Forte: The Christmas Villain Who Almost Destroyed The Beast | Discovering Disney

[@a_guy751]

How am I supposed to have a Merry Christmas when I'm "BOLTED TO THE WAALL"

[@danielelijahtolentino7029]

Goodpoint

[@AshleyandShelbyGray]

Even when I was little I never once blamed him for being so bitter and angry

[@MrStickman1997]

You probably are almost for real now...

[@scarlett6015]

Holy- I FINALLY REALIZED WHY FORTE SCARED ME AS A KID!! HE WAS CGI while the most of the movie was traditional animation... He seemed more real to me compared to the rest...

[@ERBanmech]

Scarlett it was a pretty good design choice in my opinion as it set him apart compared to the rest of the cast dignifying him above others like he sought

[@Maria-ed3jo]

omg same!

[@nicolochanleo5730]

Yes like the cgi fetus from courage the cowardly dog

[@LegoReader12345hello]

@@nicolochanleo5730 return the slab

[@misery_shun]

I thought he was a fever dream I had

[@lizbizwiz1238]

To be honest, Forte kinda scared me as a kid. 😰

[@ItsKball]

Me too

[@sandragordon9496]

Same xD!

[@garveyneal1672]

Let’s face it Tim curry will always be the king of scary movie villains

[@Brynn332]

Still creeps me out now.

[@miznason2583]

Me too

[@connorplisga3718]

Call me crazy but in terms of being a villain, FORTE IS BETTER THAN GASTON.

[@jessicalamb8736]

I see that as well.

[@rosegold_bunbun]

Right plus that kick but sing he sang lol this dude scared me as a child 😂💀☠️

[@srdjan3057]

Forte is much better than Gaston(2017 live action remake), no doubt about that, but, i am not sure i can agree on the original one though!

[@MetroXLR99]

Both Forte, and Xaldin from Kingdom Hearts were better antagonists for The Beast. Both characters tried to manipulate the Beast by stoking his anger and sorrow. ..Gaston only encountered the Beast briefly, and tried to kill him out of jealousy.

[@briannahlabelle1150]

You're not!

[@Goobzilla420]

Wait, so when everyone becomes human again does that mean Forte's corps is just gonna chill in the castle?

[@Onyxkokoro96]

Duuuuude that's a good point

[@retosius7962]

more likely he's still an organ because his soul was removed tho that would be hilarious in a morbid way. …, am I weird for thinking that?

[@adnilnosnhoj]

I've always hoped Forte didn't actually die no one should die in a Disney Christmas story.

[@jonathanwaters206]

@@adnilnosnhoj look up the story of the little match girl

[@adnilnosnhoj]

@@jonathanwaters206 I wrote an essay on that story many years ago Over 30 years actually. You can't get more depressing than that story, but I loved it then and always will. Still, Disney could have used Forte's story to let everyone know that not everybody likes all the hoopla of Christmas. I really believed they were going to go in that direction up until the end of the movie. I was so disappointed when they didn't. I thought the character was a gem. A snarky, mean-spirited, insecure gem, but a gem all the same.

[@Squiggy8440]

In a way, isnt forte’s relationship with the beast a parallel to an abusive relationship? :c

[@ZimVader-0017]

Yes. The way he wiggled himself into Adam's (the Beast) life and tried to make sure that he was the only one who he trusted, and the way he practically isolated him is similar to how an abuser will keep a vulnerable person (be it a spouse, son/daughter, patient, etc) under their control. Adam was, what, 11-12 years old when the curse was made? So this conditioning has been going on for a while.

[@hannahzografos5729]

Ali S Wow! I never thought about it that way. But I agree with you. You’ve also just made Forte creepier and scarier than he already was.

[@Squiggy8440]

Hannah Zografos lol always happy to ruin someone’s childhood~

[@AshleyandShelbyGray]

I just always felt like Forte was the true victim here though :(

[@oooh19]

If this ruins someone's childhood then they've got bigger issues!

[@Korvo.420]

I'm bolted to the *wALL*

[@lavendernovak2200]

Kianna Davis I read this before it happened and laughed WAAY too hard at it

[@CuriousUserX90]

Kianna Davis No wonder the other characters can move around the castle as inanimate objects and he can’t, for good reasons though.

[@okami-chan9772]

Did somebody made a meme about that?

[@vortexastar193]

That was the funniest and most terrifying thing I'd ever seen as a kid.

[@jaschabull2365]

I bet Mr. A. C. can relate to that.

[@jasminejohnston6393]

The way Forte dies is even more scary because the Beast destroys the keyboard and that just scared the living pi$$ out of me the first time I saw that. Organs shouldn’t be scary!

