How to Tune cars in Forza Horizon 5 *All you need to know*

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Charlie

Charlie

2 жыл бұрын

Hello and welcome back to another WheelSpinTV episode , todays video is all about tuning your car to the best of its capabilities. this is primarily for wheel users but also works for controller users. I will be showing you everything you need to know about tuning and making your car act how you want it . I will tell you what each individual setting does and how to tune out understeer and over steer .This will work on all platforms including Xbox one series X , Xbox series S , Xbox one S , Xbox one X and PC. I am using a Thrustmaster TMX PRO with Thrustmaster T8HA shifter on a Playseat Challenge rig .Please share to anyone you know who uses a wheel and don't forget to like and subscribe , Thanks for tuning in.

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@westleyparker7810
@westleyparker7810 2 жыл бұрын
I love grip tunes, untill you learn that everyone driving online wants to be far ahead of everyone and rams you into walls and dirt EVEN when your playing driveatars and you winning, you will still punted into the phantom zone
@phalanx3803
@phalanx3803 Жыл бұрын
i hate driveatars what i find anoying as hell is they stick to the road like glue you can t bone the pricks as top speed and they hardly move they can take cars around corners far faster then a player can hell on higher difficulties they can make cars go faster then they can nothing like seeing some shit box go 450 when you can hardly go 400 with out sacrificing corning grip.
@ozztelorman7057
@ozztelorman7057 Жыл бұрын
The formula is obviously the one used in the majority of Forza Horizon 4 tuning guides (the one i stumbled upon first was HokiHoshi's, btw) - however, there are some issues that has to be pointed out - as there have been significant changes regarding handling characteristics since Forza Horizon 4. - The weight distribution is unquestionably the main guide for us tuners, yet one aspect is often overlooked: the total weight of the car. As you may read the suspension info to the right, "stiffer suspension travels more weight" yet if the car is, for example under 1000 kg (or 2200 lbs.) there will be a lot less weight to travel and the suspension will start to become obsolete: yes it's expected that while cornering, less travel is better but no travel is even worse because your tires will need that weight travel upon them for a healthy contact patch to the road. On the other hand, if the car weighs more than 1250-1300 kg (or 2800 lbs.), you'll need more travel but again, find the sweet spot of stiffness for the same reason. So how to set this up, properly? By fine-tuning for a little less stiffness for lighter cars and a little more for heavier cars, after applying the formula given in the video. You can even do that by using the suspension telemetry, cornering at low and high speeds and observing the amount of travel the springs are experiencing. Make sure none of them bottoms out. The same goes for anti-roll bars: You don't need stiffer adjustment when there is less weight to mitigate the body roll because stiffer-than-needed settings will effect handling negatively. The rebound and bump settings are pretty much obey the formula, yet i find it better to multiply rebound values with 0.63 rather than 0.5 (to calculate bump) in order to prevent excessive jumpiness of the vehicle at high speeds and maybe even lower rebound a little after the calculation, if the car is lighter than say, 2500 lbs. As RWD car handling is drastically improved in Forza Horizon 5 (compared to FH4), min-maxing anti-roll and suspension settings sometimes works wonders yet may not be applicable for all vehicles. AWD cars are more tolerant on that matter, yet you should always consider the engine position and car weight change after a swap (if there is any) before min-maxing since it's the heaviest internal component of the car :) - Observing the alignment (camber, toe-in, caster) telemetry on roundabouts is often misleading: you should find an inclined road with good amount of corners to carry out alignment settings - because while climbing up, the majority of the weight is on your rear wheels and climbing down, it's on the front: so it'll be better to observe your alignment accordingly (for example: observe front right setting while driving downhill on a left corner, rear left setting while driving uphill on a right corner etc.) It is also better to adjust caster angle higher than 5 in order to get negative front camber without setting it too low (for example: adjusting -1.2 front camber/4.5 caster will yield nearly the same as -0.2 camber/5.5 caster) but as your front springs will be more parallel to the ground, your rebound/bump will be less affected by excessive weight travel. However, it's better for your front camber to stay in negative range so, adjust your caster angle to ensure you see no positive values at the telemetry screen. Rear camber is independent of this setting. - Lastly, you should consider the engine swap mechanics when adjusting the gear ratios: some swaps (racing engines, mostly) sacrifice max. torque for power because they often have less displacement in order to be lighter even if they utilize higher number of cylinders (except rally engines). If this is the case, you need shorter ratios at higher gears in order to avoid inefficient torque distribution. Engine displacement upgrade sometimes helps but not that much. If such a swap also includes camshaft upgrade, since your rpm band broadens (meaning; your red-line increases) you should consider installing race transmissions with more gears. The clutch upgrade depends more on your control setup but will be required if you are driving in auto or manual without the clutch option.
