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[@Lmlm8168]

I’m gonna bet the “no criminal record” just means “hadn’t been arrested for behavior yet “ .

[@BurroGirl]

Or he had a juvenile record that was sealed and/or expunged.

[@NeilMalthus]

@lauren, isn't that obvious? Half the people in the world will have broken the law at some point in their life. Lots will have been caught and criminally convicted at least once (to earn a criminal record) whereas many many more won't have been. It's quite normal. Take soft drugs / unjust UK law. I've smoked a fair few joints in my time. But never been arrested for breaking the law. Hence, I don't have a criminal record - though some might 'legitimately' argue I should have for what I've just admitted to.

[@wendellbonin7059]

Seat belt violation 😆 but that will come out in bc.& We'll know the audio of that supposedly fake call to the podcast show when he testifies in court if the planet of the apes doesn't cut his throat first 😭

[@residentpotato6023]

He is a arrogant prick.

[@davemay6014]

usually what that means Sherlock.

[@minipixel-ks2ng]

This reporter asks much better questions than any on the major networks…so smart

[@bobcuster8930]

Huh? Not really....

[@beeroftherat1]

Definitely. I also prefer her to most of the other anchors on the same network. I won't name names, but in terms of both style and substance, she's handled stories about this case far better than others have. Hoping to see her take the lead on this one.

[@firearmsbeyondinternationa2452]

Great questions

[@georgiesimmons5924]

@@beeroftherat1 thank you same Banfield is so freaking annoying

[@sithe0]

@@bobcuster8930 salty much? lol

[@karmaMatters123]

Six weeks is not a long time to solve a case like this. And please don’t give him credit that he doesn’t deserve. He’s not that smart. He apparently drove his vehicle to the crime. And if his DNA is under the fingernails of the victims or co-mingled with the victims DNA or on/in areas of a house where he shouldn’t have been then it doesn’t matter that he was in the house. Please don’t feed into this monsters narcissism.

[@khiem1939]

For all of his "so called" intelligence, it's a SHAME for HIM that he didn't KNOW that many Americans NOW have security systems around their homes!

[@RobertMJohnson]

agree. he might be a "smart" guy or a "good" student, but he was a shit criminal for sure.

[@Juno_Beach]

You're only "smart" when not emotionally attached the incident or crime . Brooklyn Brian was blinded by lusty fetishes that creeped out locals & blinded him from the obvious

[@jesselox3470]

Thank you. Its only been a couple of days and im already seeing many comparisons to ted bundy (who also wasn’t as smart as some try to paint him) and its frustrating because thats exactly the type of attention he wants and also because its false. 6-7 weeks to solve a quadruple murder is FAST

[@PoisonShot20]

There isn't a perfect crime.

[@caroledwards3289]

The house they had was used for parties even when the residents of the house were not there. Anybody could have gone inside there. It's mind blowing how unsafe that was.

[@christoph1596]

Who said that?

[@brendadamron581]

The cops said that they were called there several times only to find occupants weren't home

[@blackicex1622]

Let’s be real here, these girls weren’t the smartest.

[@WillieDuitt1]

In my experience college students are not the best at locking their doors and many are just too damn trusting of strangers

[@hh7407]

@Nuby Right. So his DNA would be there because he partied there. How can they separate DNA from partying from DNA from murders. They might not have showered since their last s-xual experience. They might have just gone to sleep. Then they get murdered and the last group they slept with would have their DNA in their bed, in and on their bodies. Let's face it. This level of partying that neighbors regularly called the cops because of wild parties, they were sleeping with whomever walked through the door.

[@tayjo1820]

I feel so bad for those sweet college kids. The boogeyman literally came into their room and made every horror movie, a reality.

[@kurliigurlii]

Yep. Some fucking self-important incel who I suspect killed them because one of them turned him down 😑

[@Becoming1]

They had their whole lives, grateful the two downstairs were unharmed. What evil.

[@KatharinaK117]

@@Becoming1 whole lives? Yea! AHEAD OF THEM YOU CREEP!

[@Mila-Nova]

@@Becoming1 yes because they locked their doors I imagine if they had not locked their doors those two girls would have sadly been victims too

[@francisdashwood1760]

You don't have to feel bad because it's a fake crime...the whole thing's a staged hoax!

[@ErynRenee]

The fact that he had no close ties to the victims and the investigators were able to track him down in 6-7 weeks is impressive, considering how long it usually takes in other cases where the murderers & victims didn't know each other.

[@solutionxero]

he was stalking kaylee and she told her dad about it

[@emilliexo]

I thought I read that he worked with one of them previously... idk I read it on twitter. Maybe it's not true. Who knows.

[@bro6568]

I get so creeped out every time I see his picture.. he just looks scary and evil does anyone else get that feeling?

[@lobsterblacc9478]

We don't know if they've encountered each other yet

[@javamurniadi6520]

Ikr the Delphi murder case took years

[@4BlackDiamond]

I can’t get past these kids losing life because of this animal. Praying for the families and souls of these angels.

[@annabellebeckwith9283]

Let's be kind to the animals. He is not one of them.

[@RobertMJohnson]

i can't imagine, however, they should have been armed and should have their doors locked. there's plenty of violence on college campuses and students should be better protected and more protective of themselves

[@johnnybuckets0073]

If only you and everyone else cared as much about the cases that don’t make the news. Sheep tho follow what’s put in front of them. Eat what they tell you, idolize the celebs they put in your face. Nice and obedient.

[@nillyk5671]

Please, Do Not insult animals. People should really stop using the word "animal" as if it was an insult.

