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LKLogic

LKLogic

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@TheEmanoeljr
@TheEmanoeljr Жыл бұрын
Easy. a=2021, c=2020 and b=0.
@aidan-ator7844
@aidan-ator7844 Жыл бұрын
You missed half the solutions genius
@TheEmanoeljr
@TheEmanoeljr Жыл бұрын
​@@aidan-ator7844whatever. Its correct! Uhuu!
@aidan-ator7844
@aidan-ator7844 Жыл бұрын
@@TheEmanoeljr yes but you only have the intuitive solution. There are others.
@aidan-ator7844
@aidan-ator7844 Жыл бұрын
@ferrel9715 without a doubt. Intuition is only one part of thinking that functions best in conjunction with others.
@bharati1923
@bharati1923 Жыл бұрын
Good observation, bcz that’s what matter. As computers are there to solve/ evaluate if required…
@ShawnPitman
@ShawnPitman Жыл бұрын
Look at 4:03. This only works if youre working with integers. The single-step assumption that xy = 1 only has two answers is only valid in integers. Counter-example: x = 1/2 and y = 2. This is also 1. (In this case x = (1-b) and y = (a-c)).
@ShawnPitman
@ShawnPitman Жыл бұрын
I'm an idiot. The problem statement says "integer solutions".
@atrib_
@atrib_ Жыл бұрын
The video did not stress this point, which is crucial. 3 variables, 2 equations leads to infinite(?) solutions. Even with the additional constraint of integer values, we got 2 solutions
@muhammadabujabal9387
@muhammadabujabal9387 Жыл бұрын
​@ShawnPitman But each part was the combination of 2 numbers , so you will get only integers if you add or subtract integers, I think it's the only step that seems need looking the rest is simple algebra could be done in 1 min
@hickiwawa
@hickiwawa Жыл бұрын
Same here. The thumbnail left that out. I was going to solve before watching the video, only to quickly notice there are infinite solutions.
@lipers87
@lipers87 Жыл бұрын
yes, if u name "ab + c = 2020" as X and "a + bc = 2021" as Y, them we can do Y - X we get: (b - 1) • (c - a) = 1. So b can be 0 or 2, but c - a can be anything like (2, 1); (3, 2); (-1, 0); (-2, -3); ...
@brianbutton6346
@brianbutton6346 Жыл бұрын
I liked the fact that someone with a nice voice and clear handwriting can provide audio-visuals for an instructional video. I have neither.
@satvikakshintala8030
@satvikakshintala8030 7 ай бұрын
Bro but this isn’t a valid question and neither her answer a valid one Since there are 3 variable you can have multiple answers for eg A = 2021 B = 0 C = 2020
@eliatgnu
@eliatgnu Жыл бұрын
This is a special case of a much more general problem: ab + c = A (1) a + bc = A + 1 (2) (2)-(1) gives b=1-1/(a-c). Let's replace the variable c by c'=a-c and work with c' from now on (still have 3 independent variables, but more convenient, c can be recovered by c=a-c'.). So b=1-1/c' (3) Substituting this into (1) gives a(1-1/c')+a-c'=A, which yields a=(A+c')c'/(2c'-1) (4). Given an arbitrary A, one therefore only needs to specify c' to get a general solution of a, b and c. For integer solutions, c' must also be an integer, and from (3), b can only be an integer when c'=1 or -1. For c'=1: it follows that a=A+1, c=A, b=0, all integer as long as A is integer. For c'=-1: it follows that a=(A-1)/3, b=2, c=a-c'=(A+2)/3. In order for a and c to be integer for c'=-1, A has to be a multiple of 3 plus 1, i.e., A=3n+1 with arbitrary integer n, which then gives a=n, and c=n+1. The original problem is when n=673. Obviously, there are infinitely many 'problems' with the same condition provided that A=3n+1 with arbitrary integer n. Without restricting to integers, (3) and (4) constitute the general solution for arbitrary A.
@dorgamahmad6033
@dorgamahmad6033 Жыл бұрын
Also 2×0.5=1 and 0.5×2=1
@andrewcheung7538
@andrewcheung7538 Жыл бұрын
The real answer should be a curve in 3 D diagram... [n, f(n), f2(n)], should you think that you haven't given out a proper answer..
@hoagy_ytfc
@hoagy_ytfc Жыл бұрын
@@dorgamahmad6033 Except that the problem stated in the first few seconds of the video was "find the integer solutions".
