Fortified Roof - Don’t Shingle Till You Watch This!

[@TheSnekkerShow]

Man, this was a great video. I worked on a roofing crew for a year or so in the late 90's, but I quit after hearing the foreman say, "You can't see it from my house," a few too many times when referring to blatantly inadequate workmanship. Even the guys who wanted to do a good job didn't know how to, because the senior guys were just laborers who worked their way up imitating what they saw other roofers do. Their job was just to nail down shingles, not to protect the homeowner from future problems. I had my roof replaced a few years ago after strong winds blew off half of a shoddy re-roof job, and while the overall workmanship was good, the drip edge and ice dam weren't overlapped properly considering that water runs downhill. It's a small thing that will likely never cause serious problems, but it also won't prevent problems. It was a small mistake that happened because of an inadequately trained crew. It's encouraging to listen to true professionals discussing how things can be done better.

[@hummyhero1484]

150mph winds blows my house down but my shingles wasn’t damaged lol 😂

[@nickb.237]

We had 150mph winds here in SWLA with Hurricane Laura last year and honestly there wasn't so much buildings being blown down, but the shingles and underlayment flying off and allowing rainwater in was some of the biggest issues across tens of thousands of homes here, so these extremely effective shingles are much more beneficial than it seems. Now don't get me wrong, there were structures that were completely ruined and tons of brick façade walls just loosening and falling, but most homes did not blow away even in the 130-150 mph winds we saw for nearly 3-4 hours last August.

[@johnchristopher20]

The wind doesn’t blow the house down, until the roof is sucked off by the wind. Builders depend on gravity being stronger than the uplift of wind. Look at the nailing of framing; it’s all to resist side pressure, not up forces.

[@klugermann5806]

@@johnchristopher20 I would build with ICF but you have to be careful to pick the right system.

[@nebraskaninkansas347]

Honestly the whole home structure together can stand thise winds. Roofs are usually the first to fail due to pressure loads and basically turning your roof into an airplane wing. Once the roof goes the walls loose that structural help and fail easier. As well as broken windows and failed doors can increase pressure in the house as well.

[@believerscc]

I live in Corpus Christi and thought how we built (sheathing on exterior, LSTA straps everywhere, ect) was the norm. After watching Matt for a while and seeing in Austin the cardboard stuff on as sheathing, I was shocked. I'm about to start my 3rd build at the end of the year. I'm not building in Matt's customer's range, but some of these waterproofing details, just make sense, relatively cheap and are super easy to install. Keep up the good work. Love the details that you have been giving out. I also can't believe some of the builders are putting on the "flat" 20 year shingle in my area. I bought Dow Corning 30 year architectural shingles for about $0.77.sqft in 2019. How much are you really saving. They put that crap up on $300k houses in new subdivisions.

[@keithray9194]

They are using that cardboard sheathing here around beaumont. Well, it's only one builder but when I saw it I was shocked. It will be full of mold in no time

[@nickb.237]

@@keithray9194 DR Horton/DSLD is trash, and they are ruining home values in the Lake Charles area.

[@TdrSld]

I'm in Calallen and see it in about 1/3 of the homes being built here it's crazy. When we redo are roof I'm going 5/8" Zip with the 2.0 method, I had shingle failure at the rig when the last hurricane came through (luckily it was like 4 rig caps and very little water got in). Not going to have that happen again, doing a good under-layment and hidden fastener metal roof done well above code will stop that from happening again.

[@nickb.237]

@@TdrSld Nice, we had water blown into the ridge vent and dripped down into the attic, Laura was absolutely insane and reeked havoc on our area.

[@keithray9194]

@@nickb.237 I havent seen Dr Horton here, it's America's first. They buy into the big subdivisions and build extremely cheap, 3 tab shingles, cardboard sheathing that's not even shingles correctly. I was amazed that it was possible thru code here but it is

[@bikefan34]

Great info! I finished my roof on my new construction about 3 months ago following all the information I could find and built over typical code. Low and behold I've done everything suggested in this video for the ultimate strong asphalt shingle roof. That and the shingles I bought are one of the higher performing impact shingles on Fortified's list. Thanks for the confirmation!

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

When the hell did a 10-year old house become an "OLD" house?

[@charlesrodriguez7984]

It never did. It’s older but not old. I consider anything built in 1960-90 old.

[@organicvids]

After 1990 haaaaa

[@Craig6844]

when large builders started cutting so many corers they have round houses

[@jefftee448]

Cuz the Insurance industry says so

[@joed-9940]

Your poor like me😊

[@charlesrichardson8635]

I went by the MN and FL university research. I ended up using the rubber membrane that some call ice damn across the whole deck. The rubber membrane self seals and protects for nail removal. Used the 7/16 advantec decking. Both MN and FL state universities have extensive research on this, too.

[@exit9baller]

This I believed is the best way to go

[@danielcarter491]

With peel and stick on the entire roof, you're probably also going to have to replace the entire deck anytime it needs to be removed. It's probably the ideal answer in hurricane prone areas, but outside of those areas I personally wouldn't want it for my home. I've often thought about installing a baffle or membrane system (not peel and stick) on the interior of the roof that allows airflow in the attic area, but could also shed water out of the eve's air intakes should the worst case scenario happen. It would be a bit like a reverse roof in the attic. It could be sealed where needed with a little expanding foam. Alternatively, simply giving the attic the closed cell foam treatment would also be extremely effective if done in a way that still permits the attic to breathe. It would at least prevent or reduce interior water damage if the roof deck is still in place. EDIT: Let me add that I'm thinking of my older roof, built in the 30s with 4x1 boards. I like it a lot better than the OSB that I see being used universally now days. For that reason, I don't like the idea of using ice and water shield peel and stick on the entire roof.