[@nillyk5671]

@@RobertMJohnson Armed? 🤣

[@poigmhahon]

Any cold premeditated crime is going to be harder to solve than a spontaneous crime of passion...kudos to law enforcement if indeed this is the perpetrator.

[@sainttimothy2230]

So this was just a random quadruple murder

[@Littleone124]

@SAINT TIMOTHY no known link has been shared yet

[@Pippi-Longstocking]

Aggressive flirting? It was inappropriate advances. The waitstaff should be off limits because they are there doing their job. Also he called one waitstaff a nasty name because she wasn’t responding the way he wanted her too. For those men out there who understand when flirting is appropriate and understands no means no - keep on flirting!!

[@karaElise330]

@@sainttimothy2230 oh yes he was linked to kaylee. It’s on the news

[@karaElise330]

@@Littleone124 yes there’s a link to Kaylee the one killed the most brutal

[@madeinussr7551]

The surviving roommates must feel like they dodged such a bullet....so close...

[@goldbud2287]

You think ?

[@joannnelson9847]

But it still bothers me that they didn't waken and how could one man subdue so many with so little disruption in the middle of the night?

[@hamzterix]

@@joannnelson9847 yeah I can over the fact that all the commotion it takes to stab someone to death let alone 4 additional bodies. No one saw it coming?

[@donaldvonglitchenberger4108]

@@joannnelson9847re you that dimwitted. It’s not hard to slit throats while people are sleeping. Boggles my mind how so many of you morons can’t understand there’s so many scenarios where a killer can make quick work of people. And many reasons why they didn’t hear anything, if anything was even screamed out. You guys are really showing your lack of critical thinking skills with this whole roommate thing. It’s embarrassing lol

[@xamcd]

@@joannnelson9847 kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6rYcmiLfKp9pZo Fox News did an interview with a former tenant and he talks about his opinion on that since he lived there too

[@zachariahbarber5794]

This wasn't his first crime, I would look back at where he has been and try to find other crimes that have been unsolved, this generally presents in childhood so going back to highschool, I'm sure there will be others

[@Heseesyou]

That is why after posting his face the chief is asking anyone who ever knew him or encountered him to come FORWARD!!!

[@CM30-e1q]

exactly

[@Pj-mj7wi]

@@Heseesyou if ever he have other who he killed ofcourse they would've not come forward because they're already dead.

[@hllok]

Absolutely!! He is an aspiring serial killer. I don’t think for a moment his first kill was a quad! This was him stepping it up because the others have been too easy to get away with.

[@wil404]

I think what they'll probably do is focus on trying to prove in a court of law that he is indeed guilty of the 4 murders that they actually know happened and are in their jurisdiction, instead of trying to solve speculative hypotheticals.

[@shadrach6299]

There are sick people in this world…..

[@tyron2854]

This guy is innocent, everyone in the area already said it was black guys that did it, but because of the woke government they had to blame a white guy

[@Heseesyou]

1 Peter 5:8 “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:”

[@Romans1.24-27]

Demon possessed

[@michael_caz_nyc]

Violent Heartless Cowardly Animals. I won't even throw-out my garbage in NYC without 3 Weapons ( on-me, at all times ). Horrible way to live.

[@AlexRaymond2023]

murder is wrong, unless you have Halloween costume & a badge😂 Officer DeAngelo, Joyce Gilchirst, Officer Holtzclaw, Officer Guyger, Officer Noor, Officer William Dorsey Jones Jr. and 1000s more looooove killing unarmed people. Id hate to be murdered but Id rather be murdered by a civilian than someone I pay with the $500 a week they take in taxes

[@nealskrenes2612]

*Once the arrest warrant is unsealed,* you’ll have the answers to many questions about how and why this individual came to be the primary suspect.

[@Turk_2023]

I wonder how messed up the roommates are from knowing they were almost slaughtered

[@robyne2260]

So many victims of this evil.

[@dianayount2122]

Two options: They used to drink and party and have really turned it up a notch or they have gone cold turkey. Hard to imagine being in their shoes.

[@MsRotorwings]

Survivors guilt. That and the fact they slept through their friends being murdered. I’d imagine they are feeling guilty about waiting so long to notify the police. No doubt the surviving roommates are traumatized.

[@Keewaf]

the fact that they were the first ones to see their roommates’ slaughtered bodies is unimaginable. there was a 4chan post from mid december of someone claiming to be him and hiding in pennsylvania. he mentioned putting their intestines on the ceiling fan. makes me sick if it is him.

[@evonne315]

@Diana Yount It they were too drunk to wake, and no suprise or fault of thiers if so, then that's what saved them. Bless them.

[@vanessadebrino7231]

It took 7 weeks because that’s how long the genetic genealogists needed. Without them this guy is still walking free. This new tool is the biggest game changer since DNA was applied to forensic science. You leave your DNA, your caught. It’s that simple.

[@markhumble3423]

Bingo.

[@neondreams4016]

How do they find them just by dna if it’s not already in the system? I didn’t know they could do that.

[@AA-kq2rp]

@@neondreams4016 it was the forensic genealogy. His DNA matched I believe with someone else probably uploaded to a genealogy site like ancestry dna or gedmatch where ppl can find common ancestors . It’s how they caught the golden state serial killer after decades recently

[@neondreams4016]

@@AA-kq2rp oh awesome thank god we have that now

[@b-rock6052]

She is an amazing interviewer! Asking great questions

[@imjustbarelygettingstarted7352]

I don't think it took so long to crack the case because he's so smart. I think first they had to investigate and rule out people in the closest circle, they said they conducted over 300 interviews - that takes time. Plus DNA test results and match up takes time. *Edit: hes also from a different school in a different state and his dna isnt in the system. Lucky they found him at all, so this short amount of time isnt that long. And we allll still have very little info so Idk how anyone is speculating how smart this guy is or not. What are the catalysts leading you to speculate that?

