'Where were you?' LA Co. Fire Chief responds to Palisades Fire response

[@Mountaintopwolf]

This is a lesson for everyone in Los Angeles County… Nobody’s coming to save you when you need them the most.

[@blsti503]

delusional asshole

[@CrispyOkra]

There isn't a community in the world prepared for fires such as these. CalFire & LAFD are the two largest and most prepared fire departments in the country, if not in the world. If you live else where, they're even less prepared.

[@Mountaintopwolf]

@ for the amount of taxes paid I expect government to be far better prepaired (near zero structure loss). If the state & city’s have billions for homelessness & illegal aliens they have money to do whatever it takes for life & homes to be protected from fire no matter what the weather conditions are.

[@CrispyOkra]

@@Mountaintopwolf State taxes are high to fund the state from the lack of federal funding. California pays the most into the federal tax system, while receiving the least per capita. They receive approximately $12 person in federal funding, while small red states that contribute little receive as much as $10,000 per person. Maybe they should withhold federal taxes to fund themselves.

[@CrispyOkra]

@@Mountaintopwolf P.S. Guess where the federal politicians are residence of.

[@LWRC]

Janisse Quinones, head of LADWP, got a $750K salary and she let the Santa Ynez reservoir, that holds 117 million gallons of water, run dry for a tear in the cover ! ! ! Sheer incompetence! And that Bass who put this clown in charge - both of them need to be fired ASAP ! ! !

[@cathytalisman9227]

💯💯💯

[@cathytalisman9227]

That Quinones situation alone is some sort of scandalous money laundering payola.

[@brianplunkett4002]

Yes, that’s an issue.

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

You don't understand anything. Even with 100 trucks in the Palisades using water from Santa Ynez, water needs to get ON the fire to put it out. Can't do that with 15 hrs of hot dry winds blowing 50-100 mph. IMPOSSIBLE

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

@@cathytalisman9227 Not at all. LADWP serves 10 million people. $750K is chump change for a job that big and the best a public salary can offer. PG&E serves 16 million customers but is private - look up their CEO salary. Last I checked $17 million

[@georgeruiz8870]

You here this bull$hit?! He says our property taxes ain’t high enough! We’re the highest taxed state in the nation and this loser is asking for a tax hike. We’re all the money that we’ve paid gone to? Why is there not forensic audits happening? Why hasn’t anyone been fired? These people should be out there demanding true justice. Instead, they’re being gaslit by the leaders who failed them…

[@LTT-z4j]

Why are they not talking about water 24/7. 1800 firefighters how many had water?

[@CrispyOkra]

Highest taxed state in the nation, while being the least federally funded.

[@dmystify1381]

All comes down to dollars these days....sad times indeed.

[@dleon0902]

The budget for the homeless is higher than that of LAFD. Salaries alone is hard to keep up with.

[@Cheeseyman]

@@dmystify1381duh more people costs more money

[@bigggmustang73]

That taxes aren't high enough to pay for the Fire Department is BS!

[@edbrophy4602]

These taxes are only used to pay $770,000 in salaries, so the Fire Chief will tell you that taxes aren't high enough to pay for the Fire Department!

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

@@edbrophy4602 $770K is chump change for a department serving 10 million people. That's the best possible public salary. PG&E is private and serves 16 million customers, their CEO makes $17 million. Which would you rather have?

[@AdnoidHister]

Mismanagement by democrats again ! Californians should learn their lesson well ! Do NOT vote for the Demo-rats !😂

[@truther001]

Did you hear the crack about the 1% tax? Now these fires will reset that. How convenient.

[@u4yk]

The city and LA County taxes everyone from every pore, and they're complaining they're not getting enough money for kickba... I mean resources. Fucking garbage.

[@judydestefano7082]

Why the hell isn't Bass and the City council members that approved the Fire Dept budget cuts at this meeting, the fire fighters worked their asses off! Hope Bass and Council are sued!

[@depthcharge6215]

Cant be sued. They have immunities even if their budget policies were blatant failure.

[@HighSierraBob]

They are all part of a bigger clown show!

[@CrispyOkra]

Maybe you should stop listening to posts on X and do your own research. The budget was actually increased by $50 million from the previous year in November.

[@eltreum1]

@@CrispyOkra The LA city fire chief herself said they had budget cuts even though they are already underfunded for the territory. Local news fact checked that claim as true day 1. Who TF you working for shill? Stop lying!

