France’s 3 Big Parties’ Manifestos Compared

[@phoenixfire6433]

Putting everything else aside I’m just impressed that a stable leftist faction managed to form without spontaneously decaying into its components

[@calin6327]

I mean it's been 12 days so far

[@captainnakou]

it's because they did it 2 years ago. so the bases were there in term of program, all they needed was another occasion to unite.

[@RationalistMH]

the threat of the far right coming to power is stronger than ever, so having a common enemy can be pretty unifying

[@Rainforestdelight]

They will immediately disband and start fighting each other again day one after the election.

[@mathias9542]

Dont speak so soon

[@andareas1114]

It's important to note that polls shown in the video are not representative of potential results. French legislative elections are held in 2 turns with a uninominal majority ballot (as opposed to modt of european parliaments using proportional vote), and some second turn elections can have more than 2 candidates running, the one with the biggest score wining the local election. This means that each local election can have completely different outcomes. The National Assembly can next month have a absolute majority (289 PR to do so) or just be completely blocked. Each local election brings new odds, which is what makes this election very difficult to predict.

[@ReddRubble]

Guess what hehe

[@brainlesscactus3184]

4:00 NFP proposes to raise the minimum wage to 1600€ not 2000€

[@tctncr8601]

It's 2000€ without tax

[@devtogoru]

2000 brut

[@pako7954]

They're not taxes but differed payment as these contributions ensure paid leave, social security, pensions etc... not the same idea as they have a clear destination and are not debated when the government proposes a budget

[@user-yx3wu8vt2w]

1600 net

[@fungo6631]

@@pako7954 Just call 'em taxes.

[@fungo6631]

Privatizing the public broadcaster? That ain't gonna end well.

[@noefillon1749]

Gift for their far right friend Bolloré ?? He already owns several channels including one news channel which is basically far right propaganda

[@PWLfr]

It was already ongoing but they just want to give it to Bolloré

[@bramobin]

they love that idea because billionaires and capital are always putting their max effort in defending the far right and smashing the left.

[@cd1542]

The public broadcaster is great but to political; it is more and more about bashing the right wing parties. Some people are getting upset to see their taxes used pay some journalist or comics, who's job is basiczly to insult their views.

[@pierrehalb4675]

@@cd1542exactly, they have a left leaning bias that does not fit with france s current political life

[@sophieedel6324]

France has the right idea that Europe needs to buy European. 80% of Europe's defense spending flows to the US, Europe is subsidizing US defense companies. Europe also needs to develop its own tech industry and reject US tech colonisalism. But France also needs to not try to put their companies first in this whole narrative, Europe's competitors are the US and China, not other EU countries.

[@Maplelust]

nope. 😊

[@ribbon8677]

​@@Maplelustdayum that's next level arguing

[@futabamajima]

if you are basing this off the Reuters article from this year, you were close but slightly incorrect - 80% of defence spending from EU countries goes to non EU countries, 60% goes to the US. I still agree with your overall point though

[@looseycanon]

Problem is, we Europeans don't have a candle compared to US gear particularly in the air...

[@Donut-fr7is]

​@@looseycanonWhat about the Eurofighter??

[@cslp9407]

This dude has come so far from 3 years ago his voice is so fuckin clear and annunciated (the tldr guy not the people the video is talking about)

[@aghi27]

Les français qui débattent entre eux en anglais dans les coms 😂😂😂

[@RipCityBassWorks]

Proportional representation and a citizens referendum is supported by both the right and left? Could those actually be accomplished?

[@Bb13190]

no, because none of them will vote for the other's proposition. Even if they want it too.

[@casteddu6740]

​@@Bb13190 I don't see why When Macron proposed a law to restrict immigration a few months ago RN voted in favour and when it passed they called it an ideological victory. If both left and right want one thing I believe that regardless who has the majority in the assembly the other side will vote in favour too, then using it also as a way to make propaganda for themselves

[@Bb13190]

@casteddu6740 it is not the same. Here we were talking about left and right, not right with center-right. And the immigration law was a political move by the RN. In the morning Bardella said they will not vote for it because it was too soft, and in the afternoon (same law) Le Pen said they will vote for it because it is the right direction. But the main goal was to embarrass the presidential camp by endorsing their law, and they succeeded.

[@casteddu6740]

@@Bb13190 still I don't see why voting against something you want too just because your opponent is the one proposing it I mean, maybe there could be details proposed by one side that the other ones doesn't want, but the default idea is shared so voting againt might actually put them in a bad light with their electorate I'm not saying you're wrong, politics can be like that, but I wouldn't take it for granted

[@Bb13190]

@@casteddu6740 I agree with you that it doesn't make sense. And maybe they will change, but our political class (I am French) is truly terrible in that regards (and many other). And the electorate doesn't know and doesn't care who vote for what in the parlement, so they don't really have an incentive to change.

[@avengedsefenvold8990]

They are mistakes in this video, you probably confuse the LFI program et the NFP program which is definitely not the same thing (even if LFI is in the NFP)

[@dimitraartistautisticidiotr]

What should we do? We're peprearing for Civil War? Over La Pen's Dictatorial Power?

[@generalpignouf2746]

No he didn't go read the manifesto of the New popular front, there his a reaseon why both the right and the center call this alliance "the devil pact" all the soft left party submitted to the extremes

[@lalasmithix]

Well it’s legit as the NFP program is almost a copy paste of LFI’s

[@alexandredumez932]

@@lalasmithix pfff that's so grotesque

[@yalassa1]

what are these mistakes exactly?

[@jorenbaplu5100]

The wealth tax is probably the only plan a party has to pay for all their extraordinary amounts of spending

[@maurokjr984]

It won't work

[@julianothoms5391]

And it won't even scrape the surface of the debt.

[@jorenbaplu5100]

@julianothoms5391 meanwhile the others promise to keep spending, without any plan at all. Just saying that it at least is a plan

[@maurokjr984]

@@jorenbaplu5100 You have no idea what you are talking about. The exact reason Europe is in the situation we are in is because we enacted all these social policies after WW2 when we had a baby boom - that's not the case today and we can't afford it. More importantly, it's very easy to give people new rights but it's nearly impossible to take them back. It's very easy to play Robinhood and increase spending without increasing revenue (Taxing the wealthy is not making France richer, quite the opposite..)

[@jorenbaplu5100]

@maurokjr984 I do know that the other parties will keep spending more money without any plan to fill that hole (according to their own party programs)

[@finalbanese9359]

Nice thumbnail

[@dimitraartistautisticidiotr]

Who are against?

[@EggsBenAddict]

Yeah, it does look good

[@2Links]

Have to agree, definitely a nice one. The striking colors make it pop out while remaining tasteful

[@ParlonsAstronomie]

Except that they put someone who doesn't stand for election and has never been a headliner in the movement he's supposed to represent.

[@breaderikthegreat3224]

France is rightful Romanian territory

[@forsteaua]

Skillshare are scammers, stop advertising them

[@First-Name--Last-Name]

Don't buy it then

[@michaelwellen2866]

I mean, every company that pays for KZbin videos is a scammer. It pays for good content though.

[@MichaelDavis-mk4me]

So is most stuff being advertised, TLDR needs money to make content, so just ignore the adds, like a normal person.

[@JackJanuary]

@@michaelwellen2866ground news seems pretty good imo

[@alexrevolution1]

best use sponsorblock and that way you don't even see the sponsorships

[@sirati9770]

proportional represention would be a good thing tho!

[@whoviansonskaro17]

A few things: - Using Melenchon in the thumbnail to represent the New Popular Front is misleading. Unlike with the NUPES, Melenchon is not the NFP's leader, and is very unlikely to be. He's a hugely repulsive figure for the left to the general population unfortunately, only the mainstream media try to depict him as the NFP leader to decredibilise the alliance. -I haven't seen the NFP credited of 35% anywhere yet, I think you got the number confused with that of the National Rally -Raising the minimum wage to 2000€ a month? Is that before taxes? Because the number they provide in their manifesto is 1600€ after taxes. -Careful when talking of 'far-left' parties. France unbowed/LFI, just like the Communist Party, are not considered 'far-left', as per decision of the Conseil d'Etat. I will concede that the NPA and its figurehead Philippe Poutou, who is a candidate for the NFP, are indeed considered 'far-left' -It might have been worth mentioning each party's take on environment and climate issues.