[@ernestp.worrell8871]

He’s not convicted yet and we don’t know what proof they have. Saying he had dna in the house and drove a white car isn’t enough.

[@innocentnemesis3519]

Under seven weeks is not really a long time. Plus, often times police are left waiting on the judge’s approval of the probable cause affidavit in order to proceed with an arrest. They can’t control how long that part takes

[@MiturBinEsderty]

If it wasn’t for DNA websites this case would be dead

[@AFloridaSon]

I've not seen anyone actually call him "smart".

[@jturtle5318]

He's smart enough to have a Master's degree and to be in a doctoral program.

[@AFloridaSon]

The Chief says they got the right guy, and I'm going to believe him. That doesn't mean I don't believe he deserves his day in court, but I'm not going to say "allegedly" every time I call him a killer.

[@citizentrials8346]

You should because it is just allegations at this point.

[@RobbieStacks90]

George Santos is the chief.

[@citizentrials8346]

@@RobbieStacks90 So?

[@evonne315]

It's fine I think we all understand. Doesn't confuse me.

[@Gypsygirl9]

Thank you...Same for me.

[@kathrynsinclare8459]

There has been too much talk about the intelligence of this killer, but really he isn’t very smart because it only took the real intelligent people 7 weeks to apprehend him. Who is really smart in this investigation are the authorities that kept the damming evidence and information that they recovered to themselves and didn’t leak it. Now that is intelligence at work. Way to go to all the smart individuals working this case and putting your job first. Amazing! The public can’t thank you enough.

[@koningklootzak7788]

True. If he was more careful, he would have not being active on internet, not get caught on security camera driving Korean car, have not left DNA at crime scene. So he isn't a pro nor thoughtful. He maybe intelligent academically, but not in really life as he basically ruined his own life. How ironic, people study higher education to have a better life, this guy received higher education so he could ruin his life. That's nothing but dumb.

[@lcgoonsquad7650]

You can be intelligent at certain subjects and know nothing about other subjects. He was book smart at the subjects he liked. If he was street smart he wouldnt have drove his car to a planned murder.

[@hunterbidensaidslesion1356]

People always talk about how smart Ted Bundy was. Ted used his real name in the presence of witnesses when luring victims to his car in public areas. The guy was an idiot. He had no Theory of Mind.

[@angelmission]

Yeah,if he was really intelligent, he wouldn't have traded his life for some sick thrill he derived by killing 4 innocent people.

[@angelmission]

@@lcgoonsquad7650 Or, he just wouldn't have MURDERED people!

[@natalielawrence8809]

The fact that they caught him at all- as a criminology student.. who wasn't living in the area.. and was stupid enough to work in a job previously where he knew his DNA was on file.. indicates that he was either not as smart as he thought- or had become sloppy due to relapsing on drugs- where his obsessive nature was magnified by perhaps amphetamines. Credit to all these investigators...

[@callthisnumbernow937]

I thought I heard he was on heroin years ago but I didn’t know he relapsed

[@tjkasgl]

He was going to a college 10 miles away. That's nothing at all in Idaho as most of us live farther away than that from the nearest grocery store.

[@sup_monica3597]

PhD does NOT mean criminal mastermind. He failed the same way an average person would. He was not special.

[@cowboy7170]

He was not smart because he let his little brain (emotions) override his big brain (logic) in the choice of weapon and the decision to kill. His big brain would have told him NOT to use a knife because of the mess and possibility of leaving DNA. Maybe use a gun with silencer instead. But he had all that pent up rage and anger, so he threw logic out the window and unleashed his rage.

[@pennytrue2741]

Psychopaths are mostly dumb. They are beyond cunning and over the top in some ways in trying to bypass authorities and then in other ways they are the dumbest people alive and constantly do the dumbest things ever

[@tonydiaz2541]

Good thing that it wasn't the neighbor, or hoodie man, or the other 2 female roommates that everyone blamed this on. Many apologies to go around for each of them.

[@RobertMJohnson]

it was a murder investigation

[@shozi1799]

@@devra5186 That's not critical thinking.

[@isabellind1292]

People like the neighbor Jeremy only has himself to blame for the onslaught of accusations leveled against him. So what if he was their neighbor! You'd have to be living under a rock not to know inserting yourself into a murder investigation for no good reason can lead to what exactly happened in his case. People need to butt out & not make matters worse which is exactly what he did.

[@unchargedpickles6372]

I saw a report last night that for the last weeks before the attack he'd been stalking the roommates. His phone was pinging wherever the girls were going yet he wasn't there "with" them but he was following them unnoticed.

[@starlooker6612]

He is going to play mind games throughout the investigation and trial.

[@starlooker6612]

@E Boston Yes of course.

[@innocentnemesis3519]

@E Boston I’ve wondered what Kohberger will have to say after the probable cause affidavit is unsealed… Chief Fry seems pretty dang confident they’ve got their guy. Here’s to hoping the evidence is incriminating enough to make the guy plead guilty, but something tells me his big old ego won’t allow it

[@sattaway6854]

If it's insurmountable evidence, he might plead guilty. But, I figured he'll ask them to take the death penalty off the table in exchange for his guilty plea....like Chris Watts. Kind of hope that 's what happens if the families are in agreement so they don't have to go through a trial.

[@tjp3rd]

You ever look at someone and say to yourself, "umm yeah, he's crazy". Thats exactly what I experience here.

