15 Never-Built Commercial Planes we nearly got

[@toddkes5890]

Chapters: 0:29 - Hawker-Siddeley HS141 (VTOL passenger jet) 1:10 - Lockheed L-500 (triple-decker cargo plane) 2:31 - Boeing 747X (Boeing's large cargo/passenger plane) 3:48 - McDonnell-Douglas MD-12 (their version of a jumbo jet) 4:43 - Lockheed-Martin Very Large Transport (really big cargo plane in a second video) 5:20 - Aerocon Dash 1.6 Wingship (big Ekranoplane) 6:03 - Boeing Sonic Cruiser (almost supersonic transport) 6:42 - Sukhoi KR-860 (large passenger plane with folding wings) 7:22 - FMA IA 36 Condor (engines inside the main hull) 8:16 - Saab 1073 (baby widebody plane) 9:00 - Dornier 728 (50-100 passenger plane) 9:34 - Plane train (plane propulsion while riding on or hanging from rails) 10:03 - Boeing 7J7 (propfan planes, efficient but loud) 10:53 - Tupolev Tu-404 (It's big. Not not that big, bigger. Bigger than that!)

[@FoundAndExplained]

legend

[@nohatebeclever2188]

@@FoundAndExplained Author,can u make if it’s possible video about Antonov An-218,nearly build plane

[@memyself4616]

Thank you!

[@Ll-mw9sy]

@@nohatebeclever2188 +

[@UA232DennyFitch]

Bro really copied the description 💀💀

[@wormyboot]

Every time a cool idea dies because it was too loud, I yell "THEN MAKE IT A CARGO PLANE!"

[@KnightRanger38]

Often the biggest issue is not the noise inside the plane - but the noise outside it.

[@rolflandale2565]

Bombers had fantastic movie thriller debunk safety features. They were intended far more critical handling supply, so they are great for classic revive & approval, EVs & passengers services. With new ⛽ & 🔋mods.

[@Reason077]

Cargo planes still often need to fly into regular city airports, and many are very sensitive about noise. So the same noise regulations apply.

[@markfox1545]

Really? Wow, that must be mildly embarrassing if you're in a supermarket or a meeting at work or at a funeral. I'm sorry you have this affliction.

[@RadioMan2023]

@@markfox1545 Lmao

[@SomeOrdinaryJanitor]

the Boeing 2707 is the only never built passenger aircraft i wish was completed, even if only for a museum.

[@nenuu91iscool]

it's a really beautiful aircraft

[@vf-31tomcatters]

Theres a mock up in some storage somewhere and if a museum acquired it, we had something similar tonthat

[@Darakusillygoober]

It was too ahead of its time

[@johnjmcknightiii2964]

Just the front section of the 2707-300 exits sadly the remaining sections of the mockup deteriorated

[@AerospaceMatt]

A bit late to the party. I lived not very away from the current residence of the 2707-300 mock-up. The first 100 feet is all that remains (droop snoot included). It’s at the Boeing Museum Of Flight restoration center at the Everett plant. Side note, anyone know what happened to the 2707-100 mock-up? Oh yes, until 1968, Boeing’s original SST design included Variable Geometry Swing Wings. The best part? THEY BUILT A MOCK-UP! That’s right, Boeing built 2 SSTs. Unfortunately the sweep wing mechanism was deemed too heavy and complicated so Boeing went with the -300 design with a Concorde wing and small empennage (although -300 was larger than Concorde and Tu-144). Actually Boeing sold tickets to come and see the mock-up at the hangar in Seattle. Unfortunately it’s likely that the Variable Sweep SST was unceremoniously disassembled after the -300 was selected as the final design. The Lockheed L-2000 entry was burned in an airport firefighter training exercise. Perhaps something similar happened to the Boeing, but I can’t find any info on that. The -300 mock-up only had the left wing as it was built along a wall and after the 1971 cancellation was sold to a private collector who built a museum around the plane. From there it became a church as the museum went bankrupt and was sold plane and all. After a few years of being a pillar of the congregation the plane was disassembled and moved to a swampy scrapyard. That’s where most of it rotted away. Then the forward section was recovered and moved to a museum before being re-acquired by Boeing in 2013. I saw SST in 2019.

[@Hammerhead547]

Fun Fact: The MD12 was actually featured as a purchasable aircraft in Toei Interactive's 1993 airline business simulation AeroBiz Supersonic.

[@SAUBER_KH7]

That's cool!

