This video saved my butt. I forgot to study and practice this for my Private Pilot checkride. I remembered at the last minute and watched this video the night before. The final maneuver during the checkride was a forward slip to landing, and I nailed it, thanks to this video.
@jasondonavich27584 жыл бұрын
I would love to know how or who found out they could do this.
@scooter390453 жыл бұрын
Check out the story of the pilot who figured out how to get out a spin.
@Jay-fv1hc3 жыл бұрын
Probably some OG aviator from the Golden age of flying where there were no rules.
@neilsingh53112 жыл бұрын
Haha! Can you imagine that guy? “Hey rookies, check out this neat trick I’ve come up with. Don’t try this at home.”
@sylvester78002 жыл бұрын
Engineers 🧑💻
@flywithzeon2 жыл бұрын
Annnnd here I am 🙋🏻♂️
@ramprasadaviator6 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your efforts for making videos so informative yet simple to understand with great animation .. your videos are awesome and wish to see more and more on all topics of aviation. Thanks alot guys
@WasimKhan-fb7eq4 жыл бұрын
I stumbled upon this. This is how you do info videos! Great job guys.
@jeraldkonkel3 жыл бұрын
I love the forward slip, its my least used maneuver!
@muhammadsteinberg3 жыл бұрын
This post is absolutely correct in not using this to save a landing! I didn't adhere to that 30yrs(+) ago and did it quite frequently in 150/152 aircraft. AKA "dirtying the airplane" I used it successfully with and without crosswinds. No mishaps just means I was lucky. Don't do that...lol...Fly often and learn how to setup and do a go around if you don't set up properly. I had to force myself to get out of the habit of doing it.
@mh87573 жыл бұрын
Just learned this today. Amazing technique for slowing the plane in the event the flaps are stuck, or an emergency landing with limited landing distance available.
@PandiTheBear2 жыл бұрын
Or if you’re too high and have room before needing to do a go around. I do this every few flights when our airport gets busy and they change up the normal pattern. I like it.
@jackmosher75612 жыл бұрын
I've recently found myself doing this by instinct while performing approaches in heavy crosswinds just to keep the plane straight on the localizer. Nice to see that it's considered an actual accepted maneuver, and to hear some excellent tips on how to dial it in effectively.
@loganscruggs8912 Жыл бұрын
@Jack Mosher what you may be thinking of is actually considered a wing low sideslip. The major difference being that you align the nose directly with the runway centerline. The purpose of a forward slip is to get the nose as far out of the relative wind so you can create as much drag as possible. Some advice would be to avoid doing either of these when trying to maintain lateral guidance on an instrument approach - there should be no need if you account for wind correction since the plane acts as a weathervane and flys into the wind (so the crab method).
@johnschmidt8440 Жыл бұрын
Exactly right.
@StjepanNikolic3 жыл бұрын
Two things that caught my attention. The C172A POH prohibits slips when full 40deg flaps extended, but other 172's may have 30deg full flapses. In any case check your POH. Secondly, when transitioning from side slips to forward slips in a xwind, you want an opposite rudder and ailerons into the wind. The video says (at 2:50) don't take all rudder..
@JETZcorp2 жыл бұрын
Definitely worth checking the POH. The 172M I trained in said flaps 40 was safe and controllable but would lead to oscillation in the elevators. One of my instructors says it's surprisingly violent. The recommended procedure in the Mike model was 20 degrees. I found that slipping with flaps 20 was far more effective than flaps up, especially when you release the slip and the airplane gets that bit of Nitro Boost. But I suppose on a 747 final if you've got the space to slip clean and then add in the flaps and get all stabilized, that'd work fine. Frankly, with 40 degrees of flap available, the 172 Mike would sink faster straight and on-speed than it would in any approved slip. We just did it to practice for other airplanes.
@geebeedee95096 жыл бұрын
It's like drifting with a plane
@SVSky5 жыл бұрын
Yep! Actually to be precise it's a braking drift.
@matthewwinters44044 жыл бұрын
😂
@milosbrndiar4 жыл бұрын
DRIFTING WOULD BE SKID :-))))
@eliasengelen58793 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@littleferrhis3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the most important part of the checklist: slapping on some eurobeat.
@garyggarner77384 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video and explanation!! I reviewed several times and your explanation and video demonstration made the procedure very easy to understand! Thanks so much!
