Frame Size and Shape Matter, But YOU Matter More!

This is perhaps the most important lesson we’ve ever done. Yes, we cover choosing a frame and then designing a set of lenses for high minus powers and working with the lab to obtain the best result possible, but there is a much bigger lesson to be learned as we look at our profession through the lens of one particular customer.
Technically opticians must choose the appropriate frame and then, with the help of the lab, design the best possible lenses to place in that frame. Optician training includes frame selection and lens design. We include a recorded call to the lab covering the lens material choice, free form design, non glare coatings and the importance of frame shape. More importantly, we look at the implications of one customer’s experience on the profession.
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In addition to the digital line, we still offer conventional surfacing, including glass. Maintaining traditional equipment gives our customers vastly more flexibility in their dispensing, particularly when it comes to more difficult prescriptions.
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[@aafillon]

Thank you for the content you put out. I'm an ABOC optician/lab tech in the DMV area and I absolutely can't stand all the baloney and fluff business minded people try to push on consumers. Your videos answer a lot of those hard questions I can't really seem to get an answer from anywhere else and its a nice breath of fresh air!

[@LaramyKOptical]

aafillon, OK gotta ask, DMV? To a NJ boy that means Department of Motor Vehicles... John

[@matthewbalas5610]

Best thing to do with a RX that high is to find the smallest frame that fits you. Rounder edges are good because they will look more symmetrical. Ive been doing this 20 years. Rectangle shapes will give you harder and sharper edges. Definitely look for softer shapes.

[@balotaify]

Hi John, your videos are great, as an Optician I always try to explain that to the customers with that kind of prescription, but not always I get good response because somebody else didn't tell them about that, just recommend the thinnest lenses, but it is important to meet customers with benefits of choosing correct frame for their prescriptoon and face. Thank you and keep it rollin. Regards from Split, Croatia.

[@nexx1]

I had someone who came in with a -9.75 and -8.25 and cyl. Together we chose 1.74 free form lens with a round plastic frame they were beautiful. You learn alot by listening to people about what they have been through in the past with their prescription. Thanks for the 1.67 conversation unfortunately it’s not easy to talk to someone at the lab who has this knowledge. They can edge it the same thickness in a 1.67 than a 1.74 ok but will they, only based on the free form measurements or does this come from only a experienced lab tech? Then when do you use 1.74 over 1.67? Second video please!! Any whosy a conversation starter at work. I am surprised but not surprised at her experience.

[@brunoksibyetekerwa4805]

Lee is exactly me. I have a small face but every shop I go to they hv those massive frames. I always find my self look at the kids section

[@lcfj626]

Amazingly! Thank you for your insight and teachings. ❤I have heard many cases of unsuccessful high myopic glasses. This is really helpful!❤

[@juliagoulia9111]

Amen!!! Thank you. Sad when patients say to me, you're the first optician to explain and educate me on (progressives, prism, fitting kids with bifocals etc) and I'm a new optician.

[@LaramyKOptical]

Julia, Thank your teacher/mentor/trainers! And keep on learning! John

[@rcalzadilla]

You shouldn't be sad to learn that the world is not perfect and neither are people in it but I really understand how that makes you feel. No matter what field or level in it, we must remember the human, imperfect factor; nevertheless, we should expect and strive to get better otherwise it would be much worse. Sorry, but just couldn't help myself in letting that out.

[@pilotpilot1304]

In the video mentioned that -1.67 can be thinner than -1.74. Is + 1.67 better than the +1.74 also for script +6.5 0.0 0.0 both eyes .

[@mig-ij6mg]

As a lab tech I see that problem in a daily basis, and as per usual and to make everything even better no heights then they question why px feels that the ground is very distant or very close

[@kkentmiller]

Love the discussion between John and Janet. This is what the Spectacle Shoppe does every day. And It's a great time to let the public know how glasses and lenses can be selected properly.

[@LaramyKOptical]

Thanks! Yeah, I keep meaning to post that the conversation with Janet was not scripted of even rehearsed in any way at all. I actually had to edit it down from a longer version! No rushed phone calls at Laramy-K.

[@JuanPablo-wm9pe]

WHAT A GREAT VIDEO. Thanks John for your hard work. It is very important for opticians to keep learning and be honest.