@hitmancorporation
@hitmancorporation Жыл бұрын
This "find an inclined road with good amount of corners to carry out alignment settings" good thinking. I'm going to include this into my test track. It's those downhill turns that gets you from time to time. I am also after a total weight vs baseline spring stiffness. Drift suspension because of it's extreme stiffness is not always optimal. I lift my height slightly to introduce functional bodyroll.
@badrequest2832
@badrequest2832 9 ай бұрын
The formula is basic algebra
@patrick247two
@patrick247two Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your tips. Very helpful. This is a set of calculations I made to make some set up tasks quicker. The first column is front weight %. The second column is anti roll. the max/min is 1/65. Many cars use this range (as far as I know). The third and fourth columns are rebound/bump values. 1/10 and 1/20 min/max work in FH 4 while 1/20 is applied to FH 5. Forza Horizon 4 and 5 suspension setting guide. Front weight Anti-roll Rebound/Bump % 1/65 1/10 1/20 40 26.8 4.6/2.7 9.8/5.8 41 27.2 4.7/2.8 10.0/5.8 42 27.8 4.8/2.9 10.1/6.1 43 28.5 4.9/2.9 10.3/6.2 44 29.1 5.0/3.0 10.5/6.3 45 29.8 5.0/3.0 10.6/6.3 46 30.4 5.1/3.1 10.8/6.5 47 31.0 5.2/3.1 10.9/6.5 48 31.7 5.3/3.2 11.1/6.6 49 32.3 5.4/3.2 11.3/6.8 50 33.0 5.5/3.3 11.5/6.9 51 33.6 5.6/3.3 11.6/6.9 52 34.3 5.7/3.4 11.8/7.0 53 34.9 5.7/3.4 12.0/7.2 54 35.5 5.8/3.5 12.2/7.3 55 36.2 5.9/3.5 12.3/7.4 56 36.8 6.0/3.6 12.5/7.5 57 37.5 6.1/3.6 12.7/7.6 58 38.1 6.2/3.7 12.8/7.7 59 38.7 6.3/3.8 13.0/7.8 60 39.4 6.4/3.8 13.2/7.9 Spring Strength Calculation. Front: (((Max setting - Min setting) x front weight balance %) + Min Setting) = ______ Rear: (((Max setting - Min setting) x (100 - front weight balance %)) + Min Setting) = ______ For the gear ratio tune set the final ratio to 4.10. Make 1st as high as you can and still take off. Make top gear redline once during the duration of the circuit. Distribute the remaining gears between first and top. After a bit of practice you will find you can fine tune the intermediate gears for particular corners or braking zones. With my set up (G-25, auto, left foot braking, home built race station, pc, no assists) I find altering brake pressure to 60% in my base tune is a good place to start. This curbs the tendency to lock up easily when set at 100%. With the lock up under control I can then use the brake to trigger a down shift. I can then maximize my gear ratios to move down shifts where I want them. I also find it easier to trail brake at 60% I like tuning cars with less power. It's fun.
@keshawncooley7937
@keshawncooley7937 Жыл бұрын
Could you teach me?
@patrick247two
@patrick247two Жыл бұрын
@@keshawncooley7937 Sure, how can I help.
@antaras80
@antaras80 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this guide. I can finally enjoy it with my new set of G29. Previously it's always understeering or washing out every where. Now I can finally control and enjoy a fun drive! So much to learn with all these settings. Thanks again!
@vasilissousounis2334
@vasilissousounis2334 Жыл бұрын
THE best tune guide out there!! Vary detailed and gives you an in depth understanding of all the tune details!!! Great job!!!
@itiscrook
@itiscrook 2 жыл бұрын
For those who don’t know: Some engine’s power graphs, like the 6.2 V8’s, end just as the power and torque meet. Upgrading cams will get you around this, but comes at a PI cost.
@Lipzyncable
@Lipzyncable 2 жыл бұрын
this video is a godsend, I've always just used tune's on the tuning area because tuning a car personally just seemed so overwhelming and seemed way too confusing for my brain to understand, but the way you explain things and give the necessary info for each individual tune is amazing, keep it up bro!
@romie-777
@romie-777 6 ай бұрын
this tuning guide mostly covers realistic tuning methods, which aren’t terrible, but are much slower than meta settings in the context of forza on lots of cars, mostly awd swap ones, lower tire pressure, shorter gears, less camber and max caster, using 1-65 arbs, softer springs and higher ride height, softer rebound and bump settings, max front aero and lower rear (or more if its rwd), and aggressive differential settings will make any car turn much more and be much more responsive it might make it too oversteery but increase front arb, more centered diff balance in awd, or higher rear aero if it has too much oversteer
@guyturner912
@guyturner912 Жыл бұрын
Nice one geezer! I used your method in FH4 and now in FH5. It works. Really well..! I’ve just got a wheel and watched your setup guide. Perfect! Better than Hoki Hoshi! Keep the videos coming mate. Much appreciated.
