Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen testifies at hush-money trial | BBC News

Donald Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen is testifying at a New York court in the ex-president's historic hush-money trial.
Mr Cohen alleges that the former president told him to be prepared for "a lot of women" who could come forward when he entered the presidential race.
It's alleged that Mr Cohen paid adult film star Stormy Daniels $130,000 (£104,300) to stay quiet about claims that she and Mr Trump had sex in 2006.
Mr Trump is accused of trying to cover up the payments he made to reimburse Mr Cohen by fraudulently recording them in his business records.
Mr Trump has pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records to conceal the payment and denies any sexual encounter with Stormy Daniels.
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[@flanthief]

"he has been using derogatory nicknames" my guy what has Trump been calling any of his opponents or detractors for decades. Anything but their god given names thats for sure

[@janmick9719]

you can't open an umbrella nor walk up airplane steps without toilet paper stuck to your shoe🤣🤪🤣👏🏼👏🏼

[@user-xk2ig4tc3f]

Suddenly the toilet roll makes sense Von Shitzenpants

[@wildandbarefoot]

He's a Shit-heel

[@judyscholten4643]

At least he can walk up the stairs not fall like biden

[@user-xk2ig4tc3f]

@@judyscholten4643 coveffe

[@jonnsonsam]

Why didn't you report on the judge freezing the 'illegal documents' case due to the prosecution lying?

[@alexbowman7582]

Or exculpatory evidence of Carroll definitely lying about Trump DNA on a dress being withheld from evidence in the civil case.

[@jaxonl7810]

Says the loser subbed to rudy 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@jonnsonsam]

@@jaxonl7810 Not answering the question? That's not the win you think it is. Muppet 🤣

[@mariannerady1137]

interrupting a proper interview for the rambling orange? Bad directive decision

[@ketoacid3393]

They could have have closed captioned his jabber, while the interview continued.

[@thisisanfield7085]

‘There’s 100,000 people trying to get here to protest but they’re blocked from coming’… this guy is such a shameless bs merchant. The stupid media just give him free airtime to spew his nonsense and bolster his supporters. What a crazy carry on.

[@Sarah-pr4sm]

No evidence? I have seen and hear'd plenty of evidence.

[@davidbybee9930]

no you have not

[@gracieroblescrosstherapy3972]

agree

[@johnrider4649]

@@davidbybee9930 Yes, WE have. Why haven't you?

[@garethholman1050]

@@johnrider4649 then proceed to explain. I too have seen evidence let's compare and see shall we?

[@skreety0455]

RUMP'S BIG MOUTH IS E V I D E N C E😂😂

[@robertgavin980]

Love the way his lawyer looks like he's about to soil his pants .

[@jasonfearnley1744]

When i pay an electrician i pay the electrician not a solicitor

[@ash7324]

He thinks he’s slick talking with little false equivalencies like that, but we can all see straight through it 🙄

[@therealtruth4898]

What a stupid comparison 😂

[@FirstOrigamiUnicorn]

Trumps position will be him touching his toes so everyone can see and hear clearly from where his ideas come from clearer to hear him speak 😅

[@orbojunglist]

You guys are all so eloquent, I bet this comment was a side-splitter even before the edit.

[@calumstewart7665]

Wow, unbelievable levels of intellectual idiocy going on here. So your argument for him being guilty is that he's talking out of his arse? Very smart of you

[@FirstOrigamiUnicorn]

@@calumstewart7665 Have you actually listened to him before 😳 😂 He has got form " Trump Ordered to Pay $2 Million Over Scam Foundation " 2019 lol

[@editor4578]

​@@calumstewart7665the original comment made no mention of guilt.

[@vicktor22222]

It's quite fair to suggest that, much like flies are drawn to excrement, individuals of lesser intellect tend to gravitate towards each other. When someone in a position of power exhibits traits of instability, narcissism, and a disregard for rules, it inevitably garners the attention of those who share similar inclinations. If this individual has achieved anything noteworthy, it's perhaps in highlighting to the world the absurdity of his character, consequently revealing the true nature of those who rally behind him.

[@geoffburton822]

You are a phony.