[@depthcharge6215]

@@CrispyOkra oh is that why they went on camera admitting budget cut did occur clown? Next you're going to tell everyone 24bil to homeless worked but it's missing.

[@cvshav]

Where are the firetrucks, Ukraine?

[@c.s.everett1721]

They offered to send 150 firefighters, just so you know. Several nearby states have sent firefighters and trucks, (no Oregon trucks were turned away, by the time that rumor hit social media they had already been on the front line for a few days). Canada and Mexico (yes, Mexico) have also sent firefighters, and Canada also sent about 7 of what’s just about the best firefighting aircraft around. So California has been getting plenty of help from both the rest of the US and abroad.

[@yurigalin3014]

Stop that bs with Ukraine, it’s Californians who elect idiots!

18 million $ worth GREAT JOB DEI !

[@cvshav]

@@c.s.everett1721 who's they? Ukraine that received multiple billions from Bai-Din??

[@knine8154]

​@@c.s.everett1721Wouldn't have to if the entire system wasn't broken, huh?

[@MinusEighty]

Here's a comprehensive plan: 1. Goats in the hills to reduce fire load. 2. Strict rules regarding defensible space. 3. Able bodied homeowners that meet and drill as part of a neighborhood volunteer brigade. 4. A plan to have enough water available to fight the fire. 5. A fire department that is willing to stay and put out the spot fires so the neighborhood doesn't burn. 6. Helicopters and planes moved into position and at the ready when you have red flag fire conditions. 7. Fire department should have portable pumps to draw from swimming pools in an emergency

[@bradsillasen1972]

1. That'd be a lot of goats and it would severely impact the ecosystems of any wild areas covered. 2. There are, and the burden is on the homeowners to clear defensible space which far to many ignore. Granted, enforcement has been lax and begs greater commitment. 3. Might be a good idea, if it is in fact a feasible option. 4. Just which "the fire" in particular, they're all different, start in different places, under different conditions etc. In either case, there was no shortage of water, just water pressure as local systems were overwhelmed. That situation needs to be addressed. There are some high quality videos on YT that discuss all that in detail. 5. The agencies are way ahead of you on that, but with 100 MPH winds, extreme low humidity, and high fuel load it simply becomes impossible to cover it all, if any. 6. Availability or aerial assets wasn't the issue, it was the wind, smoke, then nightfall preventing fixed winged aircraft from operating even once the wind abated. 7. They do have portable pumps and use them as necessary, but one tanker truck can only hold so much, and at the pressures they use it is quickly spent. Keep in mind that fire agencies are manned by hardcore professionals who take pride in their work. For the average citizen to second guess them, while warranted in some cases, is generally folly. To presume you might understand fire better than they is sheer hubris. In the case of the Palisades fire, the places these homes were built (such as topographical fire chimneys), the design and materials used, and the local urban forestry/horticulture surrounding them, demonstrate a lack of foresight and responsibility. All these lessons were learned in the Belaire fire of 1961, but subsequently ignored by politicians, planners, developers, and homeowners. Don't blame the people who risk their lives cleaning up their mess. Epilogue: Now they all want to reduce regulation and oversight to build back ASAP. So in 20-30 years those in the Pacific Palisades will be asking the same questions that have been answered time and again.

[@MinusEighty]

@@bradsillasen1972 These are all ideas that experts have come up with. So for you to think that you know better is hubris. As for the helicopters and planes they were not available early on when the winds were low. The officials said they weren't on stand by because that was too expensive. As for the goats they are used to create a fire break along the edge of neighborhood. They don't eat everything unless you leave them in one spot for too long. They are if fact be used on the other side of the mountain from the Palisades and could be seen on the news being moved ahead of the fire. The winds were not 100 mph at the Palisades that is total BS. There is no video showing that. The portable pumps were to be used to draw water from swimming pools. You say nothing could have been done? How did elderly men with only a garden hose save several houses? You say that firefighters risked their lives to fight the Palisades fire, but all witness accounts and video indicate the exact opposite. In fact they refused to take any real risk and pulled out to let it all burn. In the 1961 fire they fought house to house street by street and only lost 458 homes. In the Palisades fire they pulled back and let it all burn. Facts.

[@pearlangeline]

Those professionals are 100% responsible. It's their job to inform the public if there is a level of risk they know they can't handle. They chose to stay quiet and collect paychecks instead while hazards were left mismanaged and no one was ever hired to handle anything. They murdered all those people with their silence.