[@sammicastro13]

Love this video. Tis person is very honest. Keep up the good work.

[@LaramyKOptical]

Thanks for watching, Sammi. Will do!

[@MrLim26]

Hi Mr John, hope you are having a great day ahead may i know why does PD changes from time to time? how often does it changes? thank you jonathan

[@crispy9377]

would have to agree, probably the most important and educational video you've done! from start to finish, loved it., putting this is my " videos that every beginning optician needs to watch " folder. Thanks John!

[@LaramyKOptical]

Crispy, THANKS --- I was thinking of calling it, "Find 10 Hidden Messages In This Video." Theory vs. Application, what we believe vs. what is true, advertising vs. reality, herd mentality vs. independent thought, big-box factory lab vs. independent...

[@phototristan]

In the past, I've literally had to tell an optician - don't act like you hate me, I need to get my eyeglasses right for me. Even their technician guy told me the frames could easily fit 1.66 (yet I was sold 1.74) and he shook his head and rolled his eyes at the woman who sold them to me.

[@LaramyKOptical]

Yeah - Sadly we are at a point where the only thing that will save opticians is when the customers have self educated themselves to knowing more than they do. With the exception of the OpticianWorks program the schools and training programs all have their priorities backwards. Next time you can just say, "No, I want these in 1.66 and that is what I need you to order for me." And - you can blame much of the "customer is the enemy" stuff on social media. The optician Facebook stuff is 90% whining about "patients." I've been writing for years - "Opticians, their own worst enemy." John

[@phototristan]

@@LaramyKOptical and that’s where you come in. :) Thanks for your reply and for what you’re doing for people.

[@Aeder42]

I liked the explanation of why 1.74 isn't always the best option and how 1.67 can be just as good or better at times, even for a relatively high Rx. When would 1.74 be the preferred lens material? Would you choose that when it's a more severe Rx? Is there any benefit over 1.67 if you can get them just as thin? I work in the lab at LensCrafters, so we don't surface hi-index. In fact, we only edge 1.67, so my experience with 1.74 is limited.

[@LaramyKOptical]

Hart Attack, In stock or finished uncuts your 1.74 would (probably) be thinner than a 1.6X. Another lab might (might) be able to grind 1.74 as thinner or thinner than we can (maybe). Sadly, as mentioned below "scientifically" 1.74 is currently the thinnest material available. Anything you can sell as the "__________est" allows for a premium price tag. Retail you might see a $100 difference between a 1.6X and a 1.74 offering. Business is business... Short answer = if you can get them as thin there is no advantage to using 1.74 over a 1.6X. John

[@Aeder42]

Thank you!

[@dann5480]

Very good video. I subscribed. People like you are rare these days. God bless.

[@larenajames9452]

My prescription is Sphere-15.75 cyl +4.00 Axis 109 Add +1.75 I need help to get glasses tht can be thin out..I hate the thickness..Any suggestions on my prescriptions...Help...

[@mamaboocee]

Wow. Leanne! I thought I had problems! Thankfully we have the solution here! I find frames with a smaller bridge look and feel so much better and 16 and below is hard to find unless it is on a kid's frame - which is always far too small for me. With my high negative Rx (not as high as leanne's) and very small nose, I wish I saw this before I ordered my frames with 1.74 high index lenses, but I ordered two other pairs of the same frames with index 1.67 lenses so no biggie. I will get to see the proof myself! I love your videos! I am still learning, but now I can spot optician bs a mile away, and I can now understand what a good optician tells me! Awesome channel! My new favorite youtuber! THANK YOU A MILLION TIMES OVER!!!

[@romulusremus7537]

The end product look fantastic on her.