[@bloodyrose1985]

Pokemon reviews and train videos more like removing his voice

[@AshleyandShelbyGray]

It think the way he dies isn't scary because the Beast destroyed the keyboard, but rather, because of the horrifying angle when he fell (plus, it was implied suicide, so there's that)

[@cryptojonny6837]

Wonder how his face looked after he fell down and died.

[@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072]

Why does the keyboard breaking scare you?

[@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072]

@@AshleyandShelbyGray no, it wasn’t. Trust me watch the scene again and take a close look at his facial expressions, he didn’t want to off himself.

[@ProfessorUniverse95]

Never realised how scary Forte could be as a kid

[@sandrixhozart7838]

The evil queen transform scared me along of the Black Cauldron

[@marquishalsell]

I felt the darkness all through forte never liked all his horror music I would cover up every time I seen him get revenge

[@hilariomendoza1784]

Love your profile picture👍

[@ProfessorUniverse95]

@@sandrixhozart7838 same here, first time I watched Snow White I was probably super young so yeah it freaked me out until I was in my early twenties I think

[@sandrixhozart7838]

@@ProfessorUniverse95 yep in late teens I find it in yard sales

[@IsaacCarlson]

I somehow totally forgot my Santa hat for this video... but that's okay! I think the video still turned out great and I hope you enjoyed it! By the way, to stay connected with the magic of Wotso Videos all of the time in between my videos on KZbin make sure to follow me @WotsoVideos on Twitter and Instagram! Have a very, merry holiday season and a magical day!

[@kimberlymedina6812]

Happy Holidays!

[@sandrixhozart7838]

Hope you have a Super sayian week and a Merry Cheerful Christmas same it's on vhs too but feels a need on dvd my favorite sequel

[@josezavaleta5809]

Awesome video Wotso Videos👍🙂

[@ItsKball]

Do u have a discord..

[@orvillefischer7503]

Thanks for a great video and breakdown of forte

[@TickedOffPriest]

Forte's final performance was simply smashing.

[@nightfallalicorn4246]

I actually laughed at this.

[@stormspirit5882]

Loud is such a terrifying villian. For those of you not in the music world, Forte means loud. Disney literally has a villian named Loud.

[@CherryBun0325]

Oh gosh, I’m a choirgirl and- 🤯😵‍💫

[@laurenmontera9516]

In French, it means strong 💪

[@jarlairess]

Ie. Making KZbin videos is Isaac's forte

[@lisettegarcia7013]

One thing about Forte: Smashing! *(Old Pennywise begins to laugh)*

[@jasminejohnston6393]

Oh I get it, The Beast destroys Forte’s keyboard by smashing it!

[@lisettegarcia7013]

@@jasminejohnston6393 well that and he is voiced by Tim Curry. *(Nigel Thornberry and the original Pennywise)*

[@16taysia]

LMAO yep! 😂

[@SacredMilkOG]

#CommentsYouCanHear

[@bradyryan5105]

When Forte cackles, I can hear Pennywise cackling too

[@jamesmoyner7499]

10:10 Oh that is what he was doing. Ever since I was little I always wondered why he was pulling himself from the wall! Thank you Isaac for not only talking about this great underrated midquel, a wonderful Tim Curry voiced villain, and going in deeper with everything mentioned!! Have a merry Christmas and happy new year!

[@Pony-Potential]

I thought he suddenly just started to just pull himself away for...an unknown reason. It confused me.

[@electrochara1030]

@@Pony-Potential I thought so too

[@Pony-Potential]

@@electrochara1030 Yeah, I thought..."is he suddenly trying to kill himself? wait, why is he screaming now?"

[@micaylab1]

Forte's not the best one of Tim Curry's characters but he is an interesting one.

[@jamesmoyner7499]

@@micaylab1 I never said best, only the he was a “wonderful Tim Curry voiced villain”.

[@FriendlyCelestial]

Forte gave me nightmares

[@karamixon5815]

I won't blame you he STILL gave me nightmares.

[@tamarasmith9060]

It's sad that he couldn't find some happiness as a human & then became so angry & bitter. He ended up destroying himself. Plus he was obviously insane from his power over Beast too, because while it definitely would stop Beast from falling in love if he was dead, it didn't occur to him that once Beast was dead nobody at all would appreciate his music. Also, the curse was to teach Beast a lesson so if he was dead there would be no reason for the Enchantress to keep the spell on the rest of the castle & he would be turned human again anyway. Then he would certainly be out of a job, maybe put in prison if the others realized he killed their master on purpose. So even if he was that angry & selfish, logic should've stopped him from trying to kill Beast & Belle.

