Idaho suspect is ‘different than most homicide offenders’: Former FBI profiler | ABCNL

ABC News’ Linsey Davis spoke with former FBI profiler and ABC News contributor Brad Garrett about Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger’s profile and what may have led police to him.
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[@Matlacha_Painter]

I taught criminal law to criminal justice students for forty years. Over the years I had more than a few that were criminal personalities who enrolled in order to learn how to “beat the system”. Most of them dropped out resenting the underlying moral disapproval of crime inherent in the subject as they were criminals themselves aggrieved by the world. Read Yochelson and Samenov “The Criminal Personality “. This offender, while more intelligent than most, and narcissistic enough to think he could commit the perfect murder, was just another criminal himself.

[@distantraveller9876]

He's dumber than most criminals, just slightly more educated. Most criminals wouldn't need a PhD in criminology to tell you that driving away in your own vehicle after a murder is stupid.

[@jiyeonkim9862]

@@distantraveller9876 That part I just don’t understand if he was that smart and ran some whatif analysis. I heard the white elantra had a PA plate and was registered under his parents’ names. (May not be true) Perhaps he thought the car would not have been caught in any surveillance cameras but police found out about the car so he may have wanted to bring it to his parents’ house? But what about all the possible dna evidence left while he was committing the horrific murder? What made him look smart other than pursuing a PhD in criminology?

[@wetaswetwipe]

Do you think the hard work involved was also a factor in their decisions to drop out?

[@fightingcock6920]

@@jiyeonkim9862he’s book smart not street smart big difference

[@nancydrew1102]

@@distantraveller9876well said , doesn’t take a genius to say don’t drive your car there & back. Don’t hide evidence & trophies in your apartment. Clean your search engines , hard disk drive & cloud . Don’t talk you phone stalking victim or to the crime scene. Don’t wear gloves afterwards draw attention to you already weird behaviour. What genius!!

[@tishwitch]

I think the public is very very lucky that the FBI recognized that this murderer was very dangerous, and needed to be found before he had another opportunity. And they ran familial DNA testing. Phew. That's pretty uncommon for new active cases.... But it was a good call. This dude wasn't going to stop and he was a massive danger to society. High five to law enforcement this time! (Not every time.. but this time, they did amazing fast & effective work)

[@veronicadamico7976]

Absolutely

[@debrarolland1704]

That is what I said. The way he did this crime said he liked killing and would do it again.

[@davebrown4841]

LOL 😂, the FBI had Intel on the Boston bom..... bers and did nothing. Just like they had Intel on many of the mass shooters. So I wouldn't be putting the FBI up on the pedestal. And I really find it funny that you would think that the public didn't already know that this guy was dangerous.

[@tishwitch]

@@debrarolland1704 and killing 4 young active students isn't easy. And having 2 living victims hear nothing is scary... They knew this wasn't a good person to leave out in society, or they'd keep finding bodies. That's how I feel about this one, and whoever profiled this guy was on point. It may be luck but thank goodness for it! I hear he was happily giving out As to his students after the killings. He was on Cloud 9 - that's not a good sign. Someone who felt guilt would be drowning in depression. It's a good thing he's behind bars awaiting trial.

[@tinamartina1801]

FAST JOB IS NOT ALWAYS A GOOD JOB

[@allanthomas6097]

He's destroyed his own family

[@scooter2163]

True that but let's be honest, he did much worse to four other families.

[@lalo80adams71]

He has more juice than OJ Simpson...

[@SignusSig]

Just he

[@greenbeanz5914]

Who cares! 4 less MAGA fascists!

[@BovisStercus]

He killed four people.

[@jmonge2496]

That serial killer comment is so true- I wouldn’t be surprised if he was planning to do this again or has already done this before

[@jmonge2496]

@@distantraveller9876 trueeee! So wild of him to go all out of his first murder and kill 4 people- it’s like he wanted to get caught

[@mariee.5912]

@@distantraveller9876 agree!

[@lucasrem]

Did he do it, why you think so ? You know more ?

[@annabenezue5624]

@@lucasrem They found his DNA at the crime scene. They have video of him circulating around the area many times in his car that evening and prior to the murders. They have cell phone data to back up where he was as well.

[@lionelgrisbane-ud87]

You have no idea what his motive was for this crime, so there’s absolutely no evidence that he’d done this before or would do this again. Your comments are pointless until we find out the motive for this crime.

[@dlbstl]

This is how to flush your parent's hard earned money down the drain and ruin their lives, as well as the victims and families. What an utter waste. So very sad and heartbreaking.💔

[@studiosinger]

Likely took the gamble as a murder for hire.

[@harrisonkalmar335]

@@studiosinger why you say that?

[@JohnnyIP777]

Because he's a dipshit.

[@ingefriedbianca]

Criminals are issued from outrageously abusive families.

[@lepatron6195]

@@ingefriedbianca unless you’re a psychopath

[@scorch4299]

no wonder he did so well in college....he was being tested literally on his own thoughts! those answers mustve come easy!

[@StevenMichaelCunningham]

Suffice it to say he failed the study.

[@greenjupiter]

@@StevenMichaelCunningham exactly

[@StevenMichaelCunningham]

@@greenjupiter 🤔😶😶‍🌫️😅✨

[@stevennguyen4993]

Dude probably thought he could be the next zodiac with a criminology degree. Most forensics/criminology/criminal justice degrees are joke programs designed to teach high school students who are largely weak in math and science. People wanna make him seem as if he has inside knowledge on committing crime, but any dolt who studied criminal justice would know how sloppy knife homicides are.

[@Gangsterkitty401meow]

That’s so creepy

[@fartemisfartmallow8647]

He’s probably not different than most. He’s just an angry, rejected man, with too much pent up anger -dime a dozen.

[@k.t.8537]

Pretty sure he’s different than most

[@John-e4p1x]

@@k.t.8537 No, you can trust someone, on youtube, name fartemis fartmelloweater.

[@sasa6583]

@@John-e4p1x😂😂

[@anraenorman594]

Sigh, can the FBI put this guy on their radar? Empathy with serial killers on youtube is a clear red sign.

[@JamesHeller-if5kg]

@@kandykaye9981 why do you hope not????

[@kimmie2711]

Imagine the dad on that ride actually having traces of victim's blood on his shoes as a result of his son's actions unbeknownst to him is heartbreaking

[@ozzierabbit587]

"having traces of victim's blood on his shoes" reminds me of the "Craigslist killer", who wore shoes with blood on them from one of his victims to a police interview.

[@eugenieroyce3312]

Where did this comment come from?

[@sprinkles8288]

Interesting thought

[@rachelshoey7029]

@@eugenieroyce3312 right? its really random

[@Hellenicheavymetal]

Dang, that was deep.

