Traffic Lawyer: How to Beat a Speeding Ticket

Motorcycling is a tonne of fun, right up to the point where you get zapped by the po-po, maybe going a touch too fast or maybe not. Three days later, you get your certificate of achievement in the mail and a not-so-pleasant fine in tow. What’s next, cowboy? (Links and details below)
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[@noeljonsson3578]

the only acceptable response to “do you know why i pulled you over” when you’re on a motorcycle is to say “i wasn’t wearing my seatbelt?”.

[@boldCactuslad]

haha, good one! i do not know if this is a local law or an America thing, but here the cops are required to tell you instantly why you are being pulled over. i'm sure a crafty cop or two have found a way to sneak the "how fast were you going" question in there in some other form, maybe

[@hannutaskinen2032]

Unless its the BMW scooter thingy wich had seatbelt🤪 Dont know if it was ever sold in Canada tho. And if the law says you must use it since its propably the only one with seatbelt ever made. What an odd concept and luckily it didnt spread to other models.

[@GIJOE573]

I can't wait to use that one

[@nos9784]

@@hannutaskinen2032 bmw c1 with seatbelt: it was actually a feature to make it more accessible- due to the belt, windshield and roll cage, you didn't need a fitting helmet or personal motorcycle clothes- perfect for a shared vehicle. It was never aimed towards the "cool and fun" market :D I think it really made sense in that case, and it'd be nice if there where more motorcycles/ scooters aimed at "providing a good, dry, safe ride for people with limited equipment". That'd be a way to cut down on miles traveled by car, and move the perception of motorcycles a little further from "that hobby for crazy people" to "that smart, efficient, fun way to move one or two people".

[@zedex1226]

"Do you know why I pulled you over?" "Because I let you?"

[@iHateHDs]

Can we just all appreciate this mans video quality.

[@josiahbaumgartner7643]

You can't, it's in HD CHECKMATE

[@bob84409]

Every video is very well done, pleasure to watch

[@Darkest_Soul_187]

Can you all just fucking stop saying that and realize that this is a company, not a one man show

[@TheAlphaSquad]

@@Darkest_Soul_187 Does that not make it good though?

[@markdesjardines6209]

bruh white people silently happy to take due credit away from the real MVP working they asses off with no recognition. cinematographer editor’s name sounds black or Fijian descent. give them props instead

[@rowleyj31]

I learned after my first two tickets on a motorcycle to just lawyer up. My regular dealership got me in touch with a specialist, never stepped in court, always got the tickets dismissed, and only once had dismissal with restrictions (dont get another ticket in 6 months). Well worth the $300 to avoid the headache and increase in insurance premiums. I also stopped riding sport bikes and switched to a DR650......more my style of fun anyways. Side note, thanks to the cops who pulled me over to let me know I had a light out or to check and make sure my turn signal wasnt jammed. Those kind of wellness/safty checks can save a life.....mine specifically.

[@brickson98m]

Don’t confuse wellness checks with ticket fishing, though. Many cops will stop you for minor things like that just to sniff around and try to find something more major to cite you for.

[@nicholasmanson8615]

​@@brickson98mdefinitely. But even so, being made aware your indicator is malfunctioning is honestly worth the added douchebaggery. We all know no one's out there in the morning doing a pre ride check every single time, haha

[@brickson98m]

@@nicholasmanson8615 nah, I’d rather have a malfunctioning indicator than have my rights infringed upon. 🤷🏻‍♂️ but that’s just me.

[@grren1782]

Average citizen: "speed limits are for safety" the most Christian of motorcycle KZbinrs: "Here's how you get away with speeding". the motorcycle community really has a unique outlook on this whole thing don't we

[@CreatureOTNight]

Speed limits have a time and place. Reeeeligion really doesnt in a modern soeciety apart from terrorising good everyday people.

[@bbmoti]

Is the current speed limits are for safety, then police are for making money.

[@metaphorpritam]

@@CreatureOTNight ' Reeeeligion really doesnt in a modern soeciety apart from terrorising good everyday people' LOLzzxx....Any form of ideology like Fascism, Communism, including religion, has the capability to do that. Religion is just a symptom, not a cause.

[@bagoston325]

The average citizen is unfortunately dumb, believes everything, usually they have a basic driver's licence for cars, and use them as the means to get from A to B. Road users who actually understand and enjoy driving, have a more advanced look on rules and safety, because they know their roads, and know themselves. Good speed limits are implied with strategically placed scenery, and not enforced with speed cameras. Trees close to a narrow road imply a greater danger, so drivers subconsciously slow down. This is why rally driving looks dangerous. Having a road be wide, with shallow ditches on the side and no brush or trees doesn't really pose a threat to the motorist, therefore you drive faster. Hence why circuit racing looks comparatively safe. You don't look at the speedo every 5 seconds while you drive, you get your info from the scenery. This is why speed limits sometimes seem dumb, and advanced road users are usually looking at how to circumvent getting caught while going fast.

[@alistairs8495]

"Here's how you get away with speeding" is a child's understanding of the content of this video. Christians are not prohibited by their faith from obtaining legal advice and/or services.

[@b16da93]

A good lawyer knows the law a great one knows the judge.

[@thecatskitten6302]

b16da9 no

[@BadgerScrub]

@@thecatskitten6302 What do you mean? Courthouses are inundated with all sorts of politics.

[@calvinnyala9580]

That's corruption. Literally.

[@JohnDoe-jl3em]

@@calvinnyala9580 That's America literally, when I figured out how much BS was in our system I was pissed. But I can't do anything about it.

[@dushk0]

So the "great" lawyer is a lazy spineless shit who is useless when a great judge presides the court, right?

[@jered2177]

You don't get a speeding ticket on a klr... unless you're in a school zone

[@joelvandingstee7962]

Alabama DS unfortunatly sir, you can. Losing cargo from the milkcrate as topcase can get you a fine

[@dragonrider385]

Littering??? It can happen. Or what ever they want to call it.

[@jered2177]

@@joelvandingstee7962 😂

[@ChuckBeefOG]

I got pulled over in 2003 on my buddies 1975 Honda 49cc pedal-start moped. Pumped up the tires rock hard and wound it out on the biggest hill in town. Did a whopping 38mph in a 30 zone. The cop just laughed at me and asked if i was going for a speed record, i had to say yes and tell him how we preped the bike for the speed run.

