LA Fires: Surge of strong winds pose threat to California firefighting efforts

[@ViperKunst]

those idiots wont admit that its their fault that the fires were to bad to begin with

[@MidnightMark12]

If you look at the map of the area for the election it looks like a map of the Pacific Ocean which they are right next to but still found a way to run out of water.

[@calvin394]

@@MidnightMark12They never ran out of water. They don’t have the infrastructure to fight massive fires. Our system is built for single building fires. Its not rocket science according to the firefighters.

[@videosuperhero100]

@viperkunst maybe you could explain what you think you mean by its "their fault"? I'm watching the jon and chris who is an army vet and JPL employee and on an oxygen mask who lost everything, is that who you are referring to?

[@Noodlepoke]

people of L.A. should not believe that god is trying to wipe them off the map

[@davidoh4562]

@@Noodlepokethis was definitely premeditated by government but we should know everything about everything hopefully the day after inauguration

[@PWRX-bp9hx]

So we're supposed to believe this massive fire happened because one man thought he heard fireworks when he was probably just hearing the crackle of the fire

[@TheLifeAhO]

I mean it hasn’t rained in like 8 months

[@arkpeace]

Global warming and climate change caused this? Really? Let’s talk about incompetence and improper land management for starters.

[@success-fact]

Wake up! Global warming is a fact! That’s why the fires are still raging-because we are experiencing record-high temperatures and record-dry conditions! You need to look at the whole picture and avoid taking things out of context or understanding the issue in a one-sided way.

[@MM-kt4is]

😂😂wow the weather girl knows everything about "climate on earth" 😂 How about filling the reservoirs with water!

[@bullcrap9409]

@MM-kt4is Tena of explanations online from reputable experts explaining why the one empty reservoir did NOT hamper firefighters’’ efforts. (In part because all other reservoirs were actually at much higher levels than is normal this time of year.

[@fawssb99]

it's over dry over hot and severe winds consistent with climate change ... still need a spark though

[@toomignon]

@@fawssb99And we don't do the fire mitigation we used to do. Both can be true. It makes me mad that our leadership throws up their hands and says "climate change". Yeah. so? That makes fire mitigation MORE important, not less.

[@poppy0404]

No one believes it was fireworks 😣

[@fredericpichette5637]

lizardmen maby

[@landysok90]

It was rainbow laser used by aliens and the government

[@OFFICIALMEHKO]

What definitely could have Happen is a wildfire started due to winds and they decided " hey, since there's already a fire going on, let's go ahead and have people spread the fire!" 😂

[@maryalison5173]

Seriously? No DEWs, no state mismanagement of forests and lands, and water resources ? No plans for a 2028 smart city? Hmmmm.

[@armaellis6358]

@@maryalison5173 Don't worry your daddy will fix it after Jan. 20 . 😆

[@landysok90]

I went to school with thar guy that got arrested for starting one of the fires. Does he work for the government? No. You're just one of those conspiracy theory people

[@donniB179]

I hate it when climate sets fireworks off in dry areas.

[@Maryhilton-ws6ol]

Im in UK THOSE BLOODY THINGS SHOULD BE BANNED. they are a nuisance scare injure animals, and kids always excuse to light them here. Even those stupid chinese flying things too, especially in america where brush is plenty and wooden houses, its horrendous this fire! I thought america could cloud seed and make it rain? Like they did in vietnam operation popeye? 😢😢😢 sorry for all the victims of this, i think some arson thrown in here too???

[@jessicaquick6411]

lol guessing you are being sarcastic

[@MidnightMark12]

@@jessicaquick6411 Behold Karen Bass as she makes history today as the first black woman to ever to keep her mouth shut when the camera is running. So. Much. History. California voters are in for a real trial because they already found the fattest blackest gayest woman that they could put in City Hall - what are they going to do now?

[@JeremiahsGrotto-ok7ed]

...climate emptied the reservoirs 🫤

[@reptilewithsadhumaneyes]

I hate it when only one thing can be true at a time because we’ve been brainwashed to ignore reality

[@janisosborne1775]

When you build your town in the desert expect a dry climate with little rainfall.

[@Iwetbeds]

I have a good idea, they should all relocate to where you live! solutions to complex problems are easy.

[@MidnightMark12]

You can be sure whoever's responsible for starting this is going to get up in front of the cameras there to start squealing about global warming some more.