[@LaramyKOptical]

That they do, that they do... John

[@lindsaydunseith8661]

Thank you for this helpful video. I am a customer, not an optician, but have been really struggling to get eye care centers to give me frames that fit. I have glasses that I know fit with the bridge width of 18mm, but most of the shops in Italy near me seem to have standard bridge widths of 17mm or 16mm and don't fit over my nose properly. Here is some of the "advice" I've been given: 1) You should slide the glasses down your nose to get the frame to fit, otherwise the glasses sit too high; 2) We can adjust these and the result is that the arm is stretched out at an angle of about 20 to 30 degrees from the vertical; 3) when the frame hits my the skin at the side of my nose, I'm told that I shouldn't smile like that because that will always happen with frames, 4) Oh, why don't you want the glasses to sit so high above your eyebrows, is this a fashion preference? (when I said, no, this was because the center of the lens will then not be correctly aligned with my pupil, his response was "oh, we do personalized lenses"), 5) You can't wear plastic lenses because they are all sized like this, so you must choose metal lenses so I can adjust the nose pads or give you smaller ones 6) When I checked the frame size before fitting them on, I was told, "the numbers don't mean anything, the bridge width and temple width work together with the shape of the frames." The adjustments of frames that don't fit correctly are likewise ludicrous, with one shop bending the ear parts so that they were completely straight because I said they didn't fit properly over my ears. None of the shops take measurements, or seem to have a clue how to analyze what is the right size for me. It was only after watching your video that I was able to analyze the fit for myself, which helped me in the last shop because I avoided buying frames from them. I still don't have glasses but at least I now know what to look out for in a shop.

[@LaramyKOptical]

Yep - Every day another consumer like you takes the time to learn. Every day another optician becomes unnecessary. Glad you were able to sort things out for yourself. Hope you can find a great optician somewhere out there. When I first started reading the responses I thought this was some kind of joke or some kind of "say the opposite" thing. With what you have learned if you have no other alternatives you may do better shopping online.

[@francisfrancis4219]

What does the boss mean when she says 1.67 index has better “acuity” than 1.74? In particular, what measurable lens specification is she referring to? She also mentions abbe, so it is not that. I don’t think she means clarity / transparency, either.

[@edlinesoriano6020]

This video is really educating people.But I have a question, how would you know what kind of lens material you would use based on the eye prescription??

[@LaramyKOptical]

That video is being worked on right now. Expect it late spring. Short answer is, no.

[@laurenclark5734]

I know my comment will get lost in the KZbin universe but I am glad you found this video. For the past two years I have been wearing frames that appear to fit my face but the earpieces that are spring hinged have been squeezing my head so tight that I have intentions all the time. They could not be adjusted. So I went to the eye doctor for a new exam and have been looking for frames. I am the opposite of the lady in the video. I have a very high plus number on my strong prescription. I am flabbergasted at the four different optical places I have been to. They are ill-informed and don’t seem to know what they are doing. They assume I’m more interested in the cosmetics and I am getting the correct frame for my prescription. One lady actually wanted to put me in a rimless frame which I knew would be ridiculous with my high index prescription. I live in a small town so now I’m gonna have to travel 2 1/2 hours to the city to try to find something there. There’s no reason to believe that they will be more informed and helpful there but I have no choice. I will also be getting separate reading glasses which are also very high index. I’m watching as many of your videos as I can to try to learn as much as possible. I am very late in life educating myself on all of this. Thank you for your videos.

[@LaramyKOptical]

Not lost! Thanks for the note. Sadly these days it is up to the consumer to educate themselves since a decent optician is so hard to find. We've been trying with some success to change that but the industry is stuck. You may well find that a busy store will do better since by volume alone they learn faster.

[@user-qb3uy5cg1u]

Can you make a video about different coatings. Blue light blockers vs anti UV coating.

[@LaramyKOptical]

Nothing planned on that at the moment. Way too much out on blue blocking already and none of it helpful. Do you have a specific question about the difference between the two? Email me and I might be able to answer it or connect you with someone who could. John

[@zxvixen5299]

Thank you for this old video! I am a -8.25 -.75 107axis / -9.75 -1.0 100 axis and started in glasses in third grade. I switched to contact lenses when I was 12, at around a -4 or so. A couple decades later I thought having a pair of glasses again would be nice as rest for my eyes and a backup. I went to the “best” eye doctor in town who clearly had no idea how to set glasses for a high myopia. These frames are so bad with color shift/fish eye I can’t leave the house or drive in them, they are extremely heavy and painful on my nose (pads, not plastic) and I have spent the last few years angrily regretting the many hundreds of dollars I spent on this pair of glasses. I let them up sell me to all the bells and whistles - high index, anti glare, transitions etc. When I went in to pick them up there wasn’t even a provision for me to try them on without my contacts and I had no idea how bad they were. Years later I’m considering buying another pair of glasses and you’ve given me hope that maybe there’s something out there that will work.