[@Sakraholic]

Oof

[@grendul4497]

This is actually not a bad video. As a cop, I often watch these for fun to see some of the hilariously bad tactics that are offered up. I did note some discrepancies but I'm sure they are just jurisdictional. For example, here in Ca, we do not attempt to make plea deals. Additionally, If I know that a lawyer is hired for defense, that does not cause me to better prepare my case, as my case is prepared for report to an open and public court room (I would always have a professional case). The best way to beat a speeding ticket, is not to get it. Now, there are a million different kinds of departments, laws and officers that focus in different areas of enforcement. I typically am not interested in traffic (being a major metropolitan) officer, however, I will make an exception to stop an individual who is unsafe. If you're doing 100 mph in a 65 at 2 am with nobody on a desert freeway, I don't care. You are a willing participant in your own risk and are not actively endangering others. If you are doing 30 mph in a 25, weaving through traffic, dodging a pack of kids in the crosswalk all while talking on your cell phone, yeah, we're gonna have a little chat. Also, I'll help all ya speeders out (at least for Ca). There are two categories of speed law that are broken in this state. 1. Is driving faster than the posted speed limit. and. 2. Driving at an unsafe speed. You have a snowball's chance in hell trying to beat #1. But, #2 is actually the more common one that people are cited for. This means that the Officer must clearly present a case, showing that the speed the defendant was traveling, was in fact, unsafe. This means that if you can safely travel faster than the posted speed limit, it is technically legal. Disclaimer: I do not advocate, condone or encourage speeding or operating a vehicle in an unsafe manner. The above is just to provide insight if you happen to already be in this situation. Also, I cannot guarantee judgement by any judge or magistrate. Also, just because I probably wouldn't write you a ticket, doesn't mean that the next 10 cops you meet wouldn't. Drive safe, ride safe, and be safe. Cheers!

[@orangelemon9786]

🤝

[@T-boneAficionado]

While watching this video, I found myself saying "Or just dont speed.."

[@IdanKashani]

How does one go about trying to negotiate a plea deal in CA? Do we ask the officer or the prosecutor? I know lawyers do it all the time.

[@grendul4497]

@@IdanKashani You will typically have your lawyer present the deal to the ADA or the Officer. You can, however, in infraction cases, purpose the deal directly to the Officer if you know a lesser charge (ie, no-point charge) and the subsequent associated Vehicle Code. Most people do not know the alternate charges and would typically rely on an attorney.

[@brickson98m]

I think more cops need to focus on the “is it dangerous” aspect. They’d waste people’s time far less, and their own. Me getting a ticket when I’m going with the flow of traffic and I just got picked out of the bunch is the only way I’ve ever gotten a ticket. Is it really dangerous if everyone else is doing that speed? I’d argue it’s more dangerous to go slower than the speed of traffic and cause an obstruction. Same cop pulled me over both times about 6 months apart. Both times it was reduced to a parking ticket with the fine being doubled. It’s a money game for them, it’s not about safety. And it’s disgusting. Policing for profit needs to end. The oath sworn by officers needs to be kept in mind more often. And more expensive mental health testing and background checking needs to be done before people are hired. Hot head ego trippers are taking over policing.

[@stephenharriau1406]

“Do you know why I stopped you?” Revenue Generation?

[@derp195]

Gotta meet those quotas by the end of the month!

[@eternalskeptic1]

I like how he actually puts in some work on his videos before hand. As opposed to the guys that just ramble on for the whole vids. Thanks for the hard work and great videos @FortNine.

[@wokeupandsmellthecoffee214]

“My bike looks like a rolling violation” fcking brilliant 🤣

[@autofiras]

I died laughing at this one 😂

[@g496r500t]

He didn’t come up with that he just used it

[@znoppen]

@@g496r500t and? still a funny line

[@dailyshitter]

Q: How to beat speed ticket A: Drive faster than Cop

[@chrisbraid2907]

A LOT Faster and smear something dark on your number plate to make it unidentifiable ....

[@just-dl]

Chris Braid disagree. I make sure the plates are easy to read. Since they’re not mine...😜

[@richardmillhousenixon]

@@danb7067 the most common police helicopter, the Robinson R66 turbine, has a maximum cruise speed of 127mph. My Ford Focus can outrun a police helicopter.

[@cmdrratzass7305]

Tribe of the Iron Flame No, you can’t. You have to follow curves in the road, take turns, evade other vehicles... So even if you’re pushing it really hard your average speed will probably not even reach 70 mph. Meanwhile the chopper can move in a straight line (so less total distance) at a higher and constant speed. Unless you are on a completely free highway, your top speed is meaningless.

[@johnbarron4843]

Cant beat a radio

[@Accurize2]

I'm a cop and radar/lidar instructor. I can tell you my radar and lidar doesn't care about the size or loudness of your vehicle when it displays it's target speed. To make a valid speeding citation (at least in the U.S.) you have to have an objective target speed by a certified measurement device. For radar this means it is tested at the start of shift and immediately after the stop with tuning forks. Now if I see a motorcycle or car fly past at triple digit speeds...I can make the stop without an exact measurement for reckless operation (subjective)...but what we are talking about in this video is a standard, run-of-the-mill speeding ticket (objective). Also, I have cited dozens of cars for speed over the years...but I can't remember ever citing a motorcyclist for speed. Speaking for my department, we love motorcycles...one of our cruisers is now sitting outside just so we can park our bikes inside during our shifts. Edit: Other than that...pretty good advise. I don’t do the whole “do you know why I stopped you?” thing. I just introduce myself and say “the reason I stopped you is...”. Then as far as whether or not I ticket. I don’t base it on demeanor or anything like that...people have bad days, me included and I’m not looking to pile it on. I just say “do you know if you’ve been stopped for speed (or whatever the reason for stop) in the last year?” Some know, others don’t. Regardless, then I say “if you haven’t been stopped for speed in the last year in my records, I’ll get you outta here with a warning. If you have, I’ll be issuing a citation”. Sorta makes it less personal and more based on the need to remedy poor driving habits.

