GET RID OF THE 212? | Fouad Abiad, Iain Valliere, Mike Van Wyck & Guy Cisternino | Bro Chat

[@FouadAbiad]

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[@cccmmm13]

Mike has to be a regular I’m pumped! Dude is hilarious

[@Noughtnowknoteva]

Ready and willing anytime they want me on

[@thomasmadlon8515]

Love having big Mike on the podcast

[@kevbeaudry276]

Big Mike for Prime Minister.

[@Noughtnowknoteva]

Appreciate u guys

[@willthomas7666]

For prime minister LOL

[@swolluminatiofficial]

Fouad single handedly ruining productivity for 8-5ers at least twice a week lately lol

[@daviscampbell6722]

U can't be productive and listen to a podcast?

[@savagelentegas5615]

I actually get excited and work better listening to fouads podcast 👌🏽

[@swolluminatiofficial]

@davis campbell nah cause you know damn well Fouad is gonna pull up Google and then you gotta watch too 😂

[@daviscampbell6722]

@@swolluminatiofficial I'll give u that 😂

[@mahbub87hussain]

@@daviscampbell6722 not when they start arguing 🍿 I get too invested 😂

[@StMiles]

It’s cool hearing Mikes laugh in the background of every joke. Like you can always count on Mike to laugh at everything

[@Kalebsweeten]

The Mike and iain dynamic is so funny man. Soon enough this’ll be a Canadian only podcast 😂

[@Madchris8828]

They could call it the "eh chat" for only Canadians

[@legend2kill]

Tren timbits

[@LeeJoRo]

Poutine cast

[@xenon8657]

Maple cast 🍁🍁🍁

[@ROGUESILVER]

Handgun less podcast

[@ryankproductions7943]

I have to agree, Mike being on twice now has been a nice addition, well spoken lots of knowledge!!

[@seanmckeown2214]

Mike is an awesome addition to the podcast.... really down to earth guy.

[@Goberserk999]

1:31:40 Fouads face killed me here. You can tell those headphones + Guys screaming had Fouads ears in pain 😂

[@ptroberto]

Love seeing the guys argue and then realizing that they agree overall just to keep arguing about the same things only realizing that they agree again, lol! You guys crack me up! Mike just sitting there with a smile on his face while the rest are getting heated. Maan, this podcast is pure gold and it’s so cool that Mike has become a part of the podcast.

[@oglanza4451]

Mike & Jose have been two great new additions

[@martindavis6472]

Mike's humility about falling is great. I'm 265 and I slipped on a concrete beam I've got on the edge of my pond. Landed half in the water- knee ribs and serratus to the concrete. Blammmo! Occasional reminders of humanity can be good for the soul, but all my compound movements say otherwise...

[@benthorn6827]

Literally just finished the last podcast and now onto the next, i enjoy every one!!!

[@scottpemberton6502]

This is the crew I was looking for. Fouad you’re killin it man! 🔥

[@vaughane.560]

My pro career was short (2 years). Most memorable was my first Olympia (202 Class) and the first 2 shows I did, which I won. Next memorable would be when I was prepping for the NY Pro and chilling with Guy and Jon Delarosa during weekly check ins with Fak. That was the first time I really “felt” like I was a real pro, doing real pro stuff. I remember having fun back stage with some of the guys at the NY and Toronto Pro (Seth Feroce is a FUNNY BASTARD!). I remember being afraid of botching my posing routine, I remember a long conversation with Jose Raymond at the O while we both did cardio. But generally, it was all a blur. I can definitely relate with Mike on this one.

[@vaughane.560]

@@Venom1two3 Yessir. Now I am a fan and a gym rat. This podcast helps keeps the fires burning. These guys really have done a great service to this thing of ours we call bodybuilding.

[@Agony_fitness]

how come your career only lasted 2 years ?? if you dont mind me asking that is

[@vaughane.560]

@@Agony_fitness My career in bodybuilding was actually a hobby that became a Cinderella story. I just decided that pursuing bodybuilding was too much of a risk to my health and to my law enforcement career. To this day, I still train and coach other competitors (mostly others in law enforcement who wanna compete but not go down a certain path in order to do so), but I chose to stop competing because I couldn’t/wouldn’t do all of the things it took be competitive . Too much to lose.

[@SSSS-bu9dl]

This combo, fouad, mike, ian. Guy. I’m dead! Was on the floor laughing non stop. Wanna see more of the four of you on the podcast together.

