Forza Horzon 5 🇲🇽 Slick Tires Vs Semi-Slick Tires - Which Is Best For Your Road Racing Cars?

[@phalanx3803]

what the game needs it tire sets that can be changed at the start of a race or in free roam. you dont see pro race teams show up with one type of tire they have different types and before the race starts they change them to fit weather and track conditions.

[@ConnerSpeed6]

110% agree!

[@AndreasC23]

You could set the game on autodrive and have it do laps of a circuit, that way the variable (your driving) is removed. You can check peak cornering speed on varying setups, peak G-force etc. Of course, I'm not 100% sure the autosteering is perfectly accurate every single lap, but I'd imagine it's more consistent than a human would be. Especially when the time difference comes down to tenths of a second.

[@KingKoom]

wow amazing, didnt even think about this

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Very good thought. Thanks for watching!

[@ConnerSpeed6]

For real though! 🤣

[@jeremygorski7570]

how to set it on autodrive?

[@liljimKLM]

@Jeremy Gorski Settings>difficulty>steering>auto steering. >braking>assisted.

[@CptnMadCap]

I would be incredibly interested in seeing the Drag Slicks aired up and compared directly to the Street and Sport Compounds for cornering. The Drags fit in between those others as far as PI budget, and I have a feeling that the drags might outperform on lower (D

[@ConnerSpeed6]

I install drags on my B and A Class builds at times, but sometimes it causes bad understeer!

[@CptnMadCap]

@@ConnerSpeed6 I wonder if the under steer could be tuned out with some roll bar adjustments? The adjustable ARBs are also super cheap on PI, and I know they can be used in that way but I'm not great at identifying what the fix for over vs under steer (front vs rear adjustment and why one would make more sense) I did a bunch of testing last night using auto drive and a 10 lap circuit track with the same car, just the different tires installed, all aired to 30lbs f/r recorded the first lap, best lap, overall time and the PI value of each setup. I used a hand tuned A class Buick GNX with everything installed possible. Stock A 731: 1st: 58.387 Best: 55.087 TTL: 9.17.848 Drag S1 811: 1st: 55.434 Best: 52.728 TTL: 8.52.580 Street A 798: 1st: 54.799 Best: 51.518 TTL: 8.41.221 Sport S1 827: 1st: 53.094 Best: 49.711 TTL: 8.23.754 Rally S1 831: 1st: 52.822 Best: 49.750 TTL: 8.23.131 S-Slick S1 852: 1st: 51.521 Best: 48.436 TTL: 8.10.035 So after using this method the results are exactly what you would expect from an AI driver. I went back and drove each tire a few laps with all assists off, manual(no clutch so I could pay attention to the cars feel more) and my conclusions were thus: Drags had the most comparable braking times/feel to the semi slicks, however the understeer was really bad and I lost a lot of time braking for turns. Coming out of corners the drags just hook up. Never spun a tires running the drags. Street, sport, rally all break loose and cause potential spin out with too much throttle on turn exit. Sport and Rally are virtually identical in feel to me I almost every way, until you slip a drive tire off the track a little and the the rally keeps grip, while sport will lose a little and spin if you're on the throttle. I feel like there's a way to get drags to corner better, but I'm very limited in my knowledge of tuning in Forza. Sorry for the boom and I hope this was helpful!

[@papabones6307]

Also a big difference in the road surface along with weight of the car. On wet cobblestone like in Guanajuato, Race slicks are like on ice. Semi Slicks definitely the choice and Rally tires perform pretty well also.

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Oh snap. Good thought!

[@lohostege]

In my S1 Griffith, I raced it in MP with full slicks, it outgripped everyone easily, but when it came to the straights, it couldn't keep up, but when I switched it to semi-slicks, it still had a ton of grip, but I added more power (and 7 speed gearbox so it can top out higher) and it seems faster. Haven't tested it in MP yet though.

[@ConnerSpeed6]

For sure. At the end of the video here I basically said I would just be installing the Semi's to get more power! LOL! That is always better, right?!

[@balfazar3673]

7 gears have a been a life saver, just to get that peak top end, glad you're enjoying toying with the Griffith. ^_^

[@KingKoom]

i set a 59 sec lap time on this track :) felt AMAZING after i finished , was with a lambo, i think with good tuning and things and such you can keep the semi-slick for S1 cars

[@ConnerSpeed6]

I think I agree. Especially since I could throw about 60 more HP at it! Nice lap, my dude

[@TheA53ford]

Huh I need to test this with my Mega M3 build to see how that handles it. (BTW have a good day Connor. It's HondaGuy from Discord btw if the Suicune seems fimilar. Use your stuff to help even my replica builds)

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Hell yeah! I hope this and my other videos help! Thanks so much for the support!

[@ZykopathOfficial]

Another Great Explanation for a much-needed topic!