@adivoma7
@adivoma7 Жыл бұрын
Basically (1-b)(a-c) = 1 is true only when both (1-b) and (a-c) are 1 or both are -1. These are the only integral solutions. The system having infinite solution is being eliminated by the fact a, b, c are integers. This has only 2 sets of solutions.
@ctsirkass
@ctsirkass Жыл бұрын
@@dorgamahmad6033 we are looking only for INTEGER solution. Read the question 3 times before solving (classic teacher's advice from the elementary school)
@muskyoxes
@muskyoxes Жыл бұрын
Somewhere, someone's discovered an amazing problem featuring the number 2374 and is just waiting to reach that year to release it
@donelkorantengbrown9439
@donelkorantengbrown9439 8 ай бұрын
I don't think that they would still be alive
@mikesmovingimages
@mikesmovingimages Жыл бұрын
A lot of commenters are boss stating the simple 0 solution or observing that there are infinite solutions, until they finally read the instructions! Integers only! And there is more than one solution.
@masterthnag105
@masterthnag105 Жыл бұрын
I solved stuff like this back in highschool. Man life has dragged me down. I need to take math classes again.
@kathrynstemler6331
@kathrynstemler6331 Жыл бұрын
Right? I remember a time when I could try to get my head around this but I’ve forgotten so much.
@Crom1980
@Crom1980 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that many people can't read the first four words in red.
@Mr_AbdulRehman
@Mr_AbdulRehman Жыл бұрын
Indeed. It's painful, too painful reading comments.
@arteffectsshivam3660
@arteffectsshivam3660 6 ай бұрын
If u see , there are infinie solutions As 1 can be written 2* 1/2 and infinitely many more 5:41
@yennhinguyen6746
@yennhinguyen6746 Жыл бұрын
The calculation in the video is missing a solution. At 3:52 we cannot assume that a x b = 1 then a=b=+-1 like in the video, there are infinite cases that two numbers multiply each other can equal to 1, for instance a x 1/a = 1 as well. According to my calculations there are two set of solutions, one just like in the video: a = 2021 ; b = 0 ; c = 2020 And the other set is: a = 673 ; b = 2 ; c = 674 You can test my solutions by replacing it to the given equation in the beginning of the video. Ty!
@the-mathwizard
@the-mathwizard Жыл бұрын
Watch the question my brother, it states only integer solutions are allowed
@felixiduh5286
@felixiduh5286 Жыл бұрын
a = 2021 b=0 c= 2020
@yovtobe
@yovtobe Жыл бұрын
I think I got it!!! Once I opened the video and saw the find all integer solutions I got two answers that both work. I still haven't watched but feel a nice sense of accomplishment!
@_captain_yt
@_captain_yt Жыл бұрын
2:42 signs work in multiplication? How?
@Dauti_
@Dauti_ Жыл бұрын
I don't follow what you're doing at 3:21. If you ignore the a(1-b) term, it seems to me you're saying that +c(b-1) is equivalent to -c(1-b), which seems wrong to me, coz if I assign random values to c and b, say c=7 and b=3, then +c(b-1) becomes +7(3-1), which is equal to +14, whereas -c(1-b) becomes -7(1-3), which is equal to +14. OK, you are right, but I don't follow.😭😭😭
@AhirZamanSairi
@AhirZamanSairi Жыл бұрын
What is the brand of the pen, I love how thin the lines are.
@Moharidy
@Moharidy 11 ай бұрын
The RHS equals 1 can be expanded as you did,but also can be expanded as multiplication of I and 1/I, which gives infinite number of solutions
@Mike-rx5uu
@Mike-rx5uu 11 ай бұрын
If a, b, and c are all integers (given in the problem statement), there is no way to generate a fraction of the form you're suggesting with 1-b or a-c.
@lamttl
@lamttl Жыл бұрын
Nice use of factorization concepts, well done
@AYTM1200
@AYTM1200 4 ай бұрын
I'm so proud I was able to do this in my head. I even used a different method for the beginning part. Step 1: ab + c = 2020 Step 2: a + bc = 2021 a + bc = 2020 + 1 a + bc - 1 = 2020 You equate the 2 to get. Step 3: ab + c = a + bc - 1 (ab - a) + (c - bc) = 1 a(b - 1) - c(b - 1) = - 1 (a - c)(b - 1) = - 1 Then you solve accordingly like the rest of the video.