[@sharongilley8393]

His parents need to be investigated

[@manda_musings8459]

He looks so creepy honestly

[@slanderman3296]

Dennis from always sunny

[@SQUELCH-zj7il]

He looks like a salamander

[@SQUELCH-zj7il]

@Central Based Agency Ewww

[@missriss_xoxo]

I feel for people who have been bullied, but that is absolutely no reason to take a complete strangers life. Especially when they had nothing to do with it..

[@dextermoore278]

Maybe Bryan was bullied by Maddie or Kaylee. We don't know if they even knew him or not. Maybe they had 1 bad interaction with Bryan and it set him off.

[@Antonio18677]

How do we know this is the guy?

[@techoperatives2232]

@@dextermoore278why are you making excuses for him

[@enriqueta56]

@@Antonio18677 His DNA was found in the crime scene.

[@Antonio18677]

@@enriqueta56 interesting they have to break him down in the interrogation room.

[@socialbutterfly4146]

That’s BS! “Aggressive flirting” NO! He was being a freakin creep! He was making multiple women feel very unconscious! He obviously puts off a very disturbing and sick vibe!

[@nillyk5671]

Unconscious or self-conscious?

[@donaldvonglitchenberger4108]

Go to the gym

[@chiefscheider]

@@nillyk5671 I'm thinkin uncomfortable

[@mongdc]

It’s going to be a very very long journey for victims families. I cannot even imagine what they are going through. I’m glad at least they found him and he won’t be able to hurt anyone else again..

[@daisyrenee]

Yes and seeing the crime scene photos during trial. My heart hurts for them.

[@francisdashwood1760]

It's a hoax...a fake crime. No family members were injured in the production of this HOAX!

[@bklap3741]

Sadly that journey will never end. They’ll Never be closure

[@Random_characters_username]

You don’t need to be smart to be a college student or phd come on now

[@jturtle5318]

How many degrees do you have?

[@anamariaguadayol2335]

Really? Do you have any degrees?

[@el34glo59]

Actually you have to be somewhat intelligent to get your PhD or even masters. Saying otherwise is ridiculous. Now, does it make you're a genius? Or naturally highly intelligent? No. Absolutely not. People that I know consider me extremely intelligent, but I'm not highly educated in the classical sense. There's a difference. But you have to be somewhat intelligent to get a PhD. Saying otherwise is just plain dumb.

[@louannmadden2906]

For real.

[@cameronbaird5658]

As a PhD student, I agree. Everyone calling him "highly intelligent" because he was in a doctorate program kind of triggers me

[@michaelgrabianowski6567]

There are plenty of people that I would like to dispatch with prejudice but my moral compass prevents me from letting my feelings take over. People like him need to be put away forever.

[@johnpeze]

No a bullet would make more sense

[@Heseesyou]

Revenge is mine says the lord of host! Are you right with God? There is room at the Cross.. time is running out, don't miss the boat. 1 Peter 5:8 “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:”

[@watchingitallhere]

Woa buddy. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. This is America.

[@sixslinger9951]

@Holly Carp oh he'll be convicted, they have his DNA at the murder site.

[@apextroll]

The scariest of monsters exist in the comment sections. Monsters recognize monsters and wave their flags.

[@betsy1947]

I'm thinking they got his DNA from under the fingernails of one of the victims. He wouldn't be able to use the excuse that he had been at the house for a party.

[@NinjaBooKitty]

Rough sex.

[@manager4409]

If he was fully covered in gloves, long sleeves and a mask, it's damn lucky one of the victims got any of his DNA. Like if only 1 of the 4 got his DNA then he came extremely close to getting away with it

[@sharporigami5216]

Hopefully, most people are confident he is guilty just because he is a “weirdo”, I am waiting to see how strong a case they have.

[@rickyray2794]

@@sharporigami5216 I think most people are confidant because his DNA was found at the crime scene.

[@cejannuzi]

@@rickyray2794 If he has been to the house before then it won't be so easy. It will have to be intermingled blood, profuse DNA at the crime scene, the exact locations of the murders.

[@cybersal7]

Didn’t the clerk at the convenience store search their security tape and pinpoint the white car? They may have eventually come across that, but maybe not, a lot of tapes were rewritten over. I hope he gets appreciation.

[@AFloridaSon]

Moscow PD already had the car on video. They then asked people a little further out to look on their videos from the time of the murders to see if anyone else had footage of it.

[@elainevelutis5601]

Yes the clerk was the manager and searched the tapes on her own time. Then sent it over to the police with the video spots showing car in the timeframe of the murders.

[@cejannuzi]

It was She. And yes, that was the big break.

[@cejannuzi]

@@AFloridaSon The police even had his name, addr., car make model year color on their database, as they pulled him over for no seatbelt in August. I wonder if anyone thought to look for Elantras there.

[@chrischiarella6101]

The clerk went back through footage AFTER Law Enforcement put out the Elantra BOLO. Not taking anything away from the clerk but it was simply more evidence to consider. I think Law Enforcement has an unreleased photo or video of that car that prompted them to put out that BOLO.

[@jackinjapan]

I know he's innocent until proven guilty, but it would be harder to find someone who fits the bill more than this guy

[@traceyholt8223]

His Dad was in the car as they drove back to Pennsylvania. My guess is that he asked about anyone else being charged because he was concerned his Dad would be implicated.

[@wellard1221]

I’m curious as to how he was as a child and if his parents always had excuses for him.

[@crm208]

Wellard 1221 just like Brian Laundries Mommy and daddy did

[@daphne1079]

Xana probably put up one hell of a fight and his skin cells were found under her finger nails. DNA match!