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Ayy! Thank you 🙌

[@Fantasyze]

Was curious about this because I saw lateral G's weren't changing at all between semi-slick and slick. I also saw that the semi-slicks have a shorter braking distance than the slicks.. I haven't actually tested it though, very nice video!

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Yeah! Lots of things to assess when installing tires and tuning in general in FH5. Thanks for the support!

[@Fantasyze]

@@ConnerSpeed6 yes indeed. gotta love it. and no problem! keep it up

[@effisjens1776]

I think most people would just stick with the semi-slick tires instead of the full-slicks. The difference in overall grip is just to small to really be worth it if you can squeeze just a few more horses out the engine. What i think is also important is the behavior of a tire and how it reacts to steering inputs. You see, yesterday i was busy playing with my drag slicks equipped F40LM (allows it to be raced in S1 class if AWD is equipped) and, while it works fine, if handeling is a bit floaty. Compare it to my A800 class RX7, i noticed that car it's handeling was more consitent. What seems to be happening is that, when you turn, the drag-slicks seem to understeer for a few milliseconds, and increase the turning radius, before turning in properly, therefore it's inconsistent. Meanwhile the RX7, it's consistent. It doesn't get that split second of understeer. It will hold it's turning radius at speed. Maybe that's something worth pointing out if you ever do some tests with the odd-choice tire compounds like the full off-road cross country tires and the drag slicks

[@ConnerSpeed6]

I completely agree with you! The semi-slicks seem to be the way to go. Especially since the weather varies race to race. Slicks would definitely be the way to go on S2 Rivals builds though

[@racdude01]

Since the semis allow for more power to be added, r pretty close in dry and better in wet I’d say they r the best all around choice. I really only use slicks if the car I’m upgrading doesn’t make to the top of a class with just semis

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Indeed!

[@Andro5pt0]

Great video Connor! Loved the off road vs rally comparison video also

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Awesome! Thank you for the support!

[@curiosity5012]

For me i always pud semis for S1 900 because i like the extra hp, for Slicks i only take them if i heave a car with too much hp or reaching S2+

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Yeah, that seems to be the consensus for sure! Hell. Even Rally tires are often chosen!

[@DaveSpen]

I wouldn't say .2 is a huge margin, also it's one you'll get back with more power from the 7 PI deficit. Also, did you check Lateral Gs? I noticed it does NOT increase with slicks as expected.

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Yeah, it really didn't! Towards the end of the video I came to the conclusion that the Semi's were probably the way to go! Especially since online racing is u predictable with the weather!

[@m1k3g3tz]

i'd like to see this same comparison, in the wet between the semis and rally tires, only adjust the PI back to 900 with the tire swaps ... i am thinking the margin might shrink even a little more. i have been running rally tires on almost everything - they seem to be a lot more forgiving with dirt drops and kerbs, and let you drizzle on a few more HP to boot.

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Yep. That's the next plan!!!

[@THESPECTER1984]

I run simulation everything. so if you are running cosmetic or no damage at all that will only help me in co op races

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Nice!

[@Tazastical]

Lovely Content! :)

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Well thanks 🙂

[@coreyscolaro288]

Haven't tested this but I'm almost certain the tires also are different when ur past the traction limit. Semi slicks are easier to manage when sliding or spinning , the slicks need faster adjustments. I think overall the slicks have less grip past its traction limit. Which maybe explains why they are less grippy on launches than semis. I did a few rwd drag races, just floored it spinning nd never shifted and passed the line in first. The semis were .2 s faster

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Whoa. Great idea on the test! I'll be running semi's unless I have a specific S2 build strictly for dry weather racing.

[@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263]

Oh my, thats a fine LFA Brother.

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Sounds amazing, right?!?!

[@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263]

@@ConnerSpeed6 It does.

[@jase1568]

For me, the biggest difference I noticed between semi slicks and slicks is in the braking.

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Big difference!

[@damonguzman]

Considering the length of this video, it is extremely disappointing that you didn't test every combination to make arrive a DEFINITIVE best tire compound. I searched and clicked on a video of tire compound to discover the best compound and I didn't receive an answer, only more questions.

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Just use Semi Slicks. The gain is handling on slicks isn't worth the amount of PI. Especially since you can add more power and a little more nailing when using semi's.

[@floomuscw6628]

I feel like slicks are more for circuit races and semis are more general purpose. I miss the rally tire meta :(

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Rally tire is so good for A and S1!

[@floomuscw6628]

@@ConnerSpeed6 Against players yeah but the AI suck in fh5, (I might've mentioned this?) they don't match your tune like they did in fh4.

[@j.d.4697]

You forgot to mention whether there were any other driving helps enabled besides the brake line.

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Hey! I don't use any assists. Sim steering, no ABS, No TCS, Manual transmission!

[@mybasshertz1668]

Quick question before I watch, do you stream live?