[@dleon0902]

8. Vote wisely.

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

@@pearlangeline Nonsense. LAFD has had public education programs since the Bel Air fire. There is a 1962 film called 'Design for Disaster' with much of the mitigation above discussed. Homeowners and developers were not interested in anything that would 'harm neighborhood character' or 'reduce privacy/property values'.

[@AstroVanTribe]

This exact fire (in the Pacific Palisades) happened in 1961 - There is a 1962 documentary put out by the LAFD that explains everything that happened in an effort to prevent it in the future - Everything that happened January 9 happened in 1961 - The failures did not need to happen AGAIN....

[@kenporter614]

I think if the tax payers paid for fire protection they deserve a refund.

[@bryang3635]

Instead of saving tons of money to sue Donald Trump and wasting it on DEI, they need to be using that money to use that money to fight these fires and save lives. Gavin Nuisance needs to go.

[@greggh.748]

Bass and the city council is to, blame. The FD chief is defending his salary = a spineless pension grabber.

[@Show-cv4tx]

He's the LACoFD chief, Bass and LA City council does not affect his decisions and salary, that would be the LAFD. The LA County Board of Supervisors sets the funds for LACoFD. LAFD funds are set by LA City.

[@greggh.748]

@ My bad. I was thinking that the depts. were connected. That they all have the same goal in fire protection.

[@Hellocali1]

He messed up saying that the city needs to raise property taxes imo

[@banaloba5109]

That's not what he said.

[@Hellocali1]

@ yeah he did

[@veliatorrez6523]

Do not need more property tax just need smart people that know what has to be done. Not people wanting to line their pockets

[@CraigAndersonn]

This dude just said “don’t blame them blame me” dude you aren’t the one in charge of water your team didn’t have enough water to fight the fire brother

[@73blaster23]

GOT TO BE ON TOP THE OF SHIT!!! THEY KNEW CALI WAS GIONG TO GET UP TO 100MPH WINDS!!! THEY ALL DROPED THE BALL!!!

[@MinusEighty]

If you don't move to recall, and replace all of them, then you will just get more of the same.

[@emramirez7846]

@@73blaster23 That is UNTRUE. MAN cannot prepare for natural disasters! ALL THE PREPAREDNESS in the world isn't going to prepare for a HUGE earthquake either. Believing so is delusional.

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

@@73blaster23 The forecast was for 50-60 mph winds.

[@AerialEscapade]

Sounds like he's putting himself up as the scape goat. He was either told to do so, or is planning on setting back collecting that pension for the rest of his life.

[@gregcase5971]

I guess this event had a beverage sponsor

[@kc72186]

Everything is a business model. EVERYTHING.

[@ScottLehman-sp4tr]

Maybe you should build firehouses in all these housing developments instead of waiting for you to come from downtown area and you need to maintain your fire hydrants and your equipment as far as fire trucks plus do more control burns to get rid of dead weeds and brushes.

[@Frederickn]

They all needs to be held accountable

[@VictoriaBrumfield-h6m]

All the money spent in this State and they can't buy enough firetrucks

[@MinusEighty]

If nothing could have been done that day then how were feeble men in their 80's able to save several homes at a time with a garden hose?

[@kerrybarrera3410]

So true.

[@CrispyOkra]

Because it was several thousands homes in 100 mph winds.

[@MinusEighty]

@@CrispyOkra No it wasn't. Those wind speeds are complete BS. And you only need a couple of hundred firemen putting out spot fires to keep the neighborhood from burning.

[@MinusEighty]

@@CrispyOkra Show me one ring camera video that shows a 100 mph wind speed

[@CrispyOkra]

@@MinusEighty So you're to tell me that the multiple fire departments, residence and meteorologists got together to lie to you? 🙄

[@CloudSeedz]

Prepare for the worst , hope for the best, nothing’s impossible!

[@andrewczski1969]

😵‍💫

[@CloudSeedz]

1961 film “Design for Disaster” predicted this exact fire

[@williamkirby8092]

Was that film based on the Bel Air fire?

[@MinusEighty]

The difference is that the firemen actually fought that fire house to house and they only lost 458 homes. In this fire the fire department ran away

[@Ch4rlz_ThA_Princ3]

​@@MinusEighty like Uvalde: Fire Edition

[@MegaTriumph1]

So did a 007 movie a view to a kill.

[@daveveloz]

@@MinusEightySpunds like they could stand to recruit some brave new talent. I imagine you’ll be tossing your hat in the ring.

