Fr. John Behr - Discussing "On the Incarnation" Talk 1

A discussion on St. Athanasius' masterpiece, On the Incarnation that took place at the Orthodox School of Theology at Trinity College in Toronto.
Lecture starts at: 15:00 :)
Talk 1 & 2: Fr. John Behr (Dean of St. Vladimir's Orthodox Theological Seminary)
Talk 3: Dr. George Bebawi (Director Emeritus, The Institute for Orthodox Christian Studies, Cambridge University)
Talk 4: Prof. Richard Schneider (Trinity College and St. Vladimir's Orthodox Theological Seminary)
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[@bartimaeus4074]

Starts at 15:00

[@bobk1845]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[@gregoryglavinovich9259]

You guys spoke for 15 minutes 12 seconds BEFORE the invited Speaker began ??????? That's a long time to wait

[@dragonfiredoomlava7220]

Thanks😊

[@KgomotsoPooe24]

Started reading St. Athanasius today and I was blown away. I am even more blown away by Fr. John’s interpretation. Truly illuminating. 😭 God bless you Father!

[@BradJersakauthor]

Athanasius' "On the Incarnation" is essential reading for anyone who dares venture a word about Christology and the Incarnation. Fr. John Behr is the key steward of Athanasius' vision. His work, "The Mystery of Christ," is probably the most important work in current Christology today. I look forward to the rest of these lectures.

[@christopherbaldwin7875]

@Bradjersak Just started reading this book with my pastors church last week. I’ve also heard you mention it before. My wife and I just handed out 10 of your “Jesus shows us” books. You were kind enough to sign several for some and Eden wrote images she had during her prayer time. Your work has made a huge impact on my reconstruction. Bless you. You should be getting some candles soon.

[@thestraightroad305]

Fr. Behr is truly a great reader. I could listen to him read for hours.

[@d0ntbeevil]

Not for the faint of heart! :O . My head hurts! But at times I caught glimpses of light that make me hope there will be more...

[@rossanderson5243]

I feel the cross in terms of resurrection is passing from death to life, and in terms of love The Father so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son.

[@grahamspruill1456]

This is so helpful - thank you!

[@nicolalairdon2625]

Father John makes Athanasius so easy to understand. His translation is second to none. Also inviting us to translate for ourselves, not just read his, he included the greek text also! In the book (His translation of On the Incarnation- St. Vlad press) The greatest theologian and teacher of this age.

[@mannytorrez2138]

Deep and beautiful

[@oceanmachine1906]

Not a Christian but great lecture. Orthodoxy and the church fathers are definitely more intellectually stimulating (than other forms of Christianity) even if I disagree and disbelieve in it

[@paul11magdy]

Please Become Orthodox

[@Anna-mc3ll]

Many thanks!

[@ziontheelder1697]

39:11 - pre-incarnate modern term

[@GFSHS3]

43:33 Q.4 part one of the quote: we are created to use our minds to contemplate God - as soon we contemplate our bodies,we fall in desire to worship our bodies

[@GFSHS3]

20:20 Q.1 - two book,( Contingenty and Incarnation) addressing the previous work

[@Mark-dz6dq]

The first Adam and Jesus being the second Adam. Here ... we should Look at Jesus as the First one .... From the Beginning ✨️ The cross is then God's signature displayed threw Jesus as to His true love towards us from the beginning in his Word ... Awesome! 😊

[@GFSHS3]

54:00 Q.6 The order of the Church

[@ramezaziz2336]

It's amazing how Fr. John Behr is able to, very perceptibly, harvest all those deep meanings from St. Athanasius' words, yet still miss his blindingly obvious miaphysite understanding of the nature of Christ when he says things like "created us by our saviour Jesus Christ.

[@Josh-hp2gg]

Can you go further in-depth by what you mean? I'm oriental Orthodox, I'm just not understanding you're train of thought.

[@ramezaziz2336]

@@Josh-hp2gg It's not that deep, honestly. Just when St Athanasius says that phrase, he is clearly in his head not separating the two natures of Christ. He is simply swimming in the sea of the pre-Chalcedonian, pre Nestorian ancient church's understanding of the indivisable union of the two natures of Christ. Because while phyically the man Jesus did not exist when man was created, once the "Word became flesh" we must not conceptualise Him in a diaphysite way. The early Church didn't. To me it's jumping out of the text and I'm nothing compared to Fr John Behr.

[@ziontheelder1697]

48:48

[@gregoryglavinovich9259]

You guys spoke for 15 minutes 12 seconds BEFORE the invited Speaker began ??????? That's a long time to wait...

[@TheDareD3vil]

It’s called an introduction to a very significant speaker…

[@GFSHS3]

51:40 Q 5 looking all of the creation in Christ The cross uniteds and the cross separates

[@elizabethshaw734]

New subscriber.

[@GFSHS3]

22:50 Q.2 - never mentioned Arious - All Idolatry has been put to end - Christ bring peace,( on the cross), not Constantine...this is the part one of the work, But the next one is the "He who ascended the cross is Word of God"- apology for the cross

[@d0ntbeevil]

This is a simplistic question maybe, but did suggest that Athanasius in fact views the Incarnation as more consequential than trying to determine what "type of atonement" we ought to believe in?

[@brettscotland889]

I would say so.

[@sarahangeleski2027]

Yes.

[@thestraightroad305]

Just beginning to study Orthodoxy, but from what I gather, that is close to what it is! That is a stunning paradigm shift from Protestant-especially reformed-theology. It is so very very consequential to ones understanding of salvation.

[@cassiopeia4672]

@@thestraightroad305 oh. Such a big shift. May The Lord help u😘🙏

[@MrPawPaw]

If I may ask re The Mystery of Christ book. Which author is he referring too. There's a handful of books with this title. Oops nvm. I jumped the gun. Fr Behr I take it. Merry Christmas

[@GFSHS3]

35:10 Q.3 He created human being through our Savior Jesus Christ - bringing Adam as an example

[@kostaskladakis8938]

assange has become a priest

[@ziontheelder1697]

44:22 - man preferred evil