@craptor3607 жыл бұрын
I thought the POH stated to avoid slips with flaps extended.
@SammSheperd7 жыл бұрын
mostly a myth
@GZA0367 жыл бұрын
hmm.
@beavage85927 жыл бұрын
Not a myth by any means, I use no more than 20 degrees. Think about it, if you're slipping in the first place you're already too high above glidepath. If you full flaps you're adding induced drag so your likely hood of stall/spin occurrence is higher with more flaps. Flaps are used for decrease in altitude with out an increase in airspeed, same with a slip. So if you put two and two together here you can stall on approach. Definitely not a myth, I've used too much flaps on a slip and did indeed stall slightly but recovered fast
@juandiegoceballosgomez36546 жыл бұрын
This is what the POH says, however, it's a recommendation , not an obligation to do so: "Steep slips should be avoided with flap settings greater than 20° due to a slight tendency for the elevator to oscillate under certain combinations of airspeed, sideslip angle, and center of gravity loadings."
@christopherwilson65276 жыл бұрын
Obey the POH. If it all goes wrong its there in black and white not to do them.
@warrenjbrown48986 жыл бұрын
A lot of great info in a short time...nicely done! Thanks!
@chrisnielsen54672 жыл бұрын
I recognize that this has been done with planes I've been on. It always flips my stomach
@clydecessna7376 жыл бұрын
With full flap a Cessna 150 and other aircraft, a slip can blank out the elevator all together. Full flap and full control deflection in a slip should be avoided in a landing. Recovery, as in most cases od pilot mishandling, is to take your hands and feet off the controls.
@747-pilot4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's because (if I'm not mistaken) the 150 has 40 degrees of flaps. Same with the C172M (the "mike" model), which also has 40 degrees at full extension, versus 30 degrees for the other models, as well as the newer sibling of the 150, the 152. Most of my post Private flying was done in the mike model and the POH advised to avoid forward slips with full flaps. I felt it kinda defeats the purpose of the forward slip, which is to add maximum drag! The other models with 30-degree max flaps did not have that limitation!
@PeopleQuang4 жыл бұрын
How to drift a plane: *air canada 143*
@XPlaneAviation5 жыл бұрын
in this video, it shows that you have to have flaps fully extended, but I’ve also seen some aircrafts being prohibited from having flaps extended for a forward slip. Can I ask why that is?
@d.n.36525 жыл бұрын
X-Plane Aviation because in any normal landing, you’d be using flaps
@XPlaneAviation5 жыл бұрын
D. N. except some aircrafts have in their SOPS to NOT have flaps extended for forward slips, including the C172 lineup
@djs99775 жыл бұрын
I believe it is how the air, in a forward slip, affects the flight control and areodynamic characteristics of that particular aircraft. Some aircraft have negative affects from flaps deployed in a forward slip. Others do not due to differences in design.
@DirtyPIRATE83133 жыл бұрын
For the 172, it is recommended in the POH that slips are not performed with more than 10deg flaps. Probably due do decreased maneuvering and stalls.
@sixtealbisetti24803 жыл бұрын
I don't use forward slips much in a plane, first the plane doesn't really like it and second the runway is usually long enough to accomodate with a too high approach With a glider, however, it's more common and the gliders are able to support it. I love doing a slip, it's like drifting but in the air...but my supervisor told me to not do too much slips because it scares the passenger. He's not wrong, when you don't know what's happenning a slip can be very scary
@scarybaldguy Жыл бұрын
Got to practice this today at DVT in my Cherk. Yup, even a Hershey Bar needs help sometimes.
@abbieamavi3 жыл бұрын
the first time my CFI showed me how to do this in private, I almost peed my pants because it felt so weird, but now I love doing them! 😂
@erinfreeman283 жыл бұрын
Bruh this comment has me dying, yeah they're so weird 😂
@PandiTheBear2 жыл бұрын
Idk if I felt that way but I like doing them too; student pilot with around 45 hours currently. Anytime I’m high I’ll throw in a slip of my flaps are maxed.
@NETWizzJbirk2 ай бұрын
lol. I think it was stalls that almost caused me to pee my pants. We are flying slow with the power off and the CFI is like pull harder. The stall indicator has been crying for like 30 seconds, and it is still not stalling, and the air speed is down to like 44 knots 😂… Oh gosh then it was power on stalls… yikes. That was the first time the plane actually tried to kill me
@spambedam Жыл бұрын
I recall an emergency landing of a disabled airliner and the pilot reported that he slipped it to get it on the runway. Can't recall if that was Sully in the Hudson or the plane that cartwheeled in Iowa. Someone remember?
