Forming ARABIA is TOO HARD in Victoria 3

You'd think that Victoria 3 would be easy. However, Victoria 3 Arabia is actually a really tricky formable nation.. mainly because the Victoria 3 AI wouldn't leave me alone and would continually make my life miserable. Fortunately, we are able to finally form Arabia starting as Victoria 3 Egypt - we're even able to make it to great power status. ALthough, does anyone know why Victoria 3 Austria is SO OVERPOWERED?
Forming ARABIA is TOO HARD in Victoria 3
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[@Ale-tx1qj]

"Did I just accidentally advocate for genocide?" I found that's not an uncommon question to ask when playing strategy games👀

[@goranpersson7726]

it just happens to be the easiest way to solve just about all issues you encounter in strat games

[@crystllclr3743]

It is effective lol

[@efulmer8675]

I did a game as Serbia->Yugoslavia and I was constantly thinking up Serbian war crime jokes as I rushed towards chemical warfare to annihilate my enemies. Those poor Turks and Austrians never stood a chance.

[@Ale-tx1qj]

@@efulmer8675 I'd say that's the one correct way to play the game, so well done :)

[@PA_Sword]

Me, casually pressing 20 diplo culture conversion clicks to stop Paris from rising up every 3 years....oh wait wrong game

[@forresterscalan3921]

I almost formed it once but one of the middle eastern countries starts in Britain's market that you need to form it.

[@johnuthus]

my with line infancty and mobile arty fighting off every eroupean country thorughout my game I still won every battle

[@grigss3027]

@@johnuthus let me guess, expert offensive planner and expert defensive planner in 1 general?

[@Xcyiterr]

skill issue? (joking)

[@baleada2100]

@@Xcyiterr */srs

[@johnuthus]

@@grigss3027 nope, i picked ones that didnt have those.

[@zhop951]

I think I understand why you were getting so much turmoil, I had a similar problem in my Sweden game. Unprofitable buildings pay low wages, and decrease standard of living for people working there, your average standard of living can be fine, but the people working in those specific buildings are basically starving. For me it was the fishing wharves that usually had the problem because there wasn't any demand for fish.

[@napoleon950]

In that case it's impossible to find out unless you already know this thing exists

[@harrylion6689]

I imagine welfare and/or subsidies would fix the problem

[@zhop951]

@@harrylion6689 What ended up working was making coal and steamers less expensive and making more groceries (the demand for groceries wasn't that high, but it was better than the demand for fish alone), eventually I swapped to a council republic and never had the problem ever again.

[@zhop951]

So basically if you're getting turmoil for no discernible reason, check the buildings in that state, if they aren't paying good wages, that's your problem.

[@joelfilho2625]

@@zhop951 I think you should generally always expand groceries, clothing and furniture industries whenever possible, as they are consumed by all of your pops, as well as international pops through exports. Demand for them will never be "low", as all pops will buy them. When pops can buy those for cheap, they buy more, meaning their standard of living increases, meaning they consume more, meaning they buy more (etc.). Basically, keep the input goods cheap and keep expanding the "Consumer goods" industries for ideal profit.

[@gustavosanches3454]

Gotta love how building the Suez Canal, one of the most important achievements in navigation and trading history gives you literally NOTHING. Anyone who owns Suez or Panama canals should be making BUCK with that.

[@SereglothIV]

I haven't played Victoria 3, but I love how in EU4 every navy can just pass through the canals freely. Even nations that the canal's owner is at war with.

[@jordancantrell6598]

My first Paradox mod I'm gonna make is gonna be changing the photo for Lathes in the tech tree into your face

[@kingjamestres]

Laith secretly loves the joke that's why he keeps making it lol

[@kindadumb916]

Not a secret anymore

[@rottenknight4338]

1:16 HE RESEARCHED HIMSELF 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@glitchxero4687]

This reminds me of every game of Vicki 3 I've played. Me (an insignificant nation like Burma): "I'd like to take over this state for a meager increase in the power of my nation. It's already a vassal of Siam anyway." Me: *starts diplomatic play* Every great power, half of the secondary powers, and anyone I have a border with: "Let's gang bang the player everyone! I mean... No, we don't focus on the player, we're just _very_ interested in this state. Because reasons."