[@charlesrichardson8635]

@@danielcarter491 You are right but I use a longer life shingle. You have this problem when you replace the shingles in the Ice Dam guard area. The upper costs of replacing the decking materials vs. total damage to the house in high winds and other issues is lower overall as calculated at the University of Minnesota and Florida State in their tests. Nails rust less and there is no path through the membrane as winds try to pull your shingles off over the entire life of the roof. So I am hoping Total Cost of Ownership goes down over the 30 to 50 years. Even with cheaper shingles with damage over time total repairs will go down. ALSO, removal techniques for removing the membrane are improving so hopefully having to remove the entire deck may not be necessary... I'll be dead by the time my roof needs replacement... so if you are younger, maybe you can check up on it? Also the insurance company's reaction was to drop my house insurance costs by 2%, so there is something going on there.

[@normbograham]

the coolest roof I ever worked on was in NC, and it was a roof, over a roof (1920?)! Meaning, there was air flow between the two roofs. The inside roof, could be insulated right up to the roof deck! It must has been done well, because it kept going, and going and going.

[@Ariccio123]

Insulated vented nail base comes close?

[@terrencesicilia8972]

Hey Matt... Just a share; been putting roofs on since 1964 and have never used less than 6 nails per shingle... We give a warrantee greater than Manufacturer... Keep up the great work... Blessings...

[@normanmfakierjr2387]

Matt, definitely one of your best!!! WOW!!! Ton of great info and I like how you let these guys EXPLAIN their products....not SELL their products.

[@overseas_demogod]

Matt, great content! I just reroofed my house and did all this. 8d galvanized ring shank renail. All seams taped. Peel and stick on the eaves, rakes and valleys. IKO Pro system with ridge venting. 6 nails. New continuous venting in the soffits. Gutters and leaf guards. And reinsulated the whole house. Ive been watching your show sir! And when the soffits were off, hurricane ties went on. Mobile, AL.

[@kieferonline]

Proud to hear about high quality construction happening in Mobile!

[@neckofthewoods24]

Lol I got S$it on by Home Depot and others when I bought my 5/8 plywood and told them it was for a roof. They lost their minds as “that’s to thick, we only do 7/16 around here.” Etc etc. glad my engineer and I went 5/8 and 2 3/4 ring shanks. 3” on edges and 4-5” in the middles.

[@TripleIllini]

absolutely nobody: not a single soul: matt: bomber

[@TagiukGold]

Groovy man.

[@sgtace]

B-O-M-B-E-R :D

[@triggeredtroll6466]

Matt gets a free soda at in and out burger: BOMBER!

[@sgtace]

@@triggeredtroll6466 "HELLO AND WELCOME... IIINNNNNN THE BOMBER SHOW!"

[@triggeredtroll6466]

@@sgtace you know his kids lose it when he says that in public 🤣🤣🤣 "dad! No one says that! Please stop!"

[@Rambleon444]

My cheap place in San Diego was built in the 50's, The roof is 3/8" ply with 2 layers of shingles with rafters 24 on center". For some crazy reason, we have never had a problem with now second layer 20-year asphalt shingle roof.

[@Montblanc1986]

A lot of Texas builders were building with OX board cardboard sheathing. A man was blown from his bedroom out of the house onto the ground due to these essentially being the 3 little pigs straw edition.

[@kungfooey6571]

Unfortunately they're still building with that cardboard crap.

[@dg-hughes]

People hide in homes but when you think about it there's not much between you and nature except thing walls if it's brick.

[@9mmkahr]

Ahhh thermoply. Any sheathing you can cut with a razor knife should my outlawed imo. We use it only for air barrier on smaller dropped ceilings and interior, attic-backed walls like in a bonus room.

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

The craziest thing about that cardboard is it's not even cheaper than osb!

[@Natedoc808]

22 years ago in Reno/Tahoe area we were putting down 5/8 OSB 3” ring shanks 6” on the seams, 8” in the field to attach the roof decking- we never had them fail, blow off in 75mph winds or buckle under snow load.

[@tonydoggett7627]

Houses in Australia do not use asphalt shingles. Due to Bushfire ember attack, rainwater collection on rural properties and cyclones on the coast.

[@willdwyer6782]

When I did the roof on my 60+ year old house with a 40+ year old addition in SW Michigan last summer I stripped off four layers of shingles stacked on top of each other on the oldest part of the roof.

[@augustreil]

Did it ever leak ? Thanks.

[@PartTimeYooper]

I sure hope your home is a lot older than 60 years if it had 4 roofs, unless one was rolled roofing. People should never, ever do more than 2 layers and really it should always be stripped it possible

[@skliros9235]

Wow. That's a lot of weight.

[@aaronvan9597]

I've got slate under old t-lock shingles on my 1902 house. No leaks yet...*KNOCKS ON WOOD*

[@willdwyer6782]

@@PartTimeYooper yeah the bottom layer was rolled roofing. The house was built in 1954. I'm guessing the addition was built sometime in the '70s or '80s. I purchased it in December 2019. No leaks that I saw but there were some soft spots when I walked on it so I knew there was some rotted decking to be dealt with. It was actually the OSB decking on the addition that was rotted. The original 1954 roof was decked with hardwood planks that showed no signs of rot. Buried under all those shingles I guess the wood was pretty well protected.

