Fortune & Glory - Revisiting a Game I Should Have Ranked Higher

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[@gerth7546]

Yep, they should have swapped the fortune and glory, when we play we always struggle with it too. But for the rest fantastic game (we don't mind if we forget a rule, the tension remains until the last moment anyway). Message to FFP: release those new expansions please :-)

[@adambirch5063]

Love this game and will always be in my top 5 games.

[@4fun507]

This video made me realize my dream game is Shadows of Glory. Taking everything from SoB Hexcrawl and swapping the mine crawling with Fortune and Glory's treasure hunting card system.

[@AFRSteve]

This is one of those games that every time I get it out I ask myself why I don’t play it often. Always fun.

[@GamingWithGeo]

I've always been a fan of this game, and I'm glad I picked it up years back. I really wish they would hurry up and release the two new expansions that they announced 2-3 years ago at this point, instead of focusing on Shadows of Brimstone.

[@paulaceto6492]

Talk about timing. Just played this with 4 friends and had a blast. Not sure we ever completely understood the temple rules, but no matter. Still had fun. But I'm not sure I'll play again with 5. With rules queries and table talk, took too long. Thx for another great video.

[@johnberry5296]

I’ve never really seen a lot about this one….looks pretty cool

[@chrisw942]

I've always wanted to play this game but passed it up due to pricing--trying to buy more games over one great one. I especially love the idea of the Discover Cards and entering random imaginary moments where anything is possible! I'm a fan of lucky dice rolls, too lol! Wonderful review!

[@JBearwa]

LOVE this game! Print two of each of the the flowchart. You need this. Found at board game geek

[@Walkdogger]

I like to compare this game's Glory to Eldritch Horror's Influence. You acquire gear and allies through your connections, not just through money. So getting more Glory through the various adventures and surviving crazy things lets you use your influence and fame to get better, and then getting Fortune as your one true goal (and ultimately the Villain's goal) makes sense to me.

[@TheDungeonDive]

Makes zero sense to me, but I’m happy that you were able to make it make sense for you.

[@Quincy_Morris]

@@TheDungeonDivein this era most expeditions were funded by organizations or governments. So your ability to get those governments and organizations to fund your expedition is via glory. Of course the rules allow you to pay fortune if you want to “pay cash” so to speak. But as in real life you rarely pay cash and use credit.

[@matthewsurburg4261]

Excellent review on a game I would like to get to the table more frequently. Yes, the rules are fiddly and I never have and never will play competitively. That said, the respective roles of Fortune as victory points and Glory as the currency makes sense to me. Glory represents your growing reputation as an adventurer and the willingness of potential allies to join or contribute. Fortune is not, strictly speaking, money; rather, it captures that cinematic adventure line: "This belongs in a museum!" *THAT'S* the reason to play this game.

[@TheDungeonDive]

Seems to make sense to everyone but me. :). Oh well. I’m used to being the odd man out. ;)

[@Boardgamer69]

Such a great game....Indy in a box...It's always fun to play a game of it. My favorite game mode is competitive against Nazis. So both coop and competitive.

[@TheSpr0gz]

"Indy in a box" sums it up.

[@larryosborne5141]

I'm going to buy this right now. I love SOB, so I can't see me liking Fortune and Glory more, but I will see lol. Thanks for the video, it was the final push for me to buy. See you in the next one.

[@timkarrell7109]

Such a conflicting game. Super fiddly dice chucker, but on the other hand it there's some neat concepts and the theme is awesome.

[@williamjones4117]

One of the stories my friends and I talk about with this game occured when I went to get the Shadow of Illusion from the Sahara desert. Before the errata, the ...of Illusion had you roll afterwards to see how much glory you actually got. So, I drew a deep sea diving adventure... in the Sahara. Where I failed and had to fight a squid on my next turn. I beat the squid, got lost in some underground ice caves... in the Sahara. And finally a high speed car chase. Then, after getting the treasure, I failed all the glory rolls, and then the nazis immediately knocked me out and stole the treasure. So, the joke was that he would be in a bar, talking about how he busted his ass to get this treasure, only to have it slip through his fingers, but since he got zero glory from the adventure, not a single person believed him. Which makes sense because all of it sounds outlandish.

[@TheDungeonDive]

That’s great. This game creates those kinds of stories each time it’s played.

[@Quincy_Morris]

The Sahara has a coast. In fact all the locations have a coast except Nepal so that’s the only region where ocean adventures could seem odd.

[@crazyvolucris]

thank you and i am so happy that i got my hands on a used copy... well i should bring it to the table soon... 😆

[@hariszark7396]

Ah.....the Adventures of Idiana Jones board game....😉 The game I always wanted but never got....😕 I LOVE Fortune And Glory! I WANT THIS GAME. You can combine this game with Eldritch Horror for a Pulp Cthulhu Mythos experience. 😉😉 You can use it for RPG sessions with you group. 13:00 I agree. I have always thinking Glory should be the winning points. How about some solo playthrough videos series with this?

[@TheDungeonDive]

I’m no good at play through videos. Too many rules mistakes. Not my thing. :)

[@hariszark7396]

@@TheDungeonDive personally I don't care about the mistakes. It's the adventure I care about. 😉 And the fun. And I bet you can do fine. Consider it.

[@TheDungeonDive]

If there were more viewers like you I would. People get really mean and insulting when a person makes a rules mistake on KZbin, and it’s just not worth it. :)

[@hariszark7396]

@@TheDungeonDive I know what you mean. But honestly I do think most viewers are like me. It's just a minority of maybe 1% that doing those things and we think they are many because of the "noise" they are making and because we choose to hear them and reply. Just ignore and everything will be OK imo. 😊👍

[@the_Mike_d]

I know opinions vary on on some of their titles, but I really enjoy the art in this game. Not just the game board, but the actual game cards. Same with Last Night on Earth. I find the decision to give it a "B movie" feel makes the whole experience even better. It really is a great game experience.