[@warhokn4178]

Thats a really good way to do things. I know my comment is late. Similarily, I do the same thing with writing up employees at work. I go by the standard and not personal relationships, because then everything would be personal.

[@4fiHysteria]

This is old but the point is not that the radar will see a difference, but that the majority of the time an officer is more likely to think you are speeding and try to get you on a bike than in a car, where most of the time if you aren't speeding more than everyone else around is you won't be pulled over. But a bike doing 55 in a 45, same speed as everyone else, is actually quite likely to be pulled over instead of everyone else.

[@KevinSmith-qi5yn]

@@4fiHysteria In CA, going the same speed as everyone else is a legal defense as long as everyone else is not driving dangerously.

[@scoops2]

I'd have loved to be treated that way. I got my first ticket 6 years after I had started driving. Cop stopped me as I was accelerating on a lane that turned into an onramp/highway. I told him I'd never had a ticket much less a warning in my 6 years of driving, I'd appreciate if just this one time he could give me a warning and I'll happily accept the ticket if there's a next time. His response "My job isn't to give warnings" and then he also sent me to a mandatory inspection cause my bike was missing a few reflectors. IIRC he gave me only 48 hours to present for inspection or I'd receive a further fine. Oh and even better, I literally had a pack of reflectors in my backpack, I was trying to put the bike back to stock at the time so I had bought them. I told him that and he said "well then 48 hours should be plenty". Mind you I've never met a polite cop in my city so no real surprise there. Horrible culture of rudeness and power-tripping they have.

[@cyjanek7818]

Thing is that because motorcycle appears faster one would measure it's speed more often because they appear faster than someone next to them

[@cube1cze]

"Ryan Fortnite" It was at this moment Ryan knew.. He f*ed up

[@Garuda361]

I saw that, didn't think anything of it, then about 30 seconds later started thinking "Did he just put Ryan Fortnite on the ticket?"

[@31Ramble]

For that, the category of the video is gonna be changed to Gaming lol. Squeakers incoming!!!

[@kerrykgraham2391]

He was talking about the officer making mistakes in writing the ticket. Thats why it was misspelled

[@lompy529]

kerryk graham no shit

[@rock9009]

What does f*ed up mean did you mean f*cked up

[@TheVestibulian]

I once got pulled over after being lit up (without my knowledge) for about 2km doing maybe 110km/h around some corners in a 50km/h limit. After some banter with the cops ("nice bike" "thanks, do you ride?") he asked me how fast I thought I was going, I gave them an obviously bullshit "uhh... maybe 60 in a 50 zone?" ($250 is better than losing my license) to which he laughed, said "good answer", and let me off with a warning. It's important to scope out the cop you're working with before you follow this advice, as I'm pretty sure if I'd stayed perfectly silent for the duration of the traffic stop, they would have had my bike on the back of a tow truck in no time at all.

[@bremcrumbs5450]

Fully agree... i did the same thing as you... but a little more 😬 anyway next cop shows up, first thing he said was "Yeah probably shouldn't do that hey" had a quick chat, showed him I'm a decent human with no prior record and he reduced my suspension by half and gave the minimum fine and ignored/didn't even acknowledge the other stuff I did.

[@TheVestibulian]

@@bremcrumbs5450 Now that I'm thinking about it, I was on my way to a mate's place and my pockets were stuffed with bags of weed (was not intoxicated at all). Really dodged a bullet that night. If you just treat cops like the human beings they are, chances are they'll take it easy on you. If you're really unlucky you'll catch that dickhead on a power trip but, most of the time, they're just normal people working their shift trying to keep people safe.

[@mikeylikesit6588]

Keep your veteran id in-front of your drivers license so he/she see it when you fish out your driver license. Most US cops are vets or atleast a good percentage.

[@IbangedYaMama]

@Derek Frampton PaPa-D It works in Canada too. Usually if you're a Vet, EMT, Firefighter or even a security guard they'll let you off.

[@mikeylikesit6588]

Derek Frampton PaPa-D that’s why I added in the US. You can’t have Ryan all to yourself ya greedy prick

[@randallwong7660]

As a police officer, this is a great presentation of the point of law. Just remember that those officers that write violations tickets are quite comfortable in court as compared to the disputant (certificate of achievement holders). Well done and excellent points by Kyla Lee of Acumen Law.

[@rchydrozz751]

You mean the ones that show up.

[@armyfazer1410]

If I take it to court, I'll be represented. As the old phrase says, "A man who is his own lawyer, has a fool for a client."

[@dionne8837]

the only problem is cops are allowed to lie and normally have no consequences for lying in court

[@Synergy7Studios]

As a police officer, does the "just following orders" excuse make it easy to sleep at night when you assault good people in the name of unjust laws passed by corrupt beaurocrats? Or is it "just a job" that "they'd just get someone else to do"? Hope the pension is worth it.

[@gabiowned]

