west to ask them to join NATO. It is quite insulting to pretend otherwise

[@marktran630]

@@TheJoBlackos You see someone that repeats something that someone told him? He does it so naturally without notes or scripts in English (not his mother tongue) in detail and logic. Many politician can't even read their notes or speaches in their own language that well. Nothing to do with Nato expansion? Look at how the US reacted to the "spy/weather balloons" that flew over their country? What was their reaction? Two missiles spending over 1 million US dollars to shoot it down. Imagine when you have increasing numbers of military bases surrounding your country by you so called "enemy" what would your reaction be?

[@jaykay2025]

speaking English is extremely impressive?...

[@marktran630]

@@jaykay2025 Please name one U. S official that can conduct themselves properly speaking Mandarin Chinese in an interview by a Chinese reporter. Or in your case, name one Korean official that can conduct themselves in Mandarin with a Mandarin speaking reporter.

[@katarzynapedryc7132]

Thank you for this interview.

[@vizarathali2229]

What a well reasoned and internally consistent argument by General Bo (👏🏼).

[@stchungie]

Pleasantly surprised by this dude. 👏 More honest, realist than expected. I hope 🤞🏻

[@wazzazv614]

Great interview. Nice to see two people who at least have done their homework.

[@henk3202]

We will never agree with China but it is better to see wang yi and this colonel talking then the ' wolf warrior spokesman on steroids'. They sound more intelligent and look more like gentlemen thus more as a diplomat

[@Zac0827]

Well the rest of the world will never agree to US again that’s for sure. Trouble maker of the century!

[@fredrikforsman8143]

One of the best interviews I have seen. Balanced and well mannered. The Colonel was just as excellent!

[@LTBOA]

相互尊重非常好👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@sambirkett1376]

an interesting and insightful interview that for once is not agenda fuelled and allows the time for a well answered and elaborated answer. This is the sort of interview that allows opposing sides to understand each other without aggression or conflict and is what the world needs more of

[@mlight7402]

This reporter asked insightful and precise questions and received detailed answers... excellent interview.

[@mojo9291]

It seems the Colonel discusses the point of view of China pretty frankly even if he is just repeating the official position. He's a great diplomat.

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

He did just repeat the party line about NATO expansion. Like listening to a British envoy caught with the Confederates during the US Civil War talk about State's Rights. But this is an ethnic cleansing. When it's been stated plainly by Putin and Dugin for 20+ years they would genocide the Ukranian people, & the Poles, Lithuanians, and more who won't assimilate into the Russian Eurasianist Empire.

[@AstroGremlinAmerican]

Fantastic. When I invest in watching a video, I must exclaim, "The best video ever, great discussion!"

[@mojo9291]

@Astro Gremlin The best comment ever, great discussion.

[@pompeo9116]

America is the only country which want to start the war and keep the war in Europe! Without war America will go bankrupt! Sadly European politicians and major medias never talk about it and challenge it! I am just wondering if Europe is another state of America????

[@tonysia6474]

Great interview and great answer from Col. Zhou Bo.

[@zhzmtz]

One of the best interviews I've seen in years. Thank you DW, great job! Very professional!👍

[@ongman1]

Ex Soviet states really have no choice. If they want their sovereignty intact, they need to join NATO.

[@ahm848]

And they also ready to bear consequences

[@CHMichael]

They could have formed their own pact

[@SawBuii]

NATO expand cause Ukraine War. Best if you stop NATO from becoming too big and start attacking its neighbor.

[@robrechwithoutzaza7992]

​@@CHMichaelWhy?

[@NewEarthEnglish]

Lmao

[@truenorth4173]

“The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.”-Albert Einstein

[@tonyatgoogle6076]

That's right, Russia should have done something when NATO backed a military coup in Ukraine against a democratically elected govt of Ukraine back in 2014.

[@hamzatariq5073]

The one's who claim to do are more evil!

[@kevinrich5222]

What do you want China to do? Military aid to Russia?

[@davidoconnor393]

Exactly you are not there, seeing it with your own two eyes, are you? you're only " reading" one side in the western media, so his statement is true and you are too dumb to realize it

[@flowzeta5412]

Some of Einstein's theories have been disproven

[@clariplayer]

Excellent interview. I feel a bit better for my grandchildren’s future. 🇦🇺

[@ridleyramos7657]

One of the best interviews to date.