[@NYyankeeboi]

I just saw a 3 hour video of someones dash cam driving throughout the Palisades Tuesday night. I never saw a single fire truck.

[@MinusEighty]

These guys are just going to hold these meaningless meetings until the public is done yelling at them. Then they will go back to business as usual.

[@Sassyone-522]

We already pay enough damn taxes - they suggest more for LA Co Fire?

[@emramirez7846]

@@Sassyone-522 YES! Do you DO their job? Do you put your life on the line everyday to keep these cities free from harm? It's so easy to place blame on these men and women because who else are you going to blame? Maybe the residents WHO choose to live among the mountain areas should be more diligent and PREPARE for these types of situations. Did you keep an watch on the winds? SMFH!

[@Sassyone-522]

@@emramirez7846 Current funds have been misused & keep being misused - you must vote Democrat because of your reply - this is why CA’s troubles keep repeating over and over

[@Noneyabuiness]

No water, and defining the fire department and giving money to migrants, and not cleaning up kindling caused the fires.

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

Kindling? WTF you understand nothing. KINDLING?? The houses themselves and lush landscaping in the neighborhood were the fuel you dolt.

[@banaloba5109]

Once asylum seekers are granted the right to work, they lose their eligibility for government assistance.

[@JamesHorton-fo3yv]

The Palisades Fire is a City of Los Angeles Fire Department jurisdiction incident not Los Angeles County Fire Department jurisdiction.

[@CrispyOkra]

One in the same.

[@kc72186]

Yes, people need to understand the difference. The Castiac fire is a perfect example, LA county got on it quick and lost zero homes. The slow response to the Palisades fire needs to be investigated.

[@kc72186]

​@@CrispyOkra nope, 2 different agencies.

[@CrispyOkra]

@@kc72186 I stand corrected.

[@Show-cv4tx]

Parts of it made it to Malibu which is LACoFD jurisdiction and where this meeting was held

[@elandriver6596]

How many trucks were deadlined and for how long

[@kent6430]

Can’t put the blame on anyone except whoever started it and the officials who refuse to clear brush or provide water.

[@brucegordon4992]

Is it okay to blame the leadership of one department that sent the outgoing shift home when the other department held over the outgoing shift?

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

Clearing brush and supplying local water are not sufficient to stop a firestorm fed by 100 mph Santa Ana winds at 8% humidity.

[@brucegordon4992]

@@haroldlipschitz9301 I do not doubt there was going to be a fire. However could it have been kept smaller?

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

@ Unlikely given how the area was developed. Narrow winding roads are popular for neighborhood seclusion but useless as firebreaks. High value areas tend to have lush landscaping, which provides additional fuel in a wind-fed fire. Wildfire experts recommend minimum landscaping, or only desert plants, no tall trees, and wide roads. Maximum use of fire resistant building materials too, which was not the case. The homes that survived often had such materials.

[@KGB5910]

Don't forget about all of the broken down fire trucks.

[@Letyourcolorsblendwithmine]

"We've never had these winds" My grandmother told stories about the Santa Anna winds back when she lived there in the 1920's!

[@CloudSeedz]

1961 film “ design for disaster “

[@nannerz1994]

Yeah this is like a once in a lifetime event I bet your grandma's not alive anymore

[@greggh.748]

It was like 5-6 years ago, that we had winds like this. In San Dimas, It was crazy, hurricane wind-like conditions. No major fires. Until bum-fires under biden was a thing.

[@blsti503]

@@greggh.748 arent republicans massive on states rights? Why not blame poor bi-partisan leadership in Cali, that's the reason, not Biden. But I don't expect republicans to be smart, there's a reason the least educated parts of the country always vote red. Compare education maps per county to voting maps per county, one side is truly stupid.

[@CrispyOkra]

The Santa Ana have existed since at least the natives lived there. But, they're usually not 100 mph.

[@virginiazaragoza4926]

SUE WHO EVER IS RESPONSABLE😊

[@alexhein6386]

Fire department and Karen bass

[@TomSullivan-rx8mu]

Maybe cut the salary of your water guru that’s getting paid $750,000 a year maybe cut her salary in half

[@x-raycat323]

All that ocean water is not one drop was used on any flame 😰

[@robertbassett7937]

I thought of that too. Way too much fuel.Residents loved their bushes etc. NO CHANCE to put out all the fires. Better chance to stop a fire with millions gallons and hundreds of copters which California didn't or will never have in my humble opinion.