First of all I love your chanel. The content is just awesome. Now, I never commented on a video before but I really need to put my 2 cents on this one. I am a police officer in the neighbouring province of Alberta and from experience, traffic court is pretty much the same everywhere in Canada. There is a lot in this video that makes me cringe. A lot. And all coming from the Lawyer (she might still be a student). In 2020 I handed out 216 ticket violation. Only 1 motorcyclist and it wasn't for speeding, it was for unpaid registration. From my experience, Motorcyclist pays a lot more attention to the road, what's in front of them and what's coming up to them vs a regular automobilist. Therefore, they will spot us (the police) at about the same time that we can see them and immediately slow down, cutting the opportunity to lock on to get a good reading or estimation. Same thing with ricers hehe. So no, motorcyclist do not get more speeding tickets. The first thing that the lawyer said about the noise and the perception of smaller object is just plain dumb. Usually, to detect speeders I use instrument that are calibrated (laser or radar) that are in no way shape or form affected by perception... If I do not have any of my instruments here how I estimate speeds: - All of our police vehicles are outfitted with ICDVs (In Car Digital Camera). This camera is connected in real time to police car computer and shows gps location and speed that I can compare to my speedometer. This camera will also capture time of day and the other traffic around you and I. - I will follow you for however distance with the ICDV on and match your speed. Once I have stopped gaining on you and that you have stopped gaining on me I will have a very accurate estimation of your speed. I will follow and maintain for however time necessary to gather best evidence. Also comparing gps speed to speedometer speed along the way. Check your mirrors. I get tesla for speeding and they don't make any freaking noise. That's just a dumb argument. Now for what will be written on the ticket. Usually, when I am enforcing speeds I will be using a stamp for my ticket notes. This stamp is Cop Stupid proof. Its a fill in the blanks. On there there will be the serial number of the instrument, the time of day it was tested, how it tested that day, the traveling lane, traveling direction, traffic condition, if either you were gaining, leading, passing or alone, the time of day, road conditions, weather, temperature, speed estimation, distance, actual speed recorded and distance from the last maximum speed indicator and either if it was clearly visible or not and how many occupants in the vehicle and where they were sitting. She (the lawyer) is mentioning things about making your own notes. I think its a good idea. But the marking of "for my lawyer" on top is completely irrelevant. I won't try to access them because I really don't care about them. I have my own and those are the only one that I will use to demonstrate the commission of the offence. I don't need your notes to help me. Those are yours, to help you. If I needed your own notes to help me I would be in big trouble. Now for the pulling over part. Don't wait for "a safe spot" to pull over. Once I activate my emergency light it is because I determined the zone to be safe. Please pull over immediately. The longer it takes, the more suspicious I become even if you are trying to help. I can block a whole lane if I need to. And please for the love the Almighty, do not pass 2 intersections and then choose a spot in a Walmart parking lot. Recording is a good idea. Keep in mind that for instance at my service we are all outfitted with body worn camera (BWC). Also the nicer you are the nicer I will want to be with you. Its called reciprocity and we are equally subjected to it, good or bad (me included). Now for the officer/driver interaction part. At the time of the traffic stop for speeding, all my driving evidence has been gathered and the commission of the offence has been terminated. My investigation for the speeding is terminated. The fact that you admit it or not is irrelevant. Now, what i need to do is to confirm your identity, valid insurance, valid registration confirm that you have the ability to operate the vehicle. That's it. When I get to your window I will not ask you "do you know why I am stopping you?". No. Lets be honest, you know why. What I will do is immediately state the reason of the stop and require your DL, Reg and Insurance. Pass Mandatory Alcohol Screening (MAS) when not in covid and if everything checks out I will go back to my vehicle and issue the citation. I am really not interested about the excuses (unless its funny) or arguments on the side of the road. The less we talk the better for both us. For your identity is just a piece of gov id with photo that match your face, thats good enough, I don't know why the lawyer was concern about you giving too much information for identity, it never came as an issue. For my service, there is no difference between a $25 dollar jaywalking ticket or a $400 speeding ticket. A ticket is a ticket. So if you are going 30 over, I can give you 15 over, don't be a dick. In the case that you fight it and lose, the maximum the judge can give you is 15 over and not 30 over. Thats still a win right there. Now. When you make the decision to fight it, which you should always do, this is what is going to happen. First, a Justice of the Peace(JP), which is the prosecution for traffic court, is going to review the ticket. If there is an error anywhere on the face of the ticket it is automatically getting tossed. Could be a simple spelling error on the charge or date or your name. Fatal error. Second, for reason that entirely belongs to the discretion of the JP. He can decide if he wants to prosecute or withdrawn. Not you nor me nor the judge can argue with it, its their privilege. I would estimate that close to 20% of my tickets is getting withdrawn if contested with no reason provided other than just because. So that's good for you. Now lets say there is another 20% chance I don't show up. You are now at 40% chance that you are not getting anything just by contesting it. Those are good odds from the get go. Now, lets say that its not withdrawn from the get go and that I show up, now what. Unlike what the lawyer said, we (officers) don't decide on the "behind closed doors deals". Its the JP that require us to inquire with you to see what you want you want do to do. The JP will almost always give us a "deal" for you. It will either be less money, less points or lesser fine. Again, the JP could also have decided that you know what, lets just withdraw it just cause. Or he could have asked me how the intervention went and if I say "good no concern" and its super busy he could also make the decision to withdraw it. So again good for you, you didn't have to say a word yet and you were decent to deal with in the first place. Now let's say we have a conversation behind closed doors for the "deal of the century". I couldn't care less about what you have to say about the ticket, this conversation is about you pleading guilty to a lesser fine or trial. The reason the JP makes us have the conversation with you instead of doing it himself is because he has got 14 cases at the same time. He is too busy. We are government employees. We get paid the same no matter how or not we work. There no advantage for us to drag it on just to prove a point. If you need more time to pay it can also be arranged at that time. And all that without lawyer fees. Now if you decided to go through trial, contrary to what she has mentioned, we do do the cross examination on you, the JP does and they do it all the time and they are good at it. On the other hand, I will get on the witness stand and attest of my evidences. You will have the opportunity to cross examine me and my evidence. I would not recommend you doing this on your own. Most of the arguments that was brought up in the video could have easily been answered by me looking at the judge with No and Ok. And that would be the end of that. Here is my opinion on how to beat a speeding ticket "Most" of the time and without any lawyers fees. All and all keep your eyes peeled for us, know the speed traps, be nice (I know it sucks, i get speed cam ticket to every new place I go) and take the deal. Its not worth to get a expensive lawyer with no guarantee of different outcome, just guarantee lawyer fees. Except for serious traffic offences, then get one. If not hey are sharks just like us looking to take money from your pockets and put it in theirs, its a business. I know I am late, just subbed to the chanel. Hopefully people can still read this comment and pass the word around. Thanks for reading and again I love your videos. Be safe.

[@gabiowned]

Also, the judge will never ask you what the fine should be. That's not happening. If found guilty you will get the full charge proposed by the crown. This is where the power of the "deal" that was made prior or not comes into play. The judge will only ask you if you are willing to pay now or later. The judge will not charge you more if its a "set fine" no matter your priors.

[@grqfes]

i read like half of it because its pretty late and im tired but thank you for taking the time to comment on the video with your perspective. wish it got more attention here. if anyone's actually serious about this ticket stuff they should really read what you have to say.