@balkansenjoyer
@balkansenjoyer Жыл бұрын
In the last step, the two term just need to be reciprocals of eachother and if you get an integer for all values for example (1-b) = 1/2 it is a solution
@Abhilash26596
@Abhilash26596 11 ай бұрын
In 4:02, why do you say there is only 2 solutions (i.e., the (1-b) and (a-c) are only 1 or negative 1).. There is a third solution of - (1-b) = 1/(a-c) as well
@EhsanZia-Academi
@EhsanZia-Academi 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the solution and a great explanation.😊
@yogeshchaure3386
@yogeshchaure3386 Жыл бұрын
2 equation and 3 variable so put 1 variable 0. So only one way we can easily satisfy equations is put b=0 then a=2021 and c=2020
@cm5754
@cm5754 Жыл бұрын
Easy. c=0, a = 2021, b=2020/2021. With two equations and three variables, we are going to have an infinite number of solutions. We can usually pick one variable to be anything we want. (Edit: I didn’t realize, until after I wrote this that the thumbnail is different from the actual problem, which is misleading. The thumbnail does not say integer solutions.)
@richardleveson6467
@richardleveson6467 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Delightful presentation of a clever little problem.
@rnseby
@rnseby Жыл бұрын
Side note: I gave both Bing Chat and Google Bard this problem. While Bing Chat gave a great step by step, it got the wrong answers. Google Bard got the same answers as the video. Bing Chat: a = 2019.49 or -1919.49 b = 0.51 or 3940.49 c = 2019.98 or 22.02 The first set of answers seemed to be a rounding error. But the second set was completely off. My comment has nothing to do with the video, I just find it interesting how far off these AI are still. Google Bard got this one right but I've had times where Bing Chat gets it right and Google Bard gets it wrong as well. I've found if I ask both the same question, I'll either get a good answer or funny one.
@xxxBradTxxx
@xxxBradTxxx Жыл бұрын
I can wait until chat bots can do math properly. I kinda wish OpenAI and Microsoft would block those questions for now until they figure out how to make them accurate.
@santiagoferrari1973
@santiagoferrari1973 Жыл бұрын
Ask Grok.
@fongwinson5017
@fongwinson5017 11 ай бұрын
So far they are Language Models with some math capability. "Intelligent" in some areas only. SImilarily there should be very powerful math AI that could not have a nice "chat" with you.
@andrewcrayton2424
@andrewcrayton2424 Жыл бұрын
I watched just to make sure that my answer was right. I saw the problem while scrolling here on youtube and took only a few moments before I saw the solution. All of the extra steps were entirely unnecessary, but probably can help folks who aren't able to easily see the answers to math problems like this one.
@huynhaibac2020
@huynhaibac2020 Жыл бұрын
What grade is this math problem for? In my country, I encountered this problem when I was in 9th grade
@LightWaveLtd
@LightWaveLtd Жыл бұрын
How come this video appear in my suggestion, it looks like magic to me
@jan.kowalski
@jan.kowalski Жыл бұрын
Well, you do not need any calculations for a logic solution: just observe that b cancels a in first equation and also cancels c in second, so if b equals 0 then c is 2020 and a is 2021. 5 second solution.
@avalagum7957
@avalagum7957 11 ай бұрын
My generic solution for problems with integer solutions: convert the problem to A * B = a small constant. As A, B are integer, we can find all the possible values of (A, B). So, this problem gives a(1 - b) + c(b - 1) = 2021 - 2020 = 1, so (a - c = 1 and 1 - b = 1) or (a - c = -1 and 1 - b = -1)
@proman9297
@proman9297 Жыл бұрын
That's nowhere near to a maths Olympiad question
@coolfreaks68
@coolfreaks68 Жыл бұрын
ab + c = 2020 and a + bc = 2021 => *(c-a)(b-1) = 1.* Since, a, b and c are natural numbers, so the only way the above product( written in *bold font* ) can be 1, is when b-1=1 and c-a=1, which implies b = 2 and c = a+1. Putting b = 2 and c = a+1 in ab + c = 2020, we get a = 673 and c = 674.
@eddie31415
@eddie31415 Жыл бұрын
not natural numbers, but integers
@ctsirkass
@ctsirkass Жыл бұрын
We are talking about integers, not natural numbers, so you can get a product of 1 by (-1)*(-1) so you missed one solution.
@danvalean2217
@danvalean2217 Жыл бұрын
An easier step at the 2a+c/a+2c part would be just adding them. 3a+3c=4041 a+c=1337 Then you take the a-c=-1 2a=1336 a=673, then c=674 But that I guess it depends on the education system or on your mood. Nice solution.
@gardenjoy5223
@gardenjoy5223 Жыл бұрын
? Where did you leave b?