[@sqoualalaobikord9690]

The NFP's tactic to only talk about 1600$ net is to make it seem like it's not outlandish. But when we talk about salary in economics or politics it's always in its brute form because that way you also have the weight it has on firms. But what they don't tell you is that this raise of the SMIC is a trap, it will raise the floor of french buying power, which means all prices will go up accorldingly because "everyone can afford them now". Inflation will shoot through the roof, and they also never talk about salaries that were above the SMIC before that will now become SMIC, the simcardisation of the country will lower all those people's living standards.

[@whoviansonskaro17]

@@sqoualalaobikord9690 A lot of things you're saying here have been debunked by economists. Raising the minimum wage rarely and barely impacts inflation, because raising people's purchasing power will essentially make the economy flourish and, inflation already being high, prices will stabilise. Obv there's a lot of factors at play, I advise you check La France Insoumise's "desintox" of their program on their website, see what Michael Zemmour or Thomas Piketty have to say about it. Also, salaries already above the minimum wage will go up with indexation of wages. What you describe is what has already been happening for years: minimum wage going up while other salaries stagnate

[@pandasan4374]

​@@カスカディア国人 There's been a fierce anti-Mélenchon media campaign on issues such as the unclear position of France Unbound on Hamas, alleged antisemitism on pro-Palestinian positions, supporting riots/revolts about police violence, and his party's agressive rethoric in the national assembly (these are just the more recent exemples). Overall, he has been the main radical left leader for more than 10 year and his radical positions have always been held against him. He has himself been clean in his 50+ years political carrier (to my knowledge), but he supported a guy in the party who commited domestic abuse.

[@Mousquetaire-du-Roi]

​@@カスカディア国人 He speaks about native white french people like they're a pest that must be turned brown. "Métissage" is the word he uses, and says that they're a destabilising force to the newer french population. He's turned against all the traditional french leftist views he held 15 years ago in favour of a strange alliance with political Islam. It's not just media exaggeration, he isn't the man he was before.

[@silv3rArrow]

Also the “minimum wage” in France is not as common as you think as most jobs fall into “categories” and each of those categories has a minimum wage assigned to them

[@Rigel_6]

I mean, who French vote in is the French business, but I seriously hope they don't throw the rest of the continent under the bus and try to be friends with Kremlin. It never ends good

[@t.c.4321]

I suppose you would want the French to sell their country to the communists and the Islamists 👍

[@coconut7490]

Meloni came around with her euro scepticism and pro-russia stuff after being elected so I’m guess it will probably the same case here, you need to be more moderate once in office. Hopefully anyways.

[@jhunt5578]

Friends no, diplomacy yes. The policy of pushing nato further and further east and threatening to put Ukraine into Nato was clearly bad diplomacy.

[@krashme997]

@@jhunt5578 There was no "pushing" NATO further east. The countries asked to join. Heck, Poland even blackmailed Clinton to be allowed into NATO. Also, there was no "threat" either. In 2014, France and Germany refused to accept Ukraine into NATO because of russian "security concerns". In the next few months, there were Russian boots on Ukrainian ground. I'd argue that had NATO accepted Ukraine, Russia wouldn't have dared attack it and we would be at peace right now. The threat came from Russia, and the West tried to be too conciliatory, which Russia saw as weakness and as an opportunity to invade. All in all, bowing to Putin was bad diplomacy.

[@zergling2621]

​@jhunt5578 not really. NATO didn't give a crap about ukraine until recently. The Euromaidan scared the Russians because they were about to lose their sphere of influence, then the little green men came and rest is history.

[@abdenorali177]

France highest court stated that the Popular Front is left, not far left

[@whyucomingfast9972]

Fair enough but are you trying to imply not one of those 53 Left wing parties that are together have extreme/far left views ? Cmon now

[@abdenorali177]

@@whyucomingfast9972 I am talking about the political program

[@akaRyuka]

@@whyucomingfast9972 they don't. The program is a classic socialist/left program. Would you call May 68 a "far left revolution"? I wouldn't. It was what the left is about. Only NPA (anti-capitalist party) and PCF (communist party) would be considered far left, but they're a tiny minority in the NFP coalition.

[@FunnyParadox]

​@@whyucomingfast9972Only 3 guys in the coalition (out of 577) are from the far-left (an antifa, a communist, and an anticapitalist)

[@felixloiseau828]

@@whyucomingfast9972 53? and yeah so of them are, but ppl are saying LFI is, while it is not, and there is 0 far left proposition in the NFP program, so no, its not far left by any means

[@Nekoala]

You forgot to say that Popular Front is the only one of these three contenders to have thought out and published a (detailed) financial plan. They're also backed by top-ranking economists. So, Macron's claim for his opponent's program to be unfinanceable is a big joke.

[@DoomoBebop]

Not even "top ranking" we talking about nobel prize of economy over there ! 🎉

[@NalydWoW1]

@@DoomoBebopcan you link me your source, this interests me

[@weeeek1933]

@@NalydWoW1 unexistent source lol it's pure propaganda, nobody is backing that crazy public deficit monster, nobody

[@grinsgefal]

That bit about proportional representation looked promising. But the real plans aim for only a fraction of seats that are allocated this way. So France's electoral system would stay quite flawed and skewed. Suboptimal in terms of pure democracy.

[@lennard9331]

Pure proportionality is a bad electoral system for larger countries with a heterogeneous population distribution. Not only does it reduce communication between individual legislators and members of the public, but it also incentivises party politics (which is a massive flaw of modern democracy) and focus on large urban areas.

[@grinsgefal]

@@lennard9331 interesting point of view. So a country basically can be too big to function properly? How about Germany? They have proportional representation as well and the country is even bigger. Isn't it all about the right balance? Size shouldn't matter if we are talking about proportionality.

[@christianfournier6862]

The suggestion to adopt in France a partial PR system (sort of akin to Germany's) has been proposed by Constitutional law experts as a way to let the smaller parties have a voice in Parliament but without taking the Government hostage. In countries such as Israel with an integral PR system, extremist parties can hold the swing votes in Parliament and thus in effect can control the Government's policies. PR works when the Country does not have big decisions to make; for a decisive vote: FPTP; for a system giving voters the opportunity to vent their grievances, then vote 'useful': 2 step elections, as the French now have. American voters clamoring for FPTP do not know what FPTP leads to; the French have lived with FPTP during the 15 ungovernable years of the IVth Republic!

[@GuessIIIwho]

NFP has the good idea. It basically follows economy principle of stimulating demand to increase economy's activity. That worked for the 1929 crisis and in 2022 in the US.

[@tiglishnobody8750]

Isn't 1929 the year where Great Depression start to surface?

[@GuessIIIwho]

@@tiglishnobody8750 went too fast, meant "for the 1929 crisis" in my head Ty :)

[@p_1945]

​@@tiglishnobody8750he maybe meant to FDR new deal I think.

[@karankapoor2701]

It's also good for islamist​@@GuessIIIwho

[@BraceletGrolf]

mitterand tried this, it doesn't work when you import everything, if you produce the bulk of your goods locally it could work.

[@jim83213]

Whoever made this thumbnail should be proud

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

Looks pretty bland

[@merwan1018]

Melenchon isn t the leader of NFP tho

[@imya234]

thumbnail is actually heaps good ngl. yous need to use more colours often, ditch using the blue rectangle on the side and make them more vibrant

[@NicklasZandeVGCP2001]

I think I like the Popular Front's platform the best.

[@811see]

if you don't understand why the retirement age was raised in the first place. Its not the best, very far from it.

[@MaganSSB]

​@@811seeit's not their only mesure and i've seen tons of economists say that pushing back tve retirement age was very unnecessary but you probably know better than them

[@bugurul]

You must like Islamism

[@napoleonfeanor]

Auditing of the state accounts is always good. There shouldn't be a universal pension age across all professions. My mom works in the tax office in my country and requested additional years. Many physical labourers cannot work until the official pension age

[@matteoricci9129]

Cc

[@alix9751]

The thing is that there is already an audit of the State finance. It was done by the Cour des Comptes.