@mohamedakhsassi51375 жыл бұрын
Morocco drift..good job!! Keep it up
@cq74152 жыл бұрын
Interesting aspect and explanation. Comments are good too. Thanks for sharing.
@ReplayEcho5 ай бұрын
This is what my dad told me he’s seen all the pilots that he met who crashed and died did not do. He said if you lose both engines and need to land in a field most pilots get to land it like they would on a runway and end up crashing into the ground. But he said in this situation you need to be higher than normal and forward slip into a landing because it allows the fastest descent while controlling air speed
@raulcavalcante91935 жыл бұрын
Deja vu i have been in space before
@NickThePilotUSA5 жыл бұрын
Raul Cavalcante Deja vu I’ve been in this place before***
@Jusiun5 жыл бұрын
@@NickThePilotUSA r/woosh
@nightingale-d3e4 жыл бұрын
@@Jusiun thats not a woooosh
@Jusiun4 жыл бұрын
@@nightingale-d3e whatever
@granitepeakaviation9082 жыл бұрын
I have some quite a few slips and it's pretty cool when it's done right
@joblessalex4 жыл бұрын
This looks incredibly dangerous. One step away from a mad spin at low altitude.
@witblitsfilm4 жыл бұрын
Only if you mismanage your speed. But definitely not a manoeuvre for a beginner who is not competent and comfortable and who has not been thoroughly trained and checked out by an instructor and theh had a lot of practice at sufficient safe recovery altitude (a good place to conduct most practice).
@Sousaboi8654 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure you do this only if you are too high and fast. The flight 143 had to do this procedure...
@StjepanNikolic3 жыл бұрын
In the slips the higher wing stalls first, so the aircraft will (try) to spin onto the other side and unstall itself when the wings are level. The key thing is to keep the nose down during slips and aircraft won't spin.
@connormclernon265 жыл бұрын
Deja vu I’ve been in this place before
@boommer35645 жыл бұрын
2:43 me: "TOO HIGH"
@tiny_toilet4 жыл бұрын
ok Boommer
@pratwurschtgulasch66624 жыл бұрын
keep in mind one wing will likely be in the shadow of the plane and will be prone to stalling, that's why it's important to make that the higher wing so worst case the plane returns back to level. If the lower wing is in the shadow and stalls you are screwed.
@bien.mp4 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by shadow of the plane?
@stephenyoungblood36835 жыл бұрын
Respected you until the “Drag-O-Meter”... 😜
@TheFlick1753 жыл бұрын
Remmber the guy that did this in a 767?
@dale116dot73 жыл бұрын
Captain Bob Pearson, Air Canada 143.
@yassm7 жыл бұрын
Air Canada 143
@voicetube6 жыл бұрын
That's what brought me here as well :-)
@GoldenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Yup me too I’m now going to try this in X plane
@therappingdog72915 жыл бұрын
Lol
@hendrixarchives1865 жыл бұрын
@@GoldenFlyer lol I did and it realy worked!
@GoldenFlyer5 жыл бұрын
Blaze Elixir's Aviation,games it worked for me too!
@shadowscall77587 ай бұрын
In every 172 I have flown, there is a placard to avoid slips with flaps extended, so in those planes, do you just not put in flaps but do everything else to do the forward slip?
@mylayovers72339 ай бұрын
Aren't C172S POH advise not to forward slip with 30 degree flaps?
@JBorda4 жыл бұрын
Wow i had no idea of this technique. It looks difficult
@grilledcheese96742 жыл бұрын
Having flaps fully extending puts stress on the flap when in a slip condition. Slipping with flaps retracted adds more surface area hence more drag, making the decent rate more effective as well as treating the aircraft more delicately
@lukarekhviashvili18552 жыл бұрын
Bro what flaps are by definition drag
@barz1221 Жыл бұрын
This depends on the aircraft does it not? Some manufacturers don’t allow for it but Cessna does
@gaguy19672 жыл бұрын
is this a dangerous maneuver?
@laurentius18557 жыл бұрын
This guy is a GOD!
3 жыл бұрын
It really works if you are high during simulated engine failures.