[@AndyGutting]

This all makes sense to me except for the 'safe spot' advice. I will wait for the Walmart parking lot, both for the officer's safety and my own. Blocking a whole lane with your vehicle is surely more dangerous.

[@adamantIcarus]

License plate: 8008-IE5 😂

[@tobijalampe9102]

BOOBIES HAHAHAHA

[@Niko-bf7nw]

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[@diegomendoza9495]

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[@namename-tr8il]

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[@Phyde4ux]

@Khaffit I still don't get it... :-(

[@alextoulan3635]

Both my parents are attorneys and I watched them get pulled over a number of times while growing up. The advice they're giving here is certainly good, especially if you're facing reckless endangerment for the speed your going. I don't ride a super-moto, I ride a DRZ400s. The kinds of tickets I'm facing are for things like, going 55mph in and 35. Everything is circumstantial and I'm not going to tell you what to do, but I'll tell you what I've found. If I get pulled over for speeding because I was trying to pass someone because it seemed they weren't paying attention, I'll be honest with the officer. That combined with finding a safe spot to pull over, they're going to understand that you're just out trying to have a little safe fun and you'd probably rather go a little faster to avoid someone on their phone than slow down. I can't even count how many warnings I've gotten over the years instead of actual tickets. Maybe the police are more understanding where I live, can't really be sure. There are a lot of variables and this video is certainly a good baseline. My point is, use your best judgment for the situation and above all, give them no reason to be nervous.

[@Misterzen87]

any chance they know who your parents are?

[@alextoulan3635]

@@Misterzen87 I didn't start riding until I'd lived in another state for years, so there's no chance they know my parents.

[@guins99]

If you are doing 55 in a 35 I hope you get pulled over and ticketed. Who the hell are you to create dangers for others simply because you prefer to ignore posted speed limits.

[@johnroberts3824]

How did you manage to observe your parents while they were growing up?

[@devonesq.7533]

a lot of stuff can sway a cop's opinion, definitely dependant on age and demeanor, also WHERE YOU LIVE IS VERY IMPORTANT. i live in a small town, everyone knows everyone, the cops know my parents, and the cops have known me since i was in middle school, so when i get pulled over, it's just them telling me to contain myself and be careful, and then we both drive off. for context i live in a town of 2,000 people. i feel like the bigger of a town you live in, the less likely you are to find a cop who will be understanding of your situation.

[@kossunrakastaja]

I've never had a speeding ticket in my entire life. The simple fact is, that I do not speed (on purpose). I rather go slower and enjoy myself than always be on the "lookout" for speed traps. With all that being said, I found myself going a bit faster than I wanted to, on a number of occasions, while riding my motorcycle. It's easier to surpass the speed limit on a bike, especially at lower speeds. Going 50 km/h on a 800CC bike, one needs to pay attention. Just a squeeze of that throttle and you're doing more in a heartbeat. One of the best ways to stay within the limit is cruise control. It's a great way to "set and forget" while doing long rides. Thanks for the video Ryan!

[@robertlindstrom540]

That was entertaining. As I live in Sweden and not in Canada those lawpoints did not help me but I was vastly entertained the whole time. As is usual with these F9 videos, they really are hilarious while still getting the points across. Please don´t change, ever...

[@Nyli.]

The lawyer looks like Emilia Clarke and as a result I felt obligated to watch her eyebrows... Not disappointed!! 10/10, would speed again

[@mastergogoy6166]

was gonna say the same thing.

[@NibNa5ty]

Eye brows on fleek son

[@mawisback]

@@NibNa5ty lol and the guy looks like joffrey

[@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_]

She was born a man

[@hmz01_]

ikrrrrr

[@shaunbarclay1309]

This seeems.....oddly specific. Has Ryan been a bad boi?

[@jonathantyree8172]

Right to remain silent.... Never admit guilt

[@ABCD-uj6gd]

Who would win? An experienced police officer or one braaapy boi

[@illhaveanother4365]

*boy

[@illhaveanother4365]

@@ABCD-uj6gd *boy

[@louiearmstrong]

Anyone on a motorcycle has been a bad boi. Try passing a truck (dont want to get killed by tire explosions) without speeding

[@michaeldion8798]

By far the best and informative video anyone has done in a long long time!

[@c4USSR72]

It is actually fun to watch you videos and understand the places and roads you take. Great Quality and good lawyer to know about

[@meher2096]

cinematography in your videos is "breathtaking" whomever is editing these can work in movies

[@findaneesh8885]

Aiming for Top Gun 3 where Tom Cruise realizes he doesn't need jets to fly.

[@cavemanproductionsXD]

When i enter a school zone goin 120 Are ya ready kids ?

[@Janglless]

AY AY CAPT-.........

[@svartrbrisingr6141]

Was that a newly installed speed bump?

[@jameschartrand7962]

200km/h, in my defense it was a weekend so no school but it was still quadruple the speed limit. Lucky I didn't get caught

[@AliEssa-oq7if]

@@svartrbrisingr6141 *NO JUST A SKATEBOARD*

[@user-rr1bg3ib5w]

Aye aye captain.

[@rustyrooster4879]

Excellent video. I consider this television quality viewing. I actually used some of these recommendations and was successful. I enjoy all your videos but this one definitely stands out. I like the humourous takes on things,makes it thoroughly entertaining as well as informative. Your team does a great job and Ryan is an awesome host/commentator.

[@deepindapoo]

Really great videos, I'm a big fan because of the lack of BS and love the presentation.

[@AntiParallali]

Got pulled over for speeding around a burning truck on a ninja 250....😂😂😂. Ultimately they understood and let me go but I still thought it was hilarious they went after me and not the truck that was on fire on the highway

[@bhaddock9277]

I have a Ninja 250r, truck would have to be burning for you to overtake it (LOL) unless you bug stamped down 3 gears and nailed the throttle to red line.

[@SmilingDevil]

Were you running a stock exhaust , and was the truck burning BEFORE you passed it...?

[@EmoKen]

😂😂😂

[@JB-jt9kd]

That shows their true intentions. They are not there to serve and protect

[@KentRodgman]

It was LEMMY!! Once again, F9 out there doing the real work.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

@ZLA Lemmy LOL, and here I was thinking you'd lost all that weight.

