Fake Motorcycle Gear and How to Spot It

We take a deep dive into the seedy underbelly of moto gear with knock-offs, fakes and grey market with more shades than Dakota Johnson herself can handle. Of course, in true wholesome FortNine fashion, we test the gear to destruction. Oh boy, this might get expensive…
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[@mrpalaces]

Those grey market stories were really fascinating

[@pffyespff]

Well, there was no mention about some sources of gray market goods. Real goods with real quality can move also from one market area to another. Or wholesellers, distributors etc. having excess inventory or reducing stock, bankruptcies of shops or middle-men (auctions) etc. Exhibition/sales samples. Goods coming from all these sources are legitimate high quality goods, just cheaper than usual.

[@Stephen-wc8fn]

pffyespff yep, I was disappointed that he didn’t mention that point because it’s the most common source of grey market products. He might be showing his retailer bias - they hate it when consumers buy products outside the local distribution channel so he’s hoping to scare consumers away from using anything except the official local seller.

[@sentienthamster]

Grey market items are usually the exact same product sold for way less markup in countries that are not as well off as most of us. My company bought some oddly cheap Cisco network gear once that we found out was unable to be used in the US. We had to pay a "re-certifying" fee before they would let us pay for support.

[@ecidemon5672]

@@sentienthamster Oh, and that luxury "back-door" fee.

[@Dante_S550_Turbo]

@@pffyespff I need to find these XD Wanting all this great protection you see on adventure rider videos, but then the price tag is damn near the price of the bike they ride.

[@allisonburgers2289]

The production value is too damn high

[@oneidea1121]

it is fucking beutiful

[@deathbyyamaha3834]

the very first thing i thought myself!! ryan its getting out of hand! soon we shall have fort nine michael bay videos

[@allisonburgers2289]

@@deathbyyamaha3834 implying it's not already better than anything Michael Bay puts out nowadays

[@esatd34]

Every damn time

[@axelbuckets3858]

It always has been

[@julianpbt7942]

I love the attention to the quality editing and movie making

[@irvingcuevas8877]

Agreed! Thanks again @Fortnine

[@vgullotta]

Yeah 100% agree! The Halloween theme on this video was so well done!!!

[@hellomoto4240]

Blows me away. Actually scarry. Why don’t they ever credit the creative team behind the channel? Not cool in my books @fortnine

[@markdesjardines6209]

Julian Pbt wnyone know what’s up with the crappy quality of last week’s video?

[@amdviperxd98b]

Still better than the quality of that knockoff

[@GusAlii]

When i discuss this helmet for my Indonesian viewers, I was attacked by the users and the sellers and i have no choice to delete the video because they think it cause drama.. Fake helmets are dangerous And most people who bought them only use their egos..

[@kurrie3280]

Nothing wrong with a little drama unless it becomes violent.

[@dynamicjaethought7788]

Gus Ali At least you tried bro, some times the stupid...just don't want to be helped or educated.

[@zulfikararyoputro2628]

Halo bang Gus ali

[@eoreu]

Eh ada bang gus ali

[@diopratamaperdana8956]

Wah malah belum nonton, pas tau beritanya malah udah ke hapus videonya bang Gus Ali, upload lagi bang penasaran soalnya hehehe

[@gwot]

I love how they don't shameless plug their own store. They could have easily said "we only sell genuine products" and no one would complain, but they didn't.

[@vamsikrishna7755]

ikr

[@vamsikrishna7755]

probably a reverse psychology....just like how I'm replying your comment for the second time :)

[@johnkapwn]

A thing to add with that final Grey market story. Sometimes factories mess up or some textiles and materials are a bad batch, so instead of tossing them and wasting those materials they'll "Throw them out" for another factory (Typically with all the same workers just on the night shift) to go dumpster diving and finish off the products with the bad materials and cheaper nuts and bolts and made with less time and care put into them. Or sometimes they're just straight up reject jackets that instead of destroying it finds it's way online.

[@Ranveer_sangha03]

This guy know's what he talking about And those effects are superb

[@Ranveer_sangha03]

@J G yeah sorry typo errors

[@qwertyfied4921]

"The sexy wrappings of an Italian lingerie are replaced with your granpas boxer shorts" 😂😭😂

[@ChrisUhlik]

Best line ever!

[@michaele1201]

"Scary" good content as always. Happy Halloween!!

[@fzlsalim]

'Because shit happens' Ryan, 2019

[@mrjack8849]

Ryan feels like he has the experience and knowledge of somebody who has been in the industry for 40 years. And the filmmaking and acting/speaking skills to match.

[@PapaMalps]

The best youtube channel bringing us more quality content!

[@bigblueglide8021]

I don't think I can sleep tonight. Can you leave the light on and give me my Shoei to snuggle.