@ifarikkemitlort1446
@ifarikkemitlort1446 2 жыл бұрын
hi..just want to say, your formula about tuning your car in forza 5 has really created a whole other play joy use that formula on my all my cars many thanks
@joeydny5816
@joeydny5816 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother. With that formula and knowing how to tweek it from there my cars are performing like crazy
@robsrides5851
@robsrides5851 2 жыл бұрын
❤thank you very much! best tuning guide out there. i can finally get a balanced base tune to start with on any car. other videos are guesswork. you lay out the math and it made a big difference for me.
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great feedback I really appreciate it 😎👊 I'm glad it helped.
@calabamian
@calabamian 6 ай бұрын
The only tuning guide you’ll need. I’ve done everything this lad says and am so much better.
@mariostinson-maas2569
@mariostinson-maas2569 2 жыл бұрын
Super helpful thank you!! Cant wait to try this out when I get home!
@puolalainen76
@puolalainen76 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, have never try even to try understand how it's work, but now finally I have a good explanation for every situation I need to know thanks to you💥💥
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and the great feedback I appreciate it 😎👊
@oldjoeclarke.
@oldjoeclarke. Жыл бұрын
Great video mate, fairly new to tunning and FH5 so this is really helpful, very well made as well, it is full of info and to the point.
@westonfajkus1530
@westonfajkus1530 2 жыл бұрын
Always love your informative videos man. Thanks and keep it up bro.
@calabamian
@calabamian 2 жыл бұрын
Love the way you explain stuff. Formulas very helpful as well…has really helped me.
@steel5897
@steel5897 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, gave your tuning formula a try and it instantly made cars more grippier on my steering wheel. Thanks a bunch, game is slowly but surely becoming playable and fun for me, I'm getting less frustrated with every play session. I don't know anything about tuning at all, it all flies over my head even when explained, but your formula is simple to use and has been producing good results for me. Another thing I learned to do is to swap RWD for AWD drivetrains, at least personally AWD is much easier to drive on my wheel, and also changing the gearing to 6 gear for cars that have over 6, as I use manual + clutch and my physical shifter only has 6 gears.
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great feedback 😀. 4wd will definitely give you more grip for sure as your experience grows you will Start enjoying the RWD cars aswell. Keep em lower powered and learn to slide and then keeping them tamed becomes easy enough. I'm glad your enjoying the game 😎👊
@Viceroy_95
@Viceroy_95 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! You helped me understand the suspension work ✌ Just got back into playing forza. I know how to tune the gears on most of the cars, but the suspension work always eluded my understanding. So you can imagine, most of my cars are what I like to call "cracked out" meaning they have massive power but no way to displace it properly throughout the car. So im always in the dirt. I drive pretty well, I'd say, but I felt the tunes were always what had me all over the road. I play on a controller but I have a sense for throttle control, im not one to mash the gas and see what happens, I like keeping my car on the road 🤣
@gh0ul667
@gh0ul667 2 жыл бұрын
Yo man i appreciate it this helped alot been getting in to more of the touge side of forza not necessarily competitive racing but touge runs solo or with a couple people was able to make my car the way i wanted,made a s14 276 hp touge build but now i know what to tune and the math side of things thank you man
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
I've been doing the same myself with some friends. We have been doing the Mountain drift zone with A800 grip set ups. It makes for some close racing and really enjoyable 😎👊
@sophiewarburton3501
@sophiewarburton3501 2 жыл бұрын
Mate this has changed everything for me Thankyou
@ericbruscoe5956
@ericbruscoe5956 Жыл бұрын
new sub bro..great vid..best tuning guide out there period..
@scooby_suby9384
@scooby_suby9384 2 жыл бұрын
This seem very similar to your Forza horizon 4 setting calculation . Number of the percentage seem change but it a great help. Always look forward to your video and also recommend to people. Keep up the great content!
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
It is pretty much the same with a few tweeks 😎👍 . Still using Drift suspension but we now have different differentials to use. I also lowered the damping percentage and anti roll bars tuning is down 2 points. Diff tuning is different on acceleration , I find these diff's lock up on a much lower numbers but not a hug amount has changed 👍 thanks for watching 👊
@Jakwob888
@Jakwob888 2 жыл бұрын
Great video bro, i knew a lot about tuning but i always struggled with front end grip. Changed over to drift springs and car handles way better. Wonder why that is though.