[@ConnerSpeed6]

I do at times. Typically once a week. Friday evenings around 10 PM EST

[@Moultronn2.0]

You're the man!! Loved the track you posted BTW 👍🏼 keep killing it with the content. I don't know what track it was but you challenged me in rivals on a dirt track using the RS200! Dude!! Slow down 😂 I couldn't beat you!! But I loved it 😎👉🏼👉🏼 I'm F34R C4RN4G3 online. Have to use the gamertag I made when I was 14 lol

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Oh damn! I don't remember running rivals in the Hoon RS200! THAT CAR IS AMAZING THOUGH!

[@olivialambert4124]

I've seen the Horizon semi slicks different to the normal semi slicks occasionally. For example my RX7 has 15 psi pressures instead of 31 for the Horizon semi slicks. I have to wonder if its a bug or if theres a difference between the two there.

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Whoa, seriously?!?! That shouldn't be the case at all!

[@olivialambert4124]

@@ConnerSpeed6 Yeah its odd, maybe its just a bug then. All the stats suggest they should be the same at least. I'm just not a good enough driver to tell if they're different by design or by mistake, but on closer inspection the psi is the same for most cars I looked at.

Would be interesting without forza aero as it would more depend on mechanical grip. Great video anyway 👍

[@ConnerSpeed6]

For sure. The LFA could definitely do well without aero!

[@robinv2758]

*V10 noises intensify*

[@ConnerSpeed6]

The Majestic sounds of an insanely expensive Japanese Luxury Supercar

[@weles1989]

just the fact that slicks have more grip doesnt help much in building a car, whether the grip difference is worth loss in horsepower is more important

[@ConnerSpeed6]

As I state toward the end of the video :) Added HP is probably the way to go here considering there is maybe a second difference between the tires in dry conditions.

[@oogie-boogie]

what about the temp of the tires?,, would the air pressure change any thing? in other words could you change the pressure in the simis to get the grip you were missing?,, im new to the hole tuning thing,

[@ConnerSpeed6]

You can definitely adjust the PSI, however the same can be done with the Slicks to help them as well. I did adjust bother compound PSI's for the test.

[@oscarvayo7098]

Whats the bes pressure for each compound?

[@ConnerSpeed6]

About the same really. I would say 28 PSI IIRC

[@chris-om6bq]

Is tyre temperature a thing in online races?

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Only a thing if you run sim damage

[@chris-om6bq]

@@ConnerSpeed6 my steering is sim but my damage is cosmetic.

[@ConnerSpeed6]

@@chris-om6bq same here!

[@chris-om6bq]

@@ConnerSpeed6 so im not affected by temps then?

[@ConnerSpeed6]

@@chris-om6bq nah

[@starshippower88]

#EngagementGang

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Let's go!

[@bongwaterbojack]

Hurting my feelings with that AWD, bro.

[@bongwaterbojack]

Informative video though. Good job!

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Yeah, I have a few RWD road tu es out there! The GR Supra is a fun S1 RWD car!

[@bongwaterbojack]

@@ConnerSpeed6 S1 road, I run all my cars RWD unless they were AWD factory. Personally prefer the feel and don't think the performance difference is enough to push the advantage either way. With S2, the advantage goes to AWD outside of a few S2 cars like the Ultima. But at that point, it really takes some dedication to put up with how much of a pain in the ass the cars can be to drive. At the end of the day, I do most of my racing in B and A anyways lol

[@charles5477]

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[@ConnerSpeed6]

Hey! Happy birthday!!!!

[@charles5477]

@@ConnerSpeed6 thanks

[@charles5477]

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[@Arleneim]

What is the point of comparing the two types if you are not going to fill in the PI difference and jump to any conclusions from there? Slicks are grippier that semi-slicks on dry tarmac, well no shit sherlock.

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Lmao! I was doing this to see the time gap, Sherlock. You can assume all you want. But in my Rally Tire vs offroad tire comparison, the offroad was faster. Even when tarmac was involved. It's a game, not reality.

[@Arleneim]

@@ConnerSpeed6 I only assumed what your title indicated. You even addressed the PI difference but not include it in your test, which got me puzzled. It would be a richer experience to see that included in the video, instead of spending 15 min on a video to see that the green marker on the upgrade screen implied in the first place. Anywho this is not a hate comment, take what you will from it.

[@ConnerSpeed6]

At the end of the video I addressed my thoughts on the PI difference stating that I would most likely use the semi's and throw more HP at the cars! Comparing full builds with opposing tires is a whole video on its own. Unfortunately, that's just how it goes when running tests. I don't know the outcomes when I record these. I just go with it and see what happens! 👍

[@itzzjayx2952]

why do i say (Four Zah) and other streamers say FORTZA

[@ConnerSpeed6]

The word's proper pronunciation is "For-tzah" :)

[@starshippower88]

Hello hello

[@ConnerSpeed6]

SUP?!?!

[@merginator]

Dirt tires on everything.

[@ConnerSpeed6]

Drifting = Fast driver