[@ScrubBeiber101]

I had no idea he did vids in Canada let alone my beautiful province. Outstanding video, clean, informative. And down right good old entertainment. Keep up the good job

[@gohjohan]

He's Canadian. No where else can you get such good scenary.

[@maryaldrich5982]

What wonderful video. Informative and concise. Thank you for sharing and for taking the time to share.

[@colossebdumont879]

easily the best motorcycle content producing channel ever: Fortnine

[@rafi7252]

But... What if my attorney is causing me to having a crush on her?

[@2gunz122]

If you have a crush on your lawyer, i guess you feature her on your youtube channel 😁

[@slavsoul332]

@@illhaveanother4365 okay boomer

[@Lengsel7]

@@slavsoul332 ...Says the toilet licker.

[@slavsoul332]

@@Lengsel7 okay boomer

[@Lengsel7]

@@slavsoul332 Tide Pod eater.

[@fumblerooskie]

There is some REALLY good advice in this video, such as taking notes and writing "to my lawyer" at the top.

[@Villemano]

The quality on these videos is worth paying for!

[@andrewbrawley8577]

"to my lawyer" brilliant must use that all the time!

[@fumblerooskie]

This has some of the best advice I have ever seen anywhere, such as writing "to my lawyer" to start your "contemporaneous" notes.

[@flick22601]

I always talk to the officers. When they ask me if I know how fast I was going, I'll answer by saying something along the lines of 'evidently fast enough to draw your attention' or something similar. I try to answer with a positive attitude and engage the officer in a conversation. If (s)he's having a bad day, I try to make it better for them. A good joke can help too. I've found that this approach works better than any other and, if I do get a ticket, the officer will typically reduce the charge right there from what (s)he told me my violation was. Just remember that cops are people too.

[@boldCactuslad]

that's good advice. others may think down on us for this but it's just basic human psychology. cops are used to dealing with the worst in us, so a genuinely nice interaction with a normal citizen could prompt some respect back from them. so long as they don't notice the bodies, of course

[@thelistener1268]

It really does come down to the good old stand by. Don't be a dick. You know the drill. License, registration, and proof of insurance. Stop somewhere where they won't be in danger talking to your dumbass. Just because you have the right to not speak doesn't mean it's the best strategy.

[@butters742]

You know i just wanted to get into motorcycling. Now im getting into motorcycling and found a top notch KZbin channel all in one!

[@ginogina4589]

Retired popo here. Great vid. Excellent advice from the attorney. Always go to court if cited. If you can afford it, get an attorney. Even if 100% guilty you may reasonably ask the Court for a break if you can think of a reason why, especially if you’re driving record is good. Carry all required paperwork and your DL. Cooperate with the Officer. And lastly...drive safely and most of the above is irrelevant.

[@jacobpie3692]

Enjoying retirement off my taxes? And thank you for all the murders you for paid for “on duty “ Oink Oink 🐷

[@corncobjohnsonreal]

Frick you sincerely and I'm sorry you made it to retirement but I hope it's a brief one

[@ggh79thegamer]

The second it said "silence", my headphones unplugged, about 5 minutes later I realized what happened. :I

[@tysteven6279]

Brilliant video. Brilliant lawyer. Thanks to both for the content.

[@immediateur]

Two amazing people coming together! great channel! editing is amazing!!!

[@brettmcmahan1353]

Bravo FortNine crew. The quality of your videos & the efforts put in are greatly appreciated. Can't believe you guys haven't been snapped up by TV. Can't express it enough I really dig what you do & have done in the past. Keep up the good work 😆

[@saurabhkambliSaukaONE]

Gonna use “To my lawyer” on everything freaking thing from now on! Lol

[@just-dl]

Saurabh Kambli I’m going to get stationary with that on it. Save time.

[@saurabhkambliSaukaONE]

D L ahaha lol

[@keithhammons2605]

Irony is if you do that they’ll end up allowing all your docs as admissible.

[@timfagan816]

@@saurabhkambliSaukaONE clearly that was a massive lie, you replied "lol" But you didnt put to my lawyer lol. When relying to the other person.

[@g496r500t]

Abusing legal privilege will lead to it being torn away in court.

[@snazzfab]

This is one of your finest videos! thorough as F!

[@mitchelltolbert]

HONESTLY ONE OF THE BEST VIDEOS have ever seen on KZbin. Helpful, great topic, efficient delivery, superb video quality and editing. I’m really impressed. Can you do one for the US folks? Lol, great video. Makes me a subscriber for life.

[@LilStarBeech]

let's be honest... 9/10 times someone is booked for speeding is because they were speeding.

[@colineire9162]

yeah but who doesnt speed? we all do it, only some get caught, its not fair

[@10goni]

@@colineire9162 that's the most stupid thin i heard in my life

[@colineire9162]

CAPSLOCK explain

[@10goni]

@@colineire9162 yeah we all speed, it's still illegal though. if you're gonna speed you better know where it's 'safe' to do so. if you you do the crime you can do the time. just because some don't get caught it's not unfair that you get caught.

[@colineire9162]

CAPSLOCK would it not be fairer if everyone who speeds was always caught and punished?

[@slayerplaysgenshin9842]

Jokes on you I ride a Mobility Scooter.

[@scribe3387]

Dprsd Afk *still manages to get ticket for basic speed and broken tail light*

[@ostmen_draugr]

Ive seen people get pulled over on a riding mower, heck i got pulled for riding my bicycle on the sidewalk of a major highway (cop said i shouldve been on the road where cars are going 60mph, no ill take the ticket thank u)

[@MitchellRoman97]

What an amazing video. Great job all around!

[@martinkillips180]

Excellent advice. Very impressed.

[@norsefalconer]

In nearly 40yrs of driving/riding, I've only been pulled 3x. Two for speeding. One warning, one ticket. Ticket was in 1991, 70 in a 55. Long story, but skip to the end: Officer handed me the $130 ticket and said, "Kind of expensive, huh?" I smiled and said, "Well if you divide that by the number of times I didn't get caught, it's not too bad." He chuckled, and walked away saying "Slow it down before you get hurt, or hurt someone else." I mailed it in with a check.