[@GuessIIIwho]

It's already done very often. Bardella says they need to audit to throw a smokescreen. 100% this law will never happen

[@inbb510]

Then that's just a problem of the State not offering enough office work for people who are becoming more physically vulnerable but still below the pension age. In France the problem is especially bigger with regards to this as it is difficult to move between jobs as you age.

[@looseycanon]

Not sure, if I can agree... The problem with audits is, that the politician then gets to spin it. They either cherry pick or twist the numbers, instead of just plain reporting it's findings and making holistic changes based on expert advice and said audit... If an audit is going to be used as politicians typically do, then it's a waste of money and a PR firm would have been cheaper. As to your comment about physical laborers... well, that is their problem. The market has changed drastically and we have to adapt, or be swept away. The guaranties and assurances of our parents and grandparents are gone, either by them not being sustainable (retirement) or being just abandoned, because it saves money (employer loyalty was killed by employers years ago), so thinking, you will only do one job in life is foolhardy these days. Even if the reason for leaving a job is health, a worker has to prepare for it and be ready to pivot into another field, as hard as it is.

[@SuccessMindset2180]

Information about France’s political parties would be very useful in close future

[@AMultipolarWorldIsEmerging]

People always talk about the “extremes” of the left and the right as if the center isn’t incredibly extreme. The left and right will always be extreme even if you live in Hitler Germany’s you can say oh we want to stop the “extremes” of the left and right. It’s just a way to make the status quo sound reasonable and normal which it is anything but

[@akaRyuka]

And as a matter of fact, the Nouveau Front Populaire isn't even extreme-left, it's left and the state council said so. But center to alt-right parties keep calling us extreme-left because it makes us look bad and crazy. They compare us to Stalin, Mao, Chavez, etc, they want to paint us so bad as authoritarian communists. Meanwhile the alt-right call themselves just "right", but the state council, again, said their party was extreme-right and not just right.

[@drashyagoel5782]

I wanted to order your Too Long magazine issue, but a €7 charge for a non-tracked shipping to Paris is simply too excessive. I don't really understand why the shipping charge is this high. Too bad.

[@blitz8221]

In Norway we used to have a party called National Rally (Nasjonal Samling, NS). It came to power in 1940... Edit: Not saying they're literal fascists or nazis, just that the names are literally the same.

[@MagicNash89]

Such a low value comment. I can also say we in Estonia had a party called "Communist party" and it came to power also in 1940. Guess what, that party and very close party to them are in the so called "New Popular Front".

[@generalpignouf2746]

Yes and the old popular front voted the Maréchal pétain's full power in vichy and it also was in 1940

[@mycodingchannel9690]

lmao

[@taissellin1446]

@@generalpignouf2746c’est faux. Ça ne sert pas à grand chose de répéter des poncifs dont l’origine vous est inconnue. Je vous invite donc à vous renseigner sur ce vote et la répartition des voix.

[@Fe_lix]

@@generalpignouf2746 The old popular front wasn't existing anymore for 2 years when Pétain gained power. This is a lie repeated on far right groups currently but that doesn't make it true.

[@maikotter9945]

7:50 a joke! an inhabitant of England: "How do you call a hung parliament?" everbody else: "We call it parliament!"

[@jebbibebe3641]

Glad to see both major parties aim to support proportional representation and citizen initiatives, we cant have a true democracy without them

[@byunbaekhyun2283]

macron will say PR are against "republican values" 🤣

[@calimhero2474]

the leftist came back on that

[@byunbaekhyun2283]

@@calimhero2474 it's on their manifesto, stop spreading lies.

[@calimhero2474]

@@byunbaekhyun2283 i am french bro , i know them for a long time, their union were made by littéral nazis , idk how thy can pretend to be democratic they recently came back on their declaration about the retirement reform , and about all the taxes part

[@byunbaekhyun2283]

@@calimhero2474 i'm french, i know what happens here lol. nazi? you're saying the leftists are nazi?? oh boy, you've been fed too much actual nazi (RN) propaganda.

[@wildfire9280]

As is usual, less contested land value taxes are once again sidelined in a push for significant tax reform.

[@breaderikthegreat3224]

France is turning into Komi from TNO

[@MaxTheLazyCat]

Let's hope a french taboritsky doesn't appear saying they'll be regent for napoleon or louis XVI

[@darthsidious4807]

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[@cantthinkofaname812]

God I really didn’t think someone would make this reference

[@biteof78]

Here goes the terminally online folk

[@Grayg]

Melanchon=Suslov?

[@imarandomperson761]

By the way, Bardella has stated that he would not accept the position of PM if the National Rally doesn't get an absolute majority during the deputy elections, so I'm praying very very strongly

[@dibilidiot604]

Building 8 nuclear records is worth voting for. Le Pen can’t reindustrialise if there is no excess energy

[@dibilidiot604]

She would be able to reindustrialised if the president before Macron had built nuclear reactors

[@aesma2522]

Le Pen is also in favor of nuclear energy. We can assume the RN would continue the current plan. However they want to ban wind and solar energy which is utterly stupid.

[@pierrereynaud784]

@@aesma2522 RN is not green, nuclear is highly efficient and has proven to be the best solution for cheap energy, how much would you need to provide the same amount of electricity that a nuclear plant does? Not worth it

[@mapk1516]

Tbf all three factions are pro nuclear or have political parties within their coalitions that are pro Nuclear

[@nieno9760]

He already promised that since 2017 and nothing concrete came of it for the last 7 years. The only thing that has been announced is an examination on building new reactors by the energy regulators and nothing more. Macron's entire new program is recycling what he already promised, hoping people don't remember that they already said that.

[@nouche]

The far-left portion of the New Popular Front is incredibly small though~ (with Philippe Poutou)

[@ANGELRA]

NFP sounds good on paper, how are they going to balance the budget, it sounds like a certain way to massively increase deficit and inflation. Because it's pretty delusional to really believe that increase wealth tax will be enough to balance the budget.

[@ukyoize]

inflation isn't real

[@2Links]

I mean, no one is able to balance the budget right now, it seems. Macron certainly isn't - his government is running a big deficit for the past several years. In addition, I don't see why a wealth tax wouldn't be able to cover a lot of it. I doubt it will balance the budget completely, but certainly within current limits. As for inflation, the Euro will probably be fine, and the NFP also plan to introduce strategic price controls to fight inflation (See for example the work of Isabella Weber on the subject).

[@3DJMV3]

It's not only wealth tax, it's rebalancing the tax system to become more fair to the middle class. It's also stopping financial aid and tax exemptions to companies that are making superprofits and not complying to social and environmental laws. 2019 Economics Nobel Prize Ester Duflo supported their programme, as well as major economic research and business owners throughout France. The far-right on the other hand, has a completely unbalanced budget and will drive the country into financila bayss because reducing social expenditure is not a big chunk of money.

[@aesma2522]

@@3DJMV3 I haven't seen Duflo actually saying yep, this plan will work. Probably not wanting to risk her credibility on this. She just agrees on the overall idea of taxing the rich more and giving more money to the poor. Also her expertise if that of developing countries, where income inequalities are crazy high (like India). In France they are incredibly low, after taxes and benefits. It's disingenuous to treat France like an average country that could benefit from a bit more tax and spend, France is already the king of tax and spend, and if that many people are unhappy, then clearly it's not working.

[@princess_haze]

​​​@@aesma2522 You're simplifying way too much, and saying that france's income inequalities are super low is an insult to all the poor people of france. I also don't know why everyone depicts france as a super socialist state where we heavily tax the rich and give it back to everyone else. Just because we have better social programs than other countries doesn't mean we are done trying new policies for economic justice. Our billionaires are still stealing workers' labor across the world, they're still buying tv channels to spread ideas in favor of the rich, and there are still so many people getting poorer everyday and people who need homes. Just because we're in the lead on some subjects doesn't mean we're wrong to ask for more!

[@randomname285]

Can anyone give any extra context on what "open a major debate on secularism" means?

[@BagMonster]

7:02 What does "open a major debate on secularism" mean?