[@lumasjonson]

this is awesome, i know i´ve commented before, but i feel that you guys are giving just ME a masterclass, greetings from Santiago - Chile

[@kentoakley9409]

I have watched a lot of your videos and this to me is by far the most informative, pack a lot of good information into this video. Keep up the good work. thanks

[@stevebowser7248]

In AZ, I see a lot of tile re roof or (what I call) a restack where they reuse the tile and replace the underlay. The asphalt felt just disintegrates in 20 years. I see way too much low quality felt and do minimal to no repairs at the same time. Damaged chimney crickets, rotted trim, damaged vents are just left in place. There are a LOT of small things that can and should be done during a reroof - think of it is a massive life extension on the upper half of the exterior. Its money well spent if done right. Matt, thanks for always showing the RIGHT way to do it.

[@Indiana_Paul]

Go up on the north and west areas of any roof, and check to see how well all the edges sealed... and when supposed "pro" roofers offset an architectural shingle installation only 4" or less, all the way up along a hip, creates another vulnerable edge for winds to grab and remove huge sections. I've also seen that several times. Can't trust Any of these roofing guys, and they also dont like being watched and criticized for dumb stuff they do, or fail to do.. Difficult situations.

[@corinnemuir1542]

Can I critically watch you while making dinner or cleaning your house? There is a level of performance anxiety imposed that impedes your ability for nominal functionality….like you said “ difficult situations”.

[@megenberg8]

@@corinnemuir1542 watch? these days it's videoed as well (and maybe in 'real time' for online viewing)! 🎥🎬⚖

[@KimDe05]

This is great information. In Florida we have the exact problem you are talking about.

[@hansangb]

Besides better roofs and shingles, we also need deadcats for mics! 😁 My ear thanks you.

[@noneyabiz0987]

Man, every time i was your videos i want to rebuild my house as a "Bomber" proof house. The biggest issue aside from cost is how to find a contractor(s) thats willing to do it right & do what im asking versus doing whatever they normally do.

[@Sylvan_dB]

Not only willing, but able - do they know enough to do it right vs. what they have always done? And then the crew actually doing the work...

[@Cormyre]

100% this. I've been looking to get my roof redone, anything approaching stuff Matt suggests? "That's not materials we deal with", "That's overkill for your house"" and whatever other excuse they want to give to NOT do it, feels like if you bring any knowledge to the table your suddenly a troublesome possible customer. Rather annoying.

[@cindyjohnson5242]

Or they tell you they will do and then you find out they didn't. You have to watch them like a hawk!

[@schtinerbock4570]

I've had the foreman tell me "oh yeah don't worry we'll do that, we'll do this, I'll make sure that gets done properly" but he's there a fraction of the time. The rest of the time the laborers from Guatemala and Columbia are just hammering it out the way it's been done since the 80s. These white boys like to nerd out on these videos about all this high tech new building techniques but it ain't gonna be no college educated white boy building your house. Every time I start a new project I just get sick and nauseous knowing I know have to watch people like a friggin hawk and constantly text a foreman who is never on site. Nobody will ever care as much about a home as the homeowner. No matter what slogan they have on the door of their truck.

[@rxonmymind8362]

@@schtinerbock4570 Hire an architect. He'll do the watching.

[@Matt-dc8lp]

Always found it funny when people spend hundreds of thousands (or more) on a house but cheap out on a roof.

[@ReStellar]

Exactly! Also, why not go with metal or tile roof, which are more expensive, but guarantee to stay even during hurricane and hail, AND LAST 20+ YEARS!

[@wgmskiing]

Roof Deck: Random Width rough sawn 1x boards, hand nailed in place Underlayment: Nothing, unless you need felt because it's going to rain during the install Roof material: Locally quarried slate Fasteners and flashing: Copper or stainless Lifetime: 100 years easy Wind resistance: Good enough

[@jameschupp2230]

HMMMM! I have seen some good hail storm tear up slate roofs. It is not a perfect weather protector.

[@wgmskiing]

@@jameschupp2230 Sure, possible, but not very likely. Then again hail is bigger in Texas....

[@n919hj3]

Slates great, but at 5k a square or more it’s not for everyone.

[@michaelyoder7329]

I’ve never met a crew that wasn’t mine that doesn’t blow nails through shingles. Especially in the summer. If you’re a roofer, get a pressure regulator and a gun that has an easy depth adjustment. Doesn’t matter what brand of shingle you use if you don’t monitor nail placement and depth

[@keithray9194]

The majority here still hand nail

[@jaybee1930]

Very well stated

[@conquerordie230]

I'm a fan of covering the entire roof deck (preferably ZIP 5/8" sheathing with ZIP liquid flashing and/or ZIP tape) with Grace Ultra 100% butyl adhesive underlayment. It chemically bonds with the deck much better than fasteners, and it provides protection from temperature and water & ice when lapped over itself. But more importantly it seals around the roof fasteners that you will eventually riddle it with when installing your final roof material.

[@andyenochs1145]

Where can I learn more about this?

[@neckofthewoods24]

But what did the first guy mean by your roof decking has to breath? I did a ice and water shield over the e tire roof and it’s been water proof for several months now. Now I’m wondering what could fail since it’s so air tight.

[@jaybee1930]

Depending where you're located at that could be considered a Bonafide vapor barrier not allowing the moisture from the attic space to rise through the roof

[@dienekes4364]

When I bought my current house (25-year-old doublewide) here in Tucson, it had been empty for 7 years. The roof over one of the bedrooms and over the master bath were completely destroyed. Both the ceilings and floors had to be completely replaced, over the bedroom I had to replace all the way down to the deck. There were also several other places that needed to be repaired. I took the time to examine all the shingles to make sure that all of the edges were bonded to the bottom layer. For those that weren't, I added tar to create that bond. I probably should have replaced the entire roof, including the deck (the original deck material is clearly too thin), but patching cost me probably $600 vs $6000. For me, I'd rather keep on top of examining and repairing the roof I have rather than spend the extra $5400. This is, after all, just a manufactured home.