[@johnzabik270]

They can blame whatever they want for the fire but it basically boils down to forest fire management and the Governor Gruesome. He was warned by Trump about this and he ignored him. Governor Gruesome is responsible for all of this

[@bullcrap9409]

@johnzabik270 A water system for a city built up hills in a desert is NEVER going to be able to provide maximum flow out of all outlets and hydrants. Never.

[@armaellis6358]

Your daddy is smart and knows more than anyone else. Lol😊

[@jessicaquick6411]

exactly

[@tyeash7822]

Lol,you believing that idiot,no one is raking the forest floor,in the world not just cali,yall believe any dumb chit cum out him mouth.

[@MidnightMark12]

If you're from the Southeast, they'll insult you if one of the hurricanes hits. Then they will tell you what a drag you are on their economy. If you're from the Midwest, they'll call you a stupid uneducated bumpkin who doesn't read books. Then they will tell you what a drag you are on their economy. If you're from the Northeast they call you stupid for living in the snow. Then they will tell you what a drag you are on their economy.

[@MagnusMalinois]

Complaining about climate change is not going to change the fire danger. Preventative measures should to be taken. Not defunding Fire Dept.

[@armaellis6358]

Fossil Fuel drilling .

[@jessicaquick6411]

exactly

[@singsongshow]

the fire department is socialism and must go!

[@Golfing422]

Their global supply chain is a major source of co2 emissions and the fact that they won’t talk about that just shows they really don’t believe their own words.

[@rivaazdesai5546]

Intense sunlight shone through a glass in the right conditions can magnify the light and start a fire

[@MidnightMark12]

Just think they were actually sucking cock in those buildings all the bravest and the brightest. Ol’ Gavin better watch out how close he stands to those fires with all that product in his hair. "You can find help at URL" - Karen Bass

[@robsan52]

22' and 23' had a huge amount of rain all around L.A. and as usual none was saved for firefighting.

[@Flamerocket42069]

22 was wet! I work outside I felt like. WW1 soldier cold and wet all the time!

[@wekenny3336]

Sad news reporting talking to us like we're little children

[@MidnightMark12]

You can be sure whoever's responsible for starting this is going to get up in front of the cameras there to start squealing about global warming some more.

[@johnzabik270]

Why are fireworks 🎇 sold in places in places like this

[@sylvanawick3819]

They are not, people buy them from other states and bring them back home

[@MagnusMalinois]

People travel to other states to buy them. Fireworks are illegally brought in.

[@shauntesofly]

They are not as someone from Louisiana who moved to California there was a big difference when it came to fireworks a lot of people told me that they would go to places like Louisiana to buy fireworks

[@jessicaquick6411]

freedom this was not fireworks

[@toomignon]

@@johnzabik270 They buy them in Nevada or in Mexico.

[@brandyatkinson390]

They have proved they can make it rain, so why didnt they??

[@ivanan7427]

they can also make the wind

[@saulvallejo7268]

Now even the rich becoming homeless... what a pattern!

[@Model1985]

God has a sense of humor, you see how the celebrities mocked him at the Golden Globe awards like a day before these fires started?

[@jessicaquick6411]

trust me they have homes elsewhere

[@Yamaha38XCRacer]

I dot. Want more transplants here raising property taxes any longer

[@Yamaha38XCRacer]

Stay out of the rockies and go elsewhere, I’m sick of them thinking they are above because they came from Encino, they don’t know how to change a tire for Pete’s sake, and they think a grizzly look friendly and trespass by the hundred on our ranch all the time..I put spike boards out for the tires and they got the point

[@smartracingautocraft5583]

World is round and goes around..what u give...u get back !!

[@BadBoy-so2pq]

One country voted against ceasefire...now the fire isnt ceasing in that country

[@shauntesofly]

They don't hear you though my friend

[@shauntesofly]

​@@BadBoy-so2pqexactly

[@tonycaine5930]

Palisade = Palestine

[@Cutlerypotato]

You obviously aren't familiar with the amazing work of beautiful scientific minds like Kyrie Irving

[@Ontheoutsidelookingin-t4b]

A cow kicked a candle over

[@aboamgd1991]

When oppression is done on earth, justice is written in sky

[@MidnightMark12]

Californitards can sell their scrap off just like Joe Biden sold the wall components - for pennies on the dollar. Can you swing by and do DC and New York City while you're at it?