[@onelittlelamb4030]

Notice, he only asked if other people have been arrested, he wasn’t surprised that he was arrested. Just wanted to know if others were arrested also… I would be like I didn’t commit the murder, because I wouldn’t commit a murder, and I wouldn’t be concerned about anyone else being arrested for the crime. I would be concerned about myself, because I would know that I have not committed the crime…

[@yungmayo4037]

Or it could be that someone else is involved

[@RC-ku8pr]

H I S AN IDIOT REPUBLICAN TRYING TO DISTACT THE COPS

[@keithangstadt4950]

His own lawyer has stated that his client has neither admitted or denied his crime, just claimed that he will be exonerated.

[@JustMe-gs9xi]

he was a law student so he knows the Miranda Rights pretty well im Sure : “You have the right to remain silent” means that you don’t have to say anything that could self-incriminate you. “Anything you say will and can be used against you in a court of law”

[@haydend3469]

Yeah I thought the same thing. I think that he’s being civil and cooperative to play a game but it’s working against him. The circumstances of being arrested suggest that the evidence points to him being the killer. Acting like he’s going to be able to cooperate and clear his name is a bit disconnected because they’re not looking for his cooperation. It would make more sense if he defending his innocence and fighting this process because it would be significantly unfair for an innocent person.

[@Uberragen21]

"Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of your peers." Man, I'd like to withhold my preconceived notion about this man accused of these heinous murders, but it's hard.

[@vickiboyer7169]

Me too, but it's pretty difficult to fight DNA proof, especially if found in either room where the students were killed, or under fingernails.

[@juanaleman3018]

Unless your black or Mexican

[@juanaleman3018]

Wish I had this treatment media being concern for him

[@rickyray2794]

@@juanaleman3018 Because there are no white people that get railroaded and sent to prison.. right? Don't be dense. Always gotta be one in the comment section of pretty much any video.

[@ghostwalk2446]

@@juanaleman3018 Exactly what media is showing "concern for him"?

[@nancymcmonarch]

(－‸ლ) The Cyber Sherlocks STILL obsessing. "No, no, no! It's NOT him! He CAN'T be the killer! He wasn't even on MY Bingo card, so these cops be LYING LIARS!" Doesn't even occur to them to be GLAD there's a suspect in custody, because they're so busy feeling slapped in the face.

[@vls3771]

My favourite..it's a cold case !!!FBI know nothing....

[@melbelle2049]

I'm impressed how quickly they discovered this suspect.

[@allisonlane7367]

The prosecutors are going to need to be able to prosecute very carefully so as not have a mistrial. This guy is going to use his criminology skills to get off. He's already showing that by his eagerness for extradition. Prepare very carefully for this trial.

[@khiem1939]

Most likely will claim INSANITY and then have his parents produce the PROOF of his numerous Mental Problems as a youth! A relative in San Francisco already said he was a NUT CASE who would NOT eat from any cooking utensils or dishes which were used to cook or serve MEAT when his family visited them several years ago!

[@xamcd]

They know exactly how important it is to be careful. That’s why they were so careful about what was released to the public and even family. This guy only thinks he can outsmart everyone because he studied criminology. But reading about it and doing it are different. I can read directions on how to make a complex recipe over and over but that doesn’t mean I can actually make it. I can still fuck it up. Same with someone like him.

[@scifi_shop]

Definitely, he has decades of in the field and court experience and worked with many cases. I would say he's an expert.

[@Samuel-sx1mq]

He isn't smart at all. He got a master's degree at a community college and drove his OWN car to the crime scene. Get a grip

[@molliesilver2586]

Yes Another Darrell Brooks.

[@nelsonx5326]

He's still innocent till proven guilty. They sure seem to think they got the right person. My God, how can somebody do such a thing? And it's looking like some kind of thrill crime. He thinks he's smarter than everybody. If it is him, Mr smart guy just threw his life down the shitter. Prison is mean, ugly, and stupid.

[@judysmith3249]

When proven guilty they need to take him straight to the electric chair. And no last meal.

[@markhumble3423]

You're absolutely right but I'd be stunned if he isn't convicted, sentenced to death, put on Idaho's death row and executed. If he's a psychopath I don't think we'll ever comprehend what his actual thought processes were. Psychological authorities generally say that psychopaths are either born that way or develop through their environment. His apparently catastrophic relationships with women likely explain his rage towards them. It's hard to imagine girls throwing things at him in high school and taunting him when he weighed 300 pounds. Being a heroin addict in high school is surely an alarming sign. In a way he may have been on a mission to simply get even.

[@RobertMJohnson]

if ? hilarious

[@dawggonevidz9140]

he's the serial killer. you can tell by the white skin and how he murdered 4 people that we know about.

[@judysmith3249]

@@RobertMJohnson It's just a matter of time.

[@marthawoodworth]

Bundy was a law student.

[@RichWeigel]

Yep I’ve said all along a lot of similarities here with Bundy and this guy. Meaning he’s probably killed or was gonna kill again.

[@TaylorL.X.K]

This probably wasn't his 1st time.

[@jaynec7499]

I wonder if this guy has killed before.

[@ag-th7hu]

I'd bet my last dollar that he has!

[@e.fooyoung7451]

*No.*

[@haleytruslow7200]

I would be willing to bet money he has. You don’t start out with a quadruple homicide. And 28 makes him a late bloomer if this is his first- no I really think he has before and got away with it. Then he graduated to something even more horrific- 4 at a time

[@bethjoy2763]

You don't even know if he's guilty Innocent till proven guilty in the USA

[@firee88]

@@haleytruslow7200 I agree I truly believe he has killed before this

[@jeffinphx517]

WTF is "aggressive flirting?" It's called harassment ffs.