[@adnilnosnhoj]

Good points. If he had stopped and thought about it more carefully, I think he could have lured Belle into the chamber as he did, and began to play sad music for her. He could have manipulated her just like he had manipulated the Beast because she was missing her father. Had he used that to keep her sad and depressed, chances are neither Belle or the Beast would have fallen in love and Forte would have doubled his audience. Now,t since it was made clear after THIS video was made that all the servants would have turned completely into what they had been transformed into, I think Forte was not aware of this. If he had, he would have reluctantly accepted the idea of becoming human again. I do believe though that had he not died and the Beast would forgive him, he could have remained a valuable member of the court. At least that's how I would write it.

[@theojaggi3963]

I've said this to someone else, he seems a little bit suicidal.

[@SacredMilkOG]

Because possessed organs are logical beings.

[@tamarasmith9060]

@@SacredMilkOG 😂😂😂😂 Well, you've got a point there. But none of the other characters have gone insane to the point of murder. The wardrobe & piano were a bit nutty, but in an eccentric way.

[@SacredMilkOG]

@@tamarasmith9060 I was just goofin :) and I dunno... that boiler in the basement looks extra sketch.

[@Blondies_Version]

Forte always scared me when I was little

[@sivb.vanderstroom9858]

Me too

[@PhoenixPonyPhoenixOwl]

Any chance that this enchantress is the same as the one in Aladdin, King of Thieves?

[@newelljoseph5060]

That was an Oracle. Oracles are wise spirits that inhabit objects or come to those in times of need while Enchantresses and people of magically endowed skills and abilities. Though they are close within the realm of magic they are slightly different

[@autumbreeze1129]

Maybe she's the one who put genie in the lamp in the first place

[@heatherroberson8981]

I believe that Isaac has a video of this enchantress and Pinocchio’s Blue Fairy.

[@misakiayuzawa4402]

i think she is the same on 90% places.

[@MetroXLR99]

Actually, the Enchantress looks more like a character from Disney's Gargoyles.

[@drswag0076]

hats off to Tim Curry for voicing this great character

[@nathang6376]

Throughout my childhood, Forte was the only Disney villain made me genuinely afraid at night. The horrifying factor of his character: he couldn’t move. He was stuck in that dark room alone, but could wreak so much disaster on the castle and the characters from where he sat bolted to the wall.

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

He's scary but epic

[@portoguy5159]

@ginaldoggo yes really

[@c_rex3309]

So are you

[@Boundwithflame23]

Someone else probably already commented this but what the heck "I'M BOLTED TO THE *WALL* !!"

[@brooklynmills9793]

I think what we need now, since you can clearly see that Adam was in fact a child or preteen or whatever by the movie, is a video explaining why his parents were not present at their party!

[@Roberto-mm4gr]

Brooklyn Mills I think they’re supposed to be dead and that’s why he’s bitter

[@adnilnosnhoj]

@@Roberto-mm4gr I agree. They died and the staff felt sorry for him and spoiled him rotten. Both our of duty and pity. Once the monster was created, no one had the courage correct him.

[@TheThemeParkEvangelist]

Forte always scared me as a kid, this story was actually extremely interesting. Thank you for discussing it! :)

[@ionryful]

9:51 They can't fall in love if they're *DED!*

[@CandyCoyote]

Hey Isaac! I have an idea for a video, with that being a video about Sofia the First that explores what happened to Sofia's biological father, and maybe just some background on who he was. It's just a suggestion, but I thought that it would be a very interesting video topic that you might possibly be interested in :> Keep up with the good work!

[@bridgetteturner7510]

He was lost at sea

[@kaliciamcneese1403]

@@bridgetteturner7510 yes

[@okami-chan9772]

I haven't seen the movie for a very long time; but tbh, I still have that Christmas song, from the movie, still stuck in my head after all these years. And I still remember parts of the movie promo, from another Disney VHS, when I was about to watch that Winny the Pooh movie, the one with the gang went out looking for Christopher Robin. Edit: Now I remember, the movie is called "Pooh's Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin".

[@noura4324]

‘As long as there’s Christmas I truly believe’

[@elijahkelley7616]

Ah, good times

[@DaronSilvers]

So this might sound lame, but this video ended up helping me a lot. My mom just passed away about a month ago and Christmas is getting really hard. I haven't been in the mood for anything. Then I randomly clicked on this video and liked it so much that I went and watched the movie because I've never seen it. First time I've felt happy all day. So thank you. Maybe you could do a video in the future on the movie itself. That would be cool.

[@mayustri]

I can understand your pain , I lost my dad 4 weeks ago (and I am 14) but I am feeling better and I am glad you are feeling better too. Just remember life has to go on. 😊😢

[@DaronSilvers]

@@mayustri I'm sorry to hear that, especially at your age. Stay strong! Thank you so much.

[@mayustri]

@@DaronSilvers Thanks , may the new year grant us better.