[@garethholman1050]

I mean you're the personification of the Dunning-Kruger effect by that statement alone. Lol

[@vicktor22222]

​@@garethholman1050I guess I'll take that as a compliment! After all, if I'm embodying the Dunning-Kruger effect, at least I'm confidently unaware of it! Maybe I should put that on my CV: "Expert in the art of blissful ignorance!

[@garethholman1050]

@@vicktor22222 I gotta admit I envy you somewhat because the deeper I've looked into things the more concerned I am as to what's coming. Of course it will catch up to us all eventually the knowledgeable and ignorant alike but at least you have a few more years of bliss ahead of you though.

[@beewa8840]

Why does he talk about himself in the third person?

[@Slechy_Lesh]

Good question. Perhaps a certain amount of unreality is part of life for him. Indistinguishable from business as usual.

[@thomasball7026]

Every time he opens his mouth is a lie

[@sissy-_-fnyc]

Cohen? Yes 👍

[@UNCLE401]

She wanted this rich dick he got the mick. happened, tooJOHNNY DEPP toooo

[@deeznutz8320]

Its in his dna

[@Pathan109ShortVideos]

This trial would be so entertaining if it was aired on live TV.

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

It is not intended to be entertaining. It is supposed to search for the truth that Trumpf hid behind a magic mushroom.

[@mindblown42069]

Agreed. Plus i think it would legitimately be in the public interest.

[@Thomas-fr1ww]

Not as interesting if the Clinton’s was on trial 😉

[@FirstOrigamiUnicorn]

Trump would be hilarious to watch though because he would have to keep up with the act constantly and he wouldn't be able to I bet 😂 he would spurt out something he always does

[@LindaDavis-iq9zj]

Most likely they are not airing on relief. Order to hault the Trump plague and allow some sense of PTSD relief.

[@cassiehannah]

No one's ever seen a waist of space like Trump run for president 2 times either..

[@annieallan4538]

Reading about "rigged jury" is a gag order violation.

[@geoffburton822]

Aren't you clever

[@alexbowman7582]

Rigged jury, rigged judge, rigged charges.

[@miamidolphinsfan]

​@alexbowman7582 no not rigged, tRump finally being held accountable for his criminal life. Now Chicago wants tRump to pay them $100 million in unpaid taxes...this came out of his other civil conviction. Everything he touches, dies or is a gift. A putrid excuse for a human piece of garbage.

[@scatton61]

So no evidence..... other than evidence of political lawfare.... again. Imagine my shock

[@killerrabbit2693]

How about the bank payments..? How's that political lawfare?

[@alexbowman7582]

@@killerrabbit2693it’s not illegal to pay hush money and listing it as legal fees is a time barred misdemeanour. It doesn’t matter if Trump knew. The Supreme Court will laugh this out.

[@killerrabbit2693]

@alexbowman7582 2 things. It's illegal to pay hush money using public funds. And these funds were used to keep a woman quiet to help your God's campaign. 2. Liking your own comment is pathetic.

[@alexbowman7582]

@@killerrabbit2693 how does it compare in terms of campaigning to Hillary Clinton paying $1 million listed as legal fees for the commission of the faked Steele dossier on the Trump Russian collusion hoax (the Democrats were fined $113,000 for election violation) which they pushed through two elections, an attempted impeachment and negative publicity despite knowing it was fabricated? And the Trump payment wasn’t from public funds it was from his own money. Trump Russian collusion was invented to deflect criticism away from Hillary’s stupidity of putting secret documents on a server which was hacked along with her emails. She deleted evidence smashing phones and wiping data and even laughed at a commission hearing over it asking “what do you expect me to do?”. Still she must feel she’s free from any chance of conviction in a DC courtroom.

[@edwardthomson7285]

All I want to hear is Twenty years in jail.

[@janmick9719]

atleast‼️👍🔥‼️🔥💋

[@geoffburton822]

You are deranged. Get help.

[@Thomas-fr1ww]

Won’t happen He will be in the White House next year 🤷🏼

[@olowoaye]

Lol. Why not 100 years?

[@spumemonk11]

@@Thomas-fr1ww Only if Putin help the treasonous rapist again.

[@darrenhopkins6829]

The BBC trying to convince us Trump is bad in-between propaganda to keep public support foreign wars is pure comedy.