@xyntas
@xyntas Жыл бұрын
@@gardenjoy5223tell me you didn't watch the video without saying you didn't watch the video
@tcz1757
@tcz1757 Жыл бұрын
What about the a = 2021, b = 0, c = 2022 solution?
@gardenjoy5223
@gardenjoy5223 Жыл бұрын
@@xyntas Actually I did watch it. What happened to the b? Was I distracted at that bit? Can you give me the time, where one can leave b out to find the answers?
@danieltatar7575
@danieltatar7575 Жыл бұрын
@@gardenjoy5223 6:32
@mauriciogerhardt3209
@mauriciogerhardt3209 Жыл бұрын
Why are you only using integer solutions?
@slavasavitsky
@slavasavitsky Жыл бұрын
A pretty clear explanation except that it is not proven at 3:45 that 1 * 1 and (-1) * (-1) are indeed the only products of two integers that yield 1.
@toveirenestrand3547
@toveirenestrand3547 Жыл бұрын
b(c - a) - (c - a) = 1 = (c - a)(b - 1): 1) b - 1 = 1 and c - a = 1, so b = 2 and a = 673 and c = 674; or 2), b - 1 = -1 and c - a = -1, so b = 0, and a = 2021 and c = 2020.
@crcurran
@crcurran Жыл бұрын
This is what I thought just glancing at it. Seems to make sense to me that b = 0, a = 2021 and c = 2020.
@deathstarresident
@deathstarresident Жыл бұрын
Just like in video, instead subtracting on equation from the other - you can also add one equation to other and get a simplified product for (b+1)(a+c) =4041. It’s pretty much a very straightforward problem
@GauravSingh-gd1yj
@GauravSingh-gd1yj Жыл бұрын
This equation is not at all straightforward,the easiest soln was given in the video
@dudedujmovic6562
@dudedujmovic6562 Жыл бұрын
@@GauravSingh-gd1yj Agree, the easiest is shown. It is a nice problem for basic algebra astute.
@geralynpinto5971
@geralynpinto5971 Жыл бұрын
Love all your explanations. They are so clear and easy to understand
@QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO
@QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO Жыл бұрын
Not to me.
@popliceanumihai9653
@popliceanumihai9653 Жыл бұрын
@@QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO 😂
@PreservationEnthusiast
@PreservationEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
Not clear.... she says a into b when she means a x b. a into b is b/a
@christianherrmann
@christianherrmann Жыл бұрын
She explained every little step, but not the most crucial one, why none of the factors can be a fraction and hence only can be equal to +/- 1. (because a, b, c are to be integer, the factors (1-b) and also (a-c) are always integer.)
@gardenjoy5223
@gardenjoy5223 Жыл бұрын
@@christianherrmann For someone without foreknowledge, she forgot several steps! She did not explain why -(ab + c) is the same as -ab -c. Then she fails to explain why a - ab is the same as a(1-b). Explain those steps in between, and we are good to go. Without: nothing goes. To me this constitutes a bad teacher!
@themathiasP
@themathiasP 11 ай бұрын
I got to 3:37 myself but I had a different train of thought. I thought to myself what do I multiply by each other to get one. I realised that x * 1/x always is one. I got stuck on that and watched the video. I forgot that integer means that it could not be a fraction. English is not my native language although I should have realised it since in a programming I know an integer is a round number from- 2^15 and + 2^15.
@Dannychii
@Dannychii 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the explanation, I was confused at that too :D German here 😄
@mark2talk2u
@mark2talk2u Жыл бұрын
I’m confused. At the 3:49 mark, there are many products that equal one. How about 7 and1/7 for factor values? Is there a requirement that a, b, and c are integers?
@BurstWalkthroughs
@BurstWalkthroughs Жыл бұрын
it says at the top of the paper "integer solutions"
@夢月天林
@夢月天林 Жыл бұрын
The question only requires integral solutions.
@dalchandagrawal7312
@dalchandagrawal7312 Жыл бұрын
Assumptions that they are integers.
@fuzzblightyear145
@fuzzblightyear145 Жыл бұрын
as my old teacher once said "Read the question. Then read it again"
@ctsirkass
@ctsirkass Жыл бұрын
@@fuzzblightyear145 haha this is what my teachers said and I found it not to be enough. What I say to my son now is to read it 3 times, slowly, while focusing on each word separately and understanding what it means to be there.
@kumarchandrahas1462
@kumarchandrahas1462 9 ай бұрын
Good answer...it is factual... Based on multiplication principle- 0 multplied by any number is 0
@phoenixiiita
@phoenixiiita 5 ай бұрын
Great solution. Is this really a math Olympiad question ? Looks quite simple
@ceansonnery5937
@ceansonnery5937 Жыл бұрын
I had problems falling asleep. This video was my cure.