[@Digilady99]

I was afraid they would never get the person who did this and the case would remain cold. But thank God like a New Year miracle, they caught him and he will face justice what he did. He probably honestly believed he could get away with the perfect murder... he thought wrong. Those poor kids didn't deserve this. He ruined so many lives especially the victims' families. They literally just celebrated the holidays without them. Imagine how painful that must have been for them.

[@johnr5252]

You sure it’s him?

[@Udontsay948]

Innocent till proven guilty?

[@Hunee-]

Never had a doubt that a suspect would be apprehended, although innocent until proven guilty. This type of crime will have some sort of DNA evidence. It was just a matter of time.

[@srishtijoshi5980]

@@Hunee- His DNA was found on the knife found at crime scene. Read in one of the news. He is for sure guilty, just the matter of proving it in court.

[@martinburns7928]

This case has those earmarks too practice patience. Unfortunately, Justice as other cases, where any defense was void, make a mockery and should be recognized as such !

[@MakeSmile]

What the hell was wrong with this guy ? It is so sad that 4 young people lost their lives because of this stupid guy Any punishment will be not enough for him

[@nwmacguy]

He's a psychopath, that's what. Rare, but out there. Just furthering his training at WSU. He'll likely get the death penalty in Idaho.

[@shooter7a]

He is a sociopath. These people are like reptiles. About one person in 40 is a sociopath...and about 1 in 40 sociopaths become serious/violent criminals. They have no empathy. They are not capable of it.

[@hannejeppesen1809]

He is not stupid, he was a student for an advanced degree. However, he is obviously very disturbed. Reading about how he behaved in jail, I would label him crazy, and of course evil. Just a laymans opinion.

[@somnuswaltz5586]

Lol easy there, turbo... the guy is anything BUT stupid, if he's guilty

[@bblwarrantydepartment981]

He is a incel

[@nahlejdrappah6231]

I feel bad for the dad who flew out to Washington because he just wanted to help his son get home for the holidays.

[@sdriza]

can you even imagine? the poor father's slow realization of what is happening? probably originally happy to have the family together for the holiday

[@allanthomas6097]

@@sdriza i feel bad for his wholr family

[@leluthor5357]

Id like to think his dad started with a fear that turns out into suspicion once he flew and met the suspect. Paternal instinct always matters. I bet the dad has had it in mind but was just afraid to ask the son whether he was involved. For some reason it didnt take time the father knew.

[@malcriadamedina5358]

@@sdrizathey're not realizing anything. The family thinks they have the wrong guy

[@joesmith9216]

Nope, he's the mind control daddy, all planned, fathers are the head of cia families and the programmers.

[@ruthmelicharles5062]

Intelligent. Confident. Good upbringing. Decent family. These things do not take away that he has been arrested for a gruesome crime that stole 4 lives.

[@jackdonovan554]

Wouldn't it be creepy if he actually wanted to get caught? Like he was more interested in seeing if he can win in court. I'm glad the investigators kept everything quiet for a bit. And I hope they have all the evidence they need for a conviction.

[@ktkt1825]

I feel they would not arrest him at all unless they felt their case was very strong- strong enough to convict.

[@stephaniezuiewski5940]

My thoughts exactly.

[@louisliu5638]

@@ktkt1825 Jack's point is that idea that maybe he WANTED to get caught. Like a businessman that WANTED to fail. I worked for two of them.

[@ktkt1825]

@@louisliu5638 Yes, I see Jack's idea. I don't think he wanted to get caught, though. I believe his preoccupation with killing came before all his studies- immersion only fueled it. He attempted to evade in many ways, but made several significant (rookie) mistakes.

[@Martin-pb7ts]

I spoke to a cop once in South Africa. He told me that he can't believe how often criminals leave identifying information at a crime scene. I'm not talking about a tiny amount of DNA found by an expert either. They often left their ID book at the scene of the crime. In SA you get an Identification book when you turn 16. Very much like leaving your passport at the scene of the crime in the US. The cop said it wasn't even rare.

[@Darlathegp]

I’m not sure if Bryan truly understood how widely covered this crime was going to be. It’s the kind that everyone is going to remember for the rest of their lives.

[@MeatCatCheesyBlaster]

I’m sure that was his intention

[@Candyland7198]

That’s probably what he wanted unfortunately.

[@ssing7113]

This is the life of social media and then internet… and mixed with a very attractive woman 😂😂😂. That’s the only reason this became so big. If it was some ho bums it would have been forgotten in a couple weeks

[@codymerritt9751]

Na I'll definitely forget about this for years and years to come till it pops back up on my KZbin. It really wasn't that bad of a case compared to other serial killers. Not saying it wasn't gruesom

[@martinmi5]

You would be surprised how many people have never even heard of the Idaho killings.

[@daybraeburn6172]

Kohberger is disturbingly calm. I think an innocent person would be screaming "I am innocent"!

[@andycraig7734]

In his graduation video, he's emotionless as he collects his diploma. Everyone else is smiling.

[@josephgriffin2388]

Sociopaths generally have low emotional connections. Riding across the country with good old dad, after what he'd done? No emotion... sociopath.

[@ssing7113]

Right. I would be telling the cameras I DIDN’T DO IT! You’ll see!! He’s guilty as sin by that walk.. you don’t act that way if you literally didn’t do it. You’d be shaking your head and making statements

[@casparnigell5510]

We're all different in our reactions. His reaction doesn't mean anything. There is no "set way" that people should react.

[@mbmonkey1]

@@josephgriffin2388you don’t know he did anything.

[@emilygotowiec3846]

Does this guy sound a bit like Steve Carell or am I way off?

[@LisaMitchellGD]

Omg Youre right it's Michael Scott Don't drop the soap Bryan !

[@priyas7358]

Yeaaah😲

[@michaelmarks9002]

Hear it. Michael in a corner

[@Rico401Prov]

Wait…what!? 🫢

[@amclaudet]

Lol yes

[@Eva-Marie77888]

Watch his eyes. Condolences to the families,may the victims rest when justice is served.

[@mikejejenich7116]

Justice served ? This country’s legal system is a joke…… hes gonna get 3 meals a day. And cable tv. In a arabic. Country. They would have cut his head off….. and not waste millions of dollars. On a bs. Trial. Theres a reason. In arabic countries there crime rate is % is 5. They dont play there……. In this country. You can murder someone and get away with it. ( oj Simpson). ( caceee Anthony). (Killed her child). Got away with it !! Parkland school shooter. Shot and killed more then 14 people. Hes in jail getting 3 meals a day…. This country legal system is. A joke ✅

[@rayne7340]

He has evil eyes. It’s like looking at satan

[@DJ-zt2ml]

Eyes of evil

[@josephaulisio9281]

You know nothing of true evil.