[@HC-cb4yp]

I LOVED that game. Is there a modern equivalent?

[@SAUBER_KH7]

@@HC-cb4yp not that I'm aware of. There are two games that are similar come to mind: The first one is sim airport. Although that one focuses on you building an airport in addition to hosting flights. Another one is transport fever 2. Although that one is more than just planes. You can pick a starting date anywhere between 1850 and 2000, though the earliest aircraft are available In 1920 onward. You can progress through the ages and unlock newer vehicles. Either one would be a good choice in my opinion.

[@revaholic]

Given the safety record of the DC-10 and MD-11 I don't know if I would have trusted that company to pack even more lives into their planes.

[@Hammerhead547]

@@revaholic From what I remember of the game (I haven't played it in 25 years) one of the trade offs of buying the MD12 was that it had a higher chance of crashing if you didn't lavish it with maintenance money.

[@poodlescone9700]

An ekranoplane for Trans Pacific or Trans Atlantic routes makes the most sense. It takes much less gas to fly tens of feet above the water.

[@bongodrumzz]

The Ekranoplane for the Trans Pacific route would have been perfect, especially as its speed would allow it to outrun potential weather issues, high wave fronts etc. Lagoons built at various way stations in the Pacific in Tonga, Samoa and the Cook Islands for example, as well as Hawaii and the Philippines would clearly have been a way to bring tourism and its benefits to an ever growing economy there too, what's not to like?

[@SethMethCS]

@@bongodrumzz and the plane can be designed to fly (albeit very inefficiently) in the event there’s a undetected cargo ship in the flight lane.

[@facuufernandezz5070]

the problem with that are the waves. that design only works for lakes or some rivers

[@rizkidary837]

@@facuufernandezz5070 or ocean with small wave height (example : Java sea)

[@ohhiitsmike]

Even taking into account the increased drag from the surface of the water due to surface tension? Either the craft would be slower or would need larger engines at least

[@amandanewport9483]

8:16 the baby widebody plane is so adorable, so I agree with you

[@kimboost9686]

its not fat

[@surprisedgordon7786]

It's big bone

[@diddon]

@@kimboost9686he never said that

[@TechGroupF430i]

Regarding the FMA IA 36 Condor, specifically at 7:42, I'm pretty sure there was no plan to have *anyone* sitting in that part of the plane. I mean beyond the rear doors (only accessible when the engines are off of course), it seems far more realistic that that part of the cabin would've been exclusively for luggage.

[@ecurtis5615]

Indeed! Also I don't see that heat would've been an issue, since the exhaust would have been directed out of the rear & away from the fuselage...

[@Cyberblox69]

4:26 MD-12 looks like an A380

[@robrepass2179]

For me I think the 747x and MD-12 deserved a spot in the Aviation industry

[@AKAaquaRBLX]

@SwissChannel673qea380 existed

[@keithad6485]

The Aerocon Dash featured in this vid, is clearly inspired by the Soviet 1960s era Ekranoplan or Caspian Sea Monster as it was nicknamed - Which was actually built and used by the Soviets.

[@stanleybuchan4610]

Only for use in the Caspian. It couldn't fly over oceans because of the large waves.

[@marhawkman303]

@@stanleybuchan4610 That was the basic flaw yea. the surface effect needs a FLAT surface. Hitting a wave at speed would be catastrophic.

[@Marylandbrony]

The 7J7 would make a perfect commuter plane beyond Japan actually. Think Washington D.C to New York or London to Paris.

[@MrCessna408]

0:17 this one looks 👌 BEAUTIFUL

[@Joannes808]

The Ahrens AR 404 and Baade 152 had always been my picks for abandoned airliner projects. Like the FMA IA 36, I just always loved seeing such unexpected things coming up from the left field nations.

[@martykarr7058]

The L-5100 isn't the only time they pitched a commercialized version of a military plane. The B-29, B-36, and YB-49 had civilian spinoffs, with the first two prototyped. And North American, as part of their pitch for the XB-70 offered an entry into the SST competition based on the Valkyrie.

[@Truex007]

dude, a civilian Valkyrie would have been SICK!

[@Mr_oof_blox]

8:09 Thank you for flying Ryanair, last year over 90% of our gear broken

[@jimsvideos7201]

The Tu-404 is interesting in its engineering but apart from maybe hauling liquid fuel it'd be hard to make effective use of it.