[@efulmer8675]

If they have an interest in you, declare a rival somewhere for the extra influence and then increase your relations with the GPs that have an interest in your vicinity.

[@MichaelBoyle514]

FYI one of the plays here is to vassalize as much of the ethiopia area immediately (for the gold), and then in the first war against the Ottomans after the truce expires, take territory up to the russian border aka azerbaijan. this puts you in a position to do a quick war vs russia for recognition quite early while their forces are still trash. Also, there's no urgency to take the iraq area territories because they're cut off from their supply so they're always going to be weak.

[@zigedelic3909]

The best way to get recognition is to *immediately* start a war for recognition + reparations against France or Great Britain and naval invade one of their treaty ports. Like, start the war before unpausing right at the start of the game. The chances of France or GB successfully landing an invasion on Lower Egypt is pretty low and can be easily repulsed by counter invading behind them if they do manage to land. The reason why this is easily the best play is 3fold: First, it gives you a great boost to your economy straight off the bat, which you can use to kickstart your industry without worrying about profitability. Second, the reduced infamy cost of bullying unrecognised powers means you can puppet (almost) all of Arabia and Ethiopia without going over 25 infamy. Third, if you hustle you can achieve Great Power status before the Ottomans try and take back Syria, which means you'll have far more maneuvers to work with in that first war.

[@purpledevilr7463]

Best opening play for Egypt is to vassilise everyone in the Horn of Africa while no powers have an interest there. Lot of gold. Good vassal swarm. No one to stop you.

[@johnuthus]

"no one can stop you" meanwhile my line inf with moblie arty beating skirmish and shrapnel eroupeans every ten years since i have 300 infamy

[@LaVaZ000]

@@johnuthus Yeah infamy went from being basically neglected to being lethal for smaller nations.

[@johnuthus]

@@LaVaZ000 yes but would you like to see an Arabian Eroupe?

[@cyrusol]

Not sure whether that's the best approach. It mostly just gives infamy for clay that's absolute and utter trash. I think doing a day 1 force recognition play against France, invading Guyana is the right play. Then you can open against Ottos with Transfer Subject plays and also grab what's needed for forming Arabia or perhaps even a bit more of eastern Anatolia. Or if you want still go for the Horn because as a recognized power you get much less infamy.

[@unsrescyldas9745]

@@LaVaZ000 Not small nations, rather unrecognized ones. as Egypt first day is to declare war for recognition, then bully the unrecognized for cheap infamy my favourite is to attack the chings and take beijing for that huge +25 percent to legitamacy, you can also eat away at japan for like 19 infamy for each province till they are small enough to be puppeted

[@davidrocksvideogames]

they might not have to make the warfare like hoi4 (bc frankly i actually enjoy the war system minus the bugs) but I think adding something like the corp system from no step back for generals in vicy 3 would give a lot more flavor and personalization of the military instead of just "here select from two people NO ONE ELSE", also, specialty troops for nations or bonuses is something else I would love to see

[@aaronsommerlade8610]

Hi laith love your videos!

[@lelocoBR]

To see turmoil you need to go over radicals and them over the total after a few seconds it is going to apear. If it does not you need to change the tooltip settings

[@wouldntyouliketoknowdeli7640]

Not gonna make a 'haha he's unlocking himself again' joke in this one, but what I will say is "Hum, did he record this video laith at night?"