[@PeachWookiee]

Hugs to you, Daron Silvers. My mom died over two years ago, a month before Mother's Day. It's always hard when certain holidays roll around. It's okay to do what you need to get through the holiday. I was 36 when Mom died, and it's no easier when you are older.

[@thetruejobros872]

I hooe you all have a great new year. Things get better with time.

[@Queen-nm9yj]

Easily the scariest looking Disney villain and he’s so underrated 😂😂😂

[@angeldog15]

If they made a live action version of this movie, he would be horrifying.

[@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072]

Hmmm

[@superaverageisnotme]

Don’t start giving Disney ideas

[@FadowMar_CZ]

when I was young i really thought about it and I believe that the Forte in realistic form with same design would look even more terrifying and epic

[@michaelmartinez6437]

Forte reminds me of The devil ...

[@thatgrumpychick4928]

Everything Tim Curry touches turns to gold

[@stelladeangelis5618]

Who else never heard of Forte but watched this vid anyway... No one? Ok.., *awkwardly backs out of room*

[@cloudperson7377]

Same

[@clonecommanderrex8542]

Me

[@Eh-its-me]

Hey I'm same

[@retosius7962]

*backs out of room after you*

[@ZimVader-0017]

I watched this vid BECAUSE I had never heard of him. Wasn't even aware that there was a midquel and sequel for Beauty and the Beast.

[@kadajsnightqueen]

I wonder if Forte’s view would have changed if he realized that by failing to break the enchantment in time, they all would become what they appeared in truth, not just shape. Obviously he didn’t care at the very end, but before it got to that point, would he have reconsidered? Knowing that, without Belle’s influence, he would have become nothing more than a lifeless pipe organ, a collection of dusty pipes sitting in a desolate, forgotten castle, empty save for a mindless animal prowling the halls and shoving aside broken furniture and shattered dish ware, all semblance of humanity long lost, bereft even of the music that once soothed him. No more music, no more master to serve. Just the roar of a twisted beast curled in his den, attacking any who stumble upon the ruins.

[@mement0m0ri86]

Forte saying to Fife: “She pulls him (Beast) from my grasp”. Not really an attraction to Adam like I’ve read in so many fanfic, but more like a desire of manipulating to get the attention and the acknowledgement he ever wanted. It is a relationship based on manipulation. Forte dominates the Master. And before it was the Master who dominated Forte. We have here a perfect sample of the Karpman dram triangle: victim, rescuer, persecutor. Before the enchantment, Forte is both a victim and persecuted. Adam persecuted him and “rescued” him by being the dominator with his high status as a Prince. And after the enchantment, the roles change. Forte is the rescuer and persecutor and the Beast the victim. And Forte finds a total control in this role. It gives me a sense to his Life. He is admitted both as an artist and as a person. Something makes me think he has fought his whole life to have people’s attention for his person as a whole. And Belle, a young person, breaks what he’s been built for years in no time. This is a recurrent issue in Disney’s movies. A young people who, in no time, breaks what the “old” person has made in years. He couldn’t accept that the Beast needed more than music or friendship. Just love and someone that could shake him up. Maestro couldn’t be this person. No love or sexual attraction in that. Just a game Maestro tried to play to follow as he could the social contract. Maestro is genuinely aware of the superficiality of our society. Knowing that he couldn’t never change it made him fall in cynicism and misanthropy. The Beast was his last hope not to face his doom. By falling in love of Belle, the Beast sounded Forte’s death knell.

[@lovinglyok3571]

Forte’s hunger for more respect lead him to believe that he would be better off being a magical instrument. CRAZY!

[@bradyryan5105]

Yep. Not realizing if the curse came to fruitation, he and all the beasts servants would die and become non-living objects

[@dustymcwari4468]

Actually, wasn’t that thing of “if the last rose petal fall, we’ll all die” a thing of the remake?, in the original they were going to stay the same, with the only thing of concern being the Beast now becoming a monster in mind and soul, or I dunno, Forte would have take a toll from his selfish wish regardless

[@JT5555]

The Enchanted Christmas Is Easily The Best Christmas Movie Ever.

[@firefly5934]

Don’t wanna be _that_ person, but *cough cough* POLAR EXPRESS *cough cough*

[@ropelittlebear7050]

Does forte kinda looks like the magic mirror from snow white

[@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072]

Hey, you’re right

[@benjaminsmith1361]

hey man. im not a doctor but your lips for the last few videos are becoming more and more blue. it looks almost cynotic, idk if its make up but if its not please go talk to your doctor. you make great videos... also if its super cold it might add the discoloration

[@fightingfaerie]

Glad to see someone else who actually loved Enchanted Christmas growing up. I think I loved it for the same reasons: loving Beauty and the Beast and loving Christmas. Also I loved the song As Long As There's Christmas and it remains one of my favorite Christmas songs to this day.