@dale116dot73 жыл бұрын
Or real engine failures, even in a Boeing 767.
@scruffy5244 жыл бұрын
Black box down podcast!
@speezy14142 жыл бұрын
the 172 poh even says it recommends slipping with no more than flaps 20 as others have said on here
@OnceShy_TwiceBitten Жыл бұрын
so what is the difference between a slip and just crabbing? lol also, every c172 I see says avoid slips with flaps down, so??? lmao wtf
@samgreer97052 жыл бұрын
DEJAVU! I have been in this place before!
@jackiewindham81994 жыл бұрын
Good practice and a lot of fun in my J3.
@mikel99486 жыл бұрын
What‘s the difference between forward slip and side slip ?
@SVSky6 жыл бұрын
In a turn vs not.
@SVSky6 жыл бұрын
I slip on a 180 approach from a downwind then convert to a forward slip as I line up with the runway, so which is which flightLdr1?
@SVSky6 жыл бұрын
The very definition of a slip is uncoordinated flight. And in planes with no flaps (like I fly) it's very much intentional.
@christopherwilson65276 жыл бұрын
If your banked for a turn, pointing nose away from the turn is a slip. Pointing nose into turn is a skid. Slip out of a turn but skid into it.
@jandejong24304 жыл бұрын
Investigate at altitude the possibility of engine stoppage because of unporting of a low wing wing tank!
@hundred-dollarhamburger60424 жыл бұрын
Just make a video on power off 180 combines forward slip to landing, it’s no mean perfect, just trying to help those in their aviation journey
@TurboDirectSA2 жыл бұрын
Great video - thank you.
@blueskyuraniumcorp.81435 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@nickblake8022 жыл бұрын
In most of the 172 your not suppose to slip with full flaps. Check the POH.
@mmb8113 ай бұрын
Flaps down is not recommended, it even says AVOID SLIP WITH FLAPS EXTENDED
@douglashagan652 жыл бұрын
I am coming down now my Ford slip landing is short runway which is there's no obstructions I'm making a forest land in America when it's equipped with flaps and I'm attempt to forward slip with a flaps extended hand hook but aircraft
@Outdoorcookwarereviews2 жыл бұрын
The Gimli Glider
@ron_burgundy41723 жыл бұрын
The 172 was built for this.
@kylersmiler92742 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the video, however In most 172’s and 150’s aren’t slips prohibited with flaps extended?
@scarybaldguy Жыл бұрын
Not prohibited as such, just not recommended ("*avoid* slips with flaps extended" is the POH verbiage).
@kylersmiler9274 Жыл бұрын
@@scarybaldguy thank you!
@MD-ve9eh7 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks
@freepilot77322 жыл бұрын
I believe Cessna advises not to foward slip with flaps down. Buffering may occur. I felt this in a 150.
@bien.mp4 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the model
@freepilot7732 Жыл бұрын
@@bien.mp4 which model?
@bien.mp4 Жыл бұрын
@@freepilot7732 I'm aware N model advises against flaps full slips. I think it's allowed on the S. I could be wrong though
@king-vd9sq Жыл бұрын
جزاك الله خير
@phillipdelcore59533 жыл бұрын
Alright now lets practice a forward skid
@shawshank_13173 жыл бұрын
Can we forward slip in clean config to lose height quickly? Sometimes i need to lose 1000 ft quickly to join a circuit
@bruce23573 жыл бұрын
When I took my check ride the examiner did a simulated engine failure on down wind and told me I could not use flaps. I stayed high because I didn't want to come up short and fail the ride, it was a 3k foot long runway so not a lot of room for error. I slipped the plane on final to get it down. Obviously you get a higher rate of descent with full flaps in the slip but I had no choice.
@dainsleif79164 жыл бұрын
I know these "Slips" Are not for big planes but might aswell try it with the A380
@dale116dot73 жыл бұрын
It works on a 767 that’s out of fuel.
@spambedam Жыл бұрын
Suly slipped that big bus to get it into the Hudson if I recall. So it can be done with a heavy and there Are times when it will save your arse.
@crohr10004 жыл бұрын
But in POH 172 it sais do NOT perform slips with flaps down?!?