[@Shoorit]

Flying gulag

[@CaptKak1954]

I am so disgusted and offended that they betrayed my boy Saab 1073 😢

[@Ryuu1010YT]

too small, short range and problems that is what i was thinking

[@se-kmg355]

@@Ryuu1010YT Less than a decade later, SAAB developed the 340, that was smaller and had less range. According to wikipedia, they failed obtaining a development partner for the 1071 and 1073.

[@ronriesinger7755]

The MD-12 was physically the most attractive of this list.

[@sjejhejsjsRjdjdjdjdjd]

The md-12 is ugly asf what you on abt

[@SlabFor1]

@@sjejhejsjsRjdjdjdjdjd let him have an opinion, personally i agree with him

[@WyvernApalis]

*Shows TU-404 being a massive aircraft* Ace combat: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN

[@ljessecusterl]

Still smaller than the Aigaion.

[@CallsignAegis]

@@ljessecusterl YEYEYEYEYEYEYEYEYSS

[@FormulaOneLeclerc]

I just love the fact that the Lockheed was so big that the company literally just called it "Very Large"

[@CommanderV-Editz]

2:39 voice crack😮😮😮😮

[@shatter5593]

The Saab 1073 looks like one of those toy airplanes I would play with as a kid.

[@86hix]

Yes, please, do a video about the never-built commercial supersonic planes ! Your 3D planes always look great; can't wait to see the SST Lockeed !

[@rolflandale2565]

Yeah more 3D spec performance. Also, put them ALL in a contest with the Microsoft Simulator as the Ump!

[@rsookchand919]

I like to think there’s a alternate timeline where these were in service

[@chippyshake2502]

not the tu-404 in design 💀💀💀💀

[@jimsvideos7201]

BAe 146: Has four engines because six wouldn't fit. HS 141: Lol, noob.

[@Virgos_aviation201]

Member!?!?!?

[@iamghost_404]

Great vid as always Now we need the military version of this Never-Built series as well

[@TomCrippsTrains]

Sonic Cruiser honestly looks like something from my wildest dreams, such a stunning 'could have been'

[@merafirewing6591]

Pretty sad that the 747X and MD-12 and Lockheed's Very Large Transport never got the chance to take off.

[@Ryuu1010YT]

probably range, cost fuel, cost operation and other things. tbh these 3 planes has to be my favorite

[@airguy9387official]

MD-12 is literally the Walmart version of the A380

[@Ryuu1010YT]

except older and fuel efficient

[@jonathanriddle3465]

I would love to see a video just like this talking about the super sonic airliners we lost such as the Concorde.

[@FajarRizkiBachsinar]

I like both the 747X, MD 12, & the KR 860

[@stickynorth]

The HS141 I think is the most fascinating because VTOL aircraft are still some of the most difficult to design and operate and yet when they do offer the most versatile operations possible especially in nations like Canada where most people live in very dense increasingly mega-sized cities spread out across vast distances... And yes please make a second video focusing on just SST projects both Commercial and Private as both have had their dizzying share of concepts all unbuilt thus far...

[@syngabes]

dude i really dont know why the saab 1073 failed. it is so damn cute bro

[@Ryuu1010YT]

size were too small

[@kendallfleet]

The last one is like a kids idea of a “dream jet”

[@theorangeoof926]

Oh if only we had those planes flying around today…anyways great work.

[@balcy129YT]

Great Vid Keep it up watching from Australia

[@darrenwest9319]

There was a 767 double decker concept that never made it to production. That would make an interesting video. :)

[@FoundAndExplained]

Your right the 767x…

[@Abirdguy]

Wouldn’t that just be a A380? But with 2 engines

[@hungarianlad9734]

You guys should do one for fighters, that would be super interesting

[@nolesy34]

A fighter commercialised now that would be a sweet ny york to london

[@blackhawk69100]

A great collection. Super sonic version would be great

[@CarlosConsorcioCastellanoPerez]

The Lockheed VLT should have been built IMO.

[@SethMethCS]

IMO the FMA IA 36 Condor and SAAB 1073 have solid niches that could make a program successful if the designs were picked up by someone with the same determination as the Founder of Boom supersonic. The best part is being able to adapt existing tech instead of developing novel tech for the critical aircraft systems.

[@farhanatashiga3721]

Unfortunately people with those kinds of ambition and determination are more inclined to chase novel ideas such as supersonic travel than the simple regional jet transport.

[@georgehernandez4079]

I’m in love with the 747X!!