[@tahrik_]

Definition of quality over quantity: fortnine

[@u563rick6]

Yılmazov it’s fantastic!

[@friendbubble8415]

Sophie the gorgeus tanklady said "quantity is a quality of its own" :D

[@RedZeshinX]

"Yet on the dark corners of Alibaba, we see the ghosts of these overruns popping up for sale" that gave me a good chuckle. 😄

[@JL-kg2zl]

Ryan could have a full hour prime time tv show, he's the best gear reviewer hands down and every video he's ever done is super informative AND entertaining.

[@lpka]

Come on F9... do more, we need more..... I had to re-watch all of the clips from 3 years ago, to get trough the day. please make MORE!

[@abdulkaderajlani613]

I have never in my life even touched a motorcycle, and probably never will, and yet I really enjoy the content on this channel and watch every video haha

[@syankha8329]

When ya get older, try riding one man! Its fun. But youll need to get used to it quite a bit.

[@tamboleo]

Ok so how can i access to this grey market? It's for a friend.

[@gormalfun99]

Lol

[@shawnjawanda3663]

Alibaba my friend

[@tamboleo]

@@shawnjawanda3663 but is there any kind of label that says... "yee it's the real deal but you know... from that lost airplane on the Pacific" kind of thing? No?

[@shawnjawanda3663]

tamboleo not really dude. As Ryan said you can’t tell which is which without buying it first. That’s how they trick you. You’re better off spending more on a legit piece of gear so you know for sure it’s proper

[@tamboleo]

@@shawnjawanda3663 Allright, thank you man. When it comes to protection it's better to not save money but save your skin :P

[@MrJinx633]

I have no doubt in my mind that FortNine is one of the best content creators on KZbin. Superb story, cinematography & editing. Simply brilliant!!

[@Lavatronn]

Thanks for shedding light on this topic! Youre absolutely right about what happens at the factories overseas..I work in the garment industry and this stuff happens all the time.

[@Danof]

I wanted to watch this video but it was to scary for me Seeing Ryan without a head? My worst nightmare

[@frostedglcok]

Thanks for covering these categories Ryan. Keeping in mind, this analysis and product categories exist for all other products and not just motorcycle equipment. There are similar cases but not as dangerous. Clothing stores that sell overrun or irregulars in the attempts to recover some cost of manufacturing where there was a mishap in final production phase. I.e., TJ Maxx, Marshalls, Ross, etc.

[@Stoney3K]

I'd say buying brand name overstock for plain clothing is fine, because a production defect there would only lead to a $20 genuine Ralph Lauren polo looking slightly off. But when safety is concerned... there's no compromise. Just like you won't skimp on brake pads or seat belts, your moto gear is there to save your life if you hit something solid at high speed.

[@paulaus]

@@Stoney3K Stony unfortunately this extends to parts as well. Look up fake NGK spark plugs.

[@Stoney3K]

@@paulaus Fakes are different from overstocks.

[@user-wr4uz8pg7m]

First off, thanks for another excellent video. Loving the material produced by Fortnine. Secondly, huge thumbs up for including scenes from the short horror movie "Bobby", originally a part of the "Dead of Night" video that scared my 12-year old self thoroughly. Truly as terrifying as knock offs, fakes and grey market m/c gear!

[@ginkyo]

the Stranger Things type music kicks in, I was like oh shit, then Ryan said it. Love the quality dude XD

[@kenstirling5348]

Internet sales has brought so much counterfeit gear and items to be sold. Motorcycle gear isn’t the only thing to be counterfeited.

[@keithahlstrom176]

What I find amazing is that a completely niche product from an even more niche segment, with an even more niche buyer willing to risk buying from some mysto online retailer is even worth the trouble to manufacture the damn things. Amazing.

[@matthewharck-turner275]

Amazing Video and as usual Outstanding Quality. Thanks for being so consistantly amazing.

[@danejurus69]

Ryan, your content is top notch. A+. No knockoff here. The real deal!

[@AnythingWeThinkOf]

Amazing quality as always. Hands down the best motorcycle channel on youtube.

[@alkaholic4848]

Why are you the only one popularising this info! Keep up the good work.

[@williamdawber1945]

Less of a KZbin video more of a Hollywood movie 🤣 can legit watch these videos over and over again.

[@rahulsawant8369]

Amazing cinematography, great details on the selected content, superb execution all by Ryan and his partners. Kudos to u guys

[@imagesbyraphael]

4:31 "...sexy Italian lingerie are replaced by your grandpa's boxer shorts..." ROFLMAO!!! That killed me 🤣😂🤣

[@joinus948]

This is one of your best episodes, very entertaining and educational

[@welshrider8055]

Jaw Has Left The Chat

[@digital-alchemist]

Dude. This is the most well-produced, entertaining, creative, and informative video I've watched in months. Well done, sir. I am continually impressed with the quality of your content. Also, that knockoff helmet was scary. Basically nothing more than a studio prop. Yeesh.