@alanklajnsek4400
@alanklajnsek4400 Жыл бұрын
The easiest is you choose one variable to be zero like a = 0 Then you eliminate quite a lot. c = 2020 and b = 2021/2020. So multiple solutions Not a fair Math problem but resourcefull one.
@tawfikahmed.2526
@tawfikahmed.2526 11 ай бұрын
This is decimal solution not integer solution for b
@alanklajnsek4400
@alanklajnsek4400 Жыл бұрын
Ab+c = (a + bc) - 1 Now solve it... There are probably more solutons... or more easy c =2020 - ab Now replace this c in second equation with (2020 - ab). a + (b(2020-ab))= 2021 a + (2020b -ab^2)=2021 Now we get: 2020b-ab^2 = 2021-a and c = 2020-ab Here on we choose one variable and multiple solutions present ourselves... One of them: b = 1 we get 2020-a=2021-a 2020=(2021-a)a a^2-2021a+2020=0 a=1 c=2019
@tawfikahmed.2526
@tawfikahmed.2526 11 ай бұрын
Wrong
@CellarDoor-rt8tt
@CellarDoor-rt8tt Жыл бұрын
Before watching here’s my method. We’re going to do this in a way where we are going to find every integer solution and prove that we have found all of them First we consider any fixed b and solve as a system in terms of a and c. I did so using Cramer’s rule which gets the job done and obtain that a = (2020b - 2021) / (b^2 - 1) and c = (2021b - 2020) / (b^2 - 1) First we must check explicitly what happens at b = 1 and at b = -1 as cramer’s rule will fail if our system is linearly dependent, but our system being linearly dependent does not preclude the possibility of there being solutions so we must check. This is easy as for b = 1, a + c = 2020 and a + c = 2021 so 2020 = 2021 -> 0=1 which is a contradiction. If b = -1 then -a + c = 2020 and a - c = 2021 so -2020 = 2021 so 0 = 4041 -> 0=1 which is a contradiction. So, now we have that a = (2020b - 2021) / (b^2 - 1) c = (2021b - 2020) / (b^2 - 1) We have every solution, but now we need to isolate the integer ones. Use partial fraction decomposition. We get that a = 4021/(2b+2) - 1/(2b-2) c = 4021/(2b+2) + 1/(2b-2) Now assume a and c are integers and b is an integer that’s not -1 or 1, then 2ab + 2a = 4041 - (b+1)/(b-1) 2cb + 2c = 4041 + (b+1)/(b-1) In both instances, the left hand sides are necessarily integers. On the right hand side, 4041 is an integer so both right hand sides will result in integers if and only if (b+1)/(b-1) is an integer. So b-1 is a factor of b+1. In the case that b < -1, (b+1)/(b-1) will always fail to be an integer because in that case abs(b+1) < abs(b-1) -> abs( (b+1) / (b-1) ) < 1 and (b+1)/(b-1) = 0 only at b = -1 If b > 0 then (b+1)/(b-1) is not an integer if b > 3. This is because of prime factorization. Since every natural number larger than is uniquely the product of primes, that means that the largest integer factor of any natural number larger than 2 is itself and the next largest factor is at most the size of that natural number divided by the smallest prime which is 2. But, b+1 =/= b-1 ever and b > 3 -> 2b > b + 3 -> 2b - 2 > b + 1 -> b -1 > (b+1)/2 So, b must be between -1 and 3. We already showed b = -1 and b = 1 don’t work. If b = 0 then a = 2021 and c = 2020. if b = 2, then a = 673 and c = 674. If b = 3, then a = 4039/8 which isn’t an integer. So the only 2 solutions are (a, b, c) = (2021, 0, 2020) and (a, b, c) = (673, 2, 674).
@BALLYRM
@BALLYRM 2 ай бұрын
Question: what is your audience- Initial 4 minutes could be reduced to less than 60 secods!
@noyanozyakali5281
@noyanozyakali5281 3 ай бұрын
Yes but missing. Basically you have 3 unknowns and 2 eqnS, so it can be said “infinitely many solutions” to be exact. Also consider “negative integers” as well.
@ZIN24031980
@ZIN24031980 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, your solution is clear and simple.
@QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO
@QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO Жыл бұрын
It's a clear as mud to me.
@sobolzeev
@sobolzeev Жыл бұрын
​@@QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPOYou would prefer it even slower? Or do you need an explanation of an idea of replacing numbers with letters, so called algebra?
@QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO
@QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO Жыл бұрын
If I couldn't understand it, the fault is not mine. I won't waste time by looking at it again.If I said that it was unclear, it was.
@sobolzeev
@sobolzeev Жыл бұрын
@@QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO If you hear a dumb sound when a book hits your head, it is not necessary the book's failure.
@QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO
@QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO Жыл бұрын
Fortunately, I didn't have any "teachers" like that when I was in school. If I had, I never would have learned fractions..
@Nevyn515
@Nevyn515 Жыл бұрын
I’d have said a = 2000, b = 1 c = 20… Because I’m dumb and just pop out the first answer that comes to mind, give it zero thought, then never think about it again, because I’m not a maths professor or in a maths class, so it’s not like I need to do any equations ever, just like 99.999% of everyone else in the world. The remainder probably do physics or work at NASA or something so they need more maths skills than basic addition, subtraction and potentially basic multiplication or division… But we all have phones with calculators on them for a reason, pretty much for doing DIY, maybe doing refunds at a customer service job, working out how much each person needs to pay at a restaurant, and pretty much nothing else.
@perweryoussef6947
@perweryoussef6947 Жыл бұрын
Three unknowns cannot be deduced from two equations... There are an infinite number of solutions
@jimbrooks1452
@jimbrooks1452 11 ай бұрын
You are correct if there are no restrictions. But, as I tell my students, "read the problem." The problem restricts the solutions to *integers.*
@rzbonilla
@rzbonilla 8 ай бұрын
Is assuming b = 0 possible?
@misomiso8228
@misomiso8228 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful.
@pandu2129
@pandu2129 4 ай бұрын
So, 2 variables and 2 equations give you only 1 possible case answer whereas 3 variables and 2 equations give you 2 possible case answers.
@setsunaes
@setsunaes 7 ай бұрын
(Me proud because I solved for the 2 results of this problem): Hehe, I still got it, here I am solving a math Olympics probl... (Someone:) Yeah this is a third-grade student problem (me)... well, gotta train to help my daughter then
@avidelahi5224
@avidelahi5224 9 ай бұрын
So interesting, thanks 👌✨️
@desmondaubery9621
@desmondaubery9621 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Elegant.
@GineAce
@GineAce Жыл бұрын
(1)(1) = 1 (-1)(-1) = 1 (x)(1/x) = 1, so this expression has infinitely many solutions
@mayihelpyou5557
@mayihelpyou5557 Жыл бұрын
1/x 不是整數
@夢月天林
@夢月天林 Жыл бұрын
But the question only requires integer solutions, which means the third case should not be considered or otherwise at least one of the unknowns has to be a function.
@ctsirkass
@ctsirkass Жыл бұрын
...and the 3rd solution allows for only values x=+/-1, in order for fractions themselves to be integers (x: integer & 1/x:integer). Read the question more carefully or you are going to make many mistakes in your exams.
@induwara2513
@induwara2513 Жыл бұрын
Clear solution
@rameshsingamsetti9690
@rameshsingamsetti9690 Жыл бұрын
The product of 1 can be obtained by 1/2 × 2 or 1/3 x 3. There are infinite solutions to that problem.. You have 3 unknowns and 2 equations. You can't have a definite solution for that!!
@andykyllo6856
@andykyllo6856 7 ай бұрын
The directions state integer solutions only.
@dussaramaa5392
@dussaramaa5392 2 ай бұрын
a=673,b=2,c=674
@WannaKnowMyName
@WannaKnowMyName Жыл бұрын
3:52 “1 is a product of 1 times 1 and -1 times -1”. 1 is a product of infinite numbers. 1 is a product of 2 and 1/2, 3 and 1/3, 4 and 1/4, etc. There are infinite solutions. By saying that 1 is only a product of 1*1 and -1*-1 you’re limiting the scope of the solutions here. This problem in fact has infinite solutions
@syedarbishalishah5140
@syedarbishalishah5140 Жыл бұрын
You need to read the question more carefully.