[@pteranodon6612]

It didn't matter anyway because the aircraft got grounded due to high winds.

[@user-yz1gh8rk3k]

Salt water corrodes equipment rendering it useless. Salt will destroy soils and buildings for decades.

[@TomSullivan-rx8mu]

Because half of the fire trucks are in your maintenance garage with no mechanics to repair them and you let your water reserves go dry and don’t tell the people that you were prepared

[@bimbi1946]

Where is Karen B and Newsome?

[@Juicyjesus69]

Bass has no ass left after trump chewed it off.And newscum didn't attend the meeting with trump because he knew his ass would have been chewed off TOO.Those two are hiding now because the public will not stop the ass chewing until they are fired

[@kimoclyde]

"We've never had these winds ". (Wind storm from 2011 has entered the chat)

[@JT-nu1oi]

And 1997 also! I'm in san gabriel 1997-2011-2025

[@dmystify1381]

🤷‍♀🤦‍♀ I just dont know anymore.

[@alexhein6386]

@@JT-nu1oithat’s In San Gabriel dude

[@c.s.everett1721]

True, in 2011 they were stronger, except there was no fire during that event.

[@pteranodon6612]

I think he meant: never had these winds during a fire.

[@tcsfq99]

BAD MANAGEMENT. WHERE IS 25+ BILLIONS MISSING PATHETIC ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO GO. CORUPTION AT ITS FINEST.

[@JannDeLaCruz-ff2be]

Increasing property taxes is bot the answer. The CA Government needs to spend the high tax $’s we pay on our basic needs, bot their pet projects

[@niilespunkari8832]

There is door bell footage from Pacific Paladise where one can see the fire arriving, and burning the city to ashes, and no emergency vehicle ever arrives to help or assist; and the much talked about winds don't seem to been that bad that day, according these footages.

[@lostsoul5479]

IT LOOKS AS IF NO FIRE DEPT WAS THER BUT THEY TRIED THE WWINDS WERE TOO SSTRONG AND THERE WWERE CARS BLOCKING THE FIRETRUCKS FROM PUTTING THE FIRE OUT IN PACIFIC PALISADES FIRE.

[@lostsoul5479]

SORRY FROM MY CHEEP LAPTOP

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

Very ignorant. There is wind data recorded from all over the region. ONE doorbell camera is not any kind of data point. Wind action can be highly localized. Maybe there was a wall of shrubs next to the property reducing wind on that particular slice of the block.

[@craigthorn3190]

Do the math... No air support, sufficient equipment and personnel for normal operating parameters, but hellish winds of firebrands carrying embers miles in seconds and still there are those who cast stones at heroes... Shameful.

[@drbright6583]

But Los Angeles has enough money to fund a stupid high-speed boondoggle to Las Vegas.

[@ParizBae833]

They did do all they can.. An yet they did put the fire out very fast.. Thank u firemen for saving life's n everything..

[@kennethlubach3815]

Bass and Newsom need to take notes from this man. This is how you lead.

[@wasabiginger6993]

They are soulless beings.

[@sal19967]

Bass and Newsom 🖕nuff said

[@mercenarygrip]

Thank God we got the hydrants painted with rainbows in time.

[@dmystify1381]

😂😂...there is a snowflake here in the comments that would be quite pleased.

[@knine8154]

5 trucks were sent to the entire city of Palisades perimeter after the fire had gone out of control. They wont cover that.

[@thehonesttruth8808]

Avg LA firefighter pay is $300k per year…yes, there is not enough taxation…that must be the problem

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

Fake. Range is $71K-$130K, DOE

[@michaeltabanao8092]

California Transparency 🤔

[@michaeltabanao8092]

​@@haroldlipschitz9301🤔 Actual overtime, medical , pension,

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

@ Huh?

[@pteranodon6612]

@@haroldlipschitz9301 They make hella OT.

[@petecacheiro9320]

LA County Fire Chief talks about increasing taxes. I would agree that resources were limited, but this is not the first rodeo. Pre-planning is a must. Increasing taxes in not the answer. They have plenty of money allocated yearly. Use it wisely and pre-plan with a unified response.

[@sierraastrology9975]

Please stop taking water from inyo county

[@serfdogg]

115 mil gallon reservoir drained since Feb 3.5 mi above Palisades.