[@LaramyKOptical]

You'll find some other great videos here: kzbin.info/door/dfKXBLjBDbX2X2g0XuAbmwvideos

[@LaramyKOptical]

Watch the other videos (link below) so you go in knowing more than the doc and the optician about what you need and why you need it. ;-) Those powers are high but not off the chart high - no reason you can't have a decent pair of glasses. Do be aware of spectacle blur however. People that truly LIVE in their contacts will have some adaptation time to wearing glasses again. Don't automatically assume things aren't right. You might need to wear them exclusively for a few days to be sure. Let me know how you make out. John

[@Giulia851]

I know that frame size also applies for a high plus Rx, but can a 1.74 lens come out thicker than a 1.67 in a high plus too? I don't work in the Optical field, but as someone with a high plus Rx, I've had to do my own research about choosing frames as the only thing that's been recommended to me while choosing glasses is to chose a plastic/acetate frame over a metal one. No one has ever mentioned size to me, and as someone with a PD of 59 most frames are not centred and are too wide. Thanks for such an informative video.

[@LaramyKOptical]

Yes depending on the lab and the equipment used a 1.74 in plus might come out thicker. Far more likely in minus however since the lens gets so thin at the center. A plus power 1.74 factory made single-vision lens would be thinner than a 1.6X. A plus power lens being ground for an individual lens power (Rx) could go either way. John

[@Jan96106]

They looked great!

[@makenchips]

OMG you just verified my hunches and experiences I'm having with the BS opticians!

[@LaramyKOptical]

Plenty of BS out there... But --- you aren't dealing with a real optician if they don't know this stuff and they aren't guiding you correctly.

[@chadjohnson3736]

Great video John. Very educational and also a very informative I am going for my ncle exam on the 7th of this month. Wish me luck and also if you'd have any links that I can review for study material before I go

[@LaramyKOptical]

LUCK! And yeah --- www.OpticianWorks.com! You will find everything you need to pass the ABO and be a great optician too!

[@mercedes-benzbentleyranger1070]

Her final spectacles are so pretty and suit not only her face but her personality also

[@ZiggyStarman42]

They look absolutely smashing. I was wondering; her pupils still sit a bit high up in the glasses - did you lower the optical center to thin the lenses, or did you make it exactly where her pupils are?

[@LaramyKOptical]

We placed the lens OC in front of her pupil.

[@optilabhamasger9191]

Hi John, thanks so much for this (and all the other) very informative video(s). can you please clarify when you would choose a 1.67 over a 1.74? thanks! Miriam

[@LaramyKOptical]

Sorry but no easy answer. In stock single vision lenses a 1.74 should always be the thinnest option. In surfaced you can't really be sure. We are working on a video about this but it will months in the making. There are no rules, charts, or absolutes involved. For general sales maybe use 5D as a rule-of-thumb where I would start thinking 1.74 over 1.67 and certainly 7D and up. No black-and-white answers here. John

[@optilabhamasger9191]

@@LaramyKOptical ok, thanks for the reply!

[@lint2023]

How do I find a shop that has an optician that knows this? I've needed new glasses for years, now, but due to bad results I'm still wearing old glasses!

[@LaramyKOptical]

Tough one. Try to find an independent optician owned shop. Ask around and find the busy ODs office with a few opticians working there. Don't be shy asking questions. Don't be shy walking away if you don't feel they know what they are doing. If in doubt walk back out. Drop me an email through the OpticianWorks website and I can see if we have any customers near where you live. John

[@daniellelienau3160]

So I’ve been choosing wrong frames my whole life? -13.50/-2/045 -11/-1/135 I don’t really have time to learn everything here. Need something that doesn’t fall down my face, be able to hold at my ears, accommodate my not perfectly symmetrical face, and doesn’t lose half my vision to my eyebrows getting them dirty. It costs me $800 every time I need new glasses.