[@blah-yv9cv]

@Joseph Aulisio wow so deep bro, wow you're so cool. Fucking dork

[@millennialme9578]

I can’t imagine what his family must be going through right now. I suspect many sleepless nights await. My heart goes out to them.

[@ThatAlleyCatsBack]

Who cares about his family?! You sound ridiculous

[@Thornspyre81]

They are behind him, It appears they believe him.

[@bryceharper446]

No winners here, except for him. If he did it he imagined if he got caught. He has no idea. Life over for him too.

[@bdub-er5090]

His family seems suspicious actually. The dad, mom, sister, have done some weird stuff

[@christianhernandez726]

what about the families of the victims?

[@gatestimonymiracle1302]

This is what happens when you focus too much on the wrong thing. You start to become it

[@sm7657]

Very wise point

[@skaetur1]

How many children are abused by church men?

[@ImUrZaddy]

@@skaetur1 up in the millions, truly disgusting

[@3BGamersHD]

@@skaetur1 who says church is good

[@wendi2819]

I disagree to an extent. His predilection to want to do others harm for his own internal reasons came first. It seems more rare that an alledged offender of this type would have this level of degrees in criminal justice. Not even Ted Bundy was a post grad. student. ( Chicken or egg)?

[@leewilson9226]

The judge in the Ted Bundy case said he was an intelligent young man and could have really accomplished something with his life had he chosen to go down a different path. It seems like something that could be so similar with him having been so well educated and so much going for himself. And it's almost hard to imagine he would have done something like this.

[@buggyboogle9]

The problem I believe is that serial killers and mass murderers are being glorified. These people have some sizable amounts of followers and they just love the fame. Saw a true crime episode recently of two young brothers, who murdered almost their whole family, and were set killing more people, but were caught before they could carry out their plan. Police interviews show no remorse and court appearances show revelling in the attention. Their aim was to be the worst and most famous offenders. For them, that is the accomplishment. It’s years later and we are still talking about Ted Bundy. The Netflix series on Jeffrey Dahmer was one of the highest streamed of 2022. I don’t know what motivated Kohlenberger, he appears to be very stoic, but this is case is garnering worldwide coverage, and you just wonder is this what he wanted and sadly, who else is being influenced by this. He didn’t have to sell anything, he didn’t have to build up years of gaining followers, it’s instant fame/notoriety.

[@sopyleecrypt6899]

Having intelligence and academic ability doesn’t protect people from being a narcissistic douchebag.

[@ssing7113]

Doesn’t matter. They have the gene to kill. Why do you think most of us don’t walk around killing people. Because we have no urge. Tendencies. Thoughts to. Idealizations…

[@skatingcanuck9837]

@@buggyboogle9 The fact there is a successful show about Jeffrey Dahmer says it all. I was at an optical store where the associate said their most popular request is for Dahmer style glasses! 😖

[@feilongfan]

@@buggyboogle9 The problem is some states have no death penalty

[@edification567]

He's not going to be a "different" offender before a judge and jury!

[@ssing7113]

Happened to Casey Anthony and OJ…. Let’s hope this is different

[@fabialvarez13]

If the case is strong this is not going to be another Casey Anthony.

[@joemama-lq9yx]

@S Sing the OJ case got side tracked by the racist cop that somehow found dna where nobody else had. And then the expert said that the bloods splatter didnt make any sense. Toooooo and very important, im sure the whole part of Nicole sleeping with some random dude played a role into it.

[@11-1LOVE]

Considering the lack of evidence i think he has an even better case than casey anthony.Hopefully they find some dna in his car or phone records or smth...

[@drakereed9537]

As determined by a real judge and jury as opposed to internet comments - he may or may not be found guilty at all.

[@Arizona_rider]

DANG!!! He’s a freaking celebrity now. He’s going to have marriage proposals and book deals, have his case in every law enforcement training class. The list goes on and on.

[@scottjeune154]

Cant have a book deal

[@chengyang9487]

Well he took that criminology class to the next level.

[@michaelmarks9002]

Method Learning

[@sdriza]

hands on research

[@greenbeanz5914]

Who cares! 4 less MAGA fascists!

[@trentw.3566]

No longer needs to wonder how it feels.

[@joelincolnlincoln6315]

The killers and criminals called him a poser. Now he fo real

[@Leo-mr1qz]

The deadness of his eyes screams PSYCOPATH 😱 to me!!

[@andrewz4537]

I don't know if he's guilty or innocent but he's already been tried and convicted in the court of mass media and public opinion.

[@wqv5423ln]

Thats a free country! He'll have a trial & jury so why all the fuss?

[@bleuskye8124]

Andrew Z * exactly

[@nillyk5671]

@@wqv5423ln Free? Where?

[@wqv5423ln]

@@nillyk5671 the USA

[@prometheus23c]

Sorry but that court of public opinion argument is meaningless. People posting on social media will not send this guy to death row. The jury will look at evidence and testimony. And as in a huge majority of cases this is what will guide them as they decide on a verdict.

[@Michelle-uh7qi]

This is a lesson to humanity. Evil hides in power, religion, education and a cause, Be viligiant!

[@micahknox3902]

Very good point, all information provided so far is from government officials and wannabe rich. No actual evidence only proof and there is a very significant amount of difference between those 2 words. Idaho is not in anyway up to grade to handle a case of this magnitude and will be swinging in the dark trying to get people to think otherwise

[@uranusfrwasp6894]

I really hope this isn't a casey anthony case again.... We all know she did it, common sense wise. But physical evidence wasn't there, or at least the way it was presented. She would've been convicted of something if the lawyers had given the jurors more options.

[@rowyourboat5361]

don't worry- they've got the goods on him and he'll be found guilty.

[@shshshaa9114]

@@rowyourboat5361 you don't know that stop it.

[@hayleyjones7227]

The problem with the Casey Anthony case is there was no crime scene no DNA evidence, it had been so long before they discovered her body the prosecution is left with not much but computer searches and her lack of reporting/ habitual lying to build a case

[@scorch4299]

nah, hes done for. they didnt arrest him on a whim. sounds like they have dna, matching car. even a probable motive with his major and study....its over for him.

[@uranusfrwasp6894]

@@scorch4299 They didn't arrest Casey on a whim either. But too much got out and so much time had went by she had time to build a case. Hes waiving extradition to be able to find out what they have against him. Hes enjoying this. He went to school for this, this is what hes wanted all his life.

[@GrowingDank42]

Imagine if this dude is completely innocent and they have the wrong man

[@barneyronnie]

Very possible. Cops nowadays are like keystone cops. Many are stooges.

[@ktkt1825]

I doubt he will be able explain how his DNA was found on a knife sheath on a victim's bed at the crime scene.

[@kultofbunny]

@@ktkt1825 It could have easily been planted. It makes no real sense how it got there anyways. Did he carry it around in his hand after each killing? Give me a break!