[@gaetankelabra1761]

I have no idea too but macron like to invite 100 people from different background to make debates about some subject to get an understanding of the population, then he does nothing about what they said :)

[@sirmiglouche8274]

@@gaetankelabra1761 yes , he's done it 5 or 6 times already and swept it under the rug, it baffles me how whenever he propose something like that he doesn't get immediately shat on

[@LukeGaulMusic]

Hi, I'm really interested in the new publication you advertise at the start of the video, but can't see a link for it in the video description. Am I missing something? Thanks

[@nyri0]

Why put Mélenchon on the cover picture? He doesn't represent the Front Populaire, many on the left are fed up with him and his controversial statements on antisemitism and foreign politics.

[@byunbaekhyun2283]

no such thing as antisemitism, those are actually just anti-zionism.

[@yorkarry192]

@@byunbaekhyun2283he is antisemite

[@nyri0]

@@byunbaekhyun2283 I didn't say they were antisemitic, I mentioned controversial statements. For example Mélenchon said that antisemitism was residual, and absent from popular gatherings.

[@fritoss3437]

France insoumise is the biggest party in the coalition and Melenchon is the leader of La France insoumise

[@triceratops7084]

Get tf away from the left and go to a Macron rally you glorified centrist. There is no anti semetism in pro Palestine protests and NO ONE cares about Ur little accusations when Israhell is commiting a genocide.Also his foreign policy is 10x better than macarons war hawkism that wants war with Russia.We don't wanna ww3 over Ukraine's borders

[@swiphix5846]

4:01 the minimal wage would be 1600€ with a 15% raise, not 2000€

[@Flugs0]

I'm sorry, the left alliance wants to make immigration... less strict?

[@ak-77]

Of course that's what left parties do mate

[@sans_hw187]

They want the Islamization of France and the continent.

[@Flugs0]

@@ak-77 usually yea, but it's not wise at all currently is it

[@295Phoenix]

In France? Ayup. Vote National Rally!

[@ak-77]

@Flugs0 nope not at all but the left have never been known to be the wise type

[@MilkmanMVS]

Well explained dude :)

[@MrDadyD]

These ppl are insane... How can they (both left and right) even possibly believe that these ideas can be paid for? France is already running huge deficits and the state debt is 100%+

[@josephstalin2829]

It’s called taxing the rich son

[@St0rrrm]

immigration costs 35 billion a year to France (according to OECD) so the right can save a lot of money by cutting benefits to foreigners/illegals

[@yungnonsense69]

Through the debt they make africa pay for their freedom

[@malogibeaux4946]

@@St0rrrm that number is completely scroodged and even assuming that it's true, tax evasion equates to more than 1000 billions euros a year.

[@ulkinnalmyud3133]

And how rich people can get even richer while the population keep getting poorer ?

[@Holo_wallenstein]

France already has a huge deficit, I see the intention to lower taxes but where is the missing money coming from? They only increase spending but lower income, even with the taxing of the rich, it will be way less than current earnings

[@noisikan917]

We do get a deficit anyway, so better spend it to rebuild our economy. Every time the right is in power, they say "dont spend too much" and end up being the one making the more déficit. The left in France are historically the one who create the less deficit. This argument is nonsense.

[@philguer4802]

The Front Populaire is the only party in this election to have make a detailed,long program with numeric prediction of expenses and revenues. They will 1)apply high taxes on the ultra wealthy 2)use the increased expenses to relaunch the economy and increase eemand You don't understand how much of the wealth is owned by the ultra-wealthy, even in France.

[@tanasaky]

Macron is swiftly finding out that "Let's just continue the same way and no, we're not gonna spend any more on you, people" is not enticing anyone to vote for him. You need something to energize the voters, sitting on your laurels is just not working.

[@ParlonsAstronomie]

Especially when everyone depsite your laurels.

[@woosix7735]

There isn’t a debt “crisis” or in any case that is a contested opinion

[@soundscape26]

Is it me or they picked that Bardella guy just based on his looks? What's his academical/technical background?

[@aur.c]

Bardella is the husband of Le Pen's niece, and he is charismatic, I think that's the two things that prioritised him

[@dimitraartistautisticidiotr]

What should we do? We're peprearing for Civil War? Over La Pen's Dictatorial Power?

[@dimitraartistautisticidiotr]

What should we do? We're peprearing for Civil War? Over La Pen's Dictatorial Power?

[@Nat-uw4fs]

Ah yes, because everyone know that democracies elect people based on their academics smh

[@soundscape26]

@@Nat-uw4fs A certain level of personal accomplishment and a sense of them knowing what they are doing is always somewhat of requirement for someone who wants to be a PM.

[@scorpioninpink]

No wonder Macron's party is trailing.

[@MadameDeSquiggles]

Wealth tax is a very important idea. The rising wealth inequality is one of the biggest threats to our democratic societies. The fact that the Green Party in the UK has proposed one is the sole reason that I'm going to vote for them. I feel that strongly about it.

[@ПётрШашин-п2у]

Taxing the rich more is not going to solve wealth inequality. It's just going to make harder to become rich. And billionaires will always have means to protect their money. Rich people will flee France and take their money with them, making the country poorer. That's socialism for you.

[@pixelboy7654]

Feeling is not the same as facts. There are plenty of countries with wealth inequality where there is little poverty. The problem you should be addressing is government's failure to create conditions to fight poverty like affordable housing, cheap food, good schooling, infrastructure, etc

[@dererik9070]

​@@pixelboy7654 The problem here is not poverty (even ho that is a huge problem in general) the problem that money is power and if we allow power to concentrate on very few hands that is the end of democracy

[@coconut7490]

If these wealth taxes actually do something other than force the rich to move their account offshore and migrate to tax havens like Monaco then I will be very pleasantly surprised. Wealth inequality is at an all time high now due to QE during the pandemic, asset holders benefited immensely during it, it’s the classic case of the government making a problem worse and now having to fix it.

[@coconut7490]

@@pixelboy7654Well tbf, countries with wealth inequality and little poverty require competent governments and great social safety net, they also require a managable and reasonable amount of population growth/immigration which is even rarer these days.

[@greendsnow]

So they want to spend money that they don't have.... Hmmm let's see how it goes with other euro members :-/

[@MaganSSB]

Maybe they'll actually tax more to have that money ???

[@yomzenri604]

it's 1600 euros a month for the minimum wage not 2000 !

[@bereny45]

Brut pas net. A l'étranger les parlent en brut quasi tout le temps.

[@andrejparunovic]

So why did anyone not vote for the Popular Front?

[@snowcold5932]

The macronists have been decrying them as "far left extremists" and Macron even said they planned a "totally immigrationist program" and wanted to "have sex changes done by mayors". This demonisation has been echo'd by billionaire-owned mainstream media. In an attempt to save their bloc by presenting themselves as the "only reasonable ones", the liberals lost all credibility, and equated social democrats to a party founded by the Waffen-SS.

[@the_pinkerton]

Good news guys they came first in the race

[@sadeksama5057]

NFP all the way And their foreign policy is very well balanced and maintains the sovereignty of France Whats ironic is that the left is now holding the foreign policy of the traditional right of the leader of France Charles de Gaulle , de Gaulle made sure that France should always stay independent in its foreign policy and not just follow the USA in what it does He even had issues with how nato operates and he understood that france had lost its global super power status after world war 2 so the only in which France can keep its sovereignty is to support third world countries

[@MichaelDavis-mk4me]

Yeah, I'm sure the NFP opening the gate even wider to migrants and giving them TONS of money couldn't possibly backfire horribly. But hey, France is going to be France. Vote for a leftist coalition whose goal is to do the exact same mistake as François Hollande who almost destroyed his country's economy and completely botched immigration, leading to the deaths of hundreds of people through T-attacks, by far the most of the Western world. But hey, when hasn't France's politics not being a complete mess, why end the circus?

[@gaetankelabra1761]

T'es con

[@AuxaneST]

Luckily this is France and the president holds the reigns in foreign policy.

[@sadeksama5057]

@@AuxaneST even macron has that de Gaulle in him lol He doesn't like nato that much and wants Europe and France to be independent from the United States He wants Europe to stop depending on nato ( USA ) for its defense and wants to build a strong united European force to protect Europe from foreign threats His views on gaza aren't great but they are definitely better than the US and France

[@arjulan2098]

It will not happen,dont dream...