[@Theunsilentmajority]

My opinion, power lines. They'll look for anything to point responsibility away from their poorly built power grid.

[@armaellis6358]

Climate Change is Real.

[@janicefreeman1199]

Yep! The Big PG&E said they'd be putting Underground Lines but instead they Gave their CEOs Bonuses, Higher Wages. Corporate America is Not for America.

[@reality-winner5759]

What started the fire is not the problem; the problem they should be investigating is how inept state governer, city officials, fire officials, and mayor

[@ivanan7427]

It is problem, what started the fire, if it was started by purpose on 5 or more places.

[@johnzabik270]

Forest Fire Management thats the cause

[@jessicaquick6411]

you mean NO FOREST MANAGEMENT RIGHT?

[@edieiyon]

Until we teach this generation how to humble themselves and belittleing other countries because of their poor conditions, the wrath will continue. Always remember, life is like a wheel, sometimes you're on top and sometimes you're at the bottom. Turn back to God because there's already too many Atheist in this country who thinks they have control over their life. We are too obsessed with material things. Live simple and you'll be HAPPY!!!!!!

[@user-gw9lh3lc8c]

Absolutely 💯 ❤

[@4everjaguar]

100% true

[@jessicaquick6411]

no as long as we have wicked leaders

[@EightyFour-s3z]

GAZA

[@ateksudianto6237]

"Beautiful sight to behold" - Nancy Pelosi

[@globalflow8]

It's so sad to see nature and homes destroyed like this 😟

[@jjdonnellan1]

Any sympathy for the people of Gaza ?

[@videosuperhero100]

@@jjdonnellan1 is there somewhere in this video you are commenting on talking about gaza?

[@Yamaha38XCRacer]

Nah, are people first!!! I mean citizens, not border runners or other country from afar..

[@johnzabik270]

People and their stupid fireworks..costing the people and this Country damage

[@jessicaquick6411]

BULLSHIT

[@deborahguglomo]

It wasn't fireworks

[@rooney2561]

This wasn't started by fireworks people stop spreading rumors.

[@KarenRedekop]

Ban fireworks anyway no good for anyone

[@kakashielite]

Ok Karen 😂

[@nodaysoff2005]

You're mad. It will never be banned. Manage your land

[@MagnusMalinois]

Even if fireworks are entirely banned idiot, careless, selfish people will still get ahold of them or build their own. 😢

[@jessicaquick6411]

no no more restrictions on our freedoms this was not fireworks this was negligence plain and simple incompetent unprepared leaders

[@silentslayergaming8469]

A literal Karen

[@davidpori5493]

Time to blame some trees and fireworks 😂😂😂😂

[@Grant-ww6gg]

The video tells everything. The power company is responsible.

[@AllenKranawettrr]

It's a stupid government regulations

[@ronaldmoore7400]

Don't do forest management when you can blame it on climate change

[@joeeoj6187]

Who do midwesterners blame when an F5 destroys a community? Californians blame man for acts of nature too often

[@LV-yp8bd]

Xa-xa!

[@mekdeszerfu1483]

White black red and yellow rich and poor people please listen a message from heaven THIS IS NOT LIKE ANYOTHER DISASTER PLEASE DONT KILL YOUR TIME INVESTIGATONG THE BUT HERE IS THE REASON JESUS IS COMMING SOON REPENT AND DECIDE TO FOLLOW JESUS JESUS IS COMMING SOON REPENT AND DECIDE TO FOLLOW JESUS Praying From Ethiopia for america 🇺🇸 God please save all of them and help them i pray all of the world believe in Jesus christ the savior of the world 🌎

[@mekdeszerfu1483]

White black red and yellow rich and poor people please listen a message from heaven THIS IS NOT LIKE ANYOTHER DISASTER PLEASE DONT KILL YOUR TIME INVESTIGATONG THE BUT HERE IS THE REASON JESUS IS COMMING SOON REPENT AND DECIDE TO FOLLOW JESUS JESUS IS COMMING SOON REPENT AND DECIDE TO FOLLOW JESUS Praying From Ethiopia for america 🇺🇸 God please save all of them and help them i pray all of the world believe in Jesus christ the savior of the world 🌎

[@BrittKluver]

Fireworks goes up and not side ways

[@blizzardboo9076]

How about a publisher and editor step up to speak to this gentleman and bring the photos back to life via his historical memories...title it: The Well. There's a wealth of historical data in our seniors, if we just take the time to ask, and record. Prayers to this precious couple (and all affected by the fires). Don't let his photos be forgotten simply because their physically lost. They live in his memories. Write the story they most certainly have held.