@michaelgraves9129
@michaelgraves9129 Жыл бұрын
Ridiculously good! Struggled to beat seasonal speed zone 180mph! Always around 7mph off - 2019 Bugatti Divo with no engine mods just suspension and tuning... 180.26 mph 😁😁 That's without diff upgrade aswell! Brilliant! Thank you
@gameplaytothemax7030
@gameplaytothemax7030 2 жыл бұрын
As always, You always provide great videos 🙌👍
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Thank for the kind words 😎👍
@ggman3000
@ggman3000 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Thumbs up
@abigailmeryl2174
@abigailmeryl2174 Жыл бұрын
Great job on this man! Thx
@Stillhere18
@Stillhere18 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Your advice shaved off 6 seconds off my time!
@balaf333
@balaf333 2 жыл бұрын
You're a Don 👌🏼🙏🏻💯 Liked and Subsribed!
@peterrobertson5672
@peterrobertson5672 2 жыл бұрын
great info again you helped me with drifting on fh4 hope this helps against i ai in fh5
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping to have a drift video up for FH5 by next week, the tuning is slightly different from FH4 but actual drifting skills are the same. I'm glad I could help 😎👍
@andreybrovkin1294
@andreybrovkin1294 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I knew the basics but didn't know what were the extreme vs normal values
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great feedback 😎👍
@michaelbeasley3151
@michaelbeasley3151 2 жыл бұрын
Any plans to do a video on Rally/ or off road racing or can this be used on that also.
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbeasley3151 not currently, my next video will be a drifting tutorial 😎👍
@Wokeupindesigner
@Wokeupindesigner 2 жыл бұрын
Solid content I rebuilt the same car
@fargomonkey5133
@fargomonkey5133 2 жыл бұрын
Very, very good! Thank you
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in 😎 👊
@ahmed_x5597
@ahmed_x5597 5 ай бұрын
damnn i love this guide
@chrisrickman9846
@chrisrickman9846 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. Exactly what I’ve been looking for. Sub…
@joeydny5816
@joeydny5816 2 жыл бұрын
This formula works perfect with a controller, thanks.
@martinferris4057
@martinferris4057 Жыл бұрын
Works like a charm, well done! Do you have a formula for Off Road / Cross Country?
@proffesionalgamingcars6992
@proffesionalgamingcars6992 2 жыл бұрын
Nice content my friend,i subs your channel✌️
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for tuning in and the great feedback, I really appreciate the Sub 😎👍
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
I just dropped you a Sub too 😎👊
@windedleopardgaming6481
@windedleopardgaming6481 2 жыл бұрын
Great video but you have caster angle backwards. The higher the number postive the more the caster leans back. 0 degrees is truly vertical and negative caster is when the car is leaning over forward. Google caster angle and you'll see what I mean. Everything else you said is spot on. I'm an auto tech and do alignments daily.
@garymapes6955
@garymapes6955 2 жыл бұрын
Great video i do alot of tuning so it's interesting to see what other people do and for the most part i do the same as you except I use semi slicks on s1 most of the time and add a little more power. I put slicks on s2 of course but i also use aero on s1 and above you can always lower your down force but the rear wing usually lowers pi so i always go for it to add some extra bits. Great video though.👍
@garymapes6955
@garymapes6955 2 жыл бұрын
I also tune for A and S1 mainly
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
The club I'm with does alot of bracket racing so we tend to keep things A800 ,S1,S2. Mainly A800 touge style races and S1/2 on a Long route. As a club rule we banned Aero for races so I've had to perfect the tunes to be competitive. I tend to use Slicks on all my builds due to cornering speed and being able to keep up the average speed. I think one of the only builds I used semi slicks was a R53 Mini A800 , it has a crazy amount of grip naturally which allowed me to save PI to get more power. Thanks for the great feedback and tuning in 😎👊
@cowpiekiller
@cowpiekiller 2 жыл бұрын
@@wheelspintv6864 you play a time attack based game and ban aero? I trust this tuning like a bridge seller in flordia.
@Soliye.
@Soliye. 2 жыл бұрын
@@cowpiekiller If you drive in a club that set out rules for races then naturally yes, his tuning will fit his play style. I think it’s a pretty good base for A classe as you don’t usually have the room for Aero, so the handling of the car relies heavily on the tune.
@martinferris4057
@martinferris4057 2 жыл бұрын
I incorporated your formula into a spreadsheet. All I gotta do is input the front weight ratio and the Min-Max Spring values, then the desired settings are are all calculated for me :)
@martinferris4057
@martinferris4057 Жыл бұрын
@Dan Hardy docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Swwm5ouAWB1i_V3tjd7iflWx8hF0Mr7VS2zfBVYadag/edit?usp=sharing
@martinferris4057
@martinferris4057 Жыл бұрын
@Dan Hardy it only calculates REBOUND & BUMP STIFFNESS, SPRING STIFFNESS and ANTI-ROLL. I have my own settings for everything else.