[@esotericdoll120]

@@kultofbunnyplease tell the class who it could have been planted by? like you sound really slow right now 💀

[@esotericdoll120]

@@kultofbunnyand it wasn't just the knife sheath that placed him at the crime scene. common sense is not common

[@timinla64]

Nobody has ever called me brilliant, but even I know my cellphone tracks my every move. PhD candidate, huh?

[@samallardyce2522]

this case being covered nationwide right now. good luck in finding impartial jury

[@PuffKitty]

🤷‍♂️ I could listen to evidence objectively and make an impartial decision

[@mollypittman1776]

I’m from Idaho and I could be impartial. I want the facts. And we don’t have the true facts because the case hasn’t been presented.

[@aClownBaby-]

Nah, Depp v Heard proved to me that it doesn’t matter how much one side has been in the media, jury can always be fair.

[@Homengineer-artist]

It has crossed my mind, would he get a fair trail.

[@Homengineer-artist]

@@PuffKitty well right now, just saying your innocent until proven guilty, gets the public angry, in this case.

[@maheshnandre2745]

My Guess 1. He had a connection with girl. 2. He got rejected by her. 3. He targetted her for revenge by stalking. 4. He planned and done with cold blooded. 5. Others are collatoral damages. 6. He dont have any shame. 7. DNA , Cellphone signal and data on phones Girls , his computer ,cellphone and camera is the evidance.

[@maheshnandre2745]

It seem my guess was right

[@C.P.C3719]

He probably wanted to play a game of cat and mouse, testing himself against law enforcement. Probably thought that he was intelligent enough to get away with it and the scary part is that he knew the system worked cause he majored in it

[@lucasrem]

did he do it ? CIA people needed a guy ...?

[@2Stavroula]

I agree. The guy took criminology to get away with the murders. He probably was already nuts before he started studying it.

[@HappyLife-vh2ey]

To those trying to Understand . We never understand what we are not !

[@RSTI191]

Got news for you- we are and continue to be for a long, long, long time.

[@littleboots7629]

Actually and unfortunately murderers and serial killers are not always the stereo types that people believe they are. These are the murders that go unsolved.

[@louisliu5638]

Like Bundy this guy was incredibly lucky: two others in the same house kept sleeping.

[@peacewillow]

interesting note: that car had a pennsylvania license plate on the night of the murders. he didn't register the hyundai in washington state until november 18th. just another weird detail in this crime. 🤔

[@patt2415]

Hmmmm weird. Thanks for the info

[@Whitedove6]

Damn it !! That's proves right there it's not him or the correct car if what you say is the truth 🙄💔🙏

[@tarincarr9399]

@@Whitedove6 it originally had Pennsylvania plates the night of the murder . On his way back to Pennsylvania him and his dad were pulled over 2 times . On 12/18 I believe he changed the plates and registered them in Washington!!! That right there is suspicious

[@tarincarr9399]

@@Whitedove6 the news team looked up the plate number and then got the vin number on car fax and it showed his car had Pennsylvania plates up until 12/18 ? Why all the sudden change plates when he got back to Pennsylvania to Washington plates

[@Spiritualpanda2]

@@Whitedove6 vin says its the right car

[@Jaq365]

It strikes me that the various law enforcement agencies and the media should be EXTREMELY careful about 'convicting' him as the killer before his trial. Do we want this whole thing to end up in a mistrial? Choose words carefully people!

[@wqv5423ln]

We all know he'll get trial by jury! Why all the panic?

[@MrJohnnyDistortion]

SHUT - UP!

[@julesjay424]

That’s why a gag order was issued

[@innocentnemesis3519]

@@julesjay424 besides, plenty of people don’t obsessively follow true crime 🤷‍♀ if you’ve seen the traffic bodycam footage, it’s looking like BK injured his right hand/wrist during the attack… won’t be hard to convince a jury that the guy whose blood is on the victims is the attacker.

[@julesjay424]

@@innocentnemesis3519 it definitely looks like there are injuries to his hand. 100% agree. Judge issued a GAG Order. So idk how much we are really going to find out

[@Plane-tw9xz]

This dude didn’t lack intelligence he lacked human emotion.

[@8176morgan]

Gotta admit though that the way he carried out those crimes lacked intelligence. No one with any crime smarts is going to leave a knife sheath behind at the scene of the crime because it could possibly implicate him. But he did and it did implicate him. You would think that he would know that but obviously didn't. So now his life, like the others he took away, is essentially over.

[@Plane-tw9xz]

@@8176morgan he did it to get caught trust me for him it’s about Being seen

[@8176morgan]

@@Plane-tw9xz Could be he subconsciously felt a lot of guilt and thus made sure he would get caught. It has happened before -many, many, times.

[@Plane-tw9xz]

@@8176morgan yep agreed what I don’t understand is why he went through all those years of college and graduated then just decided to murder 4 kids? Makes 0 sense to me at app

[@8176morgan]

@@Plane-tw9xz Not to you, nor me, nor the multitude of people who have become fascinated by this case. Hopefully, the truth will come out if he is found guilty and makes a full confession, perhaps as a plea bargain in order to avoid the death penalty.

[@olgatrilogymartin3143]

He not only shamed his family he destroyed a community

[@jamesdennis5796]

I'm wondering what role the dad played in this? I think he was involved. When the son was arrested he asked if anyone else had been arrested...very strange question...and the dad was with him in the getaway car.

[@draco2xx]

after hearing this discussion, criminology is quite interesting not only that suspect doesn't strike me as a murderer goes to show you anybody can be anybody

[@ozzierabbit587]

Do you think he was interested in killing before his criminology education, or could his criminology education have acted as a catalyst for that behavior?

[@beckiehastings1589]

Plenty of criminology students out there don't commit crimes.

[@D18-q4m]

Both

[@amberc2058]

Sublimation

[@vindonnaamoruso2499]

@@beckiehastings1589 That you know of . Maybe they’re just better than this dude at getting away with it lol Jk jk

[@usaslastresort1126]

“Interested in killing”??? This guy has most likely already killed before!!

[@roser8911]

He’s different because he’s doing his research for his criminology

[@snortypig596]

So many of them have law enforcement ties or fantasies. Plus Ted bundy was also a law student. He more typical than different.

[@nenamichelle]

@@snortypig596 yes, exactly. You will find that a lot of these murderers tried for a career in LE. Many can’t get past the psych eval and end up working in security.

[@atheistbewildered2987]

he will have an opportunity to further his studies in prison. He would be fascinating to study

[@atheistbewildered2987]

@@nenamichelle Exactly, many LE applicants are found to have ASPD and rejected. So they get security jobs.

[@nenamichelle]

@@atheistbewildered2987 yes!