[@charlesloomis2224]

When i here someone blaming Climate Change, I stop listening to them.

[@EightyFour-s3z]

WORD

[@rooney2561]

Exactly

[@beebee-pc6vn]

Bless everyone when disasters happens like that, not nice at all 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💔💔💔 so painful, lost homes etc etc !! God bless everybody no matter where they're !🙏🏻🙏🏻🧚‍♂️🧚‍♀️🧡💛💗

[@gregschneider4566]

DEI Ghana girl needs to resign and be Arrested , FACT

[@armaellis6358]

DJT mismanaged COVID and a million Americans died. You reelected him as your President. Now you're reduced to name calling. May your heart be Blessed with God's Speed.

[@nodaysoff2005]

If someone started this you just have to wait. They will end up bragging and tell on themselves

[@rosettamarie9108]

GOD is real! Lies don't change that! Mocking GOD caused it!😮

[@HughGoldspiel]

It’s not arson if you don’t live there, you drive over 100 miles to be there, and point a Roman candle at a pile of dry weeds

[@jessicaquick6411]

still arson

[@Thailegion]

That makes no sense whatsoever look how easily they play with our lives like we’re nothing more than cattle and we still follow laws listening to judges and cops, corporations, etc. Am glad I left the cities just two months ago because if your in their cities your going to pay dearly

[@logomez76]

Undergrounding Saves Lives. Underground Electric Power in Altadena Now!

[@craigbrown2385]

so. is unauthorized camping activity a "woke" way of saying a homeless drug addict burnt down one of America's most expensive neighborhoods? or did some REI yuppie hike up into the hills a few blocks from the ritz Carlton and started camping and his camp stove fire got out of control?

[@nickiannuzzi2368]

Its not the fire works fault its the stupid people who set them off knowing conditions r rip for fires!

[@LV-yp8bd]

Last winter, the reining continued until March of 2024, so we can't say that winters became dry.

[@bullcrap9409]

@LV-yp8bd Get educated. Ye before last, record rains and growth of plants, shrubs, trees. This last year? Record drought which turned all that new growth into bone dry kindling. Then? Record high winds acting like a bellows on that burning tinder. And all three records - rain, drought, wind speeds - are the result of climate change. .

[@sostrongineedmoreofyourmon974]

@@bullcrap9409you make laughable assertions. Records since when? People love to cite these kinds of “records” with little to zero awareness of when the numbers began to be recorded. Climate change is always happening and humanity has little to no impact on it for either severity or direction. Before oil, we had coal, before coal, we had open wood fires. None of the other sources of energy made the earth’s weather patterns better or worse. We are simply along for the ride as cosmic forces play out around and through the planet. Grow up.

[@azrael8598]

Ban fireworks every year so many pets gets scared and escape their yards and I can’t even go anywhere now it’s for fires too!!! NOOO

[@Lenny77199]

Train your animals

[@jessicaquick6411]

no stop infringing on freedom we have too damn many laws already

[@jessicaquick6411]

by the way they are banned already

[@BrittKluver]

They want to bild a smart city at 2028...first insurens Police and then fire breaks out ..many people see samthing els....

[@michaelnaretto3409]

How sad. All of those memories are gone to never be replaced. On a happier note, I used to live in the Santa Barbara area and the courthouse is truly a beautiful building. The courtrooms have fantastic murals on the walls.

[@WayneDome-dm8iu]

So sorry to see this happen. Breaks my heart. Why wasn't there any large buffer zones in between homes and the forest. Seems like pure arrogance to live next to a known fire hazard area. This has been burning in same location for hundreds of years.

[@jessicaquick6411]

because the demonrat leaders choose not to do the prevention or have enough water stored for this type of fire they even cut the fire dept ,by millions they did no management

[@moselleconger4156]

Can’t be hard to find the people who set off the fireworks….