[@IsaacCarlson]

Yeah I was a big fan! That is cool you've had a positive experience with the film and its music as well.

[@karamixon5815]

Beauty and the Beast enchanted Christmas (Beast killing his actual serving) - A lot a lot of fandom asking various a questions about the first movie especially about Beast killing his actual serving....well they show it on screen in this Christmas sequel they didn't shy away of the death Maestro Forte Fife tells the Beast that Forte's power comes from the keyboard so he he slammed his keyboard (A.K.A his heart in his lungs when he turned into a organ) in the last screenshot Beast did the right thing but still feeling guilty about it to kill Maestro Forte. what's even darker about this scene of The frist movie belle and adam finally kiss to make the curse broken everyone in the castle Turn Back To Human except for Maestro Forte STILL is a broken organ.

[@britainluver431]

That could be a possibility.

[@bradyryan5105]

Or Forte returned to his human form but is still dead. So in essence, Adam has a dead corpse in his chambers lol

[@airbending_sith]

Real question: how did he get into the master's chamber that quick before he was transformed?? Was he teleported

[@BopperBippity]

This movie ads more plot holes to the story then the original.

[@adnilnosnhoj]

I think that might be the case. Someone on another site once suggested the Enchantress deliberately put Forte there just so he could be available for the Beast. I once wrote a fanfic where we find out the Enchantress put the curse on the household because the whole lot of them were, one way or another, messed up when it came to relationships. She felt it was her duty to set them all on the right path.

[@katherinkeegan8601]

@@adnilnosnhoj The live version of the movie touches on this. The servents blame themselves for not helping him more with relationships and accept their punishment. I always wondered why no one had tried to help him, the movie goes into the reasons.

[@elliotfong5061]

Excatly

[@simonacannizzo1074]

I love the Enchanted Christmas and Forte is a great Villian! Merry Christmas!

[@theanimaljones]

I loved this movie as a child. Tim Curry makes the best villain, he’s an excellent actor. I found it sad that he died at the end of the film. I found it tragic that he couldn’t adjust to other forms of music.

[@christophersanchez7731]

Forte’s music is ahead of it’s time, in our standards it maybe seem beautiful in its own way, but in his era, it was seen as gloomy as it’s different from the norm Belle herself was looked down on from being different And other great artists like Mozart and in painting Van Gogh weren’t truly appreciated until after they died Forte is like that in that regard, he was a unappreciated genius that got into his way in Prince Adam’s court But He wasn’t appreciative for his work It’s not that easy for an artist to go to other styles, especially those that want to be different, want to create and explore For art is expression, Forte like any artist wanted to create his own music and have it appreciated by others, especially his Master the Prince On Christmas, he went out of his way to create an original peace in the Prince’s honor, but was rejected and saw as gloomy Then the enchantment came Forte being reborn as his own instrument was a dream come true, he can create like never before, to be truly one with music What’s more, his work was finally being appreciated by Beast whose suffering depression Like many depressed people today find comfort in music, Beast found comfort in the work he once rejected Forte finally wasn’t just being appreciated, he was needed, becoming the Beast’s friend and confidante the last 10 years Then Belle came and threatened to take it all away Forte loved his form, not only having an eternal lifespan, and power, he also is one with his art, and his position made him needed by Beast If the enchanting ends and Beast is happy, Forte is no longer needed, like before He became mad in desperation, trying to keep Beast depressed and dependent on him by either killing Belle or alienating her from Beast, when neither work, he was desperate enough to try destroy everything in his madness which led to his Tragic end

[@theanimaljones]

@@christophersanchez7731 That makes a lot sense, thank you. Still wish they would have come up with a more amicable solution though, but sometimes there just isn't one.

[@mossandthings2457]

Just Enough Budget to Animate TIM CURRY'S LIPS!

[@ryansu6746]

No wonder why all the enchanted servants avoided the west wing like please

[@bignatemcbc]

I remember being fascinated with Forte and becoming obsessed with Pipe Organs after seeing this movie. I used to just draw him again and again pipe by pipe until I was satisfied! LOL!

[@CharlizeL5151]

Can u do a video on where pixie dust comes from if u can

[@meowsmakemusic718]

Why would a villa name themselves Forte Instead of Fortissimo?

[@federicodesimone9]

Forte is subtle, and he used his music for destruction and torment because he finally controlled his master, the one who disregarded his works and Belle ruined his plans.

