Foundations of a Holy Orthodox Marriage

(Excerpted from "Fr. Peter Heers on the State of the Orthodox Church" - Interview with Brother Augustine and Fr. Peter Heers from September 2021)
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[@TheZMom_Emmelia]

Nobody said Christianity would be easy! 💖🙏🏻

[@HubertofLiege]

How many kids do you have? Hahahaha I know you!

[@TheZMom_Emmelia]

@@HubertofLiege 9 ;) who are you? I don’t recognize your name. :)

[@HubertofLiege]

@@TheZMom_Emmelia I’ll wink at you at some point

[@papayama3678]

@@HubertofLiege Creepy

[@HubertofLiege]

@@papayama3678 so is veganism, but I personally know her so don’t fret , she’s got a dozen kids and a big husband.

[@sabiduriaortodoxa3548]

Christ is Risen! Thank you Father for all your work...

[@brotheraugustine]

Thank you again for your premarital counsel 🙏🏻☦️

[@joscelynstevens8389]

We are having our crowning on June 26th of this year (our 25th protestant wedding anniversary)! So thankful for the Orthodox church and the struggle!

[@TheZMom_Emmelia]

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[@baskatz3443]

Glory to God.

[@LadyMaria]

God grant you both many years! ☦🌹 💗 We got married in 2014 in an historic wedding chapel in Las Vegas (the city next to ours) as I was a lapsed Protestant with Roman Catholic sympathies and he was an active LDS Mormon so we didn't have a church we attended together. We were supposed to be married in the gymnasium of an LDS meeting house by one of their "bishops" but that fell through. At our ceremony we requested that God be mentioned in the ceremony and they said yes but He was not mentioned by the "reverend". Fast forward to now, we are both devout Orthodox Christians and we had our Crowning Ceremony in January after waiting awhile. Our marriage is whole now, united with God. Every Orthodox couple needs the Crowning Ceremony! It is the only way to unite our marriage to God! May God bless you and all here. ☦

[@jesss8985]

Congratulations.. I just got baptized in indonesia orthodox church 2 days ago

[@JoshuaFaheyRoofer]

Thank you for having the courage to say this! What a relief.

[@HubertofLiege]

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[@laceygreenwood]

It's sad that people don't want to hear this, and that it is difficult to find a spiritual father one feels one can trust in wisdom and confidence for sound counsel on many things.

[@ivansince91]

The center should be Christ🙏. Great advice father.

[@willashcroft6708]

Thank you Father, a vitality that remains for many years!

[@oneofmany7051]

Thank you so much for this! I knew I had this feeling my husband and I should be married in the church after our Chrismation for a good reason! I will definitely press my priest to do this.

[@sabiduriaortodoxa3548]

@@WishingForRain That would be preferred, but it is up to the Bishop afterall.

[@oneofmany7051]

@@WishingForRain Thankfully, we were also baptized at our Chrismation.

[@BodilessVoice]

First, get baptized. Then get married. Christianity has syntax.

[@mrlinguini83]

Thank you father glory to God in all things

[@MarcusBarnabassisSystersSonne]

Glory to God!

[@ivygarcia9525]

Thank you father Peter, and glory to God for His guidance in every aspect of our lives! 🙏☦️

[@dianacrainiciuc8440]

Thank you, Father. Your words are heard and put into practice.

[@MartyRodriguezOrthodoxMarine]

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[@chardeemacdennis357]

hit me pretty hard, but what I needed to hear.

[@baskatz3443]

I think Onan was punished not because he spilled his seed but because he disobeyed the command to father a child dedicated to his dead brother.

[@permanenceaesthetic6545]

This was exactly the point I was going to raise as well. Would love to hear Father’s take on the matter. It’s hard to find patristic sources on that passage.

[@OrthoReadings]

No, it was because he spilled seed. Look up “Florilegium on Onan: A Response to “Birth Control and Family Planning.” It’s a florilegium of both Eastern and Western fathers universally speaking against spilling seed (Onanism).

[@OrthodoxChristianTheology]

Thanks Sebastian for plugging the article. People are rejecting the fathers on this to justify their own mores.