[@Christophe.C]

Could you guys make a video about where Ukraine sits in the EU as being a candidate country? Some clarification would be nice..

[@scottbrayton9484]

As an American it's nice to see that the neoliberal tendency to kick left at all times is not a purely American problem.

[@alexlehrersh9951]

Marx is Murks

[@gerardanderson9665]

Neoliberalism caused most of the problems the right always complain about like mass migration and immigration because of Neoliberal Imperialist wars that caused massive destruction and suffering within the global South which lead to the migration "crisis" y'all are whining all the time.

[@lexxihd5843]

@@alexlehrersh9951 Yes because all left policies are Marxist. Marx is very far left. Most left parties wouldn't like him.

[@chicagomike]

Nutty people . The left is for human beings the right is for rich

[@playlist1883]

I appreciate the effort, but without any critical analysis, I don't really see the point of a video like this.

[@ParlonsAstronomie]

It make the basic information available for people that know nothing about France.

[@prohacker5086]

Popular Front is delusional

[@Bruteforce765]

And LePen isn't? Lowering retirement age to dunk on Macron is based

[@Maximum950]

​​​​@@Bruteforce765 and widening the border for more unwanted immigrants? Didn't Europeans make themselves clear last week we don't want anymore? And their plans are the same garbage socialists all over the world have done in south America destroyed the economy of their respective countries. " tax the rich more" as if France doesn't already have a progressive tax system. Tax them more and they'll leave and then you have no capital for the market to grow. Price fixing is also a policy that creates fertile ground for rampant corruption. And wanting to reduce the pension age by 4 without understanding the financial position that France is currently in

[@ehannasir8464]

National Rally is trying to eventually ban head scarves in public mainly due to recent muslim migrants but the muslims who have lived their for generations will also be punished, they mix immigrants with muslim like there is no difference like they are all foreign and should be pushed away no matter if they assimilate or not as they are not "french" enough. The Popular Front is meh but the NR are extremely short sighted and will cause even more instability especially after Macron changed the status quo to just be able to ban protest if they are "likely to generate disturbances to public order" which is what protesting is, france is eroding it's own liberties and it doesn't even realise the full extent

[@ukyoize]

ok liberal

[@balazshangyasi3018]

@@Bruteforce765 Economic collapse in a year if they implement their "policies"

[@rc6810]

5:36 what is your source for this quote?

[@calccalccalc]

i am now invested in this now that the left are finally showing up.

[@dpo1768]

We need a coalition like NFP in the US so bad. If our left wing parties actually worked together we could at least get double-digit votes in one election and get more people to actually pay attention to American Left. Democrats’ centrism will always fail and end up giving up power to our far right, we need desperately need a left-wing opposition

[@Thephilosophylover-t2b]

Unfortunately because of your FPTP system a NFP-like party would only result in huge gains for the Republicans.

[@Freezyloen]

I know French people hate Macron (and I'm probably missing a lot as I'm getting most of my news on French politics from TLDR only), but Ensemble seems so utterly clearly infinitely better than the other two big ones. Like, it's not even CLOSE. I would even go so far as to say that a party with a similar manifesto is exactly what we are missing here in the Netherlands.

[@joaquimbarbosa896]

EXACLY The only party with solid plans for energy, security, foreign relations, re industrialization etc

[@blank2588]

Neoliberal cringe

[@Freezyloen]

@@blank2588 Absolutely fair (I'm not even a neoliberal), and even still the others are left in the dust 😄

[@diegoyuiop]

Absolutely, lowering retirement age right now is mental

[@iveneverhadagoodusername8808]

​@@blank2588 Better then Neo-fascism and A economic debt increase by 500%

[@prplt]

again you put a mirrored image of Macron on the thumbnail 😂

[@BenjaminKeller]

I know nothing about the Popular Front but the way they are described they seem great and I don’t understand how they aren’t leading the polls.

[@noisikan917]

Because all europe is going right. And the traditionnal media in France are now held by some conservative billionnaire (Bolloré, Drahi...) But we might win.

[@WSEDT-re6mn]

Because LFI and the NPA are toxic. Anti-West, supporting and supported by Islamists, anti-semitic, brutalise public debate, inept economically, pro-Putin, anti-nuclear, anti-feminist etc etc... us soc-dems will not support this coalition.

[@arkdeso2864]

It always have been like this in history, left ideas are good on paper but practically never work. the populair front wealth tax can go up to 90% of the person salary, nothing better than that to destroy every ambitious project that people could have in France. they want almost a total free immigration, i don't know if you know the immigration crisis in France, but basically people from immigration in France are located in particular area causing a decline of the respect of french cultur and rules (and West morals), then having a lot of their young people being totally disrecpectul to law and police and have i believe a higher crime ratio than the french. So the debate is between helping the ones who need or protect ourselves against the high risk of islam from their youngs (we're at the point when some respectful people from immigration tell they will vote for national rally) and last point, ironically, the Popular front is currently the most violent one, they litteraly said "a dead policeman is one less national rally vote", they burn what they can during a protest (contrary a to a recent right protest who was calm...), and are ultra aggressive (a group a feminist criticizing one of their candidate during a protest and got beaten up by leftist, if they didn't have security guards to take the hits imagine what could have happened) and there even a probabily they do violent riot if the national rally win. so you see they're clearly not the kind of leftist who respect the freedom of others and democracy...

[@karined8237]

Because they are dangerous 😅

[@princess_haze]

Higher taxes doesn't destroy anything. When was the last time a rich entrepreneur had an ambitious project for any country? They are only ambitious about profit, not innovation and well being of the population. Immigration doesn't lead to a decline in french culture and values, it's a lie spread by far right media to scare people. It's just racism in disguise. The NFP has been repainted as a scary party to disqualify them politically, there have been a lot a false accusations of antisemitism recently and I know that anti Semitism is to be taken very seriously, but the NFP is just pro Palestinian.

[@jenna2431]

And not one of them vowing to force their religion on everyone.

[@TheZerech]

French Jews have never had so few choices. Most will vote for Macron's alliance, but other are voting for the RN, which has at least made an effort to distance itself from antisemites rather than embrace them like LFI and the "Popular Front." Something perhaps unthinkable until the last couple years, but now a painful reality. Nobody in their right mind thinks that the LFI believes in any of the parts of the Popular Front's points against Hamas or supporting French Jews, and the plan to embargo Israel especially underscores this despicable compromise. When the RN is removing antisemites, the LFI is embracing Islamists. Anybody who thinks that they could handle the threat of Islamist terrorism is smoking too much grass. The recent gang-rape of a Jewish 12 y/o girl by two 13 y/os and one 12 y/o boy because of her Judaism is just the lastest disturbing and disgusting sign that something is deeply wrong in France. Something which needs a decisive and immediate solution.

[@295Phoenix]

Absolutely agree! It's a shame that France's Left went to lalaland, they'd do well to learn from Denmark's example.

[@AuxaneST]

Glücksman dropped the ball. They beat LFI in their European election results! He should have gone for it alone.

[@PlayVac]

What are you actually saying ? When was LFI antisemetic ? Cite me one sentence of any LFI deputy that says otherwise ? One comment that hasn't been debunked or misinterpreted, wether it was on purpose or not ? Do you know that almost all, if not all french private media are owned by far right leaning groups ? That they repeat this false informations to descredit them ? Even when they were proved to be lying, they just change subject each and everytime. Even for these elections, Bolloré's media groups have organized some programs to promote far right, and have even been warned by french's state audiovisual commitee/authority. It's unfortunate that this much fake news has been spread around, wether you fall in line with their political ideas or not

[@theflashgordon193]

It's hurt to see those media propaganda is working. And wanting to stop the war and the massacre of Palestinian isn't antisemitic

[@FarberBob678]

I wonder how many Jews will vote for Éric Zemmour's party

[@ParSimpson]

Just social issues when Europe is entering an economic crisis... and increasing authoritarism from all sides? Wth

[@BlakeLyon-xw7of]

So the far left, will raise min wage 15% tell business they can't raise prices. Raise taxes on people and business and if they want to leave tax them to leave. Then pay government employees more. Yeah that won't destroy the private sector.