[@GanonGhidorah]

I get that Forte is insane, but during the climax of the film I can't help but focus on the fact that he wasn't thinking clearly. His entire claim to power is by having a close relationship to the Master - manipulating him as it were...He wants the curse to remain, so that he can maintain that power and relevance...BUT...at the end, he's willing to kill both Belle AND the Beast to stop the curse from being lifted. ...What exactly was he planning to do if he succeeded and both of them died? For the one thing...the only person who listened to him or even liked him would now be dead, and everyone else in the castle would've lost their only hope at being human again. Needless to say, I'm pretty sure they'd abandon Forte to his own isolated room in the castle and he'd never see another living soul again. Then what would his plan have been if Belle died but the Beast survived? Did he really think the Master would be content with letting Belle's murderer exist in his castle? All I'm saying, no matter what happens - all of this ends badly for him.

[@IsaacCarlson]

I completely agree and I kind of think part of him maybe knew that. I think he would rather be destroyed then ever become an insignificant human again; it's kind of a dark idea but as you explained no matter what he was going to lose in some way.

[@adnilnosnhoj]

IMHO, I think being bolted to the wall, like a prisoner hanging from a dungeon wall, drove the sensitive artist insane. The ONLY comfort HE had in this way was the comfort he gave Adam through his music. As a human, he had mobility and freedom but no one appreciated him or validated his talent. He now had someone "love" him, and not just anyone -it was a royal! The master of the house in fact! What a rush to the ego! If he had not been isolated in the darkness, if the other servants besides Fife had visited him regularly, he might have stayed focused on the benefits to returning to humanity, but as we know that did not happen. Once he realized he had no control over the beast, he had a complete nervous breakdown. He lost all sense of what he was actually doing. He was acting out of absolute pain. In his eyes, he had spent 10 years as a prisoner hanging on a dungeon wall, only to be kicked to the curb forgotten and alone. It wasn't returning to humanity he dreaded, it was returning to a life of loneliness and obscurity. Had Disney just taken an extra 3-5 minutes, they could have had Beast assure him that he would always think of him as a valued friend. Belle could have told him it was alright if he didn't like all the cheeriness to Christmas, that she understood not everyone is into all that. Then when they go back to the next Christmas, where Mrs. Potts was retelling the story, and Adam cues for the music, you see Forte at the party as well, but smugly yet gently hands the honors to Fife.

[@CherryBun0325]

@@adnilnosnhoj commenting here so I can come back when I need a good cry 🥲🥲🥲 my heart 🤧

[@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072]

@@adnilnosnhoj beauty and the beast, Christmas adventure, live action, remake

[@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072]

@@CherryBun0325 hey you again :D

[@justsomeokami8867]

This will always be my Christmas guilty pleasure 😊

[@amandafox8603]

💜❤💚💙💛 Love Forte! Especially since he's voiced none other by Tim Curry! Thanks for doing this vid. He's one of the most underappreciated Disney villains. Like Ratigan from The Great Mouse Detective.

[@ravenclawfairy3648]

I LOVED this video! Forte is a villain that has stuck with me ever since I first saw this movie! Thank you SO MUCH for making this video! ❤️

[@gisselleyanes1269]

Yay I love beauty and the best

[@CuriousUserX90]

It’s nice that Forte had a Counterpart in the Live Action Reboot, a Good Guy that also happens to be the husband of one of the other characters.

[@stargalaxy3639]

Wait really that cool

[@MetroXLR99]

I believe that character was a Harpsichord. which is much less intimidating than a Pipe Organ.

[@kevindavis296]

I forgot about the beauty and the beast sequel. Haven't seen it for awhile. Forte was a dark villain, worst than Gaston.

[@bittersprout3694]

Forte's presence, appearance and introduction (as a self-playing piano) makes me question if 'is this a Christmas special or a halloween treat?'

[@mcpeanutful]

It might have been one of those movies that is both Halloween AND Christmas, like The Nightmare Before Christmas.

[@mono-watermatt3894]

Can you imagine Forte the Evil Pipe Organ as a boss fight in a Kingdom Hearts game?

[@CherryBun0325]

Yes I can, and I will keep wishing until they make this a thing 🥺🤧❤️

[@KiaraLionessTM]

Amazing Issac could you do pipes story too? (Dunno if I spelt his name right)

[@westerfrost3701]

Kiara LionessTM {Kiara Fray Fairchild} *Fife

[@KiaraLionessTM]

Wester Frost thank you omg I had no idea how his name was spelled

[@westerfrost3701]

Kiara LionessTM {Kiara Fray Fairchild} You’re welcome!

[@jackmcdonnell8505]

As a kid Forte REALLY scared me and he still scares me I mean look at his design forget Maleficent as a Dragon or Jafar as a Cobra or evil Genie Forte is scary to look at! Awesome video Isaac!!