[@ryanv7075]

Just awesome...loved the analysis, tips, and scary movie/show references!

[@deathstroke.wilson]

Fortnine is an underrated channel. Look at that production value 👌🏻 giving big players a run for their money.

[@bikecommuter24]

Not just motorcycle gear, I bought a lens online from a legit source its suppose to be a USA lens, came in the mail I went to register it on the manufacturers website like I do with all my camera stuff, it comes up as a gray market. The seller made good on it and got me the right product. I just hope the Alpinestars Goretex boots I paid almost 300 bucks for are legit. The one 👎 must have bought one of those fake Rossi helmets.

[@JavDa_Don]

The quality keeps on getting better and better. No one does it as good as you.

[@wtflip620]

I work in the apparel industry. ALL OF THESE STORIES REALLY DO HAPPEN... ALL. THE. TIME. Great video! Great editing! Great production value! Very entertaining!

[@Choirboyjr11]

Always good to see fortnine on my feed.

[@itzrewiind9399]

This is such a good video man GREAT job! Great info especially since I need new gear 🤔

[@barneyprince9257]

The entire video had me hanging off the edge of my seat until the end.

[@PDPIE1029]

My real a stars were stiff as a freaking board when I first got them.

[@postedinthecut1565]

you should be at 2 million subs by now with this production. keep it coming brother!

[@thebeardfpv162]

The people who sell fakes and the people who make fakes should be held accountable. A new rider or a naive person could die because of their greed. Excellent video.... And people don't lie idle, report these fakes o9n ebay and bootleg sites, It's usually a click on ebay, facebook and all the rest of the mind numbing social crap.

[@Peter-976]

This guy makes some awesome videos. The fact that they are about motorcycling is like the icing on a cake.

[@bumfilms9846]

Brilliant production quality and sense of humor has me coming back

[@AdamNDJ]

If only "mainstream" media brought us the level of journalism that F9 brings...

[@rally2727]

Don't. F9 will become mainstream and hopefully that won't be the case

[@AdamNDJ]

@@rally2727 Ooof, didn't look at it that way. I think we're safe, they're Canadian!

[@blipco5]

All you vids are great but this one may be one of your most important. 👍

[@DonkeyDongs]

Your videos are interesting throughout. The quality of detail, editing, and production value is incredible. I love watching you videos. As a newbie to motorcycling, I appreciate your advice

[@GsxrGrl21]

I actually found this super informative..never really knew the differences between everything. Love the camera work too,great job as usual!

[@Aciimov]

You should have 2 mills subscribers Did anyone notice the motorcycle?

[@BorisZaBlade]

I am investigating the market for my 1st bike, and of course all the equipment that is imperative to wear, to be safe as possible! I went to a local small shop, to see a Honda CB650R, new (I know my way with cars, and I am sick of secondhand car issues, and I guess with bikes are the same, but much more exposed if something goes wrong!) But the guy was pretty vague, I had to interrogate him, and still I wasn't sure about boots, trousers, helmet, etc. And I look funny on the 650R, because I kinda look like I wanted to get a horse, but I got a donkey, referring to size. I find your videos very helpful, and I enjoy watching you! I want to thank you for your hard work! And When I see that YammyNoob is referring to you as a achelon, and I enjoy them too, it's clear that you are at a professional level. Keep up the good work! I salute you!

[@bramtahasoni]

I'm a simple man. I see Ryan in a skeleton mask sporting a gun, I click.

[@andrewambers9460]

I love that your production and entertainment values are higher these days!

[@autumn1546]

The true spooky story is resurrecting the crash tested format. Not that I mind, of course, I loved the series.

[@ArmadilloGodzilla]

Another awesome Fort9 production!

[@roheyeon3263]

Another showstopper feature film from FortNine-ywood!!

[@greasemonkey88]

Your video production for this video was awesome man.

[@TarfuLuke]

The craftsmanship of your videos is astounding, honestly I'm in awe at the level of effort put into these videos

[@IosuamacaMhadaidh]

Ryan's voice reminds me vaguely of the guy from the original Twilight Zone

[@alinmarianbalasa9331]

Your content it’s so good, man. Keep it up, you’re great.

[@elvinmartinezjr.3669]

I still cant phantom how you aren´t over a million subs Ryan. Such quality, informative content & top production.

[@EasyRiderGreg]

You manage to make something that would normally be putting me to sleep, very entertaining. Your acting and editing skills are superb.

[@Dennis-de1ji]

Γεια σου φιλε Ryan,πολυ ωραιο βιντεο 😂😂

[@TommyNitro]

I really enjoy the great content. Well thought out and developed. However, I also enjoy simple videos, such as the videos you used to do comparing you favorite riding boots for whatever year.