[@griphyx3540]

Laith : I was about to swear also Laith : you son of a b- (for legal reasons the end of this sentence has been canceled)

[@endmostwheat5119]

"You can see them die in real time, that's horrifying..." No no it's progress

[@WERTYUIO821]

"Crete doesn't do anything but produce fish" ~Germany 1940s

[@TheLeperofJerusalem]

If you hold your mouse over the standard of living in the top left and then hold your mouse over the standard of living for a certain strata you can see what that strata wants and how much they are overpaying or underpaying for a certain item and then you can reduce the price of that item which will reduce turmoil

[@lordyoda607]

Laith really just forgot to build halfway through the video with full gold reserves 💀

[@space__idklmao]

he for gor

[@thePhoenixface]

Hey! I've loved your videos for quite some time. I find ya very funny, informative, and I like the games you play! You obviously have full control over what you make, but I was just thinking that maybe you could try switching the music up from time to time? It's not annoying or bad or anything, just a little repetitive.

[@patrickbohn5235]

Oh god this episode has some excellent Laith quotes

[@Lunaboops]

You couldn't find either Kars or Dobrudja as you didnt have interests in the Caucasus & Danubia regions, you just aren't able to take things outside of your strategic regions. Edit: and ofc I typed it before you realised it in the video... oops

[@efulmer8675]

37:30 Laith when a building is too large to be profitable at full employment it will get into a cycle of hiring/firing people, and every time a pop gets fired from a building it gets more radical. You actively make this worse by constantly changing your army type and army wages which changes all the pop demands in weird ways.

[@user-os2yp6ph2z]

I can already tell this is gonna be a great video, keep up the good work dude

[@sspinch]

so early the discord notif is not even there asdfghjkl

[@Zimojovic]

Hey there Laith there are som very interisting Alternate History mods for Vic3 : Basileos Romaniom, Neo Rome and Divergence. I hope you will try them.

You can stack Suez and Skyscraper btw. Just stop the game and build same time. In one of my games I had 25 Skyscraper

[@Q8iAB]

i remade the ummayads borders as hejaz some updates ago, idk if it would work anymore but i just crawled my way down to Yemen and took out all the small states in the horn of africa, got good enough troops to take out egypt, then it was smooth sailing from there

[@mantheman11]

Hedjaz seeing itself being ignored by everyone: 😭

[@ahmadyousif2131]

Laith, if you go to red radical number up top, wait for it to open, hover on the annual change in the menu, you can see why your people are angry, due to discrimination, unfulfilled political demands or decrease in SOL.....etc. Also if you go to the SOL number up top, wait for it to open and then hover on the SOL number in the menu again, you can see what your people are consuming and how much they are paying for it compared to the normal price.

[@bunjection]

for the radicals, just hover on the radical count on the top of the ui and hover on the increase/decrease amount. you cant check why it happens in a specific state but you can check why they exist

[@jip5529]

I actually really liked the rebuilding the economy! Great video as always, am really enjoying the victoria content!

[@Rodvard]

I don't know if you figured it out yet, but when you form the Suez canal you can then create the Suez canal company which gives you £50K income and tons of prestige while it's 90% full. Moral of the story, don't take the British £30K offer to build the canal on your land!

[@captainamerica_ny9642]

Vassal swarm is the only way to go about this just puppeting one after another cause they’re so small

[@madddd1]

Crete isn't producing fish, it is a stronghold of believers in cod 🙏🐟

[@medllensaimon1015]

Laith don't worry many of us would give you any kind of wood you want

[@doubleskulls]

50:30 you can't claim Kars etc because they are in different strategic regions and you didn't have an interest in them (Danubia & Caucausus IIRC)

[@simearsov]

I learned one lesson when I entered Starbucks and tried the coffee. That lesson is don't ever enter a store like that ever again. Who even enjoys their coffee? Have those people actually tried coffee before in their life?