[@daniellelienau3160]

Pic in profile isn’t my current frame. But you’re telling me my much loved Dolabany Plume Paris Dabo is too big and square. :(

[@LaramyKOptical]

I think it would be worth your 17 minutes to watch the video and, "...learn everything here." It isn't hard. You mention costs of $800 - isn't that worth spending a little time learning about something? And - yes from what I can see I certainly would NOT put you in that frame with those kinds of powers. John

[@AkashKumar-gn6sh]

Hello sir, I like to watch your videos . Your videos are so informative. Sir how should I select the R.I. of lens according to the prescription of eye. Is there any range of power which give us idea to select a particuler R.I. of lens . My doubt is like 1.56 is ok from _power to _ power or 1.60 is ok from_power to _ power etc.

[@LaramyKOptical]

We are working on that very video now. Expect it out late spring 2021. John

[@ZiggyStarman42]

Hi John. I've been wondering about blank sizes for lenses - I know that for plus lenses, we obviously want to order the smallest possible blank size. Say I have a +6.00 prescription and a frame where my tracer tells me I need a blank with a minimum diameter of 64 mm. If I were to order the lens in a 75 mm diameter, that lens would end up being unnecessarily thick compared to ordering a 65 mm lens. What's the rule of thumb for minus prescriptions? Same frame, minimum of 64 mm, but now a -6.00 power. How do I get the thinnest lens? By ordering the 65 mm blank or a 75 mm? Does it even matter for minus powers? Hope you can help me, thanks in advance!

[@LaramyKOptical]

In stock lenses it makes no difference on edge thickness to blank size in minus. None, zero, nada, zip. In surfaced lenses it can make a world of difference. In higher powers we (Laramy-K) will always ask for a good frame shape trace and as accurate measurements as you can get. When we plug that into the lab software it calculates power distribution so you get the very thinnest lens possible. Check out the video Learn From My Mistakes. John

[@gagebergez612]

Hi John! Are you able to explain how much thicker a standard SV lens would’ve been in these glasses vs your free form SV lens?

[@LaramyKOptical]

No. I'm sorry but it just doesn't work that way. If we had the complete job order and a frame trace and plugged it into the lab software then, yes. But just a "how much compared to the other" no. And if anyone tells you otherwise they don't know what they are talking about. John

[@strandedinseattle9931]

This guy is like John Malkovitch's little brother. Thank you for all the information!

[@Accnews_]

Thank you for your education!!! Can you help me to read my prescription the store is closed and I want to buy online in EyeBuyDirect I read a lot comments said is safe to buy there!

[@LaramyKOptical]

Just answered you on Facebook. Yes?

[@shortcakeism]

I just got a new pair of glasses and I’m at high index 1.67 but the lenses are too thick on the side, my optician told me is because in at a -5.50. In your professional opinion should it be too thick on the sides?

[@LaramyKOptical]

See also: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJraaaqdorepgbc

[@MrLim26]

Hi John, my Pupillary Distance is 30.5 i was wondering why does my PD increase since 28.5 to 29.5? my L--5.00, R-4.75 cylinder: R-1.00, L:0.25 Axis:R-10, L-50 i have maintain my degree for nearly 5years but i am curious to why PD does increases and stop at a certain age if i am not wrong? is my prescription considered high? appreciate your advice i aren't a optican luckily my lense are 1.60 to 1.67 thank you Jonathan

[@LaramyKOptical]

A difference of 1mm (0.5mm per eye) or even 2 (1mm per eye) is probably nothing more than the difference between what was used to take the PD. 1mm isn't enough difference to matter, don't worry about it. If you are in single-vision lenses those powers would be available as stock lenses. An hour, a day, a few days but no need for 10 days. If they are a progressive lens then 10 days might be expected. Both would depend on the lab I suppose. Some lenses are literally pre-packaged and ready to be cut for a frame. Others because of power and/or design MUST be ground individually at the lab. 5 diopters is the cutoff for "high" so with your cylinder of 1 you are just, just getting into what might be considered high but don't worry about it. Hope that helps. John

[@MrLim26]

@@LaramyKOptical because in singapore optical shops some lens are needed to be pre-ordered. thank you very much :) -Jonathan

[@rcalzadilla]

Do you think it's possible to make a sort of guiding graph-guide to show when frame shape and optic measurements begin to conflict and requires a good expert, such as you? Always looking for an easy way for the less gifted. Love your educational videos, though I am just and end user who wants to know enough to order my glasses online, when possible.