[@CrispyOkra]

It hadn't rained since last April. It would have been been empty or near empty anyway. The tanks that fed the gravity fed hydrants were filled a few days before the fire. Regardless, you can't stand in front of a wall of flame coming at you with 80-100 mph winds.

[@serfdogg]

@CrispyOkra You're wrong it was drained because the cover needed repair. The firemen said there were million gallon tanks unfilled that contributed to the the Palisades hydrants running dry.

[@serfdogg]

@CrispyOkra 🙂 I think you're wrong but it's being investigated so we'll all find out together.

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

Reservoir is no use in 15 hours of 50+ mph winds. Water only works if you can get it ON the fire. Try doing that in high wind. Idiotic

[@serfdogg]

@@haroldlipschitz9301 Granted but to think that you don't need water to fight the fire is also idiotic

[@sourdoughbornsourdoughbred4712]

Do they all need a little drink like that? Paid by taxes. Why doesn't everyone in the room get one? I'm sure they can go a few minutes without water to drink. Just shows how clueless they are.

[@emramirez7846]

It is utterly disappointing for anyone to be placing the blame on the firefighters for homes burning down. In a perfect world, there would be enough police officers for every person in this state and a firetruck for every perimeter, BUT THERE ISN'T and to point fingers at these men who were out there EVERY SINGLE DAY fighting these fires with NO SLEEP, NOTHING TO EAT, some lost their own homes , away from their families, and putting their lives on the line for nearly the last 2 weeks is diabolical and SHAME ON YOU ALL! For that matter, the question can be reversed on you; what did YOU do to prepare for winds this bad that we haven't seen in years, let alone fires?! WHAT DID YOU DO?! Be grateful you have your life, your animals (some of you), and the ability to breathe. My goodness. We ALL feel for you, especially those of us in the San Gabriel Valley community. To blame these men and women is simply WRONG! I send my prayers to you all.

[@RickStorni]

Raising property taxes will do no good as the top brass in the city will absorb it getting big raises and bonuses. This happens all the time especially with the school districts as every time the raise my property taxes due to some bond the the voters approve nothing happens and the schools don’t do anything but give the top administration big hefty raises.

[@PestiLencE638]

Theyre busy with their DEI policies

[@500KLA]

Why was the Santa Ynez reservoir closed/out of order? Why does Gavin Newsome, Karen Bass, LAFD no one has an answer for this one?

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

The reservoir is irrelevant. Water has to get ON the fire to put it out. Can't do that in 15 hrs of howling winds at 8% humidity

[@500KLA]

@ I understand that 100 mph winds. But you’re saying Santa Ynez with 100 million gallons would not have helped at all ?

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

@ After the winds died down, not much. The issue was not water supply, it was water pressure. When people evacuated, many left their water mains ON. Once houses were burned/damaged, pipes were leaking everywhere. This reduced total system pressure. At that point fire crews would have to bring in tanker trucks anyway. Hydrants would be (and were) useless.

[@500KLA]

@@haroldlipschitz9301 oh okay great thanks. I think that’s more than what the Mayor of LA has explained and Gavin Newsome. Appreciate your response

[@VictoriaBrumfield-h6m]

It's not their fault it's whoever cut their budget Mayor

[@nwmetalbug]

Blame whoever you want just dont ask me to pay for it.

[@kc72186]

The damage control by these incompetent officials is pathetic. Admit your mistakes and move on to fixing the problems. STOP MAKING EXCUSES.

[@brianplunkett4002]

It’s a good question, but the answer comes with a tough reality, you can’t depend on city leadership. Also, I’m not defending the lack of accountability, but with a combination of high winds, and poor planning. The fires were very hard to stop.

[@lynnd6677]

I knew it will come to this. At the end there is only one woman to blame, her name is Santa Anna,

[@niilespunkari8832]

I do not believe this 100 mph winds, maybe some measuring station at some mountaintop had that wind, but there is no footage which shows hurricane winds

[@MinusEighty]

@@niilespunkari8832 Exactly. The ring door bell footage doesn't show that strong of winds.

[@hkgat8632]

People had best know that you can't stop, much less, put out fires like that. The wind can boost oxygen levels increasing the fire temperatures up to 2200F- 3000F degrees. Your hose streams are being broken up and like your helo drops turning into steam before and immediately upon reaching the fire. Pray!

[@MinusEighty]

Then how did homeowners stop it with garden hoses?

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

@@MinusEighty They got lucky, maybe 10-15 min break in the wind. Or perhaps they had a pump from their swimming pool.