[@FDCBALT]

The quality of these videos keep getting better and better. Congrats!

[@davidhill90034]

another insightful and clever video. Thanks again!

[@ibrahimchowdhury2749]

The best channel for motorcycle enthusiastic people. F9R never disappoints, never!!!

[@LookattheBiggerPic]

This has to be one of the best and most useful vlog in the channel, ever! Thanks so much for all you do!

[@eugeneoz]

loving your videos, they just get better all the time. The content, theatrics, humour and production quality all outstanding

[@blubyu1100]

Simply brilliant. Thank you dp

[@tsbrownie]

In the US, reaching in a pocket for your phone could invite unwanted gun-play.

[@jyeedwards8049]

This is top notch content right here, Great job!

[@djamesthree]

This might be the best video in the history of KZbin, thanks Ryan and to your guest for some excellent and common sense advice.

[@mikedanaher3413]

I miss trucking up in British Columbia. What a beautiful place. Only ticket I ever got was a fix it ticket for a light. Fixed it right there and the officer entered it into the system as fixed. Very nice and very professional police officer.

[@geofferydeanjackson9244]

Good advise. Thanks for the video.

[@albea1695]

Can't help but admire the coloration of the wide angles. Scene set, camera ground up, sun blocked by presenter, and still having a well contrasted image... you've got yourself a fine set-up. Bureaucracy can be beautiful!

[@khakimzhanmiras]

In my country traffic cameras don't see motorcycle plates and motorcyclists ignore cops. 👌

[@rigrijalvac]

Miras Khakimzhan your country is $hit then

[@khakimzhanmiras]

@@rigrijalvac oh no doubt, but for other reasons entirely.

[@PoorCoyotee]

@@rigrijalvac Same her in Finland with the cameras, but trying to escape a motorcycle police, NOPE. Unless you are truly an unusually great rider and have a bike capable to handle different terrains.

[@khakimzhanmiras]

@@PoorCoyotee escaping a cop car on a motorcycle is like an f-16 escaping a Cessna.

[@axelbostrom3606]

@@PoorCoyotee cops can chase riders in Finland? Wow...

[@johnnykwest7819]

Ryan is outstanding in his field! Literally he is out standing in a field!

[@tswc42]

I've long loved the Fortnine channel, and now I'm in love with their lawyer. Damn you guys.

[@shadowsnlights]

Mr. FortNine. Your production value is very high. Keep up the great work.

[@Vooced]

Fantastic production value man! Super pleasing to watch!

[@wilsonpinto88]

Damn.. all these scenarios deserve a short film 📽️

[@bobbymw9722]

Thank you; amazingly informative.

[@ArizonaAdv]

Well thanks for sharing that. Even though I live in Oregon . I think a lot of things still pertain."RIDE ON"

[@kiwiabroad8390]

Helpful guide thanks Ryan, and applicable to every rider where the legal system is based on British common law (like here in Oz).

[@Haydon.k5]

The word choice and production of these videos is sooooo good.

[@Sebastian-oo7xi]

Wow! learned more in this video for bikers, than in some other legal advices in general

[@NomadxElliot]

I once wanted to challenge in court an "improper passing" ticket but I was afraid because the ticket said "if you are found guilty at the end of the trial you'll have to pay $500" and the ticket was like $125 with 3 points on my license. But I wanted to tell the court that the only reason why I passed a car at a double yellow was because I was basically tailgating someone a while after midnight, 35mph zone and the guy was doing 25mph, he was smoking and swerving within his lane and I saw his phone on and him tapping on it and I just didn't feel safe driving behind him. The safer thing to do was reduce my speed and stay away but then I would be driving way under the speed limit and that could be dangerous and I didn't want to annoy anyone on the road so I made sure there was no cars incoming for about a 100ft making sure there was no incoming cars in a quarter of a mile away and I passed the guy, but because I was tailgating him and looking passed him I couldn't see the cop and that's how it happened.

[@spicytea735]

You don't have to go *way* below the speed limit, just go 20 mph for about 20 seconds then match his speed. If anyone is annoyed behind you pull off to the far side of your lane and let them illegally pass. Had you not illegally passed, there's a good chance the cop would've pulled that guy over instead.

[@NomadxElliot]

@@spicytea735 I didn't even know the cop was there, I thought I'd just get away with it.

[@sn0wchyld]

@@spicytea735 and so on a bike, at night, going below the speed limit, with another set of red lights only 50m ahead of you - a perfect way to get run up your ass.

[@aimenalwan]

Thanks for sharing another great video RF9. I think you and the team should consider doing a little ‘tester’ film / documentary.

[@MrPilotguy20]

This video was FIRE! Great stuff both of you. :)

[@user-ct8yt4xy3w]

Great work, nice video and editing once again, really great content, excellent in even pulling a professional for her input, always love your cut scenes and commentary, smart and fuynny

[@emmanuellehuu8818]

Always as good as it can be... Best channel on KZbin by far

[@ThisTall]

1 thing that should be mentioned in BC is that the cop has the ability to just guess your speed, and no matter what that speed is (if there isn’t some other technicality to get off from) the judge can only adjust the speed you’re fined for by 10kph +/- whatever the cop says it was. They don’t need a radar, or any evidence whatsoever. And how can a lawyer for even 1 or 2 hours possibly cost less then 99% of tickets?

[@IstasPumaNevada]

How about the increase in insurance premiums for however long the government-mandated car insurance monopoly in British Columbia decides it wants to? On top of their already ludicrous premiums, that is.

[@PulsarProactivo]

dude, you went waaaay over the bar, froma what i was specting . Even tho this does not work for since i live in Méxic, what a bunch of knowledge i got today.

[@awesomeandre1757]

Somewhere in the distant future you're going to have a tough time competing against yourself and providing amazing content. Well done... Bravo

[@canererdogan1]

I love the style of this new video, and I like Kyla more :) Sweet

[@canererdogan1]

@Flip Flop oh okay sorry😊👍

[@michaelklinge1857]

she's a good lawyer I hope you at least bought her dinner

[@necromax13]

@@motogordo5525 Oh that's eye opening. She's still cute tho.

[@aidanthomas]

@@motogordo5525 Oh good find! That makes such interesting reading. The Justice's judgement is spot on.