[@BigHeart-wt1ff]

Pure fiction

[@algorasm2565]

Imagine thinking that knowledge of trump and stormy in 2016 would have effected the election when trumps numbers continue to go up with the full knowledge of it now

[@killerrabbit2693]

Cause his supporters only care about crimes that trump's opponents commit. His supporters are just hypocritical children.

[@ketoacid3393]

Is that Eric Trump in the back? Or people trying to be on tv?

[@phillipgoodyear4196]

This is the stupidity America has to deal with daily.

[@FirstOrigamiUnicorn]

legal expense I've never heard it called that before 😅

[@therealtruth4898]

Well you probably haven’t heard of a legal expense as you can’t even spell legal

[@FirstOrigamiUnicorn]

@@therealtruth4898 As Trump says what evidence do you have 🤣Kinda fits his case perfectly

[@lynnburlingham8160]

He is merely reading (barely) his ego boosting talking points scrounged by his minions. In future, don't give him so much air time. We're so sick of hearing his BS spewing voice.

[@mickcooke1]

😜 straight out off jail we’re he was sentenced for lying. 😝

[@Tyronepeader]

The Donald is going down hard like all Mob bosses should.🙄🤔

[@olowoaye]

Lol. Mob bosses indeed. Some people live inside their own imagination

[@thomasball7026]

Pathological Liar always

[@Sarah-pr4sm]

Thank you BBC News.

[@davashorb6116]

Thanks for focusing on the actual charges. It's too easy to lose sight of the actual alleged crimes amidst all the sex hubbub.

[@t1n4444]

Quite right. Trump's on trial for covering up payments to Cohen and calling them legal expenses. Why this Stormy Daniels was questioned about the sordid details was quite unnecessary.

[@godisrockministries.8608]

There's no charge Dear.

[@pbtraveler694]

it's all distraction because there is no crime----nothing illegal, nothing proven.

[@raydeemed]

The beauty of democracy is that people can decide to vote the person you dont agree with. Thats the true meaning of democracy, and you dont have to fear anyone being on a ballot 😂😂 let people decide 😂😂

[@Dragonmist1]

NJ ya we say the cround of 10 thousand 😂😂😂 and we saw people leaving early😂😂😂

[@danmcleod1360]

Failed spelling class?

[@jasondima1411]

Instead of threatening him just promise him jail time. He is a disgrace

[@corynixon66]

Oh that poor baby. Maybe he'll stop crying if someone changes his diaper.

[@annoyed3111]

Can we be friends?

[@alexwolf5930]

"Commander" lmfao. Guarantee you have a big fat beer gut. I'd believe you more if you had a dick and balls on your forehead

[@beewa8840]

😂

[@ozzygonzalez8350]

If he is so innocent WHY keeping asking for immunity and mistrial ?! I'm sick to my stomach

[@sissy-_-fnyc]

Did you see the CNN piece by Fareed Zacharia this weekend 😳 He answered your questions, but not the answers you seem to want!

[@garethholman1050]

Because it's a valid legal argument and may well end the trial earlier to both save him time and money. Time he could better spend campaigning.

[@francoisbeauvais6169]

you can see a doctor. a psychologist

[@sirnotable2893]

@@garethholman1050have you spent the last 5 hours of your life replying to KZbin comments

[@garethholman1050]

@@sirnotable2893 nah, I've been watching episode 3 of Terrence Kerrigan at the same time.

[@fastwheels195]

OK, he was Trumps lawyer and he paid an expense in the legal service of Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump paid his legal bill. I honestly don't see am issue here.

[@davidgraham8058]

Maybe you need to educate yourself on the details of the case.

[@BlueBonnie764]

Ya, ya, ya, ain't it 🆒 😎

[@PulseNews-gu9fe]

If you ask the question "Where in the body do you feel yourself?", most will answer that in the upper body. Mostly in my head.

[@Jflowers8800]

The phone call isn't in the head listen to the call,. That was Trumps what to get to the White House #Cohen paid with a check that was his mistake. Trump told him to use cash..

[@donkintz281]

BS

[@caroleparker6084]

Is this guy kidding? Having a go at Cohen for making up derogatory names? 😅 Trump is the king of making up derogatory names; Pocahontas, Sleepy Joe, Crooked Joe, Fat Alvin, Sloppy Chris Christie, Lying Ted, Crooked Hillary… give me a break!!