[@Ziplock23390]

5:04 squished a380 💀

[@Ryuu1010YT]

it looks thick

[@iwantmoneyplz]

true

[@colinboneham7387]

VC10 double decker got missed of the list imo, it would have been the only T Tail double decker ever.

[@eolay903]

The Boeing sonic cruiser should have been built, it sucks how we don’t have many interesting commercial airliners nowadays

[@roaling]

Bro that 404 is fricking massive how is that only 1000 passengers 1000 singapore first class passengers?

[@LeftistUprising]

0:05 - I want my planes to ALWAYS be the most boring thing ever.

[@AAa-if8zn]

Part: 8:19 This 747 planes was a incredible and cute than a baby C-17.

[@RandomBritshGuyAviation]

Please make a Part 2 this video was so amazing.

[@Idk_what_to_name_myself_bro]

8:12 Ryanair classic

[@Ryuu1010YT]

smooth landing take more second

[@stangundam01]

some of the planes that really should get another look are the lockeed very large transport, boeing super pelican, lockeed L-500 & aerocon

[@ChessMasterNate]

We need a video on possible future eVTOLs. There are apparently more than 100 startups, but most will probably never make anything. There are a number of interesting prototypes though. Probably a lot of work to make such an episode, as you have to make at least 4 CGI models.

[@repairman22]

Excellent video friend. I also make 3D videos on engines and cars but with solidworks, not with blender. I will have to start using it. Great video again!

[@dangerotterisrea]

A WIG commercial aircraft would be awesome

[@SomeOrdinaryJanitor]

i honestly think when it comes to civil aviation the Soviet Union is the REAL underdog in this story, no matter how outlandish, the aviation fiend in me cannot get enough of the Soviet designs.

[@MWSin1]

It was cancelled because of high cost, lack of market, and the design team eventually ran out of vodka.

[@nolesy34]

They should have operated him on the table cause he wasnt co - operating

[@serge7633]

Thanks for sharing mate. Keep up the good work. 👍

[@ITZTrudeau13]

I think it was better for Lockheed to address the L-500 project.

[@carsonleutheuser8818]

some of these would have been dope

[@HrCh-o9n]

Do the Antonov 2000, Concorde, Boeing 777, and Airbus 350

[@kaigraingerrr4124]

Imagine sitting in the lower part in the plane in the front of Boeing 747X that will be an nightmare

[@ChristoAbrie]

Gotta say, that Lockheed VLT looks insane

[@hawkmoon419]

Thanks for the cool video. Could have mentioned the Convair 37 which was the proposed airliner version of XC-99 transport. Would definitely like a video about SSTs that were never built.

[@pepitolevrai2255]

More of this with cargo plane pls

[@leezinke4351]

Boeing sonic cruiser look very gorgeous!

[@mauretaniafan1133]

why do i love the look of double-decker planes so much?

[@ACNordstrom]

An acronoplane passenger jet would be cool

[@LucasVillarreal-k3l]

The Lockheed is Lego plane

[@sigurdurmarolafsson4183]

The thought of a tail strike on the Condor is super scary.

[@Chimpunk729]

Great video...su kr860 is my favorite

[@DJAYPAZ]

Interesting video. I would like to see a video about full scale mock-ups like the one that was built for the American competitor for the Concorde. It never made past the mock-up stage.

[@FoundAndExplained]

I have that in my channel. L-2000 Lockheed :)

[@trainglen22]

Holy crap, the Flying wing is huge!

[@noahbowie5985]

The problem with the sonic cruiser is that it was neither fast nor fuel efficient enough. Concorde worked bc it was fast enough to offset the fuel inefficiency

[@StarlordYT69]

Hair jell:special thanks. 😂😂😂

[@warrenwattles8397]

Fairy Rotodyne would have been a crazy passenger aircraft

[@paulmcgown7504]

Crazy yes and a fuel pig that would have no commercial application today. Designed for city to city market it would also have been unpopular due to the noise for take off. Saying that, US marines insisted of reinventing the wheel with the Osprey V-22, even more complicated and with the embarrassing tendency to fall out of the sky.

[@biohazardia4608]

I think that the Boeing Sonic Cruser as well as the Sukoi KR-860 are the best concept aircrafts. The first one for speedtravelling, better than Concorde, the KR-860 for comfortabe transport of lots people and a great cargo amount.