[@a_life_painted_with_color]

I just realized your channel is just one big commercial and I love it!

[@PeteHansen13]

Matt, I do love how u showcase good products. It’s very informative to me, bc I see it as something I may install someday. I want to see what you have to say about finding good humans. The people. Right? What good are these products without the guys who make them work right? Products are great, but if you don’t have ppl, they are just products. Interested in seeing a video on your ppl.

[@brycerobertson6031]

Talk and certifications don't mean anything if you're crew doesn't install the roof correctly. At 10:39 the starters should be nailed at the drip edge not the top of the starter and at 15:36 he's installing the first shingle and there's no starter.

[@mrhobbs5713]

I agree! There’s no pride in workmanship anymore.

[@luigi_h470]

Agree with 10:39, nailed too high wind will rip shingles up On 15:36 he could have half the starter under it, when he finishes the course up he can slide the starter course under the un-nailed part of the shingle continuing his starter course. Video started at wrong spot. Or was edited to leave that detail out.

[@J210-s7j]

To be fair at 15:36 the starter shingle could be underneath the first shingle and will be installed at the start of the next line. Another note, what I can't identify what was being used here and they don't tell you is to get a manufactures full warranty you basically have to install a roof using their full range of products. Starter shingles, hip and ridge, ice and shield ect. Another thing I really dislike is the way the house was loaded. In Austin you had ABC deliver and roof load the shingles. DO NOT "break" bundles right on the ridge. Secure two bundles (parallel) on each side of the ridge and then stack bundles perpendicular so weight is supported both sides of the ridge. Prevents bundles bent down the middle which can lead to warped shingles.

[@chrisolsen4578]

In Norway its illegal to do anything over 2 meter without scaffolding. My roof is from 1930 original, going to replace it now, but its in good shape no rotten sub roof. I can recommend real wood for roofs osb and ply wood is like asking for problems.

[@mirceamunteanu4791]

fixed the roof 4 times in 11 years, the three little pigs and the wolf story It applies to 99% of houses in North America... :(

[@ScottyDMcom]

I'm in Colorado Springs, and hail has gotten worse in the past 10 years. I'm down by World Area, in the south end of the Springs, and until recently we rarely got more than pea-sized hail (might be several inches). However up in Briargate they've always gotten large hail, and we're starting to get large hail in my neighborhood. Two years ago the hail in Briargate blew fist-sized holes through roof decks, stripped siding, and smashed windows. If the roof deck is too thin, nothing you put over it will save you. In my neighborhood a few cars had their windows blown out by hail, and many homes suffered roof damage. But hail is patchy, one neighbor will have their car smashed, and the next will have only a few small dents on the hood. I also have a cabin west of Pikes Peak. The roof is super worn, but zero hail damage and zero wind damage. Less than a 1000 square feet, so I thought I'd do it myself.

[@captainmo3064]

The roofing nails are also an important often overlooked component. Todays “eg” electro-galvanized (China) are failing after 5 years. I only use “hot dipped” made in USA or stainless. No issues.

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

As much as I hate electro galvanized crap it shouldn't be a problem if the nails are placed properly, they shouldn't get wet. Hot dip galvanized are way better but damn they are way more expensive.

[@User31084]

'So much more bomber!?' You sound like a teenager spending daddy's money at the mall.

[@quickguesswho]

I went with ice and water shield over whole roof to help prevent any issues if something does happen. Conditioned attic: spray foam with supply air and portable dehumidifier. I wanted a sealed seam metal roof 24 gauge but wasn’t in the budget.

[@jameschupp2230]

Good Job! But remember, Not all Ice and Water Shields are the same. The thicker SA give you more protection, and some even have an extra self-adhering on the laps as well for a double bond!

[@neckofthewoods24]

@@jameschupp2230 how’s wip 300?

[@allenhuebner6251]

I can't believe that you guys never said a word about nail placement, I always nail on the nail line and one Inc from the edge of each shingle. I couldn't tell you how many roofs that I've seen guys nailing as far as 12 inches from the edge. You can have the best glue in the world but if it's not nailed properly it doesn't matter.

[@buddyrevell511]

It's hilarious that there are companies like these fortify guys who advise people on how to build roofs the way they should have always been built in the first place.

[@chucky187]

You could always challenge the builders to a fight in the parking lot at 3:00 after school.

[@buddyrevell511]

@@chucky187 only if they touch me.

[@randomrazr]

i watched a new build (not mine) put ashphalt shingles on a roof directly ont he OSB boards. no weather gaurd or anything?

[@boeing757pilot]

So true.. These techniques were taught in the union programs..

[@maryglasser404]

Matt you need to do a episode on the proper order on getting started. You have 4 items icing,tar paper, drip edge, starter strip. The shingle manufacturer can't even get on the same page.

[@buddyrevell511]

When I build my dream home, there will not be a single nail anywhere in the construction.

[@9mmkahr]

Staples beat 8s in my book. Been a carpenter for 18 years and have torn off my fair share of sheets, whether it's floor, wall or roof, new and old. I gotta say, a properly stapled sheet will NOT come off. The osb will break before you can pop staples loose, while a sheet nailed with 8s can be pried off fairly easily with leverage. Ring shanks are very good, but even slightly over-driven nails reduce pull out capacity significantly. Cheers

[@ibiubu99]

Taking apart broken docks in Florida after big storms has shown that ring shanks come out of wood like they were put in with butter. Smooth nails are harder to pull than ring shanks, and spiral nails are king.