[@timhighsmith8474]

I like how Fouad asked if Mike drinks an hour in after they talked about drinking in the beginning😂

[@alvinpotthoff1208]

Mike has become my favorite on these podcasts. I never followed him before but after watching a few with the rest of Bro Chat, I jumped on watching him and it is crazy how much he knows about movements and exercises. Crazy how I didn't know about him prior, but glad his part of the group now... keep it going Fouad, the new crew coming in are great.

[@tylerjohnsonifbb]

Ego is the reason we miss moments of our lives. I missed my amateur career because of the pressure, always in my head, focused on “the next” - never present. To experience anything it requires presence - state of consciousness Vs state of unconsciousness when we’re in our head stressing or always looking forward. Gotta stop to smell the roses

[@alexandrudumitru2435]

When i needed the podcast the most Fouad knows! Going through some tough times and the podcast helps a bunch making me relax and get rid of the stress while i'm at work or at home after the gym

[@tomcorr2332]

Love that Mike's on the podcast, I think he's on speaker view cause the screen flashes on his face everytime someone else talks lol. Gallery view man.

[@Blake2703]

I love Guy ❤ He acts like such an innocent kid sometimes , gets angry during debates ! But he’s genuinely a sweetheart and that reflects from his face ❤

[@haroldbrian310]

Alright Mike is back, thank you uncle fouad and bc crew, please stay safe and always share the love brothers 🙏🇵🇭❤️

[@illvizionz]

I love listening to you guys argue or debate. Guy and Iain got so heated this one but i know its all love at the end of the day. Thanks for not cutting it lol

[@justins8195]

When did that happen? I can’t find it

[@georgewhyte6110]

Fouad - give yourself a pat on the back. You are the glue that holds all these awesome people together.

[@JoshCullenBodyBuilding]

Guy yelling is single-handedly the best thing ever 😂

[@alejandroloera8861]

I like Mike, he is humble and seems he gets along with the guys. Really hope he keeps on coming to the show!

[@bensmith9670]

Can’t beat a bit of mike !!! Brilliant addition. Thanks again

[@rawhonesttruth554]

I understand Ian and respect the shit out of him for being real. No handouts, this is life it ain’t fair, keep fucking working.

[@rishipandey4804]

The highlight here is Fouad getting better at Excel every time :D

[@jessiesisto2038]

Love having Mike on but really liked the other dynamic with Paul and Jose u and Mike all laughed and understood each other to a T

[@isaacjordan7031]

Saw Big Mike in the thumbnail and automatically thought "YESSSSSS"

[@heavyduty6697]

The singer 😂😂😂 OMG THE SINGER!!!!! Funniest moment so far

[@justa1l]

Love that you're having Big Mike on!

[@Codywinser]

lmao! “That was the sound Mike made when he fell out of his truck.”

[@mturley8414]

Kick ass podcast again boys… Best in the business BY FAR!!!!!!

[@grister16]

Mike and Iain saying like and right. Being Canadian I get it haha. Thanks for the information and entertainment 💪🏽

[@willthomas7666]

It’s cool seeing big mike on the podcast, he’s a smart dude

[@jonpetrichenko9416]

There just isn't a better podcast than this one. Fouad, you do a great job. Don't believe what topics you come up with, but your crew is great.

[@tidalbound]

Fouad’s arguments are always so frustrating. He takes twenty minutes to understand what the other side is saying, eventually comes around, and restates their argument like it was his all along. 1:43:42

[@J5858Jack]

I’m a cop. I have an absolutely terrible memory. It’s partly due to the fact that I try not to remember half the shit I deal with. It’s also partly due to the fact that I’m always worried about the next thing/next call the next training session. I feel like people who are goal-oriented and productivity driven, focus more on the future rather than the past So in terms of memory, it’s just discarded at times and the finer details of the more mediocre happenings

[@Herculean.Aficionado]

I absolutely agree with Iain on this one. Stop filling the pro ranks with low quality bodybuilders. The best way of doing that, is making the amataur ranks more competitive to make being a pro harder and also while being a pro. If the loser bodybuilders want to give up, let them give up. In order to have winners, you need losers: otherwise the game isn't good anymore.

[@nashwheeler]

A f*ckin sea lion up there😂 - Big Mike 2023

[@Daphnevanburen]

GET RID OF THE 212? there goes Guy´s legacy

[@Think_Carefully_Please]

CBUM winning the Open Olympia this year was a bold an amazing statement by Fouad. Need to hear a debate about this.

