The Real Reason Why Darvin Ham and Frank Vogel Were Fired | DOUG GOTTLIEB SHOW

DOUG GOTTLIEB SHOW - Doug Gottlieb offers some insight into why Frank Vogel and Darven Ham are no longer head coaches of the Phoenix Suns and LA Lakers, respectively.
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[@mdquaglia]

You seriously expect ANY player to side with a coach and NOT LeBron??? You're a fool!

[@fudgematthew33]

Yep. LeBron will smile in your face, then get you traded behind closed doors.

[@waysofzen]

Doug, to be fair... Lakers didn't just hire Darvin Ham... they hired a first year coach and all the growing pains that come with it... if a team signs off on a first year coach, they are investing the coach long-term... in this case, a new head coach got fired for not being a veteran head coach, lol

[@thetarheel2010j]

That still doesn’t excuse being late to your own coaches meeting and not watching game film. He was in over his head

[@mikeg8221]

@@thetarheel2010j Doug’s not a reporter and no reporter is reporting this

[@waysofzen]

@@thetarheel2010j I can imagine that any NEW coach would be in over his head coaching Lebron/AD... so why hire a rookie coach to begin with knowing a rookie head coach would be in over his head?? That was either a dumb hiring or a dumb firing.

[@thetarheel2010j]

@@mikeg8221 I’ve read various reports bout Austin Reeves not caring for Ham. I can think of many reasons why this isn’t being reported.

[@thetarheel2010j]

@@waysofzen even if that’s the case… being a first time HC showing up for meetings late and not looking at game film isn’t an excuse… that’s lazy. He was an assistant coach first so he’s seen how day to day things work

[@truthteller5521]

Looks like Klutch sent Gottlieb a check.

[@blaketindle4703]

Yep either that or he just wants to be on the UnKlutch payroll.

[@christianpaul-cp6746]

Another guy who sold his journalistic integrity 👎 What a bunch of BS!

[@user-EB2016]

Now Doug is on the payroll?! 😂😂😂 yall hate objectivity.

[@MWTA312]

That doesn’t make any sense at all so you basically he’s reporting something that doesn’t fit the narrative you want to hear

[@shariffroberts3193]

There is no player smarter than kobe bryant and lebron has never been more prepared than kobe in any fashion ..just go look at when in the Olympics lebron team lost and they had bring in kobe

[@saeedsimmons6638]

Lebron and Carmelo were bench players and didn’t play much when they lost so that’s not accurate. Go look.

[@cjx5049]

@@saeedsimmons6638it doesn’t matter to these guys, they clearly don’t know basketball

[@Illtechnica]

Are you seriously comparing a 30-year-old, 12-season veteran Kobe Bryant in 2008, to a 4-year, 23-year-old LeBron?! What is WRONG with you?!

[@christianpaul-cp6746]

Exactly.

[@keithjenkins6034]

There is literally audio/video tape of Darwin Ham drawing up a play, and LeBron repeatedly saying. "I got it, I got it, I got it, give me the board, give me the board" In which the board was taken away from the coach, and placed into LeBron James hands and LeBron James Drew up the play. Doug your yappin

[@mado3623]

I peeped that video yesterday that was so damn wrong to do that I’m sure other players have done that but blatantly clear like that on air with those people watching no wonder why people can’t stand lebron he needs to learn to be humble I mean damn

[@stephenmillsaps4643]

Who cares whstvyou think clown smh ​@@mado3623

[@abzda1700]

What about the clip of him on the bench wasting a time out basically giving a motivational speech instead of drawing up a play show me one clip of darvin draw up a play our role players never get easy buckets

[@abzda1700]

@@mado3623darvin ham need to learn how to coach

[@keithjenkins6034]

@@abzda1700 okay but what does that have to do with what I said? Oh nothing? Will all right then. I guess Darvin ham didn't coach them to the mid-season tournament which they dropped a freaking Banner for now all of a sudden it means nothing.

[@clearlybehind]

I got the feeling that he was making up stuff as he went on, spinning it more and more.

[@thetarheel2010j]

It’s funny how y’all question this… when Rui said early in the season that they didn’t know what they were doing. Based on Ham’s rotations and lack of adjustments, I honestly believe he didn’t watch game tape because he showed up in games with lineups, rotations, and lack of adjustments….

[@ghostrida4]

Damnnnn somebody must have gotten a "LeBron Check" in the mail....🤦🏿‍♂️soooo your sources are better than all the other sports Media ppl out here blaming LeBron... u know more than them?!?! 😂😂😂😂 yea ok....🙄

[@Illtechnica]

But of course the "nameless sources" denigrating LeBron MUST be correct, right?? You can't tear down his accolades, so you go after his character. How your significant other can stand you with such a mentality is utterly baffling. God bless them...

[@djdoncruse1952]

I don’t wanna say but boy your making one guy look good & the other guy looked very unprepared . Anybody understand where I’m going with this.