[@Into_The_Mystery_13]

These videos just get better

[@Fausto_moh]

hardest working motorcycle channel on youtube. props to you and your team(:

[@scottquick8827]

Your video production is head and shoulders above all on You Tube. Very entertaining and informative. Thank you.

[@iancarry]

i will write this under every of your videos... you guys do a great job with these videos... both - creative and production - wise ... this could be regular show on premium channel ... keep it up :) gj video editor ;)

[@conceptcs]

I traveled to Vietnam and the tour guide were selling name brand goods. He told me that the workers would sneak out the fabrics of tee shirts, and sew it themselves off site, and sell them for a fraction of the cost.

[@dboterov]

This channel just keeps making one better video after the other! You are the best!!!

[@RCFiddyOne]

That DGL helmet isn't safe enough to put on a shelf much less someone's head. You might have just saved a life with this vid. Nicely done on the cinematography.

[@Jacob_Racing_Messiah_Reis]

My thoughts on the first knockoff comparison with the ROSSI R helmet: Not only is plastic more prone to shattering compared to carbon fiber but it’s also much much much more prone to flex, which is why you should never pay less than $100 for a motorcycle helmet that WILL kill you compared to paying $2k and ensuring your safety and impact protection. What’s the point of cheapin out if you don’t get the same level of safety and comfort. Since the knock off helmet has less layers in between the external body work and the cheek pads, it’s probably gonna make your face hurt. Why is this knockoff even legal to be sold at all? That the question I have. I like the theme and drama of this video, keep up the engaging content style because it’s amazing.

[@michaeldelano3645]

At first I thought... "An assault rifle? In Canada?"... then I saw the angry little pellet pop out of the barrel and realized "A knock-off rifle shooting a knock off helmet!" LOL Great vids! Keep them coming!

[@da72ma]

Freddy Krueger and Jason are nothing compared to Ryan. I got really scared. Your stuff is so good and so different than anything else on KZbin.

[@TofuProductionCinema]

That poor pumpkin. Best motorcycle gear/gadget review on KZbin next to STG.

[@Supaman1212]

An informative fright of tricks... What a treat! Happy Halloween!!! 😂👍🏾🎃🦴💀🕷️

[@ScReamOut93]

here in germany we have full blown multi million dollar tv shows that can't hold that level of quality and attention to detail.

[@1MrBryn]

This is a shockingly well crafted video. I genuinely found myself feeling uneasy. Great use of soundtrack and lighting.

[@MicJaguar]

The Budget Biker here. I have ordered a lot of name brand products and some recommended by your videos. Since im poor I get the best i can. However i have gotten some that I suspected were less than what they claim. I posted on Amazon where i have gotten most of this stuff, reviews of it and my account got suspended years ago with no explanation. I called Amazon and they won't discuss it. Also, i started getting calls from China to change my review in exchange for a "Free gift". I of course told them to piss off. However when i reported it to Amazon and asked how they got my phone number, Amazon shut me out and now i can't dispute it or place reviews. Not even mark if it was 3 or 5 stars etc. Sort of makes you wonder doesn't it? Now i only buy gear direct or from other sources.

[@Abhi-hr5km]

just loving the fucking increase in quality of the content ....JUSt GOOD

[@zdfsbnsdfn]

You could talk about apples in this style and I'd still binge watch it

[@EctoGamer]

Jesus the production is off the charts

[@oscartravis5740]

Fascinating insight, performing what William Burroughs called "wising up the marks"

[@Gherbert1348]

YES! Return of the tests!

[@cloudmaker]

Excellent quality Ryan,you always deliver education with entertainment. Regards from the UK.

[@32carus]

A glimpse of the old Crash Tested series, nice...

[@Jin-Ro]

You really need a TV show, it would, without a doubt, be Canada's Top Gear for bikers.

[@marshallcollins8634]

This is the best motorcycle channel going. Canadian or not😂

[@DmitriMironov]

I think you are a true actor, and engineer, and a cinematic skills nerd. Thank you for a great video, and ability to concrete analysis:}

[@danielpassarelli4176]

Now this is why I stopped buying on eBay…. I prefer to buy from a local dealer even if I spend a little more than I wanted to.

[@pilkjaer]

Production quality is amazing! Good video as well.

[@erizsharper]

im Loving the editings and the video bro keep it up keep it coming we appreciate what ur doing 💖💖💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

[@carloszepeda9132]

Always a huge fan of your reviews, and Man, that creativeness is oustanding, Thanks for sharing!!

[@earlthisguy652]

Excellent quality video man !!!! I expected a corny stupid vid but you did a really REALLY great job !

[@jamesjastrzebski1536]

This is excellent work. Solid research, great production, outstanding delivery. Consistently high quality videos. Informative and entertaining. Well done.