[@jqpublic1630]

What disturbs me as much as the murders is the assumption of guilt rather than the assumption of innocence. That is truly horrifying. Maybe he did it, but thus far there has not been much evidence released. Also, that “evidence” has not been subjected to any scrutiny. Hate to point out the obvious, but from time to time, law enforcement make mistakes, just like anyone in any profession. Seems the only evidence the public needs to convict this kid is that people think he’s awkward and that he “acts smart.” If he were dumb and social, I guess, most people would support his right to be considered innocent until proven guilty.

[@DoctaBuzz]

They found DNA evidence from him at the house, and camera shows him leaving the town that night.

[@jqpublic1630]

Maybe. First, the image you refer to was taken from an iPhone, through a window, and shows a blurry white car. (One has to ask why someone was taking a photo at that time of morning of a passing car, but whatever.) It does not show the suspect, but perhaps shows the make and model of the same car he has. (Some eighty of that make, model, and color are registered with the U of Idaho security alone). Second, that house was a revolving door of people, a fact well documented by multiple police visits in the months leading up to the murders. Was it hair? Was it blood? That makes a difference. You don’t know. Neither do I. That is the data. Perhaps there is more. Maybe that DNA was recovered from under the victims’ nails. Perhaps that photo was of his car. (Still doesn’t prove he was driving it, just that someone was driving his car at a time that corresponded with the presumed time of the murders. The “exact time of death” is not quite that exact.) As I said, I don’t know if he did it. This vigilantism is a bit much. The jury won’t just “cancel” him; they most likely will vote to have him executed, IF the State of Idaho proves the case. I just think maybe waiting a bit to see is a good idea. As I said also, “Not much evidence released.”

[@inafield143]

Did he not yell in his jail cell at the guards, saying, I cut them, I'll cut you too?

[@jqpublic1630]

@@inafield143According to another inmate, so….hard to say. I imagine that person would have to be cross-examined and there would be supporting witnesses, if that was true. I would be surprised, however, if he was not charged there for threatening law enforcement, if he did that.

[@Steve-rc1ug]

Law enforcement said his stay was uneventful. Which means the other two individuals who said he was acting out were liars. If he’s guilty, justice will be served. At this point, I want to see hard DNA evidence before I make any judgment. And that’s what all of us would want if we were the accused.

[@michaelchristofore2046]

If this guy turns out to be innocent he should receive a billion dollars for the slander. Dude hasn't been found guilty yet.

[@thunderbolt1359]

Just like OJ. 😄😄😄

[@xeridox]

I love how the media is so involved in helping people formulate an opinion. Like they are soooooooo good at. Like everybody says good luck finding an impartial jury at this point.

[@SamanthaDarko90]

I mean look at how big of a media circus the Casey Anthony trial was & they still found her innocent… even though she wasn’t. 🤷‍♀️ anything could happen!! You would be surprised how many people don’t even know this happened. I’m in southeastern idaho and half the time when I mention anything about it nobody even knows what I am talking about.

[@Grimmibo]

Bro. His literal fucking dna is all over the crime scene. That’s all a jury will need at this point.

[@lissabee49]

Just because YOU can't be impartial because YOU heard something said by someone who doesn't have all of the facts does NOT mean that other people have the same issues as YOU do. There are lots of us that do not automatically believe things we hear other people say without proof that what they are saying is true.

[@tishwitch]

Oddly enough you can put crime all over the news and some people still voted for Donald Trump and Casey Anthony is partying it up with her Netflix money... So I believe in humanity being generally impartial. Jury selection is intense. Bias can exist in a lot more than your media exposure. If you've been a victim of violent crime, you could have a bias, for example. There's a lot of factors to consider, and 2 sides of highly trained lawyers to figure it out.

[@sgrvtl7183]

I have said this many times - media blabs too much, conjures up scenarios - many times Silence is Golden

[@blakeveracruz122]

“I’m not like other murderers 💅🏼✨”

[@DAC666]

Some author or authors are already writing a book about him smh . Crazy world

[@tinamartina1801]

😄

[@Sky_Blaze]

Anything for clout and $...hate this world

[@ssing7113]

We’ll prolly not a renowned author. You mean a self published Amazon title 😂😂😂 If not. I guess they deserve the credit if they are really through in the research and development of the book and people buy it. Tons of books on killers…

[@kenwilson6850]

What is smh? Suck My Hass?

[@terywetherlow7970]

Having spent time with him driving across Country, Dad never saw any signs of murder brewing??

[@biologylover3360]

No words can describe the pain this has caused us. I couldn’t take this how someone can have nerve to stab innocent ppl when they are completely helpless. RIP for the lost souls and may justice prevail. I🖤🖤💔💔

[@ssing7113]

“Us”. There were four people who were stabbed to death. We are not one of them Separate reality with idealizations….

[@WrathofArminius]

@@ssing7113haha. You already said what I came to say. Good on you mate! Lol.

[@ericaasantos-tello7937]

@@WrathofArminius no frs. It hurts US to see innocent people die, nothing compares to the pain THEY went thru and their family are going thru.

[@WrathofArminius]

@@ericaasantos-tello7937 ok. You’re an empath probably. I won’t ruin that. Right on Erica. Don’t be jaded like me.

[@WrathofArminius]

@@ericaasantos-tello7937 … Frs means for reals?… cuz I had to look it up, and it gave me Federal Reserve System, and Forces Retaliation Squad… and those don’t make sense so I sounded it out… phonetically… furrrrzzz. Furrrrealzzz?… dunno.

[@ysiml]

From a criminologist to a criminal 🥺🥺 those kids didn't deserve that

[@user-xg3uy6hq9g]

and those murdered by cops don' deserve to brutalize by those supposed to protect and serve us.

[@connoryork6631]

@ቬ Cry baby black. Your "community" is rotten to the core.

[@_CatBug_]

If he is the confirmed killer, it'll be surprising because he'll be one of the few well educated murderers actually caught. People dissappear and are murdered every day and nobody is caught. These type of people exist and are very smart. 100% this isn't the first time this person committed a murder. This was too perfect and 4 people for your first? Nah, there would be more mistakes and the murderer wouldn't be that calm.

[@michaelmedicworldoftanks33fps]

Seems a bit odd that father never asked son "hey what were you doing in Idaho?" Especially after seeing all the news and police searching for white car

[@chrischildress5431]

Who said the dad watched the news?what makes you believe the dad knew he was in idaho?

[@Shadowboost]

Didn't he go to grad school close to Moscow?

[@tourdedogue4952]

He lived in WA state, not Idaho. Why would his dad connect that?

[@RoadTripzz14]

Not odd at all. Washington State University is about 10 miles away from the crime scene.

[@ryancuda45]

@@RoadTripzz14 he ate at the diner and was stalking the girls for sure

[@Max-qk3xi]

If “ in order to think like a criminal you must become a criminal “ was a person

[@spicerc1244]

It’s so odd that all the reports are ignoring the detail that there was a surviving roommate left alive in the house.