@Laci-ps9xq
@Laci-ps9xq 9 ай бұрын
As a 7th grade asian we can be sure with you that this math equation is a piece of cake
@PraveenKumar-bk7yk
@PraveenKumar-bk7yk Жыл бұрын
My way to solve this one: ab + c = 2020 ---(1) a + bc = 2021 ---(2) Now (2) - (1): a -ab + bc -c = 2020 - 2021 => a(1 - b) -c(1 - b) = 1 => (a -c)(1 -b) = 1 ---(3) From equation (3): Both factors could possibly be either -1 or 1 itself. i.e. Case-1: Either (a -c) = -1 and (1 - b) = -1 Or, Case-2: (a -c) = 1 and (1 -b) = 1 If (a -c) = 1 and (1 -b) = 1; => b = 0, Put this value in eq(1) and (2), we get: c = 2020 and a = 2021. If (a -c) = -1 and (1 -b) = -1 Then b = 2; And we have: 2a + c = 2020 ---(4) a +2c = 2021 ---(5) Subtracting them: a -2a +2c -c = 1 =>c = 1 + a ---(6) Substituting, in (4): 2a + 1 +a = 2020 3a = 2019 Answer set is either, a = 673 b = 2 c = 674 Or, a = 2021 b = 0 c = 2020
@tienphung5871
@tienphung5871 2 ай бұрын
a=2021, b=0, c=2020. a=2019/3, b=2, c= 2022/3
@kagegakurenokuni
@kagegakurenokuni Жыл бұрын
before reading comments i had doubts that an olympiad question could be so simple (probably it's for 7th grade tho), but now i know how many people don't know what an integer is.
@bonevgm
@bonevgm Жыл бұрын
I am embarrassed to say I spend 15 min going in circles until I realized what I need to do and it was solved in 5 min.
@pedagoclown2267
@pedagoclown2267 Жыл бұрын
So great , smooth voice , quiet and logic I enjoy
@jasonsternburgh8363
@jasonsternburgh8363 Жыл бұрын
I brute forced 0's and 1's and found a solution quick. But I'm not taking the test under pressure, I wouldn't have been able to do this in school.
@aurelusentertainment5303
@aurelusentertainment5303 Жыл бұрын
My solution also seems to work a=0 not b, b=2021/2020, c=2020. Waht is wrong with that ?
@kenkennio4452
@kenkennio4452 Жыл бұрын
Sooo... We have few informations. What I found was simple: b belongs to the set of reals, and it can be any real value, with the exception of 0 and 1. For negative b, a>c. For positive b, a
@ctsirkass
@ctsirkass Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you need to pay attention to the question. My suggestion would be to slowly read 3 times and pay attention to each word separately before solving. (hint: we are looking for integer solutions only)
@edemshirinskiy324
@edemshirinskiy324 Жыл бұрын
0.5*2 equals to 1 as well
@pastorgarcia4676
@pastorgarcia4676 Жыл бұрын
There is an infinite solutions, as you can express any variable as dependent of the other two, as that is a two equation system with 3 incognities
@jige1225
@jige1225 Жыл бұрын
There is an additional constraint that a, b, c are integers
@bimokayoba
@bimokayoba 10 ай бұрын
I found b = 0, a = 2021 and c = 2020, is this correct?
@strangersingapore4121
@strangersingapore4121 4 ай бұрын
It's not correct if we substitute it back. This video is not concluded properly ✌️
@bimokayoba
@bimokayoba 4 ай бұрын
@@strangersingapore4121 oh ok
@eddie31415
@eddie31415 Жыл бұрын
Subtracting the two equations work here. I wonder how difficult versions of this problem would look like: I am imagining some function of the first equation + some function of the other equation to give some hint in the general case.
@mig_21bison
@mig_21bison Жыл бұрын
What is the use of these equations...??? Where they are used??? What is the practical application????Please answer
@sobolzeev
@sobolzeev Жыл бұрын
Hm, what is the use of, say, anime pictures? Whom do they depict? What is their application? Please, answer?
@neonblack211
@neonblack211 Жыл бұрын
​@@mig_21bisonif you want to consider science, engineering, physics, absolutely all over the place
@kennethkan3252
@kennethkan3252 4 ай бұрын
ab+c=2020 a+bc=2021 a is must be odd, then b,c is even.
@sammail180
@sammail180 11 ай бұрын
easier to solve using a system of equations. we express A, and then substitute it into the first equation..., and then it’s obvious
@md.mamunorrashed4924
@md.mamunorrashed4924 4 ай бұрын
There should be an infinite number of solutions for this problem. For 3 variables you should have at least 3 different conditions. Otherwise no specific solutions will be found!
@szymcio9931
@szymcio9931 3 ай бұрын
Use your brain before you write something: ab=3 and assuming a and b are integers (just like in the video), you have 1 equation with 2 variables. Still thinking it has infinite solutions?
@md.mamunorrashed4924
@md.mamunorrashed4924 2 ай бұрын
not taking 'integer solution' as a condition was my mistake. either way there should have at least equal number of conditions compare to variable numbers to solve any equation.