[@schmarron9914]

I'm excited for the next video. The papal states are my favorite country to play in this game

[@MisterODark]

Finnaly not a video on the middle of the night

[@makiskanyt9269]

HE IS FINALLY GOING FULL EU4 "CULTURE CONVERTION"

[@Gamerblam]

5:18 My god that made me laugh so much 😂

[@cynicalautist1774]

You can actually see why people are radicalising or becoming loyalist. Hover over the number of radicals and loyalists, and you'll see a tooltip which says something like "there has been an increase in [insert number] radicals over time". This number is red in the radicals tooltip, green in the loyalists tooltip. You can hover over this number and it will give you a breakdown of why people are radical or loyalist. One of the best ways to increase loyalism and decrease radicalism is through economic development and liberalisation (or just going communist and doing worker co ops). If you can increase the standard of living of a pop, that pop will become loyalist. If the standard of living decreases, they will radicalise. One of the most important laws to pass is the "guaranteed liberties" law under home affairs. This law increases the amount of people becoming loyalist through SOL increases. One of the reasons Thrace kept being in permaturmoil, is because there was a large section of peasants who you were not giving jobs. You can increase the SOL by fully employing the province. Whenever I conquer a territory, I do so for an economic reason. The provinces I conquer have rescources that I need. At first, people will radicalise from conquest, but if I swoop in every time and build a lvl 60 oil pump, they will stop being radical. Another way to decrease radicalism, admittedly rather expensive tho, is introducing wellfare. Wellfare is something that will go to every pop who needs it, which in turn will increase their SOL, which in turn deradicalises.

[@tpalmer4757]

1:13 Laith, You reasearched yourself!

[@tpalmer4757]

3:34 Laith, You unlocked yourself!

[@TheCoyote808]

Having played an economic Austria, can confirm that if you have free trade, forced open all tbe major markets, get treaty ports wherever you can, and have the largest customs union on the planet, and suddenly have to go protectionism to prevent a massive communist uprising you can crash the global economy. It sucks. Went from 1.8B GDP to 350M in less than a month...

[@saintbread5080]

Wow, the laith joke was really good!

[@KiwiEmpire4640]

It's funny to pause the video at the very beginning to look at Laith's face

[@doubleskulls]

and the easy way to beat Russia, get a war goal on Alaska and take it, he won't defend it and will peace out if its the only territory to concede. You can combine that with war reps & force recognition for a very easy win.

[@linkhidalgogato]

25% of the population are radicals: "i just dont understand why i have so much turmoil"

[@saulrios9714]

I watch every single videos of yours, I look forward to them... But get some sleep!!

[@e_ffx]

This is really good, love your videos.

[@Xcyiterr]

1:12 hey look laith, you're unlocking yourself! you can't convince me that this isn't still objectively hilarious smh /j

[@mozeyad4573]

doing it as an Arabian gulf nation is damn near impossible. (except maybe Hedjaz)

[@mrSaber79]

Did some quick math. In order for that Napoleon to be Jewish but less than 0.01% by ancestry you'd have to have exactly 1 full blooded Jewish ancestor 15 generations back (about 300-450 years ago depending on generational gaps) but literally everyone else is 100% not Jewish. All I'm going to say is... he kept VERY good records of his ancestral lineage.

[@danielr3587]

Can you play in Arabia next time? Or a nation in central America or the Caribean?

[@thedanelord2329]

Good video keep op the good work😂❤

[@mr.frostvampier]

Montenegro has theocracy at the beginning.

[@maddogbasil]

Laith: "I'm going to wipe out the Sunnis..." Tunisians: aims gun *"Go on...."* Laith: "By putting them under me"

[@Tarzaon]

hahaha"Gimmy Wood" classic

[@misterperson3469]

You probably just missed it cause you were tired but you were sitting with paused construction on a huge unspent investment pool because you were barely building stuff that gets investment under agrarianism

[@luisboissonneault1499]

0:40 Unite Laith, Unite.

[@minecraft_by_oz]

Here are my favourite youtuber quotes. A large population we need to reduce that.-Laith - the social streamers. WAIT WHAT DID AMANDA FLATTEN WOOLLY.-DanTDM. WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87.-Marckeplier. NYOWOI.-Grian.