[@eddievangundy4510]

Klutch?

[@abzda1700]

@@eddievangundy4510you believe doug is on klutch

[@christianpaul-cp6746]

Definitely klutch

[@blaketindle4703]

Poor LeBron just never has a good enough coach.😢

[@keithrochester4671]

Him n deanglo didn't get along

[@fudgematthew33]

Wait...so the Lakers didn’t know that Darvin Ham wasn’t a grinder or a film nerd before they hired him? I call cap. They made it to the WCF last season. Nobody can tell me that Ham was just riding LeBron's coattails the whole time.

[@maurice2245]

Why not they only beat 2 teams the WCF

[@Illtechnica]

And David Blatt made it to the NBA Finals in 2015, and was fired the next season 20 games over .500. And he was apparently so "undeserving" of being fired, he never coached in the NBA again. Imagine that. Darvin getting to the WCF is mesningless. Teams can have a level of success in spite of the coach in certain instances. It has been demonstrated.

[@blank71]

Man I'm not trying to hear none of that every 2 years they need a new coach... It's always the coach falt not the payers

[@blaketindle4703]

LeBron and KD had them fired.

[@anandabaruah2262]

🔥

[@clintwarner3008]

Coaches don't pick the roster and they're expected to change the franchise in 1-2yrs. It's not reasonable.

[@thetarheel2010j]

Dammmmnnnnnn…. I’m usually hard on Doug but this is the first time I’m hearing this news about Ham

[@ghostrida4]

It's CAP......literally NOBODY has said this .....that's when u gotta question the validity of what he's saying. LeBron's are quick to cut media checks😂 remember that

[@eddievangundy4510]

Wonder what Gottlieb's sources are.

[@thetarheel2010j]

@@ghostrida4 why would Doug say that?? I don’t think he’s a fan of LeBron… the Austin Reeves stories have been out but nobody dared to report it because it’s Reeves

[@MrCopacetic23]

It’s cap when we know for a fact that the man he claims is the most prepared barely practices. What he says about Ham may be true but he isn’t the only one unprepared in that building.

[@maurice2245]

@@MrCopacetic23barely practices what the hell are you talking about

[@Amazen15]

This must be why he had AR n Rui on the bench

[@Dryltd]

I don't believe you. Why wasn't this reported during the season when people were ripping the coach for all the wrong reasons.

[@keederatwell2340]

So then why did the Lakers fire Vogel? Seems like he was the perfect fit for LBJ.........you're not making any sense.......

[@maurice2245]

The Westbrook situation

[@blaketindle4703]

@@maurice2245 And who demanded the Lakers sign Westbrick? Oh that’s right LeBron!

[@maurice2245]

@@blaketindle4703 nobody demanded anything regardless though those 2 seasons after the bubble led to the firing of Vogel

[@maurice2245]

@@blaketindle4703 if you saying Lebron and AD supported bringing in Westbrook and probably spoke up for him at the end of the day they didn’t have the final decision and everyone in the organization agreed to it at the time so all are responsible for being wrong !! It’s been other moves that Lebron wanted and the organization didn’t oblige so he hasn’t had the power to demand anything nor has he ever threatened to leave if he didn’t get his way,by the way Lebron supported trading for AD and that worked out just fine so if you going to say he got one wrong give him credit for getting one right

[@mikeg8221]

If this is your first time hearing this(mine as well) its probably not true especially since no legit reporter has reported this and that he lied about everybody hating hating Russell when Reaves and DLO were just seen golfing together and AD doing Russell’s podcast. Stop lying Doug

[@waysofzen]

the suns owner wants things now now now... but there are no shortcuts to success in life... there is dumb luck, but no short cuts unfortunately... so no, I don't agree with the firing of Vogel

[@BlackWolfSportsTalk]

It’s crazy how many of you defend Ham lol. Did you not watch the games. This guy literally tried to make Reddish the starter over Reaves or Prince who’s never been a legit starter over Vando and Rui.

[@sunsfever83]

My god, fox sports and pumping up LeBum. I think he left something on your chin.

[@m.s.2479]

Lebron is the GOAT

[@sunsfever83]

@@m.s.2479 ​​Yeah, the GOAT of any job doesn't have to convince people he is. They also don't have to beg people to vote for them. It would be natural. See Michael Jordan. Lejoke is a player that has been around for 20 years and longevity is not the same as the GOAT. He is a good basketball player at best, a league propped up player at the most.

[@m.s.2479]

@@sunsfever83 Lebron never begged me to vote for him, and he is the GOAT

[@nineteenvegas]

whoever your source is for the Lakers Doug…they took you for a ride.

[@m.s.2479]

Says some nobody in his mom's basement, with a runny nose

[@eliasarechiga1927]

You heard? Hummmmm.