[@jessicaquick6411]

it's a lie fireworks were not the cause

[@rooney2561]

This wasn't fireworks. Stop with rumors.

[@n2itdivine446]

That swiss tower is the cause. The people recorded it .

[@jot8000]

"Quick!!.. we must send more money to Ukraine to stop this fire !! " - Democrats

[@MarioAndreschak]

This is surreal and heartbreaking. When the cameraman was panning over the neighbourhood I was literally reminded of the Fallout Games. This is apocalyptic.

[@OFFICIALMEHKO]

Are you serious? A scientist that LIVES In California stated YEARS ago that he was surprised California had not yet set on fire and that all it took was the right wind speeds to induce a wildfire! Sounds like a manager that doesn't want to take responsibility for directing the employee to remain silent on an issue that the employee knew was bound to happen then the issue occurs and now the manager wants to find someone to blame 😂

[@Ma-zz3mx]

How is it possible to allow fireworks in an area like this, as soon you hear or see fireworks come and jail these people.

[@jessicaquick6411]

wasnt fireworks was an electric tower there is footage of it by those who lived near it

[@deborahguglomo]

The fireworks was 7 days before, on new years. Soooo no way

[@Netstarr88]

Newson's policies are the cause

[@Asyik2aku]

Shortage of firefighters why not calling Israel and Ukraine firefighters to help...?????

[@armaellis6358]

Fix your heart with God's Speed.

[@jessicaquick6411]

they have 14000 but they had no water due to crappy leaders failed planning

[@Shivaismysaviour]

They are busy counting your money 💰

[@davidr27100]

Stupid, not because CLIMATE CHANGE, STUPID!!!😡😡😡

[@richjames7948]

Why then?

[@armaellis6358]

Climate Change is real. Fat m

[@MagnusMalinois]

Because no fire prevention was taken!!!

[@armaellis6358]

@MagnusMalinois Climate Change is Real .

[@mrewilson106]

Fire Tetrahedron:Fuel, Wind, Heat and Chain Reaction; Atleast one of the factors must be suppressed

[@darrellamy166]

Recall

[@jazzmuscolini5121]

My ❤ goes out to L A. The east coast is right there with you all, heart and soul. We see all your Stars and Stripes still shining!

[@vikingnusantara]

Why are they still using helo when there is drone

[@mortymorty7903]

And a very wet winter the season before... not climate change ..

[@armaellis6358]

Yes , Climate Change. Research and study.

[@armaellis6358]

@@mortymorty7903 Why not both true and same time.? Keep living because life is a journey and if you're aware of self you're learn alot along the way to your own destiny.

[@gatorbodine2011]

California has left god and his word for such a long time now there reckoning has came.

[@jjdonnellan1]

The people of Gaza send their condolences. Karma ?

[@debralynnpaxton5238]

Continued prayers for the precious people, animals, flora, and infrastructure of California ❤❤❤ 🙏 ✝️ 😢😢😢

[@AlphonsodeBarbo]

Too late!

[@Clayton-o5c]

Stop blaming it on climate chang. The Earth's weather has gone through cycles of extreme heat as well as ice ages. Many things affect the weather, and we may be a small part, but we're not the whole puzzle. We've had fires forever and being unprepared is a large reason for the devastation. Maybe we shouldn't build in fire prone areasif we can't protect the areas.

[@JohnRogers0014]

Didn't 4 fires start at the same time?

[@jessicaquick6411]

yes not from fireworks you can bet your life on that

[@patrickgarvey146]

New term for homelessness introduced here, unauthorized camping activity! Ffs!

[@zinashepherd3261]

Faults accusing people of price gouging should be a crime if a home is the same price as before the fire how is that price gouging. You should be a shamed for being slandering hustlers using cry baby cry wolf tactics because your house burned and your resentful of others still standing is worse then if they actually were price gouging which their not the house is same price as before fire I understand the frustration of finding a place to call home because of natural disasters. But don’t slander people because you want some place cheaper or less expensive stop using slandering tactics like hustlers to extort homes from owners

[@diannerose]

When man fails to turn out the fire . Remember ,God is more powerful.

[@brucemorrison8357]

I can only imagine the long lines of ambulance chasers and carpetbaggers down there. (And plane loads coming to LAX from all over the country.) Probably every burned-out house already has 50 business cards stapled to it.