[@JonDow-ow2fc]

Don't forget Trumps favourite " Premature Putine" 😅

[@caroleparker6084]

@@JonDow-ow2fc 😂🤣😂

[@dave_n8pu]

Glad I can fast forward past trumps BS.

[@tmackie1694]

Same!

[@mrn8645]

You still searched and clicked on an article about him though!

[@zuluvegans6897]

Greetings everyone and God bless. From Ballito, South Africa 🇿🇦

[@shihtzusrule9115]

Is that an accurate quote from Fareed Zackaria? So good of the BBC to give Trump a spot like this.

[@cliffordlesley7746]

New Jersey 100k. Trump 2024

[@jasonfearnley1744]

He should speak at his trial if he thinks this is true but he wont he hasn't got the balls

[@janmick9719]

excellent post👍‼️🔥🔥🔥

[@davidsimpson4046]

He’d get torn to shreds. Doesn’t stop him bragging that he will testify, but he’s a coward

[@sausagesoda4090]

Trump lives in these comments rent free💯

[@Chano601]

Trump used his own money and got indicted??😂😂

[@phillawrence5148]

IKR, pathetic BBC didn't mention that though

[@skreety0455]

MICHAEL IS A STAR!!❤❤

[@user-xu9ib9cd6d]

Should be locked 🔐 up already

[@robertgavin980]

What a word Smith trump is, never repeats himself, and he knows how to use his bottomless lexicon, uses his tongue like a Komodo dragon. --- probably smells like one too.

[@Sarah-pr4sm]

I don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

[@garethholman1050]

That's just an admission of your ignorance. So... okay.

[@Thomas-fr1ww]

Doesn’t matter what you believe You’re irrelevant Trump will be in the white house next year 😉

[@editor4578]

​@@garethholman1050you win today's non sequitur award.

[@garethholman1050]

@@editor4578 oh no, I was very much on topic.

[@editor4578]

@@garethholman1050 so you don't believe my inference.....how ignorant! And please don't offer some nit picking excuse to distract from your double standards.

[@kevinellis8947]

Michael Cohen has receipts. That's how now know he's not lying.

[@leebottrill4044]

Trump by name, Trump by nature. The guys a comic genius!

[@davidcarbone3385]

about 2500 people in jersey maybe only 1500 on a beautiful say at the beach

[@VigHjaelp]

Interesting he keeps on lying. No evidence what so ever....

[@Sarah-pr4sm]

Tape's and paper trail ,hav'nt you been watching.

[@annoyed3111]

Cause you’ve been in the courtroom every day since the trial began? 🤣😂🤡

[@davidbybee9930]

@@Sarah-pr4sm the tape was debunk as spliced by da witness..

[@davidsimpson4046]

@@davidbybee9930erm what?? 😂😂 according to Fox News and Q

[@wildandbarefoot]

50 Shades of Orange...😮

[@maxasaurus3008]

The Golden Toad reposed on his lily pad of lies and the petty dreams of peon flies. 🐸

[@mitchelld8069]

Thanks for sharing all of that and you had her at adult diapers.

[@helensmith2411]

This is obviously a weaponised attack, you guys are in full panic tds mode 😂🤣

[@davidgraham8058]

The people with TDS are the ones like you who blindly support Trump no matter what he says or does.

[@godwintakwi4351]

KZbin shows the number of likes in posts. Why don't they show the number of dislikes?

[@drummingtildeath]

It would be hilarious if Trump got acquitted, then managed to delay all his other trials... and then lost the election and had to face the music.

[@alexbowman7582]

The Jack Smith secret documents trial has been postponed indefinitely whilst the Georgia trial has been wrecked by Fani Willis. If the Georgia trial does eventually happen then it will be closely orchestrated to prevent the defence proving in court that it was indeed fraudulent. Trump was winning easily until mysterious stops at many counts followed by very late surges in mail in ballots almost all for Biden.

[@zmitmail]

BBC pushing the message

[@killerrabbit2693]

The message being...

[@BigHeart-wt1ff]

Not one he likes obviously....lol.

[@user-nn1vk4rt8n]

And lied like a rug. To funny

[@SteveLamberts]

Why does anyone want to hear Trump speak? It's always the same nonsense.