[@Dbo_Sports]

Doug Gottlieb is unfortunately Part of the problem now in the media. Who got Darvin Ham hired? Wasn’t he on the Lakers staff already? Who do you think signed off on his hire. Nah it wasn’t Lebron, it was someone else. Nobody knew that he didn’t watch tape. The excuse making continues.

[@lucasanfilippo5370]

Darven?!

[@FoxSportsRadioOfficial]

It will be fixed

[@dwaynelee1789]

I am confused why are we kicking Darvon Ham’s back in again. Lebron and Bronny will get their next coach fired. KD ( Coach Killer#2) should not be consulted regarding a coach. Book KD and Beal were always hurt. These are the facts.

[@maurice2245]

Because Ham wasn’t a good coach

[@AR-ke8wg]

💯 darvin scam had to go. So many idiotic decisions, 3 guard lineup etc disaster... coming from someone who watched 80% of games this season. Scam was frustrating

[@GLENISgotastorytotell]

How do we any of this stuff Doug is saying is true? Lol

[@realdarylt]

Bron got Ham fired

[@m.s.2479]

Lebron is the GOAT

[@Blackbolt-411]

Doug stop it . What did the get Darvin .. because of Lebron signed to Klutch . So the lakers fired Darvin without notifying Lebron and Klutch? Sorry Doug your wrong

[@kyronalexander4735]

Darvin is not a good coach

[@jeromedavis9942]

Your wrong Lebron helped get Darvin Ham fired

[@abzda1700]

Helped him get hired too

[@oroebuck]

The Lakers should rehire Vogel.

[@jj9442]

It was a very poor hire from the start. Not to belittle Ham, but I didn’t think he was very smart…street smarts, sure, but not a guy of high intellect. Additionally, he’s gruff and aloof, so culturally the fit with the org was never going to work. Certainly LBJ signed off on the termination as any superstar would, but there didn’t appear to be counterbalancing opinion to retain him or any sort. BTW, I’m not a Lakers fan. This was a trainwreck from the start despite the IST title and 2023 conference finals run.

[@rodneypoole6021]

Lakers, like everyone else, knew when hiring a 1st year coach, there is going to be a little bit to learn and some growing pains. Lefaker definitely, 100% got Darvin Ham fired. We all seen the demonstrative negative behavior towards the coach. It was obvious to everyone Lebrawd wanted him gone, now he's gone ... and that folks, is the truth.

[@andrewwhite5856]

This must be Kevin Durant burner account

[@stephenmillsaps4643]

Wrong clown your truth

[@QuestionAuthority-pn3km]

Then why was he at Austin's Olympic games liar i hope rich paul is paying you good to lie on a man that's already fired

[@Pimping9167]

Darvin ham is a klutch sports client and got no love smh

[@abzda1700]

No he’s not you can google his agency

[@maurice2245]

Why does everyone believe that

[@Blackbolt-411]

I don’t believe Doug .. and Lebron doesn’t watch film like that nor do they practice .. Josh

[@m.s.2479]

Says a minimum wage worker

[@nineteenvegas]

@@m.s.2479 you’re a LeBron BOT, go get a real job

[@m.s.2479]

@@nineteenvegas GOAT James bruh. Get over it

[@maurice2245]

During the regular season most teams practice very little because you playing games basically every other night

[@raystroman4473]

First time I agree with Doug it’s lazy analysis to just say oh lebron or Durant got them fired

[@Maxrepfitgm]

What if it's true? The truth is what it is if in fact that's the case.

[@MWTA312]

@@Maxrepfitgmthen come with some proof from hardcore investigating and get some people who works with the organization on record not just throwing out opinions and innuendo

[@MattMSI805]

All trash. More excuses for LeBron. Dudes had more coaches than any other player.

[@abzda1700]

Kobe literally had more coaches then bron google is your friend

[@dlrichardson56]

this is funny bcuz doug main man rick Bucher is saying something different. as well as byron scott. who to believe..?

[@eddievangundy4510]

I'll take Bucher and Scott.

[@maurice2245]

Scotts not a reporter or working in the Lakers organization

[@davidgolfer]

Propoganda... Darvin Ham hit piece!!!

[@eliasarechiga1927]

Bron overrated

[@AlexSmith-lj1ty]

Doug is the first person on KZbin I ever saw that had more dislikes than likes. Obviously this was right before those numbers started being hidden. I haven’t watched any of this video. Just here to say Doug is trash.

[@genotaylor439]

P

[@scarecrow66ab]

Lebron is not as bright as you say. He had 245 turnovers for the lakers 70 more than AR which was second on the team. He is the leading all time NBA leader in turnovers with 5211 and counting. Compare to Kobe with 4010. Lebron led the lakers in turnovers in the playoffs. Turnovers is the worst stat to lead in.

[@MWTA312]

Kobe played a lot less games with a lot less assists

[@jjordan6066]

Doug sounds like he’s been bought and paid for.