@retardno002
@retardno002 2 жыл бұрын
Make a dirt guide please focused on the dirt part of the tracks (like Baja Scramble or Caldera Scramble) not rally in the mixed surface sense of the word. ❤️ This was amazing!
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I appreciate the feedback 😎👊 unfortunately I don't do any dirt racing I play the game for races, cruises and drifting and the social aspect with my club. I'd have to learn it all myself before I could do a video.
@retardno002
@retardno002 2 жыл бұрын
@@wheelspintv6864 I'm in the process of learning myself, would have loved your input. The group B monsters that you can build are really awesome and most rally cars are just a blast. Most fun I've had in the game so far.
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
I did actually build a Audi Quattro Sport yesterday and had an absolute blast with it. I've built it as a small circuit race car and it's brilliant, the sound is almost perfection aswell 👌 I do love the old Group B that's my favourite era of rally ❤
@nickumberger7524
@nickumberger7524 6 ай бұрын
You can use race suspension and adjust the tune how drift is to catch the car the same. You'll notice the camber and Toe are similar but race is a little less numbers than drift suspension is. Also race ride hight isn't as low as drift. So you can run race suspension and then set the numbers the same as drifting numbers.
@indoorracing7128
@indoorracing7128 Жыл бұрын
Awesome videos I’ve learned a lot . Thanks!!! Is that a tmx pro steering wheel if it is what’s your settings? Thanks in advance
@Vulpi77
@Vulpi77 2 жыл бұрын
I love the game 4 and 5 but l try all now l have some experience This is give you lil ideea basics
@patrick247two
@patrick247two Жыл бұрын
You mention understeer. Perhaps dropping brake pressure to 60% will help. You may be locking up the brakes as you enter the corner under trail brake, causing your understeer. Might be a bit counter intuitive, but as you say, "I've tried every setting to fix this."
@hitmancorporation
@hitmancorporation Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the calculation you legend. I have about 700 plus tunes and started using this for all my baseline (1st stage) tunes since Aug 2022. Question, is there a formula for total car weight vs overall spring stiffness (meaning more than the ratio balance between front and back)? Give your black cat a pat haha
@kryddan666
@kryddan666 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. You explain everything in a nice and easy way. One thing though. How do I know what parts to use, or do you use the same ones all the time? I have noticed that some parts doesn't come with sport, race, off-road, rally, drift and so on. Thats the hardest part for me. What parts to go with.
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks that means alot 😎👊. It really depends on what I'm trying to build. I use drift suspension on everything that has it unless it's 4wd which I will use race suspension for ( both used for grip tuning) I always use race diffs. The rest is dependent on the build, use and class I'm looking for really. If I'm doing a class car I.E A800 or S1 900 , I will always start with slick tires , width , then suspension, anti roll bars , brakes and then move onto engine last. I follow the philosophy that Corner speed gives quicker times. The majority of tracks are twisty and require grip over power. I hope this helps 😎👊
@kryddan666
@kryddan666 2 жыл бұрын
@@wheelspintv6864 thank you. That makes it a bit easier. Now I know where to start.
@Pamani_
@Pamani_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I've seen this min max formula go around quite a bit. This basically mean that if your car had a theoretical 100% weight on the front, you'd want max spring on front and min spring on rear. What I find a bit strange is that it's assume that the min and max spring boundaries are correctly fitted for the car, which is a big IF in my book :/ For instance if you apply a car weight reduction upgrade, wouldn't you want to soften your spring rates accordingly ?
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
The springs, dampers tuning is all done after the modifications are completed, if you make an upgrade and change the balance of the car then the tuning will need to be done again. The boundaries as you mention doesn't matter as your calculating the weight ratio of the entire vehicle , by doing this your centering the mass of the car so its balanced when cornering. Its like having your Real car corner weighted and set up. I Hope this helps 😎👍
@MichaelWinesburg
@MichaelWinesburg 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou
@davewright9792
@davewright9792 Жыл бұрын
Great video and I learnt a lot thank you. I’ve been having a problem with they’re temps versus psi so on a couple of cars. Let’s say the new Brabham RWD I can’t get any heat in the front tyres. They are constantly blue and at kin PsI which can’t be right. Should I ignore the colour and be more concerned about hit 32-34psi at track temp? Same goes for another car where I can’t seem to cool them down. In your video I got the impression to ignore the colour of the temp in the telemetry as long as psi is right and the temp is even throughout. Is that right. Thank you
@tauraspasmonnom8325
@tauraspasmonnom8325 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the rear/front balance is messed up, when u put it to the rear u put more brakes into the front. Saw it on big forza channel players.