[@OrthodoxChristianTheology]

Saint Gregory Palamas on a related note: “For the physical impulse to reproduce is involuntary and does not obey the law of our mind, although some do bring it forcibly into subjection, while others chastely give rein to it solely for the purpose of betting children.” (Homily 52 Par 7)

[@baskatz3443]

@@OrthodoxChristianTheology I know a pious couple who have been trying for years for a child and they can’t due to fertility issues. Should they now be chaste until death?

[@shelbys2750]

No, Saint Paul says only to be apart for a time as is agreed upon by the couple but then to come together again so as not to be tempted.

[@lornadoone8887]

What advice and rule does the Church have for couples who are married where only one later becomes Orthodox?

[@pravoslavnipouki7540]

@@WishingForRain how? Since only Orthodox can participate in the mysteries and take Holy Communion?

[@acekoala457]

Pray for them.

[@jamierenner2115]

@@pravoslavnipouki7540 The common cup shared during the holy matrimony is not communion. Baptized Christians that are not Orthodox may be married in the church.

[@posttenebraslux7571]

I made sure my fiancé is open to conversion before I even considered him for a long term relationship. Religion is most important for me, so either he converts or there's no future for us, I want us to be on the same page.

[@4shinta]

As a divorced Catholic making the transition to Holy Orthodoxy, would i be able to marry in the Orthodox Church after being fully accepted into the Church? Are there any steps i have to take or am i ok to do so since Orthodoxy doesn't acknowledge Catholic sacraments?

[@specialcombatdefensivetact1784]

Been married for 50 years, was recently baptized, and catechized in the church. Should we ask our priest to marry us?

[@zakkariaclark3143]

It's a good concept. I love it and agree with it. However, traditional marriages are quite rare, and even more rare in practice. If you're under 23, it's nearly impossible.

[@thevintagegypsy5325]

I found out that my ex husband was never baptized and my Catholic priest married us anyway.! We went to pre cana and everything and it was never brought up. I never thought to bring it up as his mother was Presbyterian and His father was Jewish. We were so young. Now, they don't know what to do. I can't get it annulled, as it wasn't a valid marriage, so does that mean I lived in sin for 25 yrs and didn't know it!. Do I go to hell for that? Am I forgiven? is the marriage I am in now like a first marriage since the first wasn't valid? it's a hot mess.

[@OrthodoxEthos]

Another reason why you should depart from the error of papal Protestantism and embrace the one holy Catholic orthodox apostolic faith and church which would not have these kinds of errors and would not have a problem with dealing with these things quite quickly.

[@thevintagegypsy5325]

@@OrthodoxEthos ❤️

[@tristimulus]

If you truly didn't know, I really don't think God would judge you for that, given that Christians are under grace and not under law. I do not know the particulars of your circumstance but the cause of divorce is probably a lot more in question than the "legitimacy" of your marriage. Either way, confess and ask for forgiveness in repentance, and your sins (even unknown sins) will be forgiven.

[@tristimulus]

@@OrthodoxEthos you boasted about Orthodoxy but did not actually provide an edifying answer....

[@deanaburnham9571]

Kate: God would not hold you accountable for sin of which you were unaware. You are not held accountable. Please let that sink in. God does not hold accountable those who did not know they were breaking a serious law. God is not like human judges. He sees the condition of your heart. I'm just an educated Benedictine who is becoming, God willing, Orthodox. So, I suggest you talk to other priests and not count entirely on a KZbin video for your spiritual formation.

[@stevelenores5637]

Let's see on this one. I don't think the apostles were remarried by Jesus. In Acts when whole families were baptized there was no mention of the couple having to say their marriage vows again. What would that say about the children already conceived and born before the couples baptism? As scripture and the church fathers are silent perhaps we should also be silent.

[@thenarrowdoor7]

Its easier not to get married i guess , temptationd rise more in marriage

[@alexandraphipps]

Your proposition therefore extends thusly: Any wife with a hysterectomy who has sex with her husband is gravely sinning. Further, any wife having sex after menopause is also sinning. Interesting how celibate monks seem to like spreading this very unpastoral vision.

[@OrthodoxEthos]

Is it blessed to get a hysterectomy? Sexual relations after menopause are blessed if the married couple is open to having children if God provides them. The Theotokos, St. John the Forerunner and other saints were the offspring of such unions.