[@sattaway6854]

They said he wanted their names, their home addresses and what time they got off work. He was quite demanding and pissed when one of them in particular refused to answer any of his questions.

[@soundpilatesandyoga8531]

@@sattaway6854 Seriously?! Red flags all over the place.

[@sattaway6854]

@@soundpilatesandyoga8531 Hell yea, and they're going to discover more red flags. I'm glad they made those notes in their database when they carded him at the brewery. If it goes to trial, I hope the judge allows all that in.

[@brendacurrie358]

He was in the chat rooms after the murder taunting ppl - he’s a psychopath 😮

[@cmills1008]

It takes exactly as long as it's been for DNA results. That's why it took this long

[@sherrimercer7288]

I can’t imagine a quadruple stabbing murder is what someone starts off with.

[@RobertMJohnson]

so the columbine mass shooting, as a "starts off with" crime, which has already happened, is unimaginable to you?

[@edricawebb1578]

He had someone with him who's done this before.

[@sherrimercer7288]

@@RobertMJohnson That wasn’t a single killer. They were not 28. They didn’t use a knife. They didn’t go into a home. The didn’t kill strangers. They didn’t evade capture for 7 weeks. It’s hardly comparable.

[@joannnelson9847]

This did not just happen. He has done things before. He sat in his car in that parking lot above watching them....this was highly planned.

[@markhumble3423]

Completely agree. From the first youtube drive through that parking lot has stood out. I'm betting on cell phone pings galore from it. Apparently the fantasy build up takes time. I'm no mental health expert but those uncovered bedroom windows just had to play a part in some kind of strange sexual fantasy for him.

[@khiem1939]

@@markhumble3423 True, odds are that at 28 he is also still a virgin since WHAT woman would want to have sex with that CREEP?

[@denisekoltys3019]

If the police could put his phone at the crime scene for weeks prior - we wouldn’t be here now because he’d already be back in an Idaho jail. This is getting crazy.

[@RobertMJohnson]

sort of like how the Columbine killers had killed before, eh?

[@catherinesanchez1185]

@@RobertMJohnson mass murders aren't the same and are usually perpetrated by people with a different mindset. for instance serial killers take pains to not get caught usually whereas mass murderers often go in planning on either killing themselves or dying in a shoot out of glory with the police. And not all mass killings are planned , sometimes a guy gets triggered about his pathetic life and decides to shoot up a Mcdonalds cuz he just happens to be there and the guns are in the truck . The fact that we now have guys with these tendencies frequenting websites where other guys encourage them to murder innocent people for laughs and to record it so they can watch and make commentary with popcorn adds a whole other layer of garbage to this cowardice.

[@michaelhawke3551]

The more I hear of this the more he seems like the real life Dennis Reynolds.

[@jenniferwebb5954]

🍻 🌃 Rennis Deynolds☀ 🛥

[@haleytruslow7200]

Oh my god 😂 He even looks like him

[@demri123]

Yep.

[@flylikeabutterfly951]

He was going to kill the other two girls, however when Kaylee screamed she spooked him - and that scream scared him. Kaylee unknowingly saved her two roommates.

[@DEARABBEY15]

There's no proof that she screamed.

[@shawnsmith11]

@@DEARABBEY15 yes there is

[@BabyT709]

@@shawnsmith11 where? Nobody said they heard screams

[@AFloridaSon]

Never believe anonymous people when they are just trying to feel like they are a part of a case like this. They could say absolutely anything.

[@edricawebb1578]

I don't believe there was a scream... because they obviously didn't leave in a hurry, or there would've been a trail/mess outside.

[@manunitedred8912]

I urge anyone to read the book called “The mask of sanity: An attempt to clarify Some Issues About the So Called Psychopathic Personality. “ It’s incredibly disturbing how the human mind can be twisted in such individuals. Evil to its core

[@peterbradshaw8018]

Was that Cleckley's book or Hare from British Columbia if he is still there. Cleckley was a Rhode's scholar.

[@RobertMJohnson]

should be required reading

[@manunitedred8912]

@@peterbradshaw8018 harvey Cleckley

[@thedragonlee76]

Reading some comments are interesting.His DNA was at the crime scene.They match his DNA through his father's DNA.His fathers DNA was in a database,but his son wasn't and that's why the cops took a little bit of time to know who did it.

[@AFloridaSon]

There's been absolutely no mention of DNA was used to consider him a suspect. You can scroll down to the interview that Chief Fry did yesterday on News Nation, and see that he says they cannot discuss whether or not they have BK, DNA until after he is back in Idaho, and officially charged.

[@Romans1.24-27]

Bingo...wonder what LE got his dna off of in PA? Tossed cup, plastic fork?

[@adithalee8660]

At first the sheriff said they had NO DNA OR FINGERPRINTS ANYWHERE AND THAT THEY HAD TO MAKE HIM GIVE THEM HIS DNA OR THEY GET A COURT ORDER. SO WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. They could have taken this man's thumb prints and DNA and planted it all over the place and say it was him. I'd easily believe it if I didn't hear the sheriff the other day say they had not proof he did anything and they wanted anybody to call in with tips in order to keep him in custody. And yes, the guy looks weird like he could have played a killer on tv but you don't arrest people b/c they look like someone from tv who could be a serial killer. It's suppose to be based off of legitimate evidence and not perception.

[@Romans1.24-27]

@@SnayMyName maybe..also bigger question is if he was in WA and wanted his dad to come all the way out there and help drive his white car back to PA 2500 miles..why?..dad involved in cover-up?