[@skreety0455]

We need to establish why Melania is absent.😂😂

[@user-qt7nq5xl1m]

Rich people don't go to jail and this is a waste of taxpayer dollars... I hate djt and would love to see him incarcerated just for his personality alone. But this is a giant waste of everybody's time

[@geoffburton822]

"...Trump's inflammatory language"? You people are hopeless.

[@user-pc6co9ho8x]

Sorry I can’t listen to his BS Bye BBC

[@hahaokaywhatever865]

Seeya

[@MrFancyFingers]

Oh no, what will they do without you?!

[@Sarah-pr4sm]

What's wrong not Trump enough for you. Try FOX if you want fantasy island.

[@t1n4444]

Yes but it's only BS to yourself because the BBC doesn't subscribe to the narrative you believe. If you truly believe you know better then why not tell us why and then we can take a view on your comments. Can you explain your views and provide proof? Of course you can't.

[@annoyed3111]

You poor poor snowflake😂🤣😂 cope

[@Roland_Tr909_Swing]

Who gives a shit in the UK😂

[@bonnienewcomb5001]

So they have someone testify that has already lied under oath how many times, This is a shit show

[@polygonalmasonary]

Trump literally is sh💩ing in this show 🤣🤣🤣🇬🇧🌈🙏

[@garethholman1050]

@@polygonalmasonary strange then that the feds refused to prosecute this because it was too weak a case.

[@richardjenkins9138]

Rikers

[@skreety0455]

YES! THAT'S PAR FOR THE COURSE!!😂😂

[@skreety0455]

LOVE THAT JUDGE❤❤

[@davidsimpson4046]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaa - Donald Trump, 2024

[@FirstOrigamiUnicorn]

He did the same with stormy apparently after his premature arrival 😂

[@CarlWicker]

i not sure why you post this word salad. prosperity I guess

[@prastish1]

Why is he be given air time? Shut him up forever

[@user-hn5ww1pl4e]

This guy thinks that its a popularity contest. He never understood his presidential job. For him its just a show. In his case it became a comedy show unfortunately or like he says fortunately. Not only that, usually, rich people give to the poor. In his case, its the poor that's giving him money. Have you ever seen this before?

[@garethholman1050]

I mean... it kinda is... that's how democracy works, the people vote for the candidate they want. True, first time around he let the deepstate derail him. He didn't really understand. I'm sure this time around he'll clean house though, especially given how blatantly fascist the current regime is. Thanks to Elon and the twitter files. He's given to the poor, both time and money. He's always buying food for first responders. He helped a mother with terminal illness even personally writing to her. He has ensured that her son will be looked after when she's gone. Look beyond the mainstream lies and learn. You need to leave that echo chamber behind it does you no service.

[@geoffburton822]

TDS make you ugly

[@lillianflorance5650]

All lies

[@rainerzufall42]

Why do you give Trump a microphone for these obvious lies? Bad journalism!

[@francoisbeauvais6169]

how michael cohen can tell another b...shit.he told too much he should. a crook is a crook.

[@not_glad]

Don't let someone defend themselves lol. You'd go down well in Russia and North Korea. Even the Ted Bundy's and Charles Manson's are allowed to speak. Aside, it really don't help your case saying dumb stuff like that.

[@geoffburton822]

Only a machine could make such a stupid statement.

[@rainerzufall42]

@@not_glad Trump doesn't defend anything, he just lies. No true word, not worthy of televising it. He's got the constitutional right to defend himself in court, so why doesn't he do THAT instead? Because on the merits, he's a lost case.

[@editor4578]

​@JohnAnders-hk9dhget another sh*t joke.

[@maureenkilbane9948]

he lied for t-rump

[@michealgee2394]

COPE

[@susankelledy]

Perjurer

[@marktaylor4496]

Don The Con sounds tired and samey.

[@garethholman1050]

Only to the foo,ish though.

[@BigHeart-wt1ff]

Have you heard his hot dog Hannibal Lecter rant at his last rally? Comedy gold.