[@alex30425]

Progressive taxation is the best model of taxation.

[@Drkon6]

​@@alex30425 Don't tell them that, let them be scared of the spooky tax word and be happy paying more private expenses.

[@gaetankelabra1761]

Good summary of communism. Oh wait, that was a summary of nfp plans... :/

[@Cat_Guevara]

The private sector deserves to be repressed, it is run by greedy, amoral ghouls who boil our planet dry and get fat on the suffering of West African workers.

[@josephstalin2829]

They’ve also said they intend to provide financial support for small companies, and that the blocking and subsequent lowering of energy prices will compensate for the rise in minimum wages. They also hope that the rise in wages will re-inject money in the local economy, making businesses prosper more. It’s called stimulating demand. And it’s not communism, it’s basic Keynesianism.

[@mapk1516]

Of the left I think Fabien Rouselle should be the leader of the coalition. Its very rare to have a pro nuclear hard lefty in politics, so hopefully he can make the Left embrace Nuclear power.

[@diegoyuiop]

And the communists are not lunatics unlike LFI

[@napakapa1046]

It would be weird to select someone from a party that can't get above 3% of the vote.

[@mapk1516]

​@@diegoyuiopit's weird to know that the communists are the most sensible of the French left wing

[@mapk1516]

​@@napakapa1046The way I see it in the event that they somehow win, they'll need to decide who the prime minister should be and I think it would do the Communists and the overall Left well if it were him.

[@napakapa1046]

@mapk1516 Historically, the PCF and LFI have had closer political efforts, but it's hard to tell how the coalition is even going to decide this.

[@salemengineer2130]

I am sorry if I missed it in the clip, but what is the National Rally's position on supporting (or not supporting) the Ukraine in its war with Putin?

[@tomboura8951]

They say they support Ukraine... But as their party funding comes from Russian bank...

[@luckyluke5527]

​@@tomboura8951That's not the case anymore

[@MaganSSB]

​@@luckyluke5527now they just steal straight frol the EU's reserves now 😭

[@trolleurdurden5534]

National Rally's positions on any kind of topic changes from one day to another, they just say whatever is popular to get elected. The only reliable aspect of their political agenda is their racism. When it comes to Ukraine, Marine Le Pen is a longtime friend and admiror of Putin and his regime, but she has changed her tune since the invasion of Ukraine and the unpopularity of Russia in the French public opinion. However, don't be fooled: her party is riddled with pro-russian people and sentiment.

[@RomWatt]

I'll be voting for the New Popular Front

[@Fergusius]

nobody cares, especially not us in Serbia. Vote for whoever you want because we will still be stuck with this pro-russian idiot we are having now.

[@jonnialavuo]

well well well

[@sisygambis.]

ok shlomo

[@t.c.4321]

You will be dissappointed

[@byunbaekhyun2283]

@@jonnialavuo are you macron supporter? ew.

[@wildfire9280]

7:07 Is there anything stopping everywhere across the political spectrum from supporting this?

[@josephstalin2829]

Enforcement for once

[@OLBAPPOAWECBRKLFK]

Its a fucking nightmare..

[@Yolwoocle]

Legit can't believe that we might have a far right government in like 2 weeks. Insanity at its peak

[@Liminal_Simulacre]

I mean, if the NFP wins, it could stop this train wreck for at least one year. I'm taking that. Macron as been a terrible manager, economic wise, his politics are a total failure. Even the lead economist who wrote LREM economic program is saying it was a mistake. Not mentionning the rest of Macron's policies because, it's obviously catastrophic.

[@Mousquetaire-du-Roi]

​@@Yolwooclewhat about the RN program worries you? Relief to the working class, soothing public security concerns, deregulating small businesses. Is it the people themselves? What about them worries you?

[@AiRPasternak]

​@@Yolwoocledude you seriously want more Muslims in France? NR has to win I don't want to see another June/July 2023 I will not forget or forgive those rioters

[@flmis]

You guys are in the Schengen Area, you *could* moved to cheaper eurozone countries like Croatia or something. Sorry, don't know a lot about Europe, tho I do have Swedish citizenship, which means I can access the Schengen Area, but for almost my entire life, I'm living in America 🤷‍♂️

[@chicagomike]

No wonder why the French president is in trouble. He basically is in the center but doesn’t stand for anything the left I like quite a bit I really like their program. But the immigration part of their package is absolutely ridiculous. I can see why the national front the fascists are doing well because they basically want France to remain French and don’t want a huge supply of non-French people taking over the country and ruining its identity I don’t think that is right wing and I don’t think it’s crypto fascist. Thanks.

[@grey3247]

Wow, these comments are worse than usual

[@bluebelle8823]

You know politics. It does tend to rile people up. But yeah it is worse than normal.

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

The tno one was funny I guess

[@aur.c]

This video doesn't take into account newer commitments, especially more moderate commitments of the left alliance, and more social commitments of the centrist alliance

[@Cubicstudios]

I'll always find the banning of hijabs in public bizarre. Why ban headwear of any kind? People's religion is their own business. Additionally, muslims wearing hijabs aren't doing it as a fashion statement. People will just cover their hair with other things, like scarfs. Should scarfs be banned then too? Edit: Notice how it's quite easy to tell which replies are by bots. Hint, the usernames and channel pages

[@marcocipolla4838]

It's not bizarre if you consider how Islam became prevalent in many French localities. They had to pass such a law (which btw it also applies for exaggerately big cross necklaces and kippahs and it's just for public employment) to make sure that the secularism of the Republique is respected. It's a radical choice, for a very delicate situation.

[@Victorvondoom9159]

The hijab Is nothing more then an ideological uniform of a Totalitarian ideology that is incompatible with European society the people who want to live like that should live in the middle east not in Europe

[@naapsuvaimne740]

you dont understand

[@looseycanon]

Screw it, let's just ban clothes :D

[@oussamaalaoui9121]

It seems France will join the Iran and North Korea "women cloths restriction group"

[@tristanklimp]

Nfp +20 pages of policy National rally - 1 page of populist rhetoric

[@keenanarthur8381]

Le Pen wants to reinstate criminal punishment for drugs? Substance abuse disorder is one of the few mental illnesses that people can still get locked up for in most countries, which demonstrates widespread ignorance of the causes of addiction and a form of systemic oppression called ableism. Imagine locking up someone with an eating disorder with murderers and rapists and expecting them to somehow get better. Portugal is leading the way to sanity with regards to drug policy, treating addiction as a public health issue rather than a criminal issue.

[@gaetankelabra1761]

First I have rea what you said, then I looked at your profile picture and I understood

[@nietzscheankant6984]

@@gaetankelabra1761 ... Are you seriously trying to use someone's profile picture, or their looks, as an "argument" against what they said?

[@rsantana389]

Very well said

[@ulkinnalmyud3133]

@@nietzscheankant6984 Making connections between elements is the principle of intelligence.

[@OHHnoYOUdidntMAN]

If the Left were stricter on migration they'd be amazing and win forever 😫!!!!!!!!! We need a Left wing party that is Pro-Ukraine and anti-islamic migration, at the same time. 😫😫😫😫

[@218kq]

Anti Islamic? You've shutting the innocent southeast and central Asians who were actually hard working and law abiding.

[@AuxaneST]

Yes.

[@notimportant2478]

Basically and European supremacy but communist state

[@princess_haze]

Some people tried it in 2012 and the following years. Manuel Valls (from the PS, a center left party) wanted the left wing to become strict on immigration and national values while still being left wing. The result is that it killed the whole left for a while, made the far right more popular because now immigration is debated everywhere, and gave an opportunity for macron to rise and take power. So sorry no it doesn't work!

[@ehannasir8464]

2:13 the veil or head scarf? you said veil but showed a woman with a head scarf so it isn't very clear

[@fritoss3437]

The Hijab

[@aesma2522]

In France that's called a voile (voile islamique) even if it's not over the face. The one over the face is already banned.