[@perambulate1]

If his pictures are on spinning hard drives then I think perhaps the folks at JPL can retrieve his photos. The disks did not melt. Neither did the aluminum on the cars. I heard two different television journalists report that the rivulets of shiny material that seemed to have streamed from the burned car was melted aluminum. It was plastic not aluminum. Unbelievable.

[@vijaykumar-vh6si]

Without delay must go in for artifical rains

[@PWRX-bp9hx]

The wind was almost 70 mph all night when the fire broke out in the night who's popping fireworks in those high winds

[@lecture401]

What was inside that Tesla that blew up infront of the trump tower in Las Vegas ?

[@highkeygoat3082]

What winds??

[@Rustea314]

Never miss an opportunity to blame government, comrade.

[@manzalone2148]

"Not the drones with lasers" ...? Hawaii times 1000!

[@morefreetv4315]

they try to blame random guy to cover up.

[@bellamescudi6901]

And last year a ton of rain … yeah ok

[@Hatchet-w6x]

Keep voting for democrats, it'll get better!

[@Amanda-vp8cj]

They will take that advice literally lol

[@jessicaquick6411]

LMAO and crying at same time for the people who are suffering

[@joshshanks4917]

Where was this coverage for North Carolina, they still need help

[@screenapple1660]

Victim Sues Fire Insurance Company After Claim Denial OH my GOD....😱😭 After their home was completely destroyed in a fire, the homeowner filed a claim expecting to receive the full coverage they were promised. However, the insurance company denied the claim or provided an amount far below what was needed to rebuild. Despite paying premiums for years, the homeowner was left with minimal compensation-often only covering small damages or personal property, but not the actual cost to reconstruct the home. Frustrated by the company’s refusal to honor the policy, the victim decided to sue the insurance company for breach of contract. The homeowner argued that the policy clearly covered full rebuilding costs, and that the insurance company had acted in bad faith by denying the full claim. The lawsuit claims the insurer failed to uphold its obligations, causing undue financial and emotional hardship. This kind of legal action is common when policyholders feel that their insurance company is not living up to the terms of the agreement, especially in cases of total loss. Homeowners are often forced to fight for what they are legally owed, sometimes leading to lengthy legal battles.

[@Ya_flyness]

Who turned the water off?

[@gobbletegook]

MTG still says its the Jewish Space Lasers....

[@jessicaquick6411]

aimed at edison power tower most likely yeah another bunch of soeculation no proof

[@manishkalia9295]

US : No Cease-fire Nature : Roger that !!

[@screenapple1660]

Fire Insurance refuse to cover all destroyed houses.

[@trekkamolebatsi3272]

Americans especially southern Californians need to practice building their houses with concrete bricks & cement rather than wood & Asbestos., thats how alot of them lost their houses at this magnitude

[@flamesofzionworshipcenter4994]

Prayer, Prayer prayer prayer

[@sheltonsaved2001]

Nevermind people being caught setting fires, nevermind lack of prepairedness...Defflections

[@leenyok85]

It is not me, it is the other guy

[@smiley148784]

No one believes this was accidental...

[@asharahmad1068]

I hope the fire doesnt stop so that Americans will be busy with themselves and wont interfere in our countries

[@alimasum6016]

😅😅😅😅amin

[@EdwardManurung-d6k]

😅

[@metalrocker627]

As an American, I agree. ☝🏼

[@waynebollman]

I completely agree. America's domestic tragedies are a temporary blessing to the rest of the world.

[@jessicaquick6411]

lo that is never gonna happen ,just saying

[@fcruzsantiago]

No satellite view to review that’ll speed up investigation of probable cause?

[@msgemsgems]

I wouldn't even light a jumping jack out there. Ban all fireworks.

[@gloriacruz4834]

Oh please don't blame this on climate change!!!!!!!

[@robpowell8849]

We are in search of every reason. In the end it was fire that got big. Let's just pass a law and tell fire it cannot get big.

[@tudorjason]

Fireworks from New Years. Of course.

[@StevoF-4]

Did it hit Jimmy Kimmel’s home yet?

[@galyien]

Fireworks after videos of people lightning fires. VIDEOS OF PEOPLE LIGHTNING FIRES but sure lets keep trying to figure out how this started

[@carmenbecktel849]

Arsonists, possibly Edison power lines!