[@mariadaniel-y8w]

Drinking Elite Water

[@michaelcrow9732]

A large amount of your fleet is sitting on a lot waiting to rot due to ignorance and greed! But you already know that!

[@goodluckgoofy3354]

WELL SAID! 👏👏

[@freddiecarr7602]

hOW ABOUT THE FIRE BOATS? Too much too ask someone to think outside the box?

[@williamkirby8092]

I watched vids of the boats- they do have a large stream, dont know why they let the homes on the sand burn

[@niilespunkari8832]

Yes. lol

[@PeachCake-zs6gn]

We should have used some fire boats, we could have at least saved some of the PCH homes. I didn't know about this until I watched," Using Seawater To Fight Fires in SoCal | Why No Water | Fireboats | Seawater Myths!" the title here on youtube.

[@nannerz1994]

How are those going to get on top of a mountain?

[@PeachCake-zs6gn]

@@nannerz1994 If you watch the video I recommended, hoses from the boats can go pretty far into the land by linking trucks together. They could have at least saved PCH homes easily.

[@ChaseProphets]

Solid response

[@JS-zb1vv]

No fire department in the world has enough to put these fires out . The entire state of California could have sent every fire truck and it wouldn’t have been even remotely close. But you know what would help . Remove the dry vegetation from around your property! Use hard scapes! Build with concrete and metal roofs ! If you want to live in those areas!

[@c.s.everett1721]

Pretty much.

[@KGB5910]

Should always be prepared for the absolute worst. Not hope and pray that it doesn't happen because you want the money for something else. Soo sad

[@KGB5910]

Seen a video this morning of a lady that found one of the rockets used to start the fires. It didn't ignite apparently and the authorities where there investigating.

[@stevenschwizer627]

Go look at the condition of the firehouses and that’s what they think you.

[@elsaint7657]

send the la people to Canada.

[@andrewczski1969]

"We did everything we could to make sure every possible derelict action could be taken, to ensure everything got incinerated."

[@pteranodon6612]

It's like the public doesn't want to accept the cold hard truth. The high winds made the fire UNSTOPPABLE.

[@HectorFlores-tb5ow]

Yea tax us more huh

[@greggkupec]

Why? I’m not buying your excuses. You could have done better with proper planning! Come on!

[@unkorichie2029]

Did you not hear what he said? They held the off going shifts, doubling their man power. Their fully staffed department was deployed to Pacific Palisades which is LA City FD's territory. There are simply not enough resources. This Fire Chief is a real leader who is telling them the buck stops with him, not like the DEI lesbian running LA City FD who points the blame to everybody but her own management.

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

Oh sure, internet hero is going to lecture professionals on PROPER PLANNING for 15 hrs of 80-100 mph mountain firestorm. Suuuuuuure

[@michaeltabanao8092]

All priorities......they started a mass hiring on folks to handle homlessness, were did that money come form......State, City, County Shell 🐚 Game

[@denniswhite9721]

The 1% property tax is on the highest appraised home values in the country.

[@cintroberts6614]

Karen is not there because the adults are talking. She is now required to just sit in another room with her mental peers making things out of playdough and macaroni.

[@James-v5d1k]

Sleeping at the wheel how u like living in California now let Hollywood rebuild California lol

[@68BigSherm]

Taxes are higher than almost anywhere, and this bum says its not enough.

[@CrispyOkra]

State taxes are high to fund the state from the lack of federal funding. California pays the most into the federal tax system while receiving the least per capita. They receive approximately $12 person in federal funding, while small red states that contribute little receive as much as $10,000 per person. Maybe they should withhold federal taxes to fund themselves.

[@68BigSherm]

Wouldn't California's situation be better without three million illegals? What if homelessness and unemployment weren't so common? How much better would it be if more Californians paid taxes?

[@HJ-jy7fw]

The reservoir would have helped.

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

Not one bit. At least not till the winds died down 15-18 hours later.

[@HPBLJONES]

Can we at least wait till the fires are out before we point fingers!

[@Ch4rlz_ThA_Princ3]

The fires got so bad in the first place because no one was willing to point fingers at themselves and say "Im accountable for this", and then prove it.

[@MinusEighty]

The fires have been out for weeks...

[@michaeltabanao8092]

It will be forgotten just like NC.....Dems already construction next disaster.....the orange 🍊 guy 👦 is working to shut all their deviant plans down....and calling them out.....