[@PartTimeYooper]

I would wholeheartedly disagree. You cant pull off a sheet of OSB with ring shanks without breaking the sheet. No one around here uses staples, but the few applications I've come across, especially stapled shingles, they come out quite easy.

[@9mmkahr]

@@PartTimeYooperit sounds like you dont have much experience with staples in osb. Stapled shingles aren't even code anymore here, and haven't been for a very long time. With 3" o.c. spacing on edges and 4-6 in field depending on municipality, you simply can not remove a sheet of ply. But I can remove a sheet with ring shanks. Whether the nail comes out, or pulls through the plywood, I am able to pull a full sheet off. With staples, you have to cut the sheet up and smash it to bits, there is no pulling. What i think the main problem is, in the real world, is nail guns and laziness with a hammer. The depth has to be set properly and actuator pressure consistent or else you will be constantly over- and under-driving fastners.

[@9mmkahr]

@@ibiubu99 I am not wind... But I have pulled off many sheets in my career and these are my real world findings. In the process of building my house and I am definitely using staples. Truth be told MOST roofs here in Michigan aren't nailed or stapled properly with proper spacing. It's a bad problem here from my point of view.. There isn't a thorough roof sheathing inspection.

[@johnnichols2710]

In California, Roof deck is tied to shear wall for seismic. Staples do not have the tinsel strength of nails. They do make structural screws that have the same strength as its nail equivalent

[@GreatDataVideos]

This is very helpful. We are at the top of a hill and get very high winds (I've seen the shingles flapping up and down). Thanks.

[@donjensen5044]

I loved atlas shingles before this video and I love them even more now. Keep coming with the great content. Thanks Matt!!

[@ToddBizCoach]

This a paid commercial from Atlas. Of course, interviewee is going to compliment Atlas.

[@grand04gt]

As i tell people if your going to cut cost in any spot do not make it your roof or weatherproofing. Its so much more important than people think till they have an issue. Skimp out on your things like paint or counter tops that is easy to change out later on. When the guy from Atlas started talking about it went from SPS to quad 4 (could be wrong on the specifics) its hard to understand unless your in the field and know the technology lingo but he did say a bit later on. Maybe giving a little changes like its more flexible or different changes for thermal shock would appeal more to people with a shorter attention span. You guys all did a great job shedding some light on a very important and often under looked part of building

[@franklassek4252]

The look on Matt's face when he knows someone's "selling" something is hillarious.

[@rossfudd256]

If the wind resistants of the fortified program is different enough, Are insurance companies lowering insurance for meeting the standard? Savings you can give the home owner over the long term.

[@Goofketeers]

Great question. That is the key.

[@jaybee1930]

@@bert1450 when I was a kid I'm 67 now the head of a roofing nail with almost the size of a nickel the head of a roofing now used in a coil nailer are probably approximately 50% less the head of the nail is what holds the shingle to the surface of the substrate besides the fact the clowns using the nail gun most of the time high now it or they're not going through the laminated portion of the shingle they're nailing it wrong which by the way voids the warranty

[@philipfitzsimmons1552]

can you do a video on different types of cladding for cold climates e.g. bricks, blocks, render foam, hebel, hardy boards, stone cladding, and the differences in isulation with each of the products.

[@comingtofull-ageinchrist6736]

ever since seeing Kyle with RR Buildings us the Weather Logic system on roofs and walls, I've been a fan of the Weather Logic system!

[@valleyhomeinspectors3839]

What about the importance of the proper drip edge. I've seen major issued because the wrong drip is used.

[@dannylayton1106]

Matt, I so appreciate your drive for superior products and thank you for opening my perspective to better building practices. I will say that in seeking a better build for my current home I chose Lowe's Premiere Contractor and a cost of $175k. What a fiasco and lesson learned! My wife and I chose this as we entered our retirement age to prepare and was raped by Lowe's. By God's grace I haven't filed lawsuits, have corrected many horrible mistakes such as 4' holes in our ceiling to seal airflow, obliterated HVAC duct systems and a endless list. However yes they made the blue room- blue, their standards. I am now concerned that our attic is grossly overtaxed and we are still using 60s insulation. Can ANYONE direct me to a reputable source to tackle a conditioned attic, which will probably include replacing 60s rafters for better HVAC equipment enclosure. Currently spending $300-400 per month on utilities for a 2800 sq ft home. We had hoped by using a nationally known entity this would have been addressed in our retirement years. Please, I need wise guidance. Thanks again and have a Happy New Year for all of you guys out there building better homes for people.

[@carlmarker9257]

you hired lowes contractors for 175k? youd have had better luck offering a random mexican in front of the lowes 10 k

[@dannylayton1106]

@@carlmarker9257 That is what Lowe's did. Subbed them as their "Premier Contractor" and against their own written contract, fraud!

[@carlmarker9257]

@@dannylayton1106 if you have proof file lawsuit dont wait they will settle fast i bet

[@jameschupp2230]

Hi Matt, Valley metal is still more protection than the thin Ice N' water SA. Self-Adhering membrane on a Re-Roof in the valleys, can be easily damaged by the workers, especially on a steeper roof. I have been using valley metal for almost 20 years and have never had a problem. But previously, when I was beginning, I used 90 lb rolled roofing, and the workers would maybe step in the valley or drop something, and damage would occur. There is some benefits to Self-Adhering, but there is also the ability to have it be damaged. The valley is one area you don't want to have a problem. IMHO

[@PartTimeYooper]

I always laugh when people dont put metal in the valleys. As you said, good chance someone put a hole of some type in the I/W. Same as only using 3 ft IW on 4 pitch roof in northern climate. Have you people seen how much ice gets up there? That being said, I'm glad I'm out of the roofing game. My frustrations from the manufacturers on proper install techniques pushed me to the boiling point.