[@LaramyKOptical]

Anytime any lens power is greater than 3.00 diopters plus or minus shape and measurements really do start to matter. +/- 6.00 and you better start really paying attention. Unless someone is very sensitive or you have a severe compounding prism situation anything under 3 close is going to be close enough. EXCEPT for progressive lens fittings - those always have to be spot on regardless of power. So - basic everyday lens powers in single vision eh, a few mm one way or the other and nothing bad is going to happen. I guess a great rule would be if you can "see" without your glasses well enough to get through the day without them - don't worry about it. If you NEED your glasses just to make it to the bathroom in your own house then you probably have enough power to make sure you get a good shape and good measurements. John

[@emroa4682]

What mean surface that make 167 thinner than 174? Please.. I'm optician in Bali

[@walkingmonument]

I’ve been paying $10 a month for opticianworks and I’m very upset to discover that it doesn’t allow me beyond the first course. I don’t even know how to be a total access member.

[@LaramyKOptical]

Website - About - Contact Us Let us know which account you're having problems with and we'll take care of it.

[@KurohyouKitty]

Hiya, I work as an optician in Sam's Club and I was actually not aware the 1.74 could end up thicker on the side than the 1.67s. I'm definitely sticking to those from now on. My question is how are you guys able to get the edges so tiny even if a high rx? The labs we use still end up with many of the lenses in higher rxs sticking out and I feel terrible we in the store cant do anything about that.

[@LaramyKOptical]

Dafne, 1.67 CAN turn out thinner than 1.74 but it is not a rule. You never know unless you experiment and know what the lab you are working with can do. At a Sam's I know you can only do so much. Just pay attention to frame shape and size. You might try getting through to your lab and asking about 1.6X and 1.74 but I doubt you would have much luck. Just do the best you can. "Science" tells us that 1.74 should be the thinnest lens available. At a big-box optical If that is what your customer wants well, that is probably the thing to give them. John

[@marg6196]

LeAnn asked if you had any shape choice tips for helping people with low PD choose glasses. I watched the whole video for your answer, did I miss it?

[@LaramyKOptical]

You might find some good suggestions in the recent series on dispensing (the last 20 videos we have put out). As a sufferer of WHNPDs disease myself I find round (rounder) shapes or fully rimless rectangular seem to work a little better. I think the the smaller is better rule works well for a narrow PD as well. Anything that reduces the amount of frame and lens from your pupil center out towards the temple is good. The dinner plate special is out. [Wide Head Narrow PD]

[@Quilter1977]

​@@LaramyKOpticalAs a -8 in the wide head narrow PD club myself, it's an absolute nightmare. Anything which is a perfect eye and bridge size will be far too small in the frame width. I've managed to find a reasonably good frame to get made up for bifocals, it's my first pair and I'm planning to use them just for quilting, so I wanted to keep to a reasonable budget, after all the money I've spent recently on reading glasses. Thankfully I have a marvellous optometrist, but even so I had to source frames myself, and take a selection to them for the optician to pick the best one for my optical needs.

[@LaramyKOptical]

@@Quilter1977 Sounds like you are doing a very good job of doing the right things. Yep -8 is getting up there.

[@Quilter1977]

@@LaramyKOptical Thanks. I have a few regrets for my distance and reading glasses, I've learned a lot since I got them. So next time I'll probably drive my optician up the wall wanting to order stuff in! But by now we pretty much have to order things in anyway, and my tinted reading glasses ended up fabulous. 50-16, but they suit my face shape, and with the tint you don't really notice the facial inset. I've been going through this video checking the before and after photos against the frame I chose for the bifocals! Where did she find it, is it a children's frame?

[@LaramyKOptical]

@@Quilter1977 I believe it was from EyeBobs which is an online over the counter reader store. She was lucky that the frame was fine for prescription lenses.