@JohnHutton532231
@JohnHutton532231 2 жыл бұрын
Your maths is off on bump stiffness and rebound. I do a similar calculation myself, but you should calculate bump stiffness without the +1, which you then add afterwards. That is 19 x 0.52 = 9.88 (+1 = 9.9); 9.88 x 0.55 = 5.434. If you add 1 to the last figure, you get 5.5 (bump). Ditto the rear: 19 x 0.48 = 9.12 (+1 = 10.1); 9.12 x 0.55 = 5.016, which gives you an overall figure of 6.0. I used to make the same error myself, and I've seen HokiHoshi do the same. However, the discrepancy is too slight to make a significant difference (I've noticed any great difference in handling), and I'm quite interested in trying your method of tuning.
@johnhart5056
@johnhart5056 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much! I needed this. Such a detailed comprehensive explanation. I have never played Forza Horizon before 5, and this made me understand tuning vehicles SO WELL! I was wondering if you also have a system for dirt cars? Or if this system works for them as well?
@1990rexyB18A1
@1990rexyB18A1 2 жыл бұрын
About to grab some breakfast first then coming home to have a sit nice down. Today is the day I will get some decent driving in. Good look out on the video. I'll be right here ready for the next drop.
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in fella 😎👍
@paulsimpson1214
@paulsimpson1214 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. I am having trouble dialing out mid and exit oversteer on the 1992 Bugatti EB 110. This is for this week's super sport challenge. I am using stock engine and all upgrades with semi slicks. Any ideas or can you share a tune so I can see the settings? Cheers
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Im yet to actually build a Buggati in FH5 , I've been focusing on Everyday cars etc. I would suggest losing your rear Springs , dampers, rebound and then turning up your front Damping and rebound. I would also advice Slicks 👍
@paulsimpson1214
@paulsimpson1214 2 жыл бұрын
@@wheelspintv6864 thanks, tried slicks, even worse. Will try your other suggestions. Actually won easily in an upgraded Nova super sport.😀
@christianbrunn5160
@christianbrunn5160 6 ай бұрын
How would you fix a car that looses grip and control in the back two tires in the first gear when getting off the line or accelerating from one gear to second and so on
@davej1903
@davej1903 5 ай бұрын
How did you get that display up that shows tire temperature please? I’m using the Xbox.
@cartorius
@cartorius Жыл бұрын
if your tires are in 28 psi or lower your car grips like crazy... it's so broken.
@mariostinson-maas2569
@mariostinson-maas2569 2 жыл бұрын
@WheelSpinTV I'm sure this is just me being dumb but when I turn my AWD '97 skyline it turns at first, but then the front tires lose traction I think because it turns back the other direction and there are skid marks. So like if I try to turn left it starts to turn left and then swings back to the right a little bit. Is there something I should be doing?
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Best way to test what's going on is on a Roundabout in this case. Do the wheels turn back without steering ? Or is the front pushing wide ? I would loosen off the front springs , damping rebound , anti roll bars and see if that helps.
@blakesmith2459
@blakesmith2459 Жыл бұрын
How did you get two different numbers for front and rear what did I miss here
@AmeerSofean
@AmeerSofean 2 жыл бұрын
where can i get that weight ratio?
@pressyman10
@pressyman10 2 жыл бұрын
Just a quick question I have a couple cars tune When I use my controller with those cars I can get a good leaderboard time times. But when I use my wheel those cars seem to lose control easier than when I use my controller is it my tune or is it the settings on my wheel that’s the problem.?
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Great question, when using a wheel you will feel exactly what the car is doing. With a controller it's max left and right etc when turning and no actual feel so you can be alot more aggressive with your adjustments , when tuning for your wheel use cars you have to be alot more realistic and precise with what your adjusting. Suspension and anti roll bar tuning make a big difference to under steer and initial turn in when on the wheel as this can be felt through the force feedback. I find my wheel settings that I'm happy with then leave them and tune each individual car. I personally don't use a controller anymore 👍
@Explixit
@Explixit 2 жыл бұрын
What total wheel rotation do you use?
@gr4mas144
@gr4mas144 2 жыл бұрын
What does differential settings? I like make own builds (I love fwd) but for tests I download few fwd builds and ppl use rally suspension with rally differential what is difference between this two?
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
I beleave its the stock settings that differ. I use Race diffs for my grip cars. I shall have a dabble with Rally and see if I can find any difference with them. I have built a Off road car and used a rally diff and found the standard settings were different. I find with some FWD cars the standard diff is best untill about 300+ bhp. Ive recently spent alot more time building A800 FWD cars for touge bracket style racing on the mountain and have learnt alot more about FWD cars in the process. The 106 Rally , Mk1 Civic and Mk1 Golf GTI are my favourites so far.