[@williamkirby8092]

IMPORTANT- At the first press conference on the 8th- Crowley said something like " the fire was just 10 acres and before you knew it it was 500 acres" and all I thought was imagine if they had positioned fire trucks early? None of this would have happened

[@lostsoul5479]

THE 100 MPH WINDS DID THE DAMEGE MOVING EMBERS IT WAS too much for any human yet alONE the entire LAFD

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

Impossible to say. Water has to get ON the fire to put it out. Hard to do in 80-100 mph winds for over 15 hrs

[@mdhen4]

Part of the lack of trucks is due to a lack of mechanics, which is due to misplaced priorities.

[@Cindy-mk8nh]

I noticed there’s no Native American people in the audience. Maybe they knew Mother Nature elements can’t be controlled and Biblical?❤

[@jimgregory6208]

Anybody say forest management?

[@bosanpisan]

It's the Governors mistake. Not the firefighters. They done a good job there.

[@bobtietz1841]

This is not the Firefighters fault you have to understand the political defunded them and funded their environment agent and lack of infrastructure to pressurize the water system. This was a firestorm but political mitigation funding could have prevented this or limited the this mass conflagration

[@HAPPYGREENMERCHANT]

Now with the rebuilding process, there's opportunities to troubleshoot and make sure this never happens again

[@dansanders4402]

Why no brush clearing? No water in the hydrants? No water tankers in position ahead of the fires. Seems like no one anticipated this disaster.

[@svetlanabykov2865]

Have you seen those fancy watter bottles? Cov ered by our taxes?

[@BobWadeGuitar]

The billions went to homeless hotels instead of upgrading the water system. It took 45 minutes to get to the Palisade Fire.

[@h.briseno8597]

That’s their solution? Higher property taxes? An investigation/ audit needs to be done on their spending because Los Angeles is in the red. Poor management all around!

[@Jdiddy-dt9yj]

Homeowners saved more homes then the FF did

[@AstroGremlinAmerican]

Santa Anas gusting to 100 mph are not controllable. This was a fire tsunami.

[@johnrobi0]

Typically, about 10 to 25 Santa Ana wind events occur annually. A Santa Ana wind can blow from one to seven days, with an average wind event lasting three days. The longest recorded Santa Ana event was a 14-day wind in November 1957. It's been going on for quite some time.

[@MinusEighty]

Then how were homeowners able to put out spot fires with a garden hose?

[@MinusEighty]

Hundreds of security cameras and none show 100 mph winds...

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

@@MinusEighty Fake

[@enriquezuniga7338]

This is a joke! We pay the most taxes than any dam State in the U.S and that fire chief clown said that if they raised property taxes they would have more funds! WTF! Who is managing the tax dollars then?

[@RM-uf1rh]

Why do they keep talking to us that way? Never mind I actually know the answer but this we’ve never had. These wins is complete bullshit. I grew up here and I’ve seen wins uproot trees in mass. We have had these wins, but there’s a lot of things that we haven’t had before that we do now most you know what those are most. Do you know what those changes are most? Do you know that some of you and the people I believe we never had these wins before probably don’t.

[@c.s.everett1721]

There were winds in 2011 that were stronger. The thing that was different was that no fire started. If a fire started in the same place in 2011 it would have been worse - just luckily no fire started.

[@jesusfelix2605]

Budget cuts, budget increase, full reservoir wouldn’t have made a difference. LAFD is a class 1 department you cannot be more prepared and staffed then a class 1 department.

[@michaeltabanao8092]

From its inception to about 2012......From coming up with 911 to DEI..... Shot Crews still hold tradition on qualifications and standards since 1940s

[@Show-cv4tx]

This is the LACoFD chief not LAFD

[@llcooljay66]

Ducking lies I hate firefighter leadership

[@dmystify1381]

will never change....world-wide.

[@alexhein6386]

Fire department always lie

[@reptaloid]

SHE SHOULD GIVE UP HER HOUSE WITH RESPECT TO EVERYBODY THAT LOST THEIRS 😮

[@rolandgelinas1412]

Why are there over 100 fire trucks off the road in disrepair?

[@pauloszetarinielli69508]

If you voted for Bass or Gavin-- start there and with yourselves, not these Firefighters who risked their lives and lost their homes, cmon man.

[@polyjb1]

You cant stop intentional government lasers, especially without water.

[@danhelwig]

Everything except water. For a year.