[@alexandrepage-chasse7178]

Wow, this guy gave one of the most nuanced and coherent discours from china I've heard in some time.

[@bryanjackson8917]

While the name of the former Chinese military officer is Zhou Bo, at the beginning of the video it sure sounded like DW's correspondent called him "Joe Bull", which was much more fitting in regards to what he had to say, cuz he was clearly full of it.

[@emscott2705]

@@bryanjackson8917Far from it, he gave the most candid of answers we have seen from China. The only bs here is from YOU.

[@bryanjackson8917]

@@emscott2705 Seems like you might know the answer to this question: Is it really true that the Chinese military is planning to inflate its next spy balloon using the hot air coming out of Zhou Bo's mouth?

[@julioduan7130]

It’s because the Western media usually picked 2 or 3 lines out of a full dialogue from Chinese side, deliberately making Chinese side seem unreasonable and incoherent.

[@bryanjackson8917]

@@julioduan7130 The Chinese government side may or may not be incoherent, but like all demands made by communist dictatorships, it is totally unreasonable.

[@BCSTS]

This Chinese man actually makes perfect sense...Good interview!

[@jerronng6036]

Well said !!!

[@blackhavaianas]

Excellent interview. Carefully phrased but honest and very insightful responses from the interviewee and good structure from the interviewer. Also great mutual respect - why can’t all interviews be like this!

[@dayglow9388]

Excusing war crimes with political rhetoric

[@dpeasehead]

@dayglow9388: As in Vietnam, Panama, Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, Yemen, and on and on...

[@DennyTroncoso]

Enjoyed this candid interview from a Chinese Delegation member. I don’t agree with the NATO expansion argument by Putin but it is great to understand the thoughts of the Chinese Gov’t on this matter.

[@stephenhill545]

They know its a BS pretext as well, but they want Sphere of interest themselves, so ultimately they will back Russia. This is the international world order Russia rails against.

[@bryanjackson8917]

While the name of the former Chinese military officer is Zhou Bo, at the beginning of the video it sure sounded like DW's correspondent called him "Joe Bull", which was much more fitting in regards to what he had to say, cuz he was clearly full of it.

[@l.s68]

Its just words

[@Gopferteckel]

There’s two ways to expand influence, hard power and soft power. We know who’s doing what and how. NATO expanded though popularity and desire. Not by force. Whether you like NATO or not, it was all done legally and above board.

[@jimrobinson6478]

NATO expansion is a valid reason for Russia to go in to push back against the threat. Not like our phony WMDs argument.

[@superDedic0]

I love this guy I don’t know any Chinese politics but he’s speaking facts in this

[@waasar]

This is such a nice down-to-earth interview. Very good to see other perspectives in such a light.

[@szhou888]

Mr. Zhou should be a key person in 外交部!!! great composure and communication skills, need this kind of people to effective dealing with the world.

[@qazpang3]

He is impressive 👍 firm and neutral 🎉

[@carlbrutananadilewski8395]

As an American, I actually am really impressed with his professionalism and ability to convey the intent of China, while still being respectful and direct. Seems like an honestly level-headed intellectual guy. HE needs to be the diplomat!

[@daniel86250]

If he was an official they would discredit him/twist/slander and ignore regardless.

[@RafaEl-qn6ep]

To put Xi Jinping's China in charge of peace negotiations is like putting vultures in charge of your local cemetery and expecting them not to eat the corpses.

[@francisyockey8225]

As compared to what, America? Who has never met a war they don't like

[@qili3899]

The daily offical TV news of China mainly contains three parts: preisdent Xi is busy, Chinese people are happy, western countries are evil.

[@antr7493]

@@francisyockey8225 Hey, tell your friends to stop the terrorist attacks, genocides, etc and we will stop. Learn some history and then make a informed comment next time.

[@DarxKies]

@@francisyockey8225 bUt BuT aMeRiCa... 🤡

[@CockmageLVL99]

There is no better option than China right now

[@damun2205]

absolutely fantastic interview from the perspective of historical context

[@AndorranStairway]

This is why I respect DW. If this was the BBC or any American news network, this man would be interrupted every few seconds. It’s getting exhausting watching journalists constantly trying to steer the answers of their interviewees towards their own agendas.