[@davidquirk8097]

My roof is 120 years old. Welsh slate, installed when the house was built. I know that you get different weather in the US but why do you build with such (to my mind, anyway) inferior materials? Surely, by now, there ought to be a better product than asphalt shingles?

[@Felix_Effex]

our roof is major messed up from baseball cluster hails one night then the next night sheer winds.. our adjuster tried to tell us they wouldn't cover previous wear... the roof is five years old and was in excellent shape, I know because I go up and clean the gutters twice a year.. thanks for the measley 2200.. what a jerk..

[@ChrisMaveric]

Hmmm... 6,000 less nail holes? My math says 1,280 less nails used for a 40sq roof. Still a nice little time saver for the install. I, having been a roofer half my life, personally like the way fewer courses look on the appearance. Excellent video for "what's new" in the residential roofing space... nice job!

[@pdureska7814]

i love these videos you make. i am going to retire in a year or so and plan on moving to southeast Georgia by the coast to be close to family. i would love to see you do a video or a series of videos on what you would consider "best practice" with regards to the " Bones " of a solid house built in that area of the country which is subject to hurricanes, flooding, wind and tornadoes. like what to do with crawl spaces or houses built on piers. whats the best siding or exterior material (including best vapor barrier, insulation, sheathing and water management behind the exterior wall) , the roof and hurricane strengthening. Best plumbing/electrical/windows/doors. i mean from the standpoint of hurricane winds the Fortified build seems to be a good starting point. i am sure i can get an idea but the sheer number of videos you produce is , well, overwhelming for me the consumer trying to make decisions. thanks so much and keep up the good work.

[@williampockoski5029]

Thank you the great roofing information and the new technology being used.

[@Sleepdroidstudios]

I'm not seeing that starter strip you mentioned. That guy on the bottom of the screen at 15:35 is putting shingles right to the edge with no starter strip. Seems fishy. haha.

[@Dancing_Alone_wRentals]

Hmmmmm

[@widjadija]

It’s funny because a few seconds later, the guy says how important it is that the roofer (installer) is on board too. I’ve worked with a ton of installers and it really is hard to find a crew that does the right thing every time, I’ve luckily found a crew that always does it right without having to be told or watched.

[@Dancing_Alone_wRentals]

@@widjadija Lottery winner....

[@robertsimmons1264]

It was a...

[@lbyoung8420]

The starter strip he’s talking about is there at 15:35, it just looks like he has about a 1 inch overlap between it and the shingle. Which defeats the purpose. As a roofing contractor I’ve seen this way too many times.

[@9mmkahr]

Atlas will void warranty on a spray foam, unvented, conditioned attic. Just a heads up! Stick with the big guys if going that route.

[@finalf137]

Which big guys?

[@mefferso04]

That's definitely something good to know. I do, however, question how often people are making warranty claims on roof shingles compared to those making insurance claims after a storm. Also, shingle companies appear to be even better than insurance companies at denying claims: www.roofingcalc.com/pros-cons-atlas-shingles/

[@9mmkahr]

@@mefferso04 That's a good point...in case of a bad storm its most likely the insurance company that's footing the bill. I'm glad you've brought this up, because i like the Atlas shingles

[@PartTimeYooper]

Shingle warranties aren't worth the paper they are written on. They ONE cover depreciated shingle materials ONLY unless it was installed by a certified roofer for that brand, and even then, they always try some BS like you use too many nails, too few nails, etc. Just do what I did to the Certaineed rep who denied a claim from faulty shingles. We asked him to check out one more area, and then pulled the ladder off the roof. I told him to sit up there and think about what a shitty company he worked for and how he was screwing over a hardworking client of mine.

[@kdegutis]

Enjoy the professional content you and your crew put together. My only concern, the shakiness of the video. Suggest using a tripod and/or a gimbal to stabilize the video content. High quality, detailed content deserves the same attention to detail in the video production. God bless.

[@bethmorano1452]

Really?

[@711yada]

yeppers...especially since he has a bonified "film crew". Shaky Cam should remain in horror films and bad tv. Stop unecessary motion, lock it down!

[@Imwright720]

I’m in south Florida and want to get a better roof. Luckily I have a hip roof. It’s strange but they don’t do anything special here. They did change to 2 30lb tar paper layers. I plan on adding in a waterproof membrane over the 2 layers of tar paper. I believe it’s 6” tins or plastic holding down here everywhere including the field. I will absolutely check FORTIFIED’s website. Starter shingles here with tar holding it down here.

[@PartTimeYooper]

If you are going to increase the cost 5-10% by taping the seams, you might as well just cover the whole roof in ice and water, as that tape probably isnt going to hold in a high wind storm either.

[@augustreil]

Agree 100% That one guy peeled the tape right off after putting it on.

[@believerscc]

@@augustreil Zip tape after pressure rolling with a j roller ain't gonna budge. I used the zip stretch tape around a ptac (hotel style ac unit) opening, messed it up on a corner. Thought I could roll it flat. Nope. Had to cut it off with my knife and multitool blade.

[@Jonjolt]

Go buy some VHB tape and apply it as directed, lets see you try and remove it.

[@augustreil]

@@Jonjolt, Yeah, my bad. Spoke too soon, thanks.