[@dupirechristophe7703]

Forte needs Yoga, bro, no flexibility in the mind that one x'D

[@adnilnosnhoj]

That, or eat a Snickers. Musicians can turn into real jerks when they're hungry. ;)

[@jackrlmiller]

+Wotso Videos Awesome discussion about Maestro Fotre. Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas is one of my favourite Disney Christmas movies. Forte is one of the most sadistic direct-to-video villains I really love to hate, with the second being Zira from The Lion King II: Simba's Pride. I hope you have a wonderful Merry Christmas, Isaac. I can't wait for more new videos in 2019. I have some ideas for you that you can do for future videos.

[@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072]

Direct to video? What?

[@jackrlmiller]

@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 Direct-to-video means that it got released to home video (VHS and DVD) instead of having a theatrical release.

[@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072]

@@jackrlmiller that’s weird…I could’ve sworn I saw it in theatres because I distinctly rmemwmber cowering between seats when Forte fell over

[@booksinbed7907]

And here we have the third and final, forgotten Carlin brother.

[@Itslilmare1938]

Now I remember why he scared me on top of his face. His voice actor, Tim Curry, was the original IT...

[@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072]

Original ?

[@harmonyv9365]

Kida from Atlantis the lost empire

[@jamesmoyner7499]

Rose 564 I really want to seeher become an off Disney Princess even though she was the first princess to become a Queen by the the end of her film... TAKE THAT ELSA!! Also I have always had a crush on Kida!

[@marcysoucy9522]

Ive seen the holiday movie!

[@lukasnovella9001]

mrs mozzarella sticks HEY! Your here too! From Nour! Oh my gosh, why am I Like this?

[@CherryBun0325]

Hi, this is random, but your cat is so gorgeous 🥺❤️

[@KimiGR5]

2:23 until everything changed when the fire nation attacked

[@djpackard5120]

One slight correction: Forte was a self-taught pianist/organist. He wouldn't have become a pipe organ if he wasn't an organist.

[@Jassiepoohbear]

Oh wow this took me back!!! This was a really good movie! My favorite thing was the song " As long as there's Christmas" and Tim Curry ( voice of Forte) is always the best part in any movie.

[@crystalchampion9617]

Next they need to do a sequel to The live action beauty and the beast

[@domonicsantalucia9002]

Wotso videos that movie takes place in between the first beauty and the beast movie right and if so does that mean that Gaston was the second villain they defeated

[@MTTT19]

While I’m no fan of The Enchanted Christmas, I will admit that there is one good thing about it. TIM CURRY

[@sporkcutletbowl1565]

Nice Video. Forte is a really good villain.

[@NathanRBradfordMusic]

Frollo and Forte are my top favorites. You are so good at wording plots

[@julielaland538]

I don't like forte he is scary and evil! But beauty she is amazing! 💖❤❤❤❤❤💖

[@tdivineexorcist]

What a pour tortured soul.. :0( I feel kinda bad because I feel his pain

[@vacuumlover1]

Forte: *DONT GET STRUNG OUT* *BY THE WAY I LOOK* *DONT JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COOVVAAAHAH*

[@phl6716]

“I’m not much of a man by the light of day But by night I’m one hell of a lover.”

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Cool thing about pipe organs: Despite being built to be a "one-man orchestra," in medieval times before electric motors, they needed a full staff manning the bellows. Forte in his enchated form would be the first man to truly be a solo orchestra, a fact he no doubt revelled in. Even better, he didn’t have the human limitations of which keyboards he could access and could play foot pedals as easily as the finger panels. Any organist would kill for such an opportunity, even if it meant effective imprisonment. You see, because the organ is such a massive, expensive, and grand instrument, they were associated exclusively with churches and nobility. If you could play the organ on your own and had the ABILITY to play dissonance on a pipe organ, it effectively meant you had *the power of God.* So it makes perfect sense how Forte loves his new form and why he was able to manifest so much power in it. Despite being the most confined out of anyone, he is in his version of paradise, and actually doesn't really care about the Beast, he just wants to enjoy eternity playing whatever he wants, whenever he wants, and needs nobody to help him.

[@moviemaniac2159]

I wonder if when the spell was eventually broken, if the remains of Forte would become a dead body, or if it would just remain a broken organ.

[@philipcheung63]

I’m going the latter, as the curse sealed his fate.

[@danielbickford3458]

Mole from Atlantis backstory

[@dewiciousrromen2719]

I think that Forte looks like he should be in the nightmare before Christmas

[@hollywoodnoire]

Since he looks like Oogie Boogie

[@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072]

@@hollywoodnoire who??

[@lukasmiller486]

Adam and Forte’s dynamic is like Othello and Iago. I wonder if this was intentional like the Hamlet reference to the usurping uncle Scar in The Lion King.