[@gaetankelabra1761]

@@aesma2522 totaly normal to ban something that could be used to rob a bank and hide your identity (also illegal to walk with a morotcycle helmet on). Let's not forget the jewelery store robery of 3 men disguised as muslim woman wearing the full black robe shit.

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

7:09 based. Too bad everything else macron has done/wants to do is cringe

[@rinkadink66]

Starmer and the Labour party doesn't look too bad, compared to what the US and French have to choose from..

[@oussamaalaoui9121]

Thank you, made laugh ☺️

[@byunbaekhyun2283]

REALLY? you think bland and uninspiring starmer is better than the god-sent angels NPF??

[@diegoyuiop]

​@@byunbaekhyun2283 much better, lowering retirement age is suicidal and particularly sadist towards younger generations

[@byunbaekhyun2283]

@@diegoyuiop so according to you people who have work for DECADES should not be able to enjoy their pension with peace and dignity? just say that you hate the working class, dont bring young people into this. btw, you do realize that most young people are also part of the working class, right? what do you think are we? a bunch of bourgeoisie brats? just like other working class people of all ages, we want to be able to retire early and not being a corporate slave at 64.

[@diegoyuiop]

@@byunbaekhyun2283 There's difference between what you want and what you can have, the real world is not a fantasy

[@antoineaublin3812]

the rn wants to privatize public tv and radio bc the private sector is either entirely in their pocket or at the very least complacent with them

[@AaronOkeanos]

1st target of any right-wing or authoritatarian movement ... control the information to prevent the truth and change perception in your favor.

[@bellablack6937]

@@AaronOkeanos Just look at what Meloni has done with RAI here in Italy...

[@AaronOkeanos]

@@bellablack6937 Yes a total disappointment. How many promisses she already broken and is suddenly unable to deliver. Is it possible she overpromissed in order to make you vote her. You have been conned and you not even realize it.

[@fritoss3437]

While the public service clearly support the left and Hate the RN

[@bellablack6937]

@@AaronOkeanos I mean... I saw it coming a hundred miles away and, on average, the people who vote Meloni are either a) not the most... informed, let's just say that (I could be meaner) b) people who are dissatisfied with the state of politics in this country For that second category, I disagree with their voting record but I cannot 100% blame them. Meloni has done a good job (like Le Pen, in a way) with her rebrand and it pains me to look at the state of the nation and actually think of her as one of the most "reasonable" candidates.

[@oussamaalaoui9121]

I can't believe that i lived to see france joining the "restricting women clothing" group with iran and North koria

[@paralleldimensions_E]

Well France has the right approach to this. It's a choice by the wearer and no one is forcing that wearer to live in France.

[@FearlessXful]

@@paralleldimensions_E no, Marine Le Pen wants to ban women from wearing it, so it is not a choice.

[@soundscape26]

I'm fine with hijabs but burqas should be banned. You are a person not a sack of potatoes.

[@karankapoor2701]

No one's stopping them for going back to their progressive homeland

[@dannydxm]

​@@soundscape26also makes any form of ID impossible, can't even tell if it's a man in there.

[@mathias9542]

L'heure est grave : a deux doigts de voter Macron

[@AuxaneST]

Moi aussi. Il va perdre mais il ne faut pas qu'il perde de trop sinon ça sera pire.

[@wipas6043]

Les Républicains, c'est la seule option raisonnable à ce point. La Macronie a détruit le pays et nous a plongé dans le chaos.

[@Goollgothh]

Oh le golem

[@alix9751]

4:04 Wrong it's 1600€ a month not 2000

[@juliendurand1178]

1600 without tax

[@L4oo.]

Le Pen's plan for immigration just seems strange, irrational, and petty. Why would anyone want to prevent families from being re-united? why would anyone want to turn away people looking for a place to live? If you know, or you have these opinions, could you please explain? I legitimately can't understand.

[@295Phoenix]

It's wise, no more anchor babies. If family wants to re-unite, the migrants can return home and re-unite.

[@aesma2522]

No money to support them. No housing to house them. No work to give them. No hospitals to treat them. Etc. Why aren't all countries opened to unlimited immigration ?

[@andareas1114]

In France, the family reunification allows a foreign national legally living in France to bring his family (spouse, children) to live with him in France under certain legal conditions. It is regarded today mostly as a succion pump for immigration, granting too easily entry and citizenship to immigrants with almost no conditions.

[@SneedPatch]

And the NFP's essentially open-borders policies are normal and rational? You have to be out of your mind to believe this. The French want less immigration, not an essentially Islamo-Marxist party governing them

[@markdowding5737]

Because many of those immigrants are poor and have very large families, which then translates to large state benefits. This also creates a huge pressure on public services and housing. Many of these kids grow up in poverty and in ghettos which leads to many of them involving themselves with gangs and crimes. It's actually a pretty sensible policy. I am not opposed to family reunification but you need to show you have a certain income so your family doesn't become a financial burden to the state.

[@howdydoobroyt]

Hoping for a popular front victory but expecting a far right victory

[@markdowding5737]

why would you want a popular front victory? Their policies are pure economic suicide.

[@codthefishnotthegame]

yo this right wing alliance thing sounds sick i would vote 10/10

[@AttilaAsztalos]

So, Macron looks set to lose? GOOD.

[@edb3255]

Not good if it means the Front Populaire wins. It wants to roll out the red carpet for migrants.

[@SimonBrady-i1k]

This could at last consign macron to the dustbin of history. Le Pen will not just benefit french citizens but could benefit the whole of Europe. This is the rise of people power, no more macron ruling by presidential decree without the due democratic process of parliament. Good luck france. Macron has caused more humiliation and shame than any previous president since Petain.

[@markdowding5737]

I know the National Rally might not be perfect, but the popular front seems to want to turn France into a new Venezuela. No wonder the markets are scared.

[@SuperUtilisateur]

Check Les Echos' article named "Législatives 2024 : le ton commence à monter aussi entre les économistes" - NFP's program is backed by professionals, as is Macron's economic policy. No ones backs RN's program. RN's (and in a lesser extent Macron's) is unreallistic because they promise to lower taxes. And as far as Macron's experiment is going, it doesn't seem to work, and he has to cut back social benifits that keeps people out of poverty (and they keep repeating lies on social fraud and the effect of social benefits on people) And National Rally's got no program too. They changed their minds again and again on all subjects. Even if we compare it to what they said during European elections.

[@nietzscheankant6984]

"Might not be perfect" = ideological bunch of Kremlin-bought racist know-nothings, who spew populistic rhetoric and non-solutions. And the markets reacted to the possibility of the RN dimwits winning the elections, because of their shitty economical proposals and "foundations" for other policies, as well as how they'd weaken the EU on top of them undermining France. And this comment is NOT a defense of some of the more populistic and economically nonviable suggestions of the NFP. (Like that lowering of the retirement age is effectively an attempt at actively sabotaging French finances.)

[@philguer4802]

Keynesian economics will not turn France into Venezuela. They mention detailed predicted expenses/revenues into their programs, the other parties don't.

[@markdowding5737]

@@philguer4802 then why are the markets more scared of a popular front victory than a national rally one?

[@fateenshareef8716]

Either way, the pension reform and the unemployment insurace are gone.

[@mcboat3467]

Nope Le pen supports them. Average capitalist party

[@anonyme2333]

Not really. RN has already backed down on this and want an even harder unemployment law. And mostly it's very probable their is no governement at all with no one having a majority and willing to form alliance (Bardella already said that he will only be Prime Minister with an absolute majority). And now dissolution is impossible before 8 july 2025... Even a new president will have to deal with this new parliament.

[@dan7582]

Left party proposal: give money to everybody.

[@noisikan917]

No. Liberal party : lets give money to capitalist. Does it works ? No. So lets go into a keynesian economy

[@markdowding5737]

and repeat 1000 times "We stand with Palestine!"

[@sidp5381]

Looking at the garbage that you guys support is not surprising you believe that it’s such a terrible thing

[@dan7582]

Do you believe in Santa? The problem of lefties is that they believe every problem can be solved with a law. They don`t think in the consequence: Economy its like Chess you need to think 10 moves in advance. France already try to tax the big fortunes, did it work? No, they had to verse the law. Europe already have a nice welfare state, it does not get any better than that. If you want to provide better quality of life, focus providing incentives to investment, and productivity. Believe me, there is not a possible scenario where the poor win and the rich loses. For the poor to make money and improve their life the rich need to do as well. If you try to f$uck the rich you will endup f$king the poor even more. I`m not saying that is good, or right, its just reality.