[@alwaysbepatient]

@@motogordo5525 how amazing of a world we live in where as she invites the positive reviews and sues the negative reviews knowing fully that she is well equipped to cause more damage to a person who just lost a case with her as his/her lawyer. Seeing how trigger happily she filed a lawsuit because a negative review on Google plus, i believe she earned that negative review.

[@F1fan4eva]

Moto Gordo from the analysis in that document "[36] In my view this action should never have been brought." I don't know if she's a good lawyer or not, but she's a fucking bitch for going after a disgruntled online reviewer. If anything the judge should've charged the court costs to them for their predatory and intimidating tactics.

[@F1fan4eva]

michael klinge from the analysis in that document "[36] In my view this action should never have been brought." I don't know if she's a good lawyer or not, but she's a fucking bitch for going after a disgruntled online reviewer. If anything the judge should've charged the court costs to them for their predatory and intimidating tactics.

[@Florinutzzzzz]

5:52 battlefield 1 "element of surprise is more deadly than the gun"

[@VinOnline]

This is literally the most useful KZbin video I've ever seen.

[@garryr]

The lovely lawyer is right about sounding louder. Got pulled over a few years ago in a car, Officer told me I was stopped because it sounded like I was speeding. I laughed and said good luck with that one in court. He gave me a warning.......

[@broncosgjn]

he knows that but he needs grounds to stop you and that will do.

[@colincook2360]

@@broncosgjn he can stop any motorist. you are required to carry a licence and insurance. that gives him grounds to stop. Sometimes its just to let you know that he is around. Its an internet myth that cops need proof of a law being broken since they have authority to check compliance for a wide array of document and equipment checks as well as sobriety. Don't watch those sovereign citizen vids

[@broncosgjn]

@@colincook2360 I was a police officer for 23 years. You need a reason to stop a car. That can be as you say a licence check or a registration and insurance check or a road worthy check. That is my point. You require a reason. The real reason might be that the occupants look like dirt bags and you want to check them out but you don't say that. If you find something and it goes to court you will have to tell the court you reason for stopping the car.

[@craigosenior2004]

Kyla is very articulate and a pleasure to listen to. :)

[@vinyldown8490]

I loved her work!

[@danielwardley4185]

great video, what you said at the end reminds me of my dad, he was traffic police in the 70's , times have changed but humans havn't. One bit of advice he gave was when at the roadside, was to maintain that you knew what you were doing, be a decent person, it has got me off with just warnings. He was always amazed how people always complain about being caught when breaking the law. Either way, man up, girl up, learn from it. Thanks.

[@ronaldquint]

Great video! I loved the editing, and the B-roll.

[@loki1066]

Clever, funny guy. Give him a TV show .

[@adamschroeder2545]

GREAT CONTENT, MAN!!! Keep em coimin. Love the Revzilla reference and the Lemmy burn!!! SICK frickin burn, dude. So funny.

[@Silidons91]

I'm a Deputy who works in Small Claims + Traffic Court in Southern California. If the Officer testifies that they either: used his radar/lidar on your vehicle, or paced your vehicle, and supports his testimony with the required things they need to say (training/experience, what they did for calibration, identified you by your license, etc etc etc), you're pretty much fucked. No one ever wins. We hear the same exact things all the time. What the internet says doesn't work, at least with my commissioner. Example, for people in cars, cellphone violation. People will say that it fell out of the holder at the time when the officer saw them. Doesn't work. Or they got caught in the carpool lane, their excuse is they had to swerve into the carpool lane in order to avoid an accident. Doesn't work. Plead not guilty, and hope the officer doesn't show up. That's pretty much your best bet. What a lot of these attorneys do is count their success rate on the cases where officer's don't show up. Anyone can do that, you just show up and they're not there, you win. One tip is (This is for California only, I don't know other states), is you're guilty, and you're sitting there on your trial date and the officer is there, ask the Deputy if you could speak to the officer who wrote you the citation. Ask the officer if they can amend the violation to a CVC 38300. You still have to pay the fine, but it takes away the point from your record and you don't have to go to traffic school, hence saving you money and time that you would have to spend on traffic school. That is only for violations that give a point on your record.

[@MrVulcan1963]

You are spot on, the whole traffic court system is designed to ensure the finding of guilty to the violator. In effect, you are guilty the moment the officer puts the ticket in your hand, because the officer swears under penalty of perjury on the ticket that he felt you committed the violation. When you consider the rules of evidence, the credibility given to the officer over the defendant when he testifies, the fact that in the eyes of most jurists the officer's evidence is considered incontrovertible, the system all but guarantees victory for the officer. In the traffic court system, due process is illusory, for the vast majority of defendants, you're going through the motions to be found guilty.

[@Silidons91]

@@MrVulcan1963 Yes, I can tell you I have never seen an officer testify correctly, and have the defendant win a case. If the officer fucks up (doesn't provide a speed survey for a required area, doesn't say how they calibrated their lidar, doesn't say they were wearing their department uniform driving a marked patrol vehicle), that's the only time I've ever seen someone actually win. It happens from time to time. Few weeks ago a dude got off for >100mph on the freeway. Officer said he got his speed from the lidar, didn't mention it was calibrated. Not guilty. Has absolutely nothing to do with how well the defendant fought their case, he didn't have to say anything. lol

[@MrVulcan1963]

@@Silidons91 That guy was extremely fortunate as I suspect the fine for +100mph in California is very expensive these days. When I lived there from 1988-2002 the fine was about $1300. Going 17 over the limit cost me $445 with the traffic school option back in 2016-I'm so glad I left the state.

[@Silidons91]

@@MrVulcan1963 It looks like the average is around $1500. It depends on their record. And a lot of times they have other charges too, suspended license, expired tags, tinted windows, etc. He was pretty happy when he left lol.

[@drw1926]

MrVulcan1963 where do they use jury trials in traffic court?

[@RichDunn]

Love the Lemmy and Revzilla references - very funny! :-D

[@paulstan9828]

Good to know information. Plus the mustache looked good on you. 😁

[@MaximC]

Thank you so so much. So much useful information on your channel.

[@hatzville]

High quality production!