[@markdenicolas2005]

Can you get Mike on again and ask him some detail questions about Antoine vaillant how they met? Work/train together? Antoine personality? Work ethic? How Antoine background might help him now? Recovery from both bicep tears? Training for Olympia? AAS/ supplement use? Thanks fouad you guys are the best!

[@jasonbaker6842]

Big Mike is such a great addition to the show

[@Noughtnowknoteva]

Thanks

[@shehryarmalik5704]

Mike x Iain x Fouad x Paul EH Chat

[@joaredge]

Big Mike giving trailer park boys references! Love it hehe

[@suprempuk]

Funny how in certain areas Guy and Fouad argue against catering to everybody, but when discussing bodybuilding everyone (short guys) should have their own little place to compete.

[@robbiewalker8403]

Right wingers with inconsistent ideological takes?.....surelyyyyy not?!? I love the guys but I've been commenting on their blind spots for a while now. Kinda sad how there isn't really a space for people on the left in bodybuilding.

[@eringarrison3134]

I agree with Iain on this one, I loved seeing Guy get all fired up. You guys have the best podcast, makes the day better! Thanks boys

[@Sheldon1228]

It feels like my world is coming together all at once. Trailer park boys is the funniest show ever

[@dakotasenger4163]

My dog started howling to those whale noises 😂😂😂

[@317MaseX]

Middle linebackers are not no 5’8 😂

[@Morgangodfrey]

Mike is such a great guy. Love seeing him back!

[@Noughtnowknoteva]

Appreciate that

[@jameschasmar3220]

I’ve literally watched the singer 100x on replay and have cried laughing every time. Pls Fouad play random funny clips more often

[@willseal582]

I agree 100% with Iain, because if not, than Clarida isn’t big enough sorry, and he must finish dead last…. But quality isn’t mass only, and body building and 212 have the same purpose on that

[@davefraser1818]

“They are barely breaking in, Guy” Lost it. 😂

[@JokerandDr.Q]

Mike is such a great addition!

[@blinkxtreme]

I’m going to hell for laughing at a specific portion of this podcast

[@theodorethomas8418]

If bodybuilding is judged properly size doesn't matter. Shawn is a perfect example of this. His muscle matches his frame. So a bigger guy who's taller should be judged against him based on overall look on his frame. Taking it to a size game makes the sport more dangerous

[@Обзорыинтересныхпрограмм]

On the other hand taller guys with bigger frames have much harder time filling it out, so it usually takes a lot more time. For example 2 tallest competitors in Olympia, Samson and Andrew are well over 35. While a guy like Derek is 29. I think bigger when other things are equal is better in bodybuilding. You also have to consider that size differences are a lot more jarring in real life than in social media pictures.

[@ruebenfielder6828]

If you played a drinking game, where you took a shot everytime Iain interrupted Fouad, you’d be obliterated in the hospital getting your tummy pumped

[@therealjc1210]

Mike was the only one who didn't try to shout over the others when arguing.

[@zackerman618]

when guy says " he was 5-7-5'8, he was tall"

[@Chodestick]

Absolutely love this podcast, great as usual

[@christopherfinley4579]

I’m getting behind on these podcasts, but am I the only person who argues along like these guys can hear me?

[@Riddzey]

We need an all Canada episode. Mike, Iain, Paul.

[@gzuz1118]

I love that Mike experienced his first heated debate 😂

[@dakotahartman684]

I think the reason all these other classes were made is so the promoters and leaders of ifbb to make more money it was not for the competitors

[@BroderickBrodie21]

I think loser for the Arnold classic predictions should get a head tattoo like Mike. Ha, ha, ha ha, thank you for today’s podcast. Love you all.

[@zachreynolds1054]

We need a mike and fouad podcast

[@MajSage93]

In reference to the 212 argument, I’m pretty sure there is an interview out there somewhere from a few years ago in which Chris Bumstead states that if the Classic category wasn’t created, he would never have competed in open so would have never pursued bodybuilding.

[@alvinpotthoff1208]

I used a log book (aka my cell phone) in the beginning to show what I was pushing my self on and where I was improving. After about 1-2 years, I dropped it and go with feel of the weight and exhaustion of the muscle

[@michaeldevore1003]

Mike and Iain?! 🙏🏼Killin it Fouad

[@JoshuaJones-ql6go]

Please upload to Spotify! Only platform I listen too in the car

[@pogmalog]

For a man with no kids, it was funny seeing Fouad go into full dad mode when Iain and Guy started arguing over the classes.