@gregoriocamilleri56553 жыл бұрын
he said that
@rosemarie38665 жыл бұрын
nice shoes
@fabrix199 Жыл бұрын
not me learning about aerodynamics just to fly better in games
@istepontoast34975 жыл бұрын
Thx dr Phil
@eridean_nokodal2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: There was a pilot who pulled this off in a Boeing 767
@scarybaldguy Жыл бұрын
Gimli Glider?
@Tukah4 жыл бұрын
Isn't this a skid and not a slip?
@jackriley59743 жыл бұрын
Is there anything like a rearward slip??
@muhammadsteinberg3 жыл бұрын
Yes...It happens when you load aft of CG and don't recover from a nose high attitude. Usually not a good landing!...Often ending in a funeral or memorial.
@adcraziness1501 Жыл бұрын
Oh man they are suggesting slips with flaps now.
@eraserlaser2 жыл бұрын
If you're too high, just do a simple go around and avoid the risks of fudging a landing
@mrkhan29837 жыл бұрын
What will happen to ASI during side slip ?? Will it increase or decrease ?
@ERAUSpecialVFR7 жыл бұрын
That depends on a number of factors, including the position of the pitot tube and static port, as well as the direction and angle of the slip. Therefore, you can generally assume that your indicated airspeed will be inaccurate during a slip. You should rely on your pitch attitude and power settings to manage airspeed.
@badgerfishinski68573 күн бұрын
Obviously....First of all we don't want to stall when doing this maneuver, so we keep the nose pointed down. But did you know that a stall in a forward slip is safer than an uncoordinated skidding turn? If you stall in a skidding uncoordinated turn, you will flip..... but won't flip in a slip. In other words, don't stall in a skidding turn......
@serverlan763 Жыл бұрын
3.25 seems somewhat contradictory.
@TheOfficialEvoSae8 ай бұрын
almost died because of this
@Llciferrr2 жыл бұрын
"Air canada 173"
@stationmanager9325 Жыл бұрын
The whole above manouver I believ is not ever needed. Ther are many other ways of putting the aeroplane in the right place at the right attitude.
@nicholasr795 жыл бұрын
Who wears plastic shoes?
@TheRandomRobloxian3 жыл бұрын
pov: everyone here from ac143
@SasukeUchiha-tc9xx4 жыл бұрын
DEJA VU
@s4iL_6 жыл бұрын
tokyo drift
@voicetube6 жыл бұрын
… Or in the case of flight 143 back in 1983, "Gimli Drift" :-)
@wollyxl2 жыл бұрын
Stop calling it a forward slip its clearly a side slip.
@raybrown6992 Жыл бұрын
Forward slip Loose altitude rapidly. Allowing the wings to slip into the air whilst losing altitude. Once you have lost appropriate altitude, you can correct the wings for a stabilised landing.
@edmoore39102 жыл бұрын
False info. Get you into trouble. Come in hot with slips..
@bobhebbard56887 жыл бұрын
Forward slip? It's called a slip, not "foward slip". If you get into a backward slip, you got some SERIOUS problems!!!!!!
@ERAUSpecialVFR7 жыл бұрын
"Slips" are generally referred to in three different situations in aviation. The first, is a "slipping turn," which is usually an undesired and uncoordinated maneuver that arises due to improper rudder inputs. The second is the "Side Slip," which is most often used to align the longitudinal axis of the airplane with the runway centerline during a crosswind landing. The third most common use of the term "slip" is the "Forward Slip," which is most commonly used to increase the angle of descent during final approach without increasing airspeed. Backward Slip? We'll defer to our aerobatic friends for that maneuver.
@TenMinuteTrips7 жыл бұрын
I would like to offer this perspective that a "slipping turn" comes in handy while in the pattern when flying an airplane like a Decathlon which doesn't have flaps. The goal is the same as a forward slip. Lose altitude without increasing airspeed but during a base to final turn.
@stationmanager9325 Жыл бұрын
There is no safety in any flight slip. You don't have to d0 any slips in Flying., ie., VFR or IFR.If you are using slipping, head back to your teacher and get him to teacher you the basics ie., CLHALFEROWVSQUAREDS.S.
@scarybaldguy Жыл бұрын
DVT tower this morning kept me well above pattern alt and cleared me to land fairly close in, so much so that with full flaps and idle power I was still high. 10 seconds of forward slip got me back on the PAPI. I also did power-off 180 slips to landing during my tailwheel endorsement. Done properly they're no more dangerous than any other maneuver.