[@antontsau]

big planes (double and even triple deckers) all have the same problem - if something happens you have to transport corpses by dump tracks. No one will be able to jump out in time (90sec!) before it turns to fire and smoke grave. Its the reason why A380 was never made in single-class configuration with about 700 passengers onboard, even it required only seat reconfiguration.

[@tomtalker2000]

It's really unfortunate that we never got some of these modern designs. I think commercial aviation is and continues to be so slow in terms of any "radical" advancements. One thing they should be focusing on again. Especially, in this new modern era. Is a new supersonic passenger jet like the Concorde. That to me is an absolutely necessity as we advance further into the future. And i hope they come out with something in the next 10-20yrs.

[@yungphan9273]

Good video!😃👍

[@AmberDoodle_]

Whenever a plane takes up to much runway, I yell THEN MAKE THE ENGINES TURN 90 DEGREES!!!

[@aristeidislykas7163]

01:17 "...civil version..." What a pity they did not build it! Every airplane should also come in a more gentle, civil version!

[@infernaldaedra]

If you've ever been inside a c-5 galaxy it's straight fckn mind bogglingly huge in the cargo bay

[@CarlosConsorcioCastellanoPerez]

@@infernaldaedra bro yeah I just remember being amazed how high the roof was, things are like flying apartment blocks.

[@infernaldaedra]

@@CarlosConsorcioCastellanoPerez almost enough room to play football in there lol

[@richardlionheart3965]

The book "Stuck on the drawing board" is great for more info on the British vstol airliners and lots of other UK designs that never made it for economic or political reasons.

[@AverageEgyptian]

The wingship looks like something i would see in aviation dreamcore

[@shakawhenthewallsfell8570]

I think there was a Boeing Blended Wingbody concept. It was smaller than the Tu-404 and would be powered by three (I think) GE-90 engines on inverted pylons at the back.

[@Zackman217]

What makes the 747 work than all the other never built gigantic commercial aircrafts?

[@shrimpflea]

Economics.

[@patrickracer43]

Lockheed-Maritn, designing the VLT: "look, we all might not like each other, but I need your help with this plane" Boeing and Airbus: "lmao no, we won't help you with your pipe dream cargo plane"

[@Duvstep910]

i love the soviets' larger-than-life thinking

[@MrTaxiRob]

A passenger version of the AN-225 would have been amazing. China was going to develop one under license from Antonov before the bottom fell out of the industry.

[@antoinepepin1892]

The Condor looks amazing! Of course, the Lockheed-Martin Very Large Transport is a beauty with a massive sci-fi look but the Condor really does it for me! Thank you, Found And Explained for this video!

[@Bucketroo]

Astounding how you manage to talk about the Aerocon Dash 1.6 Wingship without ever uttering the word "ekranoplan", WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS! 10:16 - It sounds like you're saying "prop-fed technology". These types of engines were known as "unducted fans" at the time, and some did enter service.

[@Nucleon-7]

That war robots background music is fire🔥

[@kimboost9686]

12:00 I love the music

[@Ravenous1369]

This may sound weird but I'm still not over the loss of the Sonic Cruiser. It was one of the first concept aircraft I learned about while it was in development after catching some Discovery Channel special about future planes back in '01 and to me it still looks way cooler than any conventional aircraft we've gotten since. Course that's exactly the sort of reason why it didn't pan out, still I'm on the lookout for a nice model to own and hope that some flight sim developer somewhere has decided to put that beauty into their game for weirdos like me.

[@ChessMasterNate]

Oh, could you do one on the quad-chopper version of the Osprey?

[@DEP717]

The Argentine Airliner might have been able to use asbestos as both heat and sound insulation, but they would need a lot of it. The Boeing 727, and L-1011 pulled similar stuff off. Granted that was with engines of a later generation. Argentina's shift makes me think, they could have gotten into the position Brazil got into with Embraer. Of course, the question is if the tech and market conditions could have lined up for them in that time frame as opposed to Embraer's. The Argentine jet was designed by Kurt Tank, who had designed the FW-200 Condor and the FW-190 Fighter in the 1930s and 40s.

[@Zreknarf]

ground effect planes are so cool, hope someone builds one some day

[@OCTConteudo]

I missed the 767X, the model of Boeing 767 with a 757 fuselage on top of it

[@EvanG529]

Completely agree, most stuff in the skies these days is boring.

[@Ryuu1010YT]

design looks cool but more problems

[@erikerice9068]

Even though they never made them, I still think they're the coolest planes I've ever seen.

[@Ryuu1010YT]

probably has tons of problems if we ever tried built them