Fort Mims & The Creek War

In this episode we explore the history of the Creek War and Fort Mims, Alabama where on August 30, 1813 one of the most tragic events in history played out in the hot, August sun. Please consider subscribing and check out these awesome channels for more history education and great content!
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[@marilynscull4585]

Awesome thank you History

[@HistorySavior1941]

Thank you so much Mrs. Marilyn! Hope all is well!

[@davidpoole5595]

Lord willing and the Creeks dont rise .....

[@richardmarsh9257]

Excellent video! Do you have plans to visit Horseshoe Bend as a continuation of the Creek War history?

[@HistorySavior1941]

I most definitely have plans for that and several more sites relating to the war as well. Thank you for the kind words and for watching! Look for more coming up in the near future!

[@bayoubushcraftandsurvival8842]

I failed to mention the redstick leader was William Weathford. His story is truly heart wrenching. He did everything he could to stay neutral until the US Col. Of the military in the area threatened him about using his trading post as a supply depot for the military. He had turned his own brother down for the same idea. A day or 2 later his trading post/home was burned to the ground and his wife and young son had been murdered. Fort mims unfortunately reaped what they had sewn. However this incident only inspired the trail of tears. Incidently the Seminole indians made of Creeks, black slaves and indigenous tribes people of the Florida everglades were never conquered.

[@HistorySavior1941]

There at Mims he also told them to not to kill the women or children, but they didn’t listen. It was too much to handle and story goes that he actually left during the second wave of the attack. Awesome points and information. I’m so thankful you commented! You clearly have a ton of information on the subject and your comments are very much welcome. Thank you again for watching and I hope you continue to do so!

[@Wrapscallionn]

David Mims descendant here.( Sam's first cousin, not his son). Legend goes that David was going there to trade that day, but got delayed.

[@bayoubushcraftandsurvival8842]

@@HistorySavior1941 That's right he did tell them not harm the women and children, and once it went bad there was nothing he could do to stop it. His only choice was to participate or get out and he chose the latter. Many people don't know but Creek beliefs at that time at least was that if a member of your tribe,clan,or family was murdered, revenge must be had. After the corn creek incident where colonials, militia attacked the red sticks who were coming back from Pensacola Florida with weapon for their own Civil War with the white stick creeks. After that what happened at fort mims was inevitable. The red sticks had to obtain revenge for their family that were killed. It's just unfortunate that in the fog of battle that so many went to far. But who are those to say it went to far when the american government (Andrew Jackson) was committing genocide. Even to this day on the pine ridge reservation where well over 60 indian females have gone missing or been murdered and yet the government has never investigated them. I'm half white and I look it(lol) so when I say this it hurts me deeply that my people on one side of the coin would slaughter an entire race of peoples for their land and what's under it. If you asked or if the govt came to me and said you have to choose between being white or being indian, I would choose to be indian. When our country which I love cautions or comes out against others for genocide, it's sickening because it's hypocrisy. Any way rambled far too long I guess I'm just very passionate when it comes to my people and all american indians who are oppressed. Take care, hagoonee.

[@Wrapscallionn]

@bayoubushcraftandsurvival8842 vnhesse! I grew up going to Boatyard every summer, there is still a Mims descendant living there ( my mom's cousin Linda, heh.) And yeah, it's a dilemma for those of us with native and white heritage.

[@bayoubushcraftandsurvival8842]

There I a lot more to this conflict than mentioned. The US did not find themselves in the middle of a civil war, they were the reason for the civil war. The military attacking the red sticks at burnt creek was just the final straw. They had already attacked and killed the wife and child of a half white and half creek man who was loved by both sides and later became the leader of the red sticks. I am part Creek and part Seminole and in the Creek beliefs, is that if a family member is murdered those responsible for it must die in order the family member who was murdered to rest in Pease with the spirits. The US military did everything they could to make Fort mims happen. And by the way, the leader of the red sticks told his warriors not to kill any women or children because he had already suffered that anguish himself and did not want to see that happen again. The warriors got completely out of control and when he saw he couldn't stop them he and a small group of redsticks left.

[@HistorySavior1941]

Everything you said is completely 💯 percent true. You can only put so much in a video because if it is too long people will not watch. This episode is giving a bare bones history and encouraging people to visit the site and more into the history. The causes of this war began as a Creek Civil War that was began in reality by the US encroachment and building of the Federal Road. So again, you are right. However the beginning of the conflict in itself was among the tribe which was fueled even more by uS interaction. I do agree with the US wanting it to happen because then the problem would settle itself between tribal conflicts. It just didn’t work out how they planned. You points are valid and very truthful and factual! Thanks for watching and commenting. I also come from Muskogee background and live on the reservation in Alabama. You clearly have researched this subject and in no doubt, read works by Gregory Waselkov as well. A very great historian and professor. I hope you continue to watch the channel and add to the discussion.

[@bayoubushcraftandsurvival8842]

@@HistorySavior1941 thank you, and I appreciate your channel and I enjoyed the video very much. I hope my lengthy comment did come across as being critical, if so it was meant to inform those who might not know some of the details. Thanks again and God Bless you as we are all relations.

[@HistorySavior1941]

No not at all. I welcome anything you or anyone else would like to input, especially if I am wrong. You were not critical at all and even if you were critical that is ok too because we are all learning together. That is why I like doing this and have this channel because I learn things I didn’t know as well through people watching. And if I am wrong, we’ll I would most definitely want to be corrected so I can fix it and keep learning! Thank you so much and feel free to comment with info here anytime and if there is a need to be critical, please be critical.

[@Wrapscallionn]

@HistorySavior1941 also....this Sam Mims was the Sam Mims who got a passport with Charles Weatherford ( Williams father) to go into Creek Country. My own family research indicates that Sam was 1/8 Pamunkey, and Charles was 1/4 either Catawba or Pamunkey. Both were once employed by George Galphin.

[@bayoubushcraftandsurvival8842]

@@Wrapscallionn wow I didn't know that, that's interesting.