[@PartTimeYooper]

@@believerscc that's assuming you can get a good, clean surface. Maybe for new construction, but I'm not going to tear off a roof on existing house, spend time to tape each seam, and then go through the rest of the motions with ice/water and underlayment. As I said before, and for a 5-10% markup, ice/water the entire roof and know you are covered way better than just tape. Only downside is the NEXT reshingle is always a best

[@wrenchday2473]

might want to do some corrections. 5/8 board is code compliance for 24" beam span. IRC R803.1

[@gregw.4725]

A radiant barrier on the plywood deck is waterproof, if treated like tar paper. Don't forget the 1" air gap spacing in between the roofing material and the radiant barrier! Yes, who wants water on the living room floor, isnt that ridiculous! Also, can you please make the asphalt shingle resistant to heat like a fire brick?

[@neckofthewoods24]

Not saying it’s right but my shingles aren’t getting installed for some time! Spent WAY to much but the whole roof got a thick layer of ice and water shield on it that now after being in the sun is glued on like no other. It’s been water proof for several months now. If the nails stay and the shingles get blow off, the self healing layer should keep it water proof.

[@brittanyleblanc9500]

I just had a fortified roof quoted it was closer to 30% of the project cost *love your content Matt but the fortified guy doesn't know how much his program and certifications actually cost*

[@user-ws3rw9ur4y]

Of the total house build cost right?

[@brittanyleblanc9500]

That would be waaaay too much on the total job cost. I just had the roof replaced on a 15 yr old house 5% of my total rebuild cost is 25% more than the cost of my entire roof replacement.

[@IBHS_org]

While the FORTIFIED standards are available to use as a guide (and can be downloaded here for free: fortifiedhome.org/standards/), there are costs associated with gaining the added protection they offer. Because FORTIFIED requires upgrades from common building codes, there will be extra costs to cover the materials and labor that make homes stronger. These costs will vary based on your home’s individual design, as well as the specific requirements of the building code in your area. Additionally, there is a cost to obtaining third-party verification of the FORTIFIED upgrades, which is required in order to receive the designation needed for most insurance discounts and mitigation credits. That said, upgrading to a newly constructed FORTIFIED Gold home can add 1%-3% to the total budget. When re-roofing a 2,000-square-foot home, the cost increase is typically between $1,000 and $3,000.

[@thinkmorgan3022]

I can’t believe some of the rooftop workers aren’t wearing safety harnesses.If they would fall off that high up probably wouldn’t make it.

[@Nanan00]

Ice & water shield should be used on all valleys always, that is where almost all leaks start due to water weeping up the shingles and causing rot.

[@Krunch2020]

Not where I live.

[@randyhurtado1745]

At about two minutes they’re showing some b roll of wind blowing a roof off a structure and if you look closely, it appears that deck was Fortified. At least all the seams were taped and that’s not common for regular decking but it’s very common for four deified roofs. Kind of ironic if you ask me

[@MrSymbolic7]

Great information , but no roofer is doing this in my area of Texas and I am located in a Coastal County !

[@themadatheist1976]

Damn, 10 yo house needing a new roof?

[@PartTimeYooper]

Must have used Atlas shingles!

[@swingerhead]

Pretty typical in areas of Texas

[@daveklein2826]

Not uncommon after storm damage

[@themadatheist1976]

@@swingerhead idk, I live in Tampa Bay.

[@jameschupp2230]

Welcome to Texas!

[@rxonmymind8362]

Tape the seams then mass loaded vinyl on the roof from car audio. Then button cap SCREW each area. Then metal roof with zero overhang to prevent winds from catching the roof.😁

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

The reason they look for damage on the back of the shingle is because that's where the damage occurs. The fiberglass gets damaged then long term the shingle will break down, lots of shingles will look just ok on top after getting hit by hail, but they will be damaged underneath and have a much shorter life. Checking just on top is not sufficient, you have to at least check both sides.

[@MrRerod]

Great info.. Two layers of 30# is better than synthetics? Does that require roofing cement to keep from bellowing?

[@robertgreatsinger9179]

Thank Matt and co.

[@scottfortune9016]

SUPER DAVE!!! I just realized who you remind me of! Lol

[@SandySez]

Damn, that's a blast from the past! lol

[@brotherfred2669]

Wrong assumption that roofing contractors will follow the guidelines meticulously. The workers doing the work have to share the same values and concerns as the owner. Rarely does that happen unless the owner is on site overseeing and inspecting all thework being done.

[@gregscheyd4131]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH BROTHER FRED !!!! I HAVE 4 BROTHERS MYSELF , ONE IS NAMED FRED ....what you said is absolutely correct , and part of the PROBLEM !!!!!!

[@wally6193]

Well I'm not a roofer but the first problem I see is they used OSB instead of plywood.

[@jameschupp2230]

Hi Wally, In 2003, 1/2" plywood went from 5-Ply to 3-Ply.... What that means is, on the 3-Ply, if one of the plies is stronger on one face side than the other face side, it will curl. If it starts curling, you can use many long screws, but will pull away from the screws. OSB does not warp like plywood.... It stays nice and flat. Yes the plywood is more rigid, but you don't have the decking lines in the roof from warping, visibly seen after you shingle the roof.

[@wally6193]

@@jameschupp2230 well maybe it should be 5/8" then. I just don't think OSB on the roof is a good or smart idea.

[@jameschupp2230]

@@wally6193 Correct! In my mind ever since the 80's when I built my first house.

[@metalguru6152]

@@wally6193 other problem with OSB is fire, all the glue in the OSB is very flammable. Plywood will burn fast too but not as fast as OSB according to what I read on the internet from people claiming to be FireFighters. They said Building collapse happens faster w OSB instead of plywood. -Go grab a torch and carefully test it in your own backyard.

[@squeekhobby4571]

Good info. What about 2 layers of seathing connected by 1x4 to accommodate ventilation? How does this hold in a strong wind scenario?