@rkctdiecast3317
@rkctdiecast3317 Жыл бұрын
So question with your formula... max - min x weight ratio + min ... doesnt the -min amd the +min cancel themselves out?? So that would just be nonsense so basically just max x weight ratio.....
@Malice0505
@Malice0505 2 жыл бұрын
How does this change for cross-country or dirt racing?
@calabamian
@calabamian 5 ай бұрын
Please tell me you’ve done a telemetry video
@christopherflores4658
@christopherflores4658 2 жыл бұрын
How can I find the weight ratio for my car? please help
@MrShadowofthewind
@MrShadowofthewind 2 жыл бұрын
Do you use traction control ? I usually don't use it but tried it today against the AI, and made my car much more predicable, i did have to adjust the tune because it gave a bit of understeer.
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Hi and thanks for tuning in, No I don't use any aids it's part of the fun for me 😎👍 it is easier with TCS don't get me wrong 👊
@MrShadowofthewind
@MrShadowofthewind 2 жыл бұрын
@@wheelspintv6864 Yea same here, but since they changed the AI you need all the tools in your toolbox to win, a high powered RWD street car without TCR will give too much spin at the start, atleast if you're racing against unbeatable, you allready lost.
@Wokeupindesigner
@Wokeupindesigner 2 жыл бұрын
Please drop drift tune vid 🙏🏽
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
100% will be coming , sos I've been out the game for a few days I've been layed up in bed with Covid. I'm about to do a How to Drift video then a How to Drift tune video will be coming shortly. I'll try and get the pair done this week now I'm off work 😎👍
@Idontknow69584
@Idontknow69584 Жыл бұрын
@@wheelspintv6864 hey bro, I hope everything is aight with you and that. But where have you been? We miss you
@Joy-be3qe
@Joy-be3qe Жыл бұрын
Does this tune work in rally cars?
@mk5_FSI
@mk5_FSI 2 жыл бұрын
I did basically evrything you said in this video but I coudlnt get it to stop spinning in first gear all the way through 4 and it it’s only cornering
@mk5_FSI
@mk5_FSI 2 жыл бұрын
Never mind I switched it to AWD and it just worked
@Cumshot-millionare
@Cumshot-millionare Жыл бұрын
Where do you find your weight ratio?
@king71442
@king71442 4 ай бұрын
"front pushing wide" what do you mean by that?
@luismorejon3056
@luismorejon3056 2 жыл бұрын
My car keeps under steering after doing all the math, how do I go about fixing that issue and redoing the math over?
@Chosen-_-
@Chosen-_- 2 жыл бұрын
I didnt understand the calculate wight ratio thing and how to calculate it please help
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in 😎 👊 Once you have done the process a couple of times it really is easy , it takes me around 3 minutes a car. It probably sounds harder then it is. The formula is Max - Min x Weight Ratio + Min , you use this on Springs , dampers , rebound and anti roll bars. When multiplying your weight ratio use this , if your car is 56% front then you would multiply by 0.56 for the front and 0.44 for the back. Obviously Max is the highest number on that setting and minimum the least,. The camber etc is set up from telementry but i usually run 1.4 front 1.0 on the rear and go from there. Caster at 5.5/6 on Grip cars and usually drop the tire pressure 2psi front and back. That will give you a good base tune to work from.
@claSlayer
@claSlayer 2 жыл бұрын
HI, i found your video really helpful, currently i'm trying to learning to drift with wheel following your advices, and i'm starting to show improvements, so thank you,really. I've got a stupid question. On this older video of yours kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGfVenuwp9WCnM0 at 32:00 how can you downshift that fast? i can heel and toe and match rev but that was really quick and precise. i mean, probably i coud do it that fast but not with that precision
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks , its great knowing I've helped 😎👍 it's just practice and repetition, I find myself doing it in my Van , car and on computer 🤣
@claSlayer
@claSlayer 2 жыл бұрын
@@wheelspintv6864 Me too. i think i've start doing it while playing dirt rally at least five years ago. at the time i was working for a delivery company so i was driving 6 to 8 hours at day so i've got a lot of time to practice. i don't know maybe it's the different feels between real pedals and sim pedals, plus the fact that i recently switch from a g27 to a t300 and i''m still trying to get the right feel of the brake with the mod. Anyway those dowshifts sounded really good XD
@TinManSimRacing
@TinManSimRacing Жыл бұрын
Can you share your tune with a share code. Need your channel badly as I use a tune app which does make them very drivable but still have to dial it in
@NightFox358
@NightFox358 2 жыл бұрын
Im building a 16 A Class Type R and my result from the equation is bigger than the max. I dont know if it's because FWD or I'm as bright as a tire. My front is 65%
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
That would have been worked out wrong but don't worry we all do it 🤣. Remember Max minutes minimum x 0.65 for front then add Minimum back on 👍 , ps its 0.35 for the rear.