[@TheDungeonDive]

So do I! Love it.

[@dilatedbeholder3865]

Same, I really don't get the hate mob for these kind of games! The B movie actor stills are what make the game for me!

[@erikpeters7072]

This game is easily one of my favorites. It's like part board game and part toy. I remember the first time I played this i forced myself to restart every time I made a mistake. I restarted at least 7 times 😂. But it's pure fun. For me this is the ultimate Indiana Jones game.

[@shawnfairbanks9339]

Thou shalt not besmirch shadows of brimstone! How dare you have an opinion in this world! I can’t wait to one day have this game on my shelf

[@MultiArashA]

very unfortunate that its been out of print for a very long time now with no news for a reprint

[@walt776]

Flying Frog is issuing a second edition of this game. Im still on the fence about whether to get it. The second edition is supposed to be more streamlined. Will wait and see.

[@perplexingruins]

this looks really cool - a nice modern world alternative to the arkham stuff - though fiddly rules like that...seems like a game you could live with for years though, and get good at it!

[@garyclarkson5246]

I love this game so much! I wish FFP would show this game more love.

[@TheDungeonDive]

Two expansions are coming, some time in the near to distant future. :)

[@acornsoak8288]

This board totally reminds me of Tales of the Arabian Nights.

[@julianbailey2749]

My main issue with F&G is that the competitive game can get a run away leader issue based on how lucky (or not) people are in the first few turns then you have a long game with very few pull back mechanics as the people behind the leader have to risk more and more to catch up. Solo it may be somewhat better.

[@TheDungeonDive]

Solo and co-op are really the only way I'll play.

[@TheSpr0gz]

Great update. Several of the things you said totally resonated with me about Fortune & Glory which is, as you say, a really great game. Specifically I to have found some of the bigger games like Shadow of Brimstone, fantastic though they are can involve a huge investment in time (and cash) to get to the table. With those games you always want more content and as a result the setup/teardown and general maintenance of the game goes up. I sold my SoB collection primarily for this reason. I loved the game but tabling it was a big event. Fortune & Glory is relatively straightforward to get to the table but still provides a ton of fun. You play, enjoy then put it away and can do all that in a couple of hours. FANG reminds me a lot of Eldritch Horror and I tend to think of it as EH's poorer cousin. It's no less enjoyable it just however doesn't quite feel as classy as EH. FANG feels so much like a globe-trotting Indiana Jones movie. The narrative it generates is fantastic. Also, the gold being the Glory and the blue counters being the Fortune catches me out too. Yes, as you say, it's a small thing but it does grate just a little. I've been hanging on the expansions FFP said were delayed primarily because of COVID 👀 Come on FFP, now's the time to give FANG some ❤

[@rickschwab3963]

Problem with SOB is after I play one scenario, and I start a another one I get bored and pack it up. Also, while playing F&G, my character was in South Africa and somehow the character ended up in an Ice cave 😄😄

[@kyleskinner7855]

Absolute gem

[@ctoss1229]

To me this looks nicer than Eldritch Horror, but is it worth owning both? I wonder which one is the most enjoyable all around.

[@jarldjevel6111]

Interesting. I understand why A Touch of Evil did not make it for me, although I love the art and style of game. I love luck and randomness but I could not connect the dots between the events, items, etc. (all cards in fact) and the gameplay. It did not make any sense to me. It would maybe need a little more of narrative cohesion for my liking. And I see that Fortune and Glory seems to rely on the same system.

[@TheDungeonDive]

Yeah. I highly doubt you would like one if you don't like the other.

[@phillipwright3183]

Yeah - we spent the entire game getting fortune and glory mixed up too. Otherwise, it's a really cool game .

[@TheDungeonDive]

Glad I’m not the only one. :)

[@sethpeterson8261]

So Fortune & Glory or a Touch of Evil if I want one of these games?

[@TheDungeonDive]

A Touch of Evil for me.

[@sethpeterson8261]

@@TheDungeonDive cool, that's the way I was leaning as I'm waiting for the new version of... Uh, that game that was your favorite, can't remember... Wait! Secret of the Lost Tomb! Waiting for the new version to fill the Indiana Jones pulp niche in my collection. Wanted it every since I watched your vid on it (your first vid I ever saw actually)

[@sethpeterson8261]

@@TheDungeonDive also these games are retail only, no KS versions right? So I can just pick up the ratail anniversary edition and be complete ?

[@TheDungeonDive]

Retail only, correct.

[@ajmunzi]

Where can I watch the top 15?

[@TheDungeonDive]

Top 50 - kzbin.info/aero/PLKewgRd8Eir9ZfEa-KrzorbN49HVQ92Yy

[@dazir_solo_board_gaming3840]

The question remains: this of TOE?;)

[@TheDungeonDive]

TOE for me, I think. I don’t know. Tough call. Both are so good. I probably should have rated both higher than SOB.

[@Boardgamer69]

With all your videos...It's like you prefer adventure games than dungeon crawler...you are more on the story(even a in a DC) than on the fights....

[@TheDungeonDive]

Combat is my least favorite thing in games.

[@anjetto1]

"Killing Nazi's is always a good thing." Truer words were never spoken

[@TheDungeonDive]

It's a little scary how this is considered a controversial subject by many people today.

[@anjetto1]

@@TheDungeonDive only if you're talking to a nazi shithead.