[@keithray9194]

I'm no engineer but either your bottom layer would have to be thick enough to serve as a structural member or the top layer would have to be fastened to the roof trusses. You could get an engineer to speck it out for your wind code and they would show nailing details for either scenario. I really like the idea of two sheathing layers for venting. It seems like it would solve a lot of the small issues with sealed atticks

[@squeekhobby4571]

@@keithray9194 ; thanks Keith. Spending a little for double seathing will assist in ventilation and also water leaks. Should pay off in long run

[@keithray9194]

@@squeekhobby4571 that's exactly how I feel as well. I even read an article about a guy that did techshield on the top layer to limit the thermal pass thru. I would love to do it to my house

[@squeekhobby4571]

@@keithray9194 : even Matt Risinger did the same.

[@mjohnson7325]

Question; is it good idea to install water and ice sheeting entire roofs decking?

[@charlesrichardson8635]

Check out the University of Minnesota and Florida State University on this subject. The idea is going to be code in Florida some day, and MN is eyeing it.

[@xanthippe_2695]

@@charlesrichardson8635 can you provide a link to this study? I googled it and can't find anything. I actually live in Tallahassee.

[@gj1234567899999]

I don’t like how we have wood construction in the US. We have tornados in the Midwest and south, and hurricanes in the gulf and east coast. We need to build out of concrete. Also doesn’t rot or suffer termite damage. I hear people all the time visit the US from other parts of the world comment a lot how flimsy our houses are. In other parts of the world, wood are what shacks are made from until you save enough money to build a proper house of concrete, steel, or masonry.

[@Corsonmcnash]

Respectfully disagree. It's quality of construction and materials choices and almost more critically, design decisions that actually make a house flimsy or well built. Comes down to lowest common denominator building and designing and short term profit margins for subdivisions and tract home builders. Every material has it's strengths and wood is certainly no exception.

[@oldworldchris4187]

I like good quality roofing!

[@paulflanagan2325]

Mr. Risinger: Life Roofing and lack of fall protection are an oxymoron...

[@MRGF78]

150mph... impressive... Good session...

[@dunep6465]

Matt, longevity of Atlas shingles, compared to competitors, and types???

[@jameschupp2230]

It looks like Atlas is trying to Re-Brand themselves and step up their game. I like the larger shingle size. As far as the SBS Polymers, The Malarkey Legacy Impact Resistant shingles are IMHO the best on the market for years for preventing hail damage. The Malarkey has had the Patent on the SBS Polymer technology, I don't know what happened, But The Atlas Pinnacle shingle though, is famous for what looked like light to medium hail damage when it aged, because the granule would pop off when moisture would get behind. The granule in what looked like it had a coating mixed together, But Insurance adjusters see it afar off.... And they will tell you it is Not hail damage... But that being said, actual hail damage will look a little different.

[@onthelinewithjr1851]

Atlas roof , Im sold!!!!

[@scottibass]

I thought that was a check under the shingles in the thumbnail. I was like yep, that would do it

[@roupa131]

Education is key. I’ve lived the losses before shutting the door.

[@lyfandeth]

What about cut nails? I have been told they hold down better than even ring nails, because they spread the wood fiber instead of just punching a hole in it.

[@TableRockDiverDougB]

Why wouldn't you use screws to hold the roof deck down??

[@gregscheyd4131]

I have thought a lot about that myself , and all I can come up with is the screws may be IMPOSSIBLE TO GET OUT AT A LATER DATE , AND YOU MIGHT NEED TO CUT THE RAFTERS out also in places . If I do use screws for anything , I usually put a piece of masking tape over it , to help the situation out in the future at least somewhat ... for example , if screws ARE painted over several times , you either need to dig the head of the screw out with a utility knife or whatever , or tear the whole assembly down !!!! One of my old bosses had a most wonderful screw-up that was on a shaft , about 32" or 3' long , that we used to screw down subflooring from a standing position !!!!!! DONT KNOW WHO MADE IT BUT IT WAS LITERALLY PRICELESS : I BELIEVE HE PAID ABOUT $550 for it ..... KEEP THINKING BUDDY !!!!!!

[@spacecoastz4026]

Did anyone notice that at 23:33 the shingle already tore apart?

[@gregscheyd4131]

You can have OSB : I GOT NO USE FOR IT ....... although I do like the lines they put at 16 and 24 " marks , if you throw some more money at em ........

[@tedsheldon11]

so breaking the shingles over the ridge like that...voids the warranty?

[@nrao8977]

Matt could you do one for residential flat roof? Preferably with a terrace? For Austin area? Thanks

[@JamesClark-zt9ze]

sadly, we tried quoting our roof for a new build and the price difference is quite astronomical (10K vs 21K to go with a Fortified certified roofing contractor

[@riftalope]

There used to be (1987) tar in calking tubes. It was meant for driveways and parking lots. My dad the small contractor edged roofs with it. Valleys too.

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

They still sell that, and higher quality sealants to reseal lifted shingles.

[@tedsmith5058]

Hello from the great state of Michigan

[@kawkvulcan500]

Question... Are new roofing products just as good or better than early 80s tech? My 40yr old roof... looks bad but never a leak, was damaged by Ida. She put a tree on it. The only shingles damaged or lifted were the ones hit by the tree branches! Should I upgrade or just go with what I had before? 15lb felt and 3tab? Upgrades would be syn layment and such.

[@jenkinseric2]

I won't have ANY osb in my house. I have torn things apart that are built with OSB and the nails just pull through. and the offgassing is horrendous.

[@BigTee-lp7qu]

Nice to see on the drone footage that the roofing company and installation crew were failing to use a starter course on that hip roof pictured. Hope you pointed that out to this ""I'm the super professional installer dude" who recommends starter courses. LOL