[@TheRealqiqi]

Did I just accidentaly advocate for genocide -laith

[@user-se6kc9wc4o]

I never knew Crete was under the Egyptian part of the Ottoman empire

[@aidansmith2814]

Day one: laith Bhutan world conquest

[@jakobschwarzenberg5529]

i'm 99% sure that the radicals came from not fulfilling political demands, those do stack up over time and they stay radical even if the political movement disbands

[@Belisariuslover]

Ma Sha' Allah!

[@Atanar89]

Why are uou pointing at Morocco/Algeria/Tunisia when explaining what Arabia is? You very explicitly made clear that the region is still Africa.

[@connortheandroidsentbycybe7740]

Arabia ≠ all Arabs. He was saying those you've mentioned are part of the "Arab world"

[@Kyle_Schaff]

Still waiting for the Papal State theocracy vid (I think?)

[@realxinruz4064]

Bro making the wood jokes a little too much for it to be only a joke

[@petar_bibic]

Day 1 of asking you to play Serbia in Vic 3.

[@therenzix]

you can see the global amount of radicals and why their radicals by mousing over the radical # to the right of the population and to the left of the loyalists. From my experience its mostly SoL based so you have people who cant hold a job because they aren't in profitable buisnesses and if its not that then its government legitimacy, high taxes heavily effects it aswell. (at 38:23 for example you have literally 4m radicals and 100k loyalists). Those numbers actually mean something

[@jordengg3629]

He’s not using his authority and it drives me nuts

[@daiel1360]

People keep saying he researched himself but I don't get it. I forgot his name for a sec but it's at 1:28. I don't think he researched any Franks in the video... smh

[@djxero1]

You said what about Crete?

[@Jaqi45Official]

starbucks

[@trevorking7083]

Just start another crusade as the Pope

[@Itre1]

Moroccan GDP really slapping today

[@LSDuke23]

Is there a reason you waited a year to put in consumption taxes?

[@LuckyAJC]

I watch a lot of his videos but refuse to subscribe for the memes

[@mariapolemarchaki352]

I was two minutes in the video and allready got offended.why you disreaspect my island like that.😅😅😅😅😥😥😥

[@aleksandarmanojlovic4988]

56:18 omg 461 radicalism for that preserving monarchy and why the fuck intelligentsia wants that what happened

[@oracle372]

Haha Laith you unluked urself

[@DeTofuKing]

Great video. Get some rest lol.

[@pedronabais1456]

laith you still keep building wya too few construction early game you had like 3 spots on yhe first 5 to 10 years when you could have run like 30 half being iron and half wood

[@clarity984]

Wow you researched yourself

[@AqualandianHistorian]

Everyone who wants Laith to apologize for insulting Crete 👇

[@liamtan865]

Day 1 of asking laith to play more anbennar.

[@emib6599]

I can understand what it is that 0,001% jewish ✡ that the french guy has, or more probably that he miss.

[@dave77t]

1:14 You do know that isn't how that's pronounced, right?

[@divusmagister3623]

30:00

[@mohammedelwan4940]

Try to form arabia with Hijaz

[@patrickmexiquinn]

It's not that bad I formed with Iraq once, Indonesia is probably the worst one I've done

[@phoenixma1213]

Thank you but Plz repeat this game I'd like to see a good game with egypt thank you I mean it like this conquering Arabia and all of Africa

[@marinospronoitis6663]

what about grecce

[@danielx3669]

You can't take dobruja because you don't have an interest in the region

[@dylan__dog]

"even down here to a degree" Meanwhile Indonesia is the country with the most Muslims in it lmao

[@TrevorSmithy]

I formed Arabia as Mahra... Egypt is super easy compared to that.

[@-Teca-]

Hi laith! Im pooing! Are u too??

[@user-yz5fx3hs8w]

Omg

[@Jay2JayGaming]

1:15 what joke?