@shoutplenty
@shoutplenty Жыл бұрын
not watched the video but the intuition that comes to mind here is that b scales either a or c with very similar results (2020 vs 2021), so a and c must be very close, hence write c in terms of a by substituting d := c - a (so d will be small), and yeah subtracting the top equation from the bottom then gives d(b - 1) = 1, so (c - a)(b - 1) = 1, then it's easy cos they're integers dividing 1
@advertisingagency5840
@advertisingagency5840 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@pakdionmtk
@pakdionmtk 11 ай бұрын
Thank you.. i am watch for 3 minute and subscribe later
@lucianofinardi7222
@lucianofinardi7222 Жыл бұрын
(1-b) (a-c) = 1 can have an infinite combination of multipliers as solutions and not only 1*1 and -1*-1. It could be 0.5 * 2 or 0.25 * 4, etc, etc.
@Crom1980
@Crom1980 Жыл бұрын
But they are not integer.
@ctsirkass
@ctsirkass Жыл бұрын
As my teacher used to say "Read the question 3 times carefully"
@chriscotton4207
@chriscotton4207 4 ай бұрын
So I follow the video everything is going well until you get to a point where it's (1-b) [a-c] Why I'm confused is because multiplication and subtraction properties are different. You do them in different order. How are you able to take a cluster inside parentheses and move it out without affecting the order of operation? You're moving it ahead of its pemdas A+b*c does not equal a*b+c. It worked here but can you help me understand why an addition from one side can move to the multiplication of an unsolved other half.
@zdrastvutye
@zdrastvutye 11 ай бұрын
how does this solve in this universe? 10 for a=1 to 1999:for b=a+1 to 2000 z1=2020-a*b:z2=(2021-a)/b:if z1=z2 then stop next b:next a
@Неиначекак
@Неиначекак Жыл бұрын
Why (1-b) equals (a-c)? 1-b=1/(a-c)
@TuanNguyen12
@TuanNguyen12 7 ай бұрын
a×1/a = 1 ? Test ?
@alster724
@alster724 Жыл бұрын
I have seen this classic Olympiad problem so it is easy for me.
@the-mathwizard
@the-mathwizard Жыл бұрын
Indeed, math is easy if we already seen it before
@irish3353
@irish3353 11 ай бұрын
Its good it says integer solution because with two equations and 3 variables you can get infinite real solutions, lol. a = 1125 b = ⅘ c = 1120 For example. Very nice, I forgot to factor that way, and so I trailed and errored to get (a-c)(1-b).
@ESSServices-x7p
@ESSServices-x7p Жыл бұрын
a= 673; b=2; c=674 and a=2021; b=0; c=2020
@felixmartin9156
@felixmartin9156 2 ай бұрын
What language is this?
@РоманЕфимов-ф2ц
@РоманЕфимов-ф2ц Жыл бұрын
1-b=1/2, a-c=2.
@ghostracer_978
@ghostracer_978 Жыл бұрын
For finding solution for 2a+c=2020 a+2c=2021 Just add the equation Now you get 3a+3c=4041 By factoring, You get, 3(a+c)=4041 Now a+c=4041/3 a+c=1347 Now take any two random numbers that add up to 1347 Lets take a=1000 c=347 Verification: 3a+3c=4041 3x1000+3x347=4041 4041=4041
@shirinmalik2235
@shirinmalik2235 6 ай бұрын
I miss. High school math 6:09
@lancelink88
@lancelink88 Жыл бұрын
That was really amazing.
@abderrahimhilali4092
@abderrahimhilali4092 Жыл бұрын
Why did she Say that we can get 1 just by multiplying 1x1 or -1x(-1) ? Can’t we use for example 2x(1/2),3x(1/3) ... and so on ?
@the-mathwizard
@the-mathwizard Жыл бұрын
It says only integer, so we cant use fraction
@JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke
@JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke Жыл бұрын
I tried solving this with substitution before watching the video and got stumped. Nice use of factorials.
@Shiraori999
@Shiraori999 Жыл бұрын
Besides the 0 solution. C=674 A=673 B=2
@smt4940
@smt4940 6 ай бұрын
but n*1/n=1 how you can say it is 1 or -1?
@akinamegu9896
@akinamegu9896 9 ай бұрын
hhhhh lucky for you that ( a & b & c ) were integers and not floats 😛
@KingSalah1
@KingSalah1 Жыл бұрын
Isnt that just a Matrix which ist diagonal?
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