[@thecourtjester2610]

You know, Forte means loud. A rather good name for a pipe organ.

[@hwtvi3466]

The movie, as a whole, definitely isn’t very good, but I’d be lying if I said that I didn’t like Forte. He represents a scenario in Beaty and the Beast that’s actually pretty interesting: What if someone in the castle _didn’t_ want the spell to be broken?

[@WanderingRoe]

Thank you so much for doing a video on Forte, he's so cool and vastly underrated. You provided lots of interesting insights. 😀

[@danielelijahtolentino7029]

"Oh heavens, *IM* *BOLTED* *TO* *THE* *WALL* !"

[@aliyah2393]

MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎁🎄 🎄🎄🎄

[@segachildstarspawn2624]

Fun fact that my mom told my Uncle Gerard actually helped out with making this film.

[@CherryBun0325]

Ooh that’s actually cool ; o ; ❤️

[@garveyneal1672]

I think Forte serves as the Benidict Arnold of the beast and his servants.

[@sandrixhozart7838]

Yas!!! Tank you^0^♡♡♡ p.s. just watched it few days ago Also gonna post on fb♡♡♡ Lol that line gets me when Forte, says that 7:52

[@jaschabull2365]

So... At the end of Beauty And The Beast, does Forté's wreckage turn into his mangled corpse? o_0 Also, it seems as if the Beast and Forté kind of both messed each other up. By being an ungrateful brat earlier, I think the Beast led Forté to expect him to stop caring about him the moment he didn't need him, and totally forget how he was there for him in the early days of the enchantment. Really, seeing as Belle's relationship was teaching Beast to be a better person than he had been, it's likely he actually would have still been grateful, and still kept some appreciation for him and his work when they were men. Though I guess it's always possible Forté just didn't care. In any case, it seems being snubbed does things to you if you're a Disney character. It was what made the likes of Gaston, Scar, Syndrome and Frollo turn to villainy. Seems Quasimodo's one of the few immune to that sort of thing, which is especially surprising seeing as he was actively told he was garbage, not just overlooked. Though maybe that just squashed any possibility in his mind that he even had hope of getting any respect through evil. Yoiks.

[@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072]

You die in that form you stay in that form

[@llamantis]

(0:28) Its My mood when I don’t get Wotso Videos and Food!! ❤️😅😁

[@CatalinaLinal7710]

Just imagine how amazing it would have been if Forte had been included into the live action movie as a second villain. If well written and executed having both Gaston and Fortes stories in could create an incredible and grand movie Just IMAGINE the possibilities of (visual) story telling!

[@adnilnosnhoj]

That would have been so much fun to watch.

[@crystalchampion9617]

Yeah like they did with Gaston

[@melissalaliberte5452]

I was hoping for that honesty

[@cipherok2428]

Wait is that cat in Pinocchio the same cat Minnie has? (Figaro)

[@The_Str4nger]

8:22 beast is floating. soon you float too

[@maggiehydeck8182]

Looks as if you’re home for Christmas. Hope you have a jolly holiday!🎄

[@kiminowak8295]

Between Gaston and Forte, I dunno who's more evil......

[@valenciageode25]

“I’M MOUNTED TO THE WALL!” So intense...

[@julieshez387]

With Forte in the lives of Belle and the beast this is still kind of Stockholm syndrome so far during Belle's imprisonment with the beast in a back and forth twisted bad time at Christmas I think to believe so maybe the beast misunderstood Belle leaving him again but she was actually trying to get a perfect Christmas tree for the castle but that very bad Forte lied to him and the beast goes off to find Belle saving her from the icy water that Belle lost the tree thanks to naïve Fife loyal to Forte and just to put down there for you Isaac in case if you probably didn't put there on your video is that after the beast saved Belle from icy water cracked broken ice pond, the beast then put her in the dungeon for abandoning him Belle tried to explain to him but he wouldn't believe her Belle knew that he never meant anything but a beast for she tried to see the good in him faithfully this cause pain for Belle to bear of this again Stockholm syndrome thing ever since she came to the castle to free her dad from the beast she's trapped of this unfair fate all because of the beast's foolish careless actions had caused all this fatal curse at the beginning as later on the beast was about to agree with Forte to destroy the enchanted rose giving up his goal to regain his humanity until he found his present gift storybook from Belle he realized his mistake so he free Belle from the dungeon their friendship is restored in a ok positive way. Forte decided to kill the couple if he can't have the beast then no one can but the beast defeats him and Forte is then destroyed as causing his death Forte has a villainous nature but the beast felt sad for his poor dead friend. the beast moves on and him with Belle and everyone celebrates Christmas even in the same hard times there still hope for the beast and Belle of their relationship one another indeed so far.