[@HughJass-jv2lt]

I didn't know that 🤣🤣

[@dextermoore278]

Bryan looks terrified. I hope they got the right guy. Let's see ALL THE EVIDENCE.

[@elguerofoo388]

Oh Jesus, you probably think the vaccine is killing ppl too huh ?

[@scorch4299]

he looks exactly like the person I thought he'd look like. I thought hed be a bit younger, but wasnt off by much.

[@dextermoore278]

@@scorch4299 I had no idea what the Suspect would look like. I just knew that it wasn't any of the Jack Guys and that he would be anywhere from 25-35 years old. That's the age group for most Serial Killers.

[@lenturnbow8038]

I hope to never experience the terror of these students or the pain and anger their families are experiencing. My heart breaks for them all. Having said that, this suspect deserves due process and the best evidence. Back in 2015, I was stalked to my back yard and stabbed. I lost so much blood that my heart stopped. Were it not for a paramedic that arrived just in time, I'd be dead. My attacker collected samples from many pools I dripped and for the next few months planted my blood samples at various of his other violent crimes scenes. I had many field interviews with law enforcement. They were not amused. They did good, solid investigative work though and the bad guys suffered. If Bryan is our guy or if he conspired with the actual stabber, lets be rid of him and his co-conspirator(s). If this isn't our guy, we really really need to know that, too.

[@wariannn1253]

Really ? With that low key smirk ?

[@blueridger28]

I wonder if he was one of those "I can commit a perfect murder" kind of guys. If so,I didn't work out very well.

[@scorch4299]

if he was in criminology, youd think hed know about geneology testing and know that he cant afford to leave any dna... he obv wasnt that careful...and even if he leaves some by accident , set the place on fire.. jesus this kids an amateur!

[@amandaandbug4914]

@@scorch4299 or he has cooked up some other explanation for the DNA he intends to use

[@Itz_Ashley11]

This guy was asking to get caught so much for him pursuing his degree all for that to just go to waste

[@grantjohnston6152]

He probably asked one of the girls out and got rejected...he has the 'eyes of madness'

[@anastasiosadamopoulos4748]

How was he able to murder four people and know one tried to fight this guy. Four people in one house at the same time. No noise? No screams? No yells for help? Nothing to alarm anyone? I feel for their families at this time. The heart of man is inherently wicked and evil!

[@yellowblanka6058]

He was probably a highly socially functioning psychopath, and they figured because he looked like a normal guy that he was "harmless", he probably said/did a few things that were odd in retrospect that they overlooked because they assumed he wasn't capable of a crime like this.

[@annielatchman5160]

It is not shocking at all don't trust anyone still holds true no matter how the world may change we all should be scared to live in this dangerous world condolences to the family

[@gterrymed]

"You look into the abyss and the abyss looks into you." This is a classic NETFLIX movie in real-time; the kid studied crime and became a criminal.

[@jessebenitez210]

Yeah.That is why,God said.Get away from the presence of Satan.

[@gterrymed]

@@jessebenitez210 ❤ SO TRUE; we're in such a bonehead society where people don't "believe" in God; its not not believing the Sun is shining during daytime--the Sun is shining and God and Satan exists regardless whether or not you believe. The Rules will Always apply. Thanks Jesse.

[@Bauks]

I feel like they are making a mob of us....

[@kelleywyskiel3478]

So is he also responsible for the brutally tortured stabbed and murdered pet dog that had been found just weeks before these kids were also brutally found? I was convinced it was serial killer fascination practice for someone wanting to do this. ( I read too many crime novels) Also how did the dad never think wow they’re looking for a car EXACTLY like this one from the exact place my son was and he’s a bit of a creeper …. I’d be wondering

[@innocentnemesis3519]

I also speculate that this was BK testing out killing. The vegan angle was definitely unexpected, but it also feels like he’s a vegan more out of OCD/orthorexia than out of empathy. I’ve known people with weird and controlling eating habits like that based around “clean” eating. Even when I was vegetarian, it was mostly for the environment. IMO.. If you are able to stab four people in cold blood, you probably do not have oodles of empathy for other peoples’ animals either.

[@Spiritualpanda2]

Right? I dont know how anyone could be in denial even if its someone you love. I always have that level of distrust when I see facts presented to me.

[@tourdedogue4952]

My thought exactly and I can't get over it. Who mutilates animals like this? A fluffy little dog and a rabbit (if you didn't hear that one). Skinned and dismembered. It's sickening how many counties let these horrendous crimes on animals go without investigation or punishment.

[@amyd3464]

@@innocentnemesis3519 I thought you were going to say, "probably do not have much of an appetite". Being a vegan might make sense in his case.

[@tessgella]

I wonder how he did it "alone" doing it in one go to 4 people. That's unbelievable.

[@stasiasfriend]

Dude's a literal monster, apparently Kaylee was nearly beheaded...):

[@tessgella]

@@stasiasfriend he really is a monster. That's horrible.

[@amyd3464]

And in only 20 minutes

[@martybeckman5178]

My Heart Breaks for the 4 lost there life by this guy and My Deep Condolences to the family of the 4 life's taken too soon. I hope he tells the truth and pray he gets life or the death chair when he is found guilty

[@barneyronnie]

Innocent until proven guilty...

[@FourDollaRacing]

Our farts and dares go out to all of the idiots in the KZbin comment section... 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♀️

[@adrienneberkman48]

Unfortunately they use the chair there anymore but I hope they don't have stupid jorors like the Casey Anthony case 2 of the jurors were morons!

[@noahberndtson4170]

Depending on how Liberal the state is. They may not have the death penalty because it is “cruel” well what about the victims pain and suffering

[@jenniferbellinger42]

He is being tried in a pro death penalty state...If found guilty I hope he gets it...BECAUSE it will hopefully send a message to others ..I feel sad for his family ...this is horrific for many people

[@krishnamayimarianni8026]

I feel so sorry for his sisters, mother and father. Maybe they are suffering a loss similar to the victims parents.

[@cushe83]

How is it similar ?

[@Jade_902]

No

[@yrmthr]

Horrible but no way comparable

[@Bizarro69]

Ah yes, the living killer kid and the dead murdered kid, so similar!

[@lisev415]

Maybe? They are grieving too

[@AJSalasMusic]

this dude sounds exactly like Steve Carell

[@hopeyniguez]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@Windyhillart]

The prisoner on death row was pretty accurate in his assessment of this guy !

[@aBBy-pq4tx]

The way he nonchalantly went about his life after doing something so gruesome. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s unalived animals in the past or even unalived another person prior to this that haven’t been discovered.