[@manager4409]

I wonder wearing gloves, mask, long sleeves, how much of his DNA was at the crime scene. You'd think hitting a shirt wouldn't get any skin underneath. Maybe she clawed his wrist or something, i bet he came very close to getting away with it

[@citizentrials8346]

The FBA agent is making it about women, when a man was also killed. Men need to take note of this misandry.

[@Joseph-xe1ry]

He was probably there for the women but the guy was in the same bed with one of them.

[@daniellebrewster5137]

BK has a strong creepy resemblance to Ted Bundy and the arrogance😳

[@NurseLisa_1]

This makes me never want to let my daughter go off to college, but it could honestly happen to anyone at any time. Our world is full of sicko's! Have some source of protection & keep it by your side 24/7! I used to think my husband was crazy for making me carry mine, but I never leave home without it now!

[@jamesfreeman2258]

Very few who commit evil towards others ever admit or take responsibility for their actions. He has harmed before, and now finally he has been caught. I believe this is the male who killed 4 people for no other reason than his ego & evilness. Make no mistake, these male serial killers,abusers, rapists are first cowards. That is the first characteristic of all killers, abusers, rapists.

[@rickyray2794]

Kind of a weird thing to say.

[@BeRightBack131]

Thank you for saying that! I'm a "true crime " junkie, so to speak, and that is the conclusion I've drawn after seeing so many stories of killers and their victims. The vast majority of the victims are weaker in some way... young women, old people, children, homeless, prostitutes, disabled people. Hundreds, if not thousands of hours I've spent reading, watching videos (interrogations, press conferences, actual trials, etc) and the one thing almost all victims have in common is they were somehow "weaker than" the killer. It's an extremely rare case where the killer chose a healthy, physically fit male victim. It does happen sometimes, but very rare,and when they do choose to murder a healthy male, the murder weapon is almost always a gun, and often, shot in the back. They wouldn't dare to try stabbing a man who could fight back. They are cowards, above all else. They choose little girls (Abby and Libby), 80 or 90 year old men and women, young intoxicated college students, etc. This guy would have never had the guts to face off with these students in broad daylight. No, he waited until they were drunk and asleep in bed to attack. He capitalized on their vulnerability, as do all murderers. Edit: I include abusers, rapists and pedophiles in that opinion, too. I've never heard of someone attempting to rape or abuse a 200 lb 6 foot tall, physically fit man (with the exception of Amber Heard types/ DV). Strangers don't jump out of bushes to sexually assault and abuse men in the prime of their life, that's for sure.

[@ranjittakanesan9915]

People should stop saying "oh his behaviour doesn't make him a murderer", "oh just because he looks creepy we cannot see him as a murderer",, the thing is these words make him to look saint but on the other hand police caught him with a solid evidence so I believe police have amount of evidence which is not disclosed to the public, chief fry even told in a interview that the evidence that led them to catch this guy only can be presented in trial and to be honest the words like telling him innocent actually is underestimating the effort that had been put by the LE to catch this guy

[@DaniE_Legal]

Wow. What a terrifying human.

[@smokyo7855]

This anchor is always so impressive. National news ahead

[@grannyvroomvroom2523]

"Was anyone else arrested"....as in his dad who potentially helped him flee arrest and prosecution by driving his son to Pa. Gee, that was difficult to conclude. SMH!

[@soysaucehairdye7869]

He probably stayed in Washington state until a week or two before Christmas. Remember this crime happened in early November and he was at his parents house in PA for Christmas.

[@rickyray2794]

"Was anyone else arrested" ..as in him trying to throw them off the trail.

[@edricawebb1578]

It wasn't in reference to his dad because his dad was there when he was arrested. I think he had an accomplice and genuinely wanted to know if anyone else was arrested.

[@keithangstadt4950]

Supposedly his dad coming to Washington and driving back with him on Dec18th was planned months ago.

[@olivi3339]

After his parents saw the car they were looking for matched his... His father flew out there, and drove back to Penn. with him.....

[@juliekrol]

No offense, but narcissism and aggressive behavior at a bar describes a lot of men…those aren’t ‘killer’ traits

[@mandyellis876]

They’re saying ‘no criminal record’ but this doesn’t mean he hasn’t committed other crimes and not been caught!

[@scaringthecheese]

How about a follow up on Daniel Robinson? The 24-year-old geologist in Arizona that went missing?

[@arcyarcanine]

Nothing to follow up lol

[@echoecho1913]

Once he's extradited it will be very interesting to see what other information comes out about the crime, the motivation and about the perpetrator himself.

[@aisle_of_view]

The drive back to PA with his dad musta been filled with Bon Jovi singalongs, counting the number of McDonalds along the interstate, photos with the Paul Bunyan statue in Minnesota...

[@Brian-zp1df]

Reflections of murder in those eyes

[@rosamoreno4794]

Nowadays society calls most narcissistic 😳

[@firee88]

I believe he has killed before this

[@Truthseeker88888]

Based on.... a personal feeling?

[@smith13514]

Very cool Michelle !

[@oeao2841]

This guy knows what he's doing...masters in criminal justice...covered his tracks pretty well...he's trying to play chess with investigators...I bet he drove from Idaho to Pennsylvania and tossed evidence out in the highway 🛣

[@katherinerex9067]

Clearly he’s not that smart enough! 😂 I think he’s just got a big ego

[@cowboy7170]

He knows he's going to get the DP via lethal injection.

[@cejannuzi]

Driving from WA to PA meant going through thousands of cams. He clearly wasn't trying to evade anything by that point.