[@princess_haze]

You mean, Left party proposal: Take money to the filthy rich and give it to people who skip meals to avoid spending too much. Also macron's proposals aren't much smarter than what you wrote, he just keeps giving money to big companies, even if it doesn't help economic growth. Maybe if we try one more time it will work though!!!

[@AaronOkeanos]

Have you noticed the Right-Wing policies predominantly revolve around the misconception that your life improves if immigrants lifes suffer. A concept proven over and over again wrong because the assumption is wrong.

[@ks4733]

I’m leaning more on the left side of the spectrum but unfortunately I do agree that illegal immigration makes our lives worse…

[@invertedsounds8112]

Illegal migrants doesn't make it any better so

[@AaronOkeanos]

@@ks4733 Do you think an illegal is going to the authorities asking for benefits or risking getting in conflict with the law and risking being immediatly deported? So how makes it your life worse? That being said I am against illegal immigrats but an illegal immigrant is only someone who reach the country and not go to authories for registration and application or refuse to leave when denied.

[@Alexander-vg4kz]

They do, ignore all the cultural issues we have seen in the past like in 2016. Where will they live? Who’s gonna be paying for their benefits. They will put an unnecessary burden on the housing market and will take a part of the budget that could be used to improve the live of those living in France already.

[@AaronOkeanos]

@@Alexander-vg4kz Simple answer: Make "paying for yourself" mandatory. Meaning if you are not able to make more money than you cost within x years you must leave again. And if you want citizenship even more conditions like 10 years paying taxes, etc. But frankly statistics have shown that most immigrants are so motivated and diligent that they are net benefactors to society. And because the travel is so dangerous they are usually young and able and healthy. There are so many misinformations out there to make fear, envy and anger. It's not funny anymore. And all to make you look down not up for your problems.

[@notfunny3397]

2:14 France joining the club on restricting women's rights to wear the cloths they want to. Other members include: Iran, North korea, saudi arabia (sometimes), etc

[@BagelBoy97]

Except it is to secure secularism and prevent theocracy taking over… unlike those countries demanding woman to cover up even if they don’t believe in the fairy tale of a pedo in the dessert..

[@Victorvondoom9159]

It includes literally any European country where nazi paraphernalia is banned like Germany or Austria, the Hijab Is no different from an SS Uniform just for a different yet equally totalitarian ideology as such it belongs banned

[@prohacker5086]

More like restricting secret ninja costumes

[@xxvxxv5588]

These restrictions aren't directed exclusively against women. If you are a man wearing a veil, you will also be excluded.

[@oussamaalaoui9121]

In Saudi Arabia there is restrictions in only one city because it is a holy city In the rest of the country women wears what they wants

Interesting that Macron is claiming to uphold republican values, while his dog Élisabeth Borne holds the 2nd record for the most uses of article 49.3 (with 3 times the amount of the 3rd place) and keeps strengthening the executive.

[@KSUser-0301]

It seems there is not much difference between the left and right except on immigration and palestine while macron is being macron

[@keterscp1064]

Nuh left is against the privatized public sector, wanting to tax the rich unlike everyone else , want to fix retirement, want to make France for young people, want a France that protects its educated people therefore limiting brain drain , want a France that's energy independence, want a future proof France that can be competitive on a global level and want a France that isn't owned by any other country not USA and definitely not Russia and finally they want a strong EU for Europe to protect itself in a competitive global stage full of current and up coming superpowers

[@franciscouderq1100]

RN is pro Putin while NFP support Ukraine. Nouveau Front populaire will spend a lot more than LePen party , both populists promises because france is broke anyway. In addition some RN proposal will require EU approval which are not a « given » and surely will lead to « gracious » clashes 🤣. In short Macron timing for his recent move is catastrophique leaving most into total disbelief and incomprehension. Such is life, Brexit was another one of the kind…

[@Harsh-mg2em]

I think La Pen is much friendlier to Putin tho, although I guess her left counterpart also parrots Kremlin's talking points. The right in Poland (PIS) is also economically centre-leftish

[@hyprion1]

The main difference here is around the economy. While far right tells that charges should be lightenend for the companies without any other income source, the left wants the ones that gathered a lot of money since the pandemic to contribute back to the system

[@tariarun5063]

NFP (left) are way more social in their manifesto compared to RN (far-right). Worth noting that RN is also not very clear on certain takes (like pension reform) they keep switching between "it's an emergency" and "maybe later". The fact that they befriended a lot of big business owners and they didn't vote on social laws and reform since 2022 elections shows that social themes are not their priority at all

[@nanikasan_]

One side promotes racism and fear of others, another promotes social help, humanity, I have no idea why it's a hard decision. Half the young people 18-24 voted for the left.

[@clairdelune7222]

Je suis d'accord avec toi, mais il y a des raisons à ça. La plupart des électeurs du RN c'est des habitants de villages, petites et moyennes villes, et ils se sentent délaissés et méprisés par la gauche parisienne depuis des années, alors qu'ils représentent une part super importante de la population française. Avant ils votaient plutôt pour la droite républicaine, mais elle s'est détruite elle-même à cause de ses erreurs, laissant la place à l'extrême droite, et maintenant elle essaye de se sauver en faisant la course au RN. Ca sert à rien de les traiter de tous les noms comme la plupart de la gauche le fait. Le seul moyen pour la gauche c'est d'arrêter de les ignorer, de s'emparer des sujets qui les concernent et de cesser de parler uniquement des sujets des grandes villes. Et je dis ça en étant moi-même de gauche, et je déteste le RN tout autant que plein de gens, mais il faut arrêter de se voiler la face si la gauche veut réussir

[@MU-TH-UR]

@@clairdelune7222 Avant ils votaient aussi beaucoup pour la gauche et certains sont aussi syndiqués. le problème c'est que la plupart de ces gens ont remplacé la lutte des classes par le racisme. Bon courage pour inverser la tendance. ça n'est plus rationnel. Je suis sûr qu'ils ne lisent même pas les programmes ou ne savent pas ce que vote le RN à l'assemblée. Et s'ils le savaient le pire c'est qu'il y a des chances qu'ils s'en foutent. Ils veulent juste que quelqu'un( Bardella en l'occurrence )les conforte et les rassure dans leur peur de l'"autre".

[@clairdelune7222]

@@MU-TH-UR Les gens d’aujourd’hui ont besoin de se trouver une raison à leurs problèmes, on vit dans une société de plus en plus individualiste, d’où la haine de l’autre de plus en plus prononcée dans nos sociétés. Pour ces gens, le vote du RN c’est aussi le vote de contestation vis à vis du système actuel, ils voient dans Bardella et Le Pen des « héros » qui vont tout chambouler d’un jour à l’autre (et penser comme ça peut mener à des politiques dangereuses…). Cependant, il ne faut pas ignorer la part de responsabilité de la gauche qui est grande, qui a abandonné depuis bien longtemps la défense des petites gens. Dans une vraie démocratie, non on ne vote pas pour un programme d’une seule idéologie, mais on vote pour des représentants de la Nation qui sont à l’écoute de chacun des problèmes de la population. Aujourd’hui je vote à gauche parce que c’est pour moi la moins pire des solutions, mais c’est certainement plus par conviction que je fais ça, comme de nombreuses personnes que je connais.

[@MU-TH-UR]

@@clairdelune7222 Oui la gauche de gouvernement, sociale démocrate, en Gros le PS les a oublié, depuis qu'elle a accédé au pouvoir dans les 80's. LE FN/RN a rempli le vide laissé.

[@kevinbarry71]

Seriously? You didn't have the French lady do this one?

[@dimitraartistautisticidiotr]

Fools I told you not to vote LA pen

[@soundscape26]

What French lady?

[@AB-zl4nh]

People are more than their birth characteristics. Just because I am of Afro-Carribbean heritage, I wouldn't want to talk about BLM.