[@Puddles777]

Criminals do not have a normal brain the brain and the mind are the same thing we learn that from E equals MC2 their brains are obviously physically deformed that's why their minds don't work it's part of the dark matter that's in the universe. They are unable to distinguish between good and evil they live only by their instincts they're not capable of thinking yeah they can read a book memorize what they read and pass the test that's asking questions about the book you read and you could get a phd but it doesn't mean you're intelligent doesn't mean you're smart. Intelligence is manifested in kindness understanding empathy compassion These things are attributes of God.

[@annabenezue5624]

I think I watched a video from a news group; not sure, but they said he is in a cell with someone or another prisoner asked him some questions about it. The prisoner asked why he did it. His response was; "I didn't do it" He has not appeared to be distraught, scared or effected by his arrest in any way.

[@Gøźəř]

Now, they need to find out if this was the first time he committed murder.

[@mygirldarby]

Yes, that is no doubt being investigated. Other police departments and the FBI will be looking through their unsolved cases. I have a bad feeling he might have committed other murders.

[@kyledavis635]

His attorney said earlier that Kohberger traveled to PA around Dec 17... I'd love to know whether that cross country trip was really pre planned a long time ago as his attorney stated. His attorney would have taken Bryan's father's word for that - there would be no reason for him to try to verify what his client told him, and it would actually be inappropriate to attempt to verify what Bryan's father told him to be true... The notice by police regarding wanting any information on a white Hyundai Elantra was put out on Dec 7. By Dec 17, Bryan was traveling across the country to PA. From my understanding he was going to return to WA for his studies. His apartment still had all his belongings so it doesn't appear he was going to move back to PA..?? Why would he drive across the country to see his family, when he would most certainly still need a car in WA? He would then have to drive it back across the country again, to WA, when he returned for school - likely by himself this time. Would have so much easier, and likely less expensive, to fly back to PA. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, and makes it appear as if the father flew out to WA to help him drive back to PA - within days of the police posting their notice on the white Hyundai Elantra... Just seems a bit suspicious.... On an somewhat unrelated note, I also would wonder whether the two stops by the police in Indiana were random - hard to believe this wasn't related to LE tailing him on the trip back to PA...??

[@ninadificil5784]

Perhaps Dad helped with the clean up ?

[@Lionheart1980]

Yeah, twice doesn't seem like a coincidence, does it?! I'm sure the undercover FBI agents had something to do with that as a way to see what was going on inside the vehicle.

[@duo7552]

It seems everyone is just going along with what his attorney said, when the fact is that the date on the cop cam stop in Indiana is Dec 15! They were already half way home to PA by then. Google Maps show Pullman-Moscow Airport to Scranton PA as 220 HOURS drive time! That's nearly 9 full Days IF to never stop or sleep. I think they got out of dodge by the very next day that LE was publicly announcing that they were looking for that Elantra!

[@TShirtAndReeboks]

What? It's not 220 hours of drive time! It's a two day drive. Look it up again.

[@duo7552]

@@TShirtAndReeboks Oops. I guess I was imagining him taking a bicycle. 🤣

[@w.w.9047]

I’m fairly certain this guy attended a party at the house where he committed the murders, was rejected by one of the occupants and then came back for his revenge. He seems to have had a track record of rejection from women so he probably snapped.

[@exitscreaming4637]

@0:37 I'm not sure where this man is , but I find the haphazard display of pictures, etc. behind him to be a little odd.

[@marylaczko6539]

If he had DNA at the scene . so did hundreds of other students who partied there, INCLUDING Jack Showalter. BTW did anyone ever get his DNA??. He was the first to leave town before anyone else even knew of the murders. There was plenty of evidence showing he had issues with women. Ask coworkers from Flatbread. He was kicked out of his frat for the same issues. He was an avid hunter.AND he was jilted by one of the murder victims. Lots of motives there. Unfortunately his family is connected and donates large sums of money to the University of Idaho. The family also lawyered up immediately after Jack got home.

[@impactodelsurenterprise2440]

Who would spend 4 days and $1.2K in gas to drive 2500 miles to return home for Christmas?

[@MyStupified]

These Public ancestry DNA database stuff is getting a little scary. Especially since we have to pay a company so they can sell it or give it to the police. This should be a big point in the case as to the legality of this practice. Not to say I'm defending any sort of criminal this catches but if we give the powers that be too much leeway with this stuff they'll start using it in ways we may not be able to predict.

[@audreyheart2180]

what if the culprit is his uncle, or his cousin (same DNA ancestry); who happened to have borrowed the car? what are the odds?

[@d4ever649]

They found a murderer after years because his great niece or someone did that DNA testing

[@MyStupified]

@@audreyheart2180 I'm sure by now they've had him submit a DNA sample that probably matched what they found at the scene. More to my point when I was a child my parents worked at our states crime lab where their role was to institute the new CODIS Database in our state and I remember them being upset calling it useless because it only works if you've been caught before. With people giving away their DNA the easier it is for the system to catch you. Right now its used on criminals but there's no telling who'll it'll be used against next. The worry is not so much the uncertainty of using DNA to place someone somewhere it's more do we really want the government to have the power to tell where you've been by a hair left behind. (even though they can already do that with phones lol)

[@audreyheart2180]

@@MyStupified it depends on all of us.. if we (majority and the elites) act out of fear - then it's all downhill - for planting evidence.. if we act out of love - then it's all uphill - for identifying missing loved ones - for catching unidentifiable/ uncatchable/ untouchable/ unbelievable criminals...

[@sedg03]

Apparently cheney and bush families really n truely believe their. Blood lines are special, different, and better and therefore they're ok to create a coup using mormons and they're supposed to be in charge of all our money while all become povertised. This was grem of idea behind the DNA tests.

[@earthrooster1969]

Is it just me, or does anyone else wonder how much attention such criminals get as compared to other 'news', including wars, weather calamities, major human crises...many maybe opting for such crimes that put the spotlight on them and that too in a HUGE way, where so many other people like media, police, legal system get working from where the criminal left off!

[@danstrayer111]

In journalism, this would be known as a "human interest story", as well as actual news. It's like the trapped coal miners, or the little kid fell down the well......they are stories which appeal to humans for the drama and uncertainty and horror.

[@signemarkuson1940]

Morbid curiosity

[@sedg03]

Lets.. talk.. climate change!!

[@mitsverdi5832]

Hopefully, his Dad will tell us the stops along the way, the possible dumping sites for murder weapon.

[@timeframehq]

So all that education didn’t stop him from being a big evil fool

[@josephk4310]

How bout he innocent until PROVEN guilty.... You presstitutes.

[@TheMadcowintucson]

Still innocent till proven guilty. I'm curious how this is going to play out if he pleads not guilty.

[@DaniMacYo]

I hope the parents don’t question themselves and ask what did we do wrong? Why is our boy the way he is? Some people are just born F’d in the head no matter how decent an upbringing they have.