[@rondaleistiko1227]

Blah blah blah

[@neckbone6976]

😂😂😂😂

[@user-xu9ib9cd6d]

Yellow man😅

[@thasannagulathasan5730]

Donald Trump coming president 👍

[@ClarkGreen-gi6ds]

WHY WHY DO YOU PEOPLE (MAIN STREAM MEDIA) CONTINUE ALLOWING HIM AIRVTIME????

[@garethholman1050]

Because he has every right to air time.

[@GroovyVideo2]

Poor . donald

[@skreety0455]

I CRY SO HARD😂😂😂

[@Thomas-fr1ww]

@@skreety0455it ain’t over till the fat lady sings kid , 😉

[@samanthachapman8025]

WOKE CHANNEL

[@buunkahasancade-fe3yr]

Magalado shidatay😂😂

[@AlexanderBunting-lv7ky]

Positive for covid

[@godisrockministries.8608]

I thought they said he has dementia but why is he reading so sound and healthy 😊.

[@ozzygonzalez8350]

How do we know what he's reading it's true to me, anybody can type and print whatever we want to say

[@godisrockministries.8608]

@@ozzygonzalez8350 Wow is your democratic mind so so dark towards Trump, what is the reason for this shameless Hatred towards a person can you logically tell me

[@Dragonmist1]

​@@godisrockministries.8608January 6

[@annoyed3111]

“God is rock ministries, huh?” Tell me one characteristic of Trump’s that resembles Jesus Christ? You so called Christians have no idea how much damage you’re doing to the effectiveness of the gospel to those that need it most, all because of your blind support of an amoral, evil, self absorbed liar.

[@Anthonycapone8146]

I know it's hysterical when they say that about Trump, but then they'll try to defend Bidens faculties!

[@JB-rt4mx]

Why the accent ? 🤔

[@clearfield2009]

I am now forever never watching your “news” platform. The most air time you should have given to trump spewing his lies was a possible second. You just gave him Millions of dollars of free advertising as he sells his propaganda. You are an embarrassment to journalism.

[@garethholman1050]

How so? Is it only propaganda when it's the other side or, is it simply because, like any fascist you desire complete control over the media and suppression of voices opposed to your own? Me, I say show it all, let us make an informed decision hearing all sides. You? Well... you know what they say... sunlight is the greatest disinfectant and you fear that light of truth and need it shut out.

[@thiduynguyen7584]

Trump not Good 😂😂😂!

[@chrisj2502]

Hush money was paid, but the prince Andrew story still broke.

[@senwor]

Why show Trump complain! Bad video

[@genericaccount343]

Otherwise the right wing would complain that the “woke BBC” is being bias.

[@Kuskash]

I am a simple man. I see woke BBC I dislike.

[@annoyed3111]

What does woke mean? Please enlighten me

[@genericaccount343]

At what point in the video has the BBC been biased to make you believe that ?

[@garethholman1050]

@@annoyed3111 in a nutshell far left cultural Marxism.

[@garethholman1050]

@@genericaccount343 look beyond simply one video, the truth will come to you if you search for it.

[@garethholman1050]

@@jamesarnold7253 you seem to be confused between cultural Marxism and Marxism. Marxism is class based oppressor v oppressed. Cultural Marxism is cultural based oppressor vs oppressed. It's the same critical theory under a different attack vector, such as race, gender etc...

[@abberepair8288]

Im tired of listening to trump lie. When you are going show him talking. PLEASE give me a warning. I will not watch!

[@TenaciousDmitchell]

Trump's signs of desperation are getting so obvious. I'm gonna love seeing him being carded away with his orange jumpsuit heading into jail.

[@pgandulfo1]

❤❤❤❤TRUMP💙💙💙💙

[@skreety0455]

STORMY 2024❤❤❤❤

[@petersieben8560]

Awe, poor black cat ... we all pity you

[@edlewis4975]

Just how much money is the judges daughter making off this trial asking for a friend?

[@jacquelinephillips1608]

NONE

[@edlewis4975]

@@jacquelinephillips1608 you are a liar we all know she’s making money

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

Illiteracy attracts Trump.

[@reneefiredup]

I hope she’s paid well for her talents. Her job has nothing to do with this court case.

[@edlewis4975]

Four more years pause

[@UNCLE401]

Wack the monster lair , Johnny Depp went through stuff like this, when at the end of it all the monster still made money