[@TheFBerger]

Iian is right on the 212 stuff. Sorry guys. There is genetic superiority in sports. There is a reason why most other sports have a very detailed teir system. Basic ex: high school

[@joshlindsey7067]

Brother you guys make me laugh hardcore! I look forward to these podcasts every week. Fucking hilarious!

[@ajdiaz5525]

WE SEE VANWYCK WE VANCLICK

[@jacalexandernewbury6153]

Would love to see a solo podcast of Fouad and Iain debating all sorts of topics 🤣

[@javohnmorrill2064]

RBP is the best thing I’ve came across.

[@michaelfausto3621]

Great show, I really enjoy watching. Congrats 👊👊👊👊

[@Liftsbysid]

32:50 guys u will have the best laugh of your life 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Brose_Canseco]

I think I pulled a muscle at work trying not to laugh

[@Joe_Garziano]

Love the 212 debate Good podcast fouad!

[@OfficialMakLuminous]

Keep bringing mike on the podcast.

[@CVisions]

Guy went from 0-100 so quick 😂😂love it

[@nicogrunfelder9099]

32:45 that is just fucking brutal 😂 Who ever decided to book them for that show is going to hell 🤣🤣

[@Redemption203]

Fouads face when zane watson is mentioned lool

[@garisons9562]

Drinking game : every time someone says 'like'. I'm on my 3d bottle halfway through the podcast

[@alexattardg4s975]

There is no reason to eliminate the 212. Let it there for people who want to compete in it and whenever one feels ready to go for the Open he will do so.

[@ReeBPM]

Enjoyed the discussion on 212. But saying those guys need to get to 250 to be competitive isn't true either. Shaun isn't 250 and he will be extremely competitive. He just needed time from turning pro to get competitive, but that's true of most open guys getting competitive too. What weight did Shaun turn pro at and what is he at now. Is that that much bigger of a % increase than what Iain has had to achieve to be competitive? And if shows are stopping hosting 212 classes because they aren't generating interest, then doesn't that invalidate the business argument too?

[@BryanHill_BigDog]

Seeing this lineup on Bro chat, Fouad has set himself to win a show because neither Iain nor Guy have an alliance mate on here and Fouad has Mike this show!

[@FractalRealm]

Ian is right. 212 should go away and just leave open. I feel classic and men’s physique are different and should stay separate.

[@iancampbell2295]

Iain's totally right. In the 80' 90's there was one pro a year , why? Because only one deserved it! Then only the best compete , half the lineup in this years O was a waste of time!

[@Dejwik]

Mike is like an uncle everyone is scared to f with 😅

[@christiantrevino5739]

The arguments always add a dynamic other podcasts lack! Love hate relationships for everyone! That’s real entertainment 😂

[@johnelgandy]

The biggest question for 212 division right now is who is even gonna be there? Shaun and Angel Calderon are both 40 years old at the end of their career and Kamal is 52… most of the guys in 212 are going to Open at some point, like Derek Lundsford. I understand if you’re a competitor who’s under 5’5” and it’s hard to go against bigger taller guys so that’s why the division is there, but who’s gonna be there and show up? Who’s going to be the next reigning champion for a long time like Flex Lewis? That’s just my two cents on the 212 division

[@ernestorodriguez5628]

Very good debate guys!!!! All your hard core arguments are because both sides are right.... One side sees a 6 and the other side sees a 9 both are right.... . Love GUY'S intensity always Fouad glad you always defend and stand up for the lower guys creating justice and prudence so cool on your part

[@avaz9611]

Every podcast: 'so we are in agreement...again...'

[@BENCHIPED]

The answer to bodybuilding isn't eliminating the 212. Imop I think the IFBB should have the NPC weight divisions as pros and let each class do an overall for the title/money of the show. Doing that would have many more pros be able to compete in a weight class that they belong in. And it would be much safer health wise. You'd still get the monsters in the super heavies and those freaks can get as big as they want. But instead of all those weight classes have say a middle weight up to not 178 but 185 pounds. Have a Light heavy not up to 198 but 210. Heavy weight not up to 225 but 240. Then have anything over 240 as super-heavy. 4 divisions. Ifbb would bring in more money, there be more pros that can actually compete and it would be healthier because people would stay in a certain divisions and still possibly be able to win the overall to win the show. And the Olympia and the Arnold, no weight divisions. You have to the overall of a show to qualify for the no division Olympia.