[@RobertMJohnson]

he's so smart he got caught in under 60 days

[@vls3771]

Yes he got a degree but so did everyone else in his class and thousands before him . The rest of his life is a complete mess not so smart he knew he would be caught

[@lalipopz90]

He looks like the type that will drag court out as long as possible & smile at the victims families

[@elle_lovesgizmo]

Since that was a party house It wouldn’t surprise me if he had sneaked into one of the parties they were having & blend in all the while checking out the floors layouts so he knew just where to go.

[@elle_lovesgizmo]

Yeah I thought of that but I figured with everyone drunk, they wouldn’t notice. Anyone that is so that obsessed with someone, they’d go to any lengths to fit in. Just a thought

[@shelbytodd264]

I’m so happy they found who did this !! These people deserve justice . I am 23 and it breaks my heart that they had their lives taken from them at young ages. They aren’t very much younger than me …

[@kenamaro3942]

Really... you've personally viewed all the evidence, went over reams of whiteness testimony his dna data and viewed psychiatric evaluations on this guy. You must have viewed the crime scene along with the victims bodies. Because until he's proven guilty, he is presumed innocent.

[@jennifervanderhoof6001]

No crime goes unpunished!!!!! Rest in peace sweet Angels💛💛💛💛🌻🌻🌻🌻

[@willlazenby1050]

My lord, he used gloves?? We have a super genius on our hands. If this woman is in any way representative of the rest of the FBI task forces currently in operation, it just shows how utterly hopeless and incompetent they are.

[@mndlgh]

😂

[@mariee.5912]

Nah, I don't think he's a super genius. He'll crack too.

[@madeinussr7551]

Lmao

[@knad7365]

@@Tranqualthoughts Current ones aren't gonna speak to the media, that's why they're all former. Genius.

[@casparnigell5510]

C'mon, are you implying all murderers are dumb?

[@yimb8437]

So excessive flirting is a sign of someone being a mass murderer. Brilliant.

[@NinjaBooKitty]

Not excessive, AGGRESSIVE. Like wouldn't stop when they said no.

[@jturtle5318]

He has been described as aggressive towards women. A lot of incels are hostile towards women, who they believe owe them affection without them needing to make any effort.

[@Bravo-Too-Much]

A killer shows narcissistic behavior!? What a shocking reveal.

[@Helmy67]

You know... other killers are kind and caring lol.

[@cardslifer2828]

If he isn't guilty then I would expect the media to be forking over at least 900M to pay for what's been done here. It worries me that he's been labeled guilty and convicted by everybody before his first court appearance and before we've even seen any evidence yet.

[@davejones1064]

Exactly

[@vls3771]

It's normal not to know what evidence they have against him they won't tell anyone what they have that gives defence time to make a case against it you know that right.

[@Docdug]

What are the odds he represents himself…

[@creativegirl9710]

Just like Ted Bundy. I've wondered that too. His family is broke. He has no money. So it's either a public defender, or...I don't see and criminal lawyer doing pro bono. He's not a celebrity killer with tons of money. The rich killers that can afford a top notch criminal lawyer are the ones to worry about.

[@j.j.5731]

I'm sure if the authorities were to dig around the backyard of his childhood home they would find a few animal skeletons.

[@khiem1939]

I've been thinking the SAME thing since others like him have started with torturing and killing small animals! He is just NOT homely but looks EVIL!

[@Angelexpress3]

Dude looks like every bad guy in every danzel Washington movie

[@dollluv]

I think his DNA was on the victims not just at the residence.

[@margretsims1322]

Natasha has a lovely speaking voice; so important when listening to the News.......

[@Joseph-xe1ry]

She is better than the one getting Osama Bin Laden mixed up with Obama. 🤣

[@FilAmFarm]

Tasha is such a breath of fresh air compared to banfield, a much better representation for NN

[@markjolyn94]

Neither Kaylee nor Maddie could be prepared for a funeral and so they were cremated. He had been stalking them for months,as he was given a seatbelt ticket in that area in August

[@misha-lo9nx]

i was wondering that too about the girls' stalker, if that was him that just adds another level to this horrible situation

[@shashamarie4760]

But where is the connection???? 😒 I need to know? Why these 4 people specifically 🤔. Terrible

[@HoTrEtArDeDcHiXx]

Look who's talking about narcissism

[@monkeysluvdani]

I want to know if he has killed others!!! He’s too confident. This guy got a thrill out of this. There’s something more here than just guy angry because he was rejected

[@sd560]

Anger plus resentment at those girls and jealousy and envy against Ethan for his success at being in a wonderful, loving relationship drove this narcissist to brutally kill them all. Such a pathetic, lonely monster! #Justiceforthekids

[@scottbrown7071]

Fantastic expert and interview, thank you!

[@gemmalfirefly4287]

I hope they got the right man because being a weirdo is not cause for arrest 😂😂😂

[@DarkstarDarth]

Smart people don’t commit murder.

[@josetrevino2434]

HE EVEN LOOKS LIKE THE KILLER IN THE MOVIE SCREAM

[@gabrielleangelica1977]

It IS like a horror movie!

[@Vikingsmoke]

Hey let's get drunk and leave all the doors and windows unlocked.

[@ZIG.E]

Nobody thinks a perpetrators demeanour after an incident would change to be upbeat and happier !

[@rashone2879]

Not that smart since he’s now in custody…

[@karaElise330]

They linked him to Kaylee. That’s why her killing was more brutally than the others

[@Mixamaka]

If it's really him, is the police sure it's his first murder? I'm no criminologist, but... when people get caught it's rarely the first time.