[@goaticorn8702]

I have a - 7.5 (approx both eyes) and cannot find ANYONE in my area that deals well it. My face is very, very, narrow like hers and I cannot get ANY decent help (Best option is costcos near me). My new lenses are even worse than the last ones with tons of distortion and color issues legit everywhere but in the exact middle. Do you still help people? Haha

[@AlexDias775]

Great video.

[@JauGoo]

I am designing a sports frame and the manufacturer is suggesting to me that the bigger the lense the smaller the bridge and vice versa..is this true? If so why? I hope you can respond as I am eager to learn

[@LaramyKOptical]

Yes, but - no the bridge size should be dictated by your nose size and nothing else. You wouldn't use its size to somehow alter overall lens size. What a peculiar way of thinking about it! John

[@JauGoo]

@@LaramyKOptical Thank you John! In your opinion what would be the ideal frame curvature to house a trivex rx lense while providing adequate eye protection for a non rx trivex lense? I am thinking 4.5?

[@LaramyKOptical]

@@JauGoo Ideal will always be as little as possible. You need a little face-form for good optics but beyond that you are always compromising things. I know you want that wrap for the sporty look and a little more side coverage but be careful. It will depend on the lens powers. Low power do what you want. Higher power (above 1.5 in this case) and I'd be careful. How well a lens will sit in a particular frame will depend on the competency of the person edging the lenses. It isn't all about frame curve it is frame curve and lens curve together. Trivex should make a fine choice of material. John

[@JauGoo]

@@LaramyKOptical Thank you John! We need more people like you on this planet! I will be sending you my first order as soon as I can complete this design!

[@damienford3587]

Truly shocking. So many of these professionals need an attitude tune-up. Also reading Tim Fortner's book Which Looks Better, 1 or 2? would be useful. It's a recommeded read on the VisionWorks Training Course. Just ordered it.... Thanks John. D

[@ranbirlourembam358]

I would like see your video more

[@kimpetersen2438]

it's many in us the give the costermers this in formation you teed for us here in eurpean country the can make this kind of ore what kind of glass it mache to the costermers yes I will recommend this costermers going to a mother glasses stor an ask them

[@TheOzzymosis]

hello there from Greece , size and frame matters yes , and there is another one part that it is important and maters , the curbe of the frame and the curbe of the lenses , the opticians must stop shelling frames with curbe 5.0 or 6.0 and ordering stock lenses with 1.2 or 1.8 curbe some of them they dont even know what i'm talking about , working on a optician lab in Greece , always have tsiw problem with customers (opticians) the FU........NK CURBE !!! thank you !

[@LaramyKOptical]

Hello there from US. Yep, super important! I do cover that in great detail on the website. One of the recurring quiz questions is, "Poor _____ & ______ matching is a leading cause of jobs being delayed at the lab." Fill in the FU.....NG blanks. ;-) John

[@rdwok14]

Thanks for this video, it really explains a lot of things that 95% of opticians nowadays won’t explain to you. Finding one that seriously considers optics over fashion is extremely difficult and it’s nearly impossible to find frames without oversized lenses with the current fashion trends. I feel like most of the stores have just given up on smaller lenses whether it’s online or physical. My question is should the A Box + DBL add up to the patient PD for best optics and thinness? I have a PD of 63 which is pretty close to the male average, but it’s hard finding anything smaller than 67 nowadays. Everything is just so dang big! And also, where should the eye line be? I thought that they should be in the center of the lens, but it’s also a struggle finding round lenses with a height smaller than 38 or so and I’m not such a fan of narrow ovals or rectangles.

[@LaramyKOptical]

Nearly impossible to find a frame PD human PD match. We just aren't shaped that way. The goal is to keep them as close as you can within reason. For the placement of the eye in the vertical sort of the same thing you want the eye to be as well centered in the opening of the frame as possible but that is rarely perfect. Often it will be a little above while a little below would be a red flag on frame fit. The brain is quite sensitive to lens shift along the horizontal not very much to the vertical. Just keep the mantra - "As small as I can go and get a proper fit." and all will be well.

[@tjwiets6691]

If only trying frames on replicated how they'd look with your prescription too.

[@LaramyKOptical]

Unless the lens powers are very high there shouldn't be all that much difference between the two "looks." Good frame choice, good lens material choice, good AR and things should look better not worse.