@NightFox358
@NightFox358 2 жыл бұрын
@@wheelspintv6864 So I wasn't doing the equation in the right steps. I would do (Max - min) then continue the equation instead of hitting equals. It was causing some funk, I'm now building a Vauxhall Lotus Carlton
@pasteghost428
@pasteghost428 Жыл бұрын
🎤 3+1 is 4 quick maffs 🎤
@karmabad6287
@karmabad6287 5 ай бұрын
12:20 bookmark
@Mrnoone23
@Mrnoone23 7 ай бұрын
Where is this guide for gearing?
@mikipompon2024
@mikipompon2024 Жыл бұрын
where can i find the weight ratio of my car
@NorcalChef209
@NorcalChef209 Жыл бұрын
When you add new brakes turbos etc on your motor in the little box on the left side..press y and it'll bring up the horsepower and its below that
@mikipompon2024
@mikipompon2024 Жыл бұрын
@@NorcalChef209 thats the weight not the weight ratio
@relaxitsgood6713
@relaxitsgood6713 2 жыл бұрын
hello bro i need help
@finjavogt
@finjavogt 2 жыл бұрын
hey there, i just bought the TM T248, I put all ur appreciated settings u mentioned in the past (kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5m4ioyJg9hgn80&ab_channel=WheelSpinTV). Now I gotta do the car tuning but it rly looks complicated 2 me. The fun of wheel driving with FH5 is like zero atm. In addition I do not understand every part in this video (I am german). Is there a way to get ur tuning-settings in a shorter way? I saw, there is a possibility for setting the tuning from other players ingame. Can I find u here somehow? Or do u have a short list/overview that I can see how to tune my car? I even dont have the Nissan 3702 yet and Idk what to do now.. Btw: Ty so much for the videos! Really great work!!
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in 😎 👊 Once you have done the process a couple of times it really is easy , it takes me around 3 minutes a car. It probably sounds harder then it is. The formula is Max - Min x Weight Ratio + Min , you use this on Springs , dampers , rebound and anti roll bars. When multiplying your weight ratio use this , if your car is 56% front then you would multiply by 0.56 for the front and 0.44 for the back. The camber etc is set up from telementry but i usually run 1.4 front 1.0 on the rear and go from there. Caster at 5.5/6 on Grip cars and usually drop the tire pressure 2psi front and back. That will give you a good base tune to work from. Keep at the wheel I promise it will become easier with time 😎
@Vulpi77
@Vulpi77 2 жыл бұрын
Game is not respect reality driving Is just basics
@Pendragon69608
@Pendragon69608 Жыл бұрын
The naught is very confusing me
@user-le5nw9qz5n
@user-le5nw9qz5n Жыл бұрын
Ну вообще-то сначала производится умножение💀
@pizzaking2594
@pizzaking2594 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic coming from a person named wheel spin
@animeboy93
@animeboy93 Жыл бұрын
Your formula is written incorrectly buddy. The real way your formula should be written is (Max - Min) × Weight Ratio + Min. Don't forget the order of operations my man. I suggest an annotation. Other than that good job.
@mikefranklin70
@mikefranklin70 2 жыл бұрын
49 point free?
@yylurt
@yylurt Ай бұрын
WHAT TF IS A WEIGHT RATIO
@Vulpi77
@Vulpi77 2 жыл бұрын
No work is just like middle tune In 4 meybe
@TheNefariousFox
@TheNefariousFox 5 ай бұрын
The real bummer for the wheel is all those gawddamn events that don't allow setups... They absolutely SUCK to play with a wheel and pedal set. And after a few hours of doing this method, and putting together a reasonable lineup of usable cars, having to fight those garbage setups in the events is brutal. I'm on a G27, 3 way set of knockoff Heuskinvelds (SimJack), -And yes, they kickass for the price! Fanatec Clubsport H-pattern shifter. [Yes, I know, my wheel is old AF] -But the Fk'er won't quit Oh, yeah, and this system is legit. (Now if I could only learn how to drift properly... Rally flicks ain't gonna cut it here)
@Vulpi77
@Vulpi77 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing help you is give you some ideea. belive me you are not quicker and or cars turning better
@wheelspintv6864
@wheelspintv6864 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure of this was translated , if so if it was translated correctly but the tuning certainly works a treat 👍
@TheManic.5-OH
@TheManic.5-OH 11 ай бұрын
Why do we have to say 'naught' why can't you just day f*cking ZERO!!!??? 😂😂😂
@donroxitheoverthinker
@donroxitheoverthinker Жыл бұрын
very nice video. totally understandable. ill watch it again when tunning. maybe u got tunes in forza 5 to download ?
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