[@averagejoe9040]

Most of these people are not born broken. They are broken by either their parents or society growing up. There's a lot of nonsense that goes on in our world, we're practically a lunatic factory.

[@okieoiogh8235]

Lol stop looking for likes. The parents could have a huge part in this.

[@okieoiogh8235]

@@Itz_Ashley11 I don't need to explain it to people less intelligent than me 😘 I'm sure you'd feel good riding on me though

[@Jasmine215100]

I did hear that he was bullied a lot as a teen-ager. Bullying can cause severe PTSD.

[@coreytoomey7579]

Imagine spending the rest of your life in prison and your family lives a thousand miles away and they can’t visit you. I find it hard to believe he planned this throughly.

[@r3tr0actiongamer24]

Simple, he's a psychopath and wasn't thinking

[@BH-xp8ic]

Wow poor guy, family can’t visit a serial killer what a tragedy

[@xojess11]

I just had to comment because that's actually a very good point. Perhaps he just didn't think he'd ever be linked/ caught? Idk. I'm just fascinated by this (tragic) case, great point though

[@112chapters3]

@@xojess11 fo shizzle. See you at da top

[@xojess11]

@@112chapters3 facts my guy stay hydrated!!!!

[@shawnmayer7849]

I think itnis safe to assume Kohberger has now failed his PhD courses.

[@PhilAndersonOutside]

This guy wanted to be notorious, well, he got it. But he didn't come anywhere near close to committing the "perfect crime" like he envisioned. He was more careless than Leopold & Loeb. Once authorities looked into it, he was easily apprehended. And I'm sure his case will result in a lifetime prison sentence. Plenty of time to think about how "brilliant" he is.

[@That1PlaceBehindTheBush]

WOW. It almost sounds like they arrested someone with VERY LITTLE TO NO EVIDENCE and are now TRYING TO FABRICATE A STORY around their NON-EXISTENT motive in order to say that they “got the guy” and “put an end to the story” How convenient. Sad for this man who’s going to be incarcerated for the rest of their life just to bring a sense of comfort to the victims’ families.

[@esotericdoll120]

y'all want this to be an innocent man so bad 😭😭

[@sgashner397]

According to the Carfax report, the registration of the car was changed from PA to Washington, 5 days after the murders. Daddy knows a lot!💡

[@cjjameswhosyerdaddy1538]

If he was travelling with his dad around the country, would it be fair to also look at his dad for any connection to killing?. I mean, where was the dad during the horrific attack if it's true this guy is the killer? Did he travel with him before or after ?

[@jacks4009]

I thought about this- but if he did the killings in the early morning the dad could have been asleep. You know how parents are, they go to bed early.

[@katiix]

I can't believe no one is talking about the girl that died prior to the murders in that town. She was found dead under suspicious circumstances in a shallow river, her cause of death was drowning. I saw a video of the area they found her & it's definitely suspicious, the river isn't a large river, it's very narrow & shallow. They even said it was suspicious but it hasn't been investigated further.

[@80sruler]

Why would you use your own car to go commit a murder in the age of cameras, leave DNA evidence then use the same car to drive across country ?? You don’t need a PhD in criminology to see that’s rather dumb

[@nanettealegado6190]

I think when he asked if there’s another they’ve arrested, I think he’s referring to his father. Hi dad knew he committed something or at least have an idea there’s law he broke because why fly and drive all d way to PA? Just book a plane and fly but he can’t because he needed to secure his car. The father can be a state witness if he had confided something to his father.

[@kenbob1071]

Dude must have missed the class on the day they discussed DNA evidence.

[@jacks4009]

Exactly! Also stabbing someone usually leaves so much more!

[@moorstring]

I wonder if the media will launch an apology campaign when they learn this guy is innocent.

[@g.quagmire7583]

Why do you think that

[@Thekennel177]

He’s not been convicted of anything yet.

[@marklavender77]

Dad flies all the way to Washington just to drive back with his son? That seems a bit fishy. Why would you fly all the way across the country just to drive back with his son like he is 8 years old or something? Then the girl who was awake (Obviously heard yelling and screaming and even saw an intruder who terrified her) and still didn't call the police until after having friends come over almost 8 hours later and then saying they are "passed out" when there would have had to be blood everywhere is not logical either Someone called police because she didn't want to check on her roommates so she had to know something bad happened. I don't even think the doors to her room mates were closed or locked and might have even been open if one of the girls was found in the doorway. You don't wake up to 4 dead bodies in the same house and randomly call friends over and eventually call police when its convenient for you because of a hunch that something bad happened after not calling the police earlier. I just don't see her story adding up and I think Law enforcement is already on to her and why she got a lawyer.

[@htiekokram87]

He hasn't been on trial yet why is the media trying to convict him 🤔 🙄

[@gamavidios]

Dint be stupid.

[@alannahwatts5778]

I’m interested to see what evidence they have against him. If the police got this wrong they have ruined this man’s life. Let’s hope they got this one right.

[@jackmiller4624]

They got it right

[@anon69669]

Interesting I thought the same thing about him when I heard that he studied criminology and lived a couple cities over away from the crimes. Perfect setup for someone to experiment with their homicidal instincts

[@codyzimmerman2582]

Theses "genealogy" companies will not hold up in court. The process of gathering and submitting DNA is anything but scientific. My mom has participated with two different companies, and they both gave her very different results.

[@mercoid]

100% They are BS.

[@Emmanuel_Rivera1]

If he drove back across country with his father, then I would question and wonder if his father had any involvement with this homicide and escape for his son? 🤔

[@catherinecrow5662]

Wouldn't Kohberger have know that his DNA was easily traced using the genealogy DNA out there, and I'm assuming it was the mixed blood samples from the crime scene. So, was Kohberger injured by his struggle with Ethan ? Did he not know Ethan would be there ? Did LE find the knife with some of BK's blood on it ? If he WAS injured would he have needed stitches & a trip to ER ? So many questions

[@missld6856]

Yea true he was pretty sloppy with the dna but don’t these type of psychopaths or whatever like WANT to get caught so that he could get the “credit” the sick notoriety that these sick fucks enjoy marinating in

[@nenamichelle]

He obviously didn’t go to the ER. That would have been one of the first things LE would check. 🤦‍♀️ Wait until the PCA is released and then some of these things might be answered. In re: to the knife, they don’t need the knife to get his blood. If he cut himself that blood could have been mixed in with the victim’s. If that’s the case that’s extremely damning evidence and there’s almost no question as to his guilt. And sure, he may have known it could be traced but he may not have known a family member was in a database. It doesn’t have to be a close family member. He also seems like the type who’s really cocky. May not have known/understood that frenzied killing with that type of knife often results in cuts to the perpetrator. Again, we will know more when the PCA is released but that could be a long way down the road.