New Caledonia makes France 'the second largest maritime power in the world' • FRANCE 24 English

As Macron heads to New Caledonia in an attempt to quell a political crisis that led to deadly riots, David Camroux, Senior Research Fellow at Sciences Po CERI, explains that the French desire to hang on to New Caledonia is stronger than in the past as the waters around the territory make France the second largest maritime power in the world. He spoke to FRANCE 24's Tom Burges Watson
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[@user-kg4jv4gr3d]

French like to tell other countries their moral obligations but refuse to obey at their peril. Pure double standards.

[@user-hc8ki1rl4t]

Chinese troll still has a job.

[@ssss8162]

Free Guadeloupe, Martinique, Saint-Martin, Saint-Barthélemy, Saint Pierre and Miquelon (Atlantic Ocean) Reunion island, Mayotte, the French Southern and Antarctic Lands (Indian Ocean) French Polynesia, New Caledonia, Wallis and Futuna (Pacific Ocean)

[@doubleaadoubleaa5538]

@@ssss8162that’s a lot ! Wow!!

[@budawang77]

Little Pink you are so wise

[@peabase]

@@ssss8162 I think France secretly agrees. The islanders themselves, not so. Ask the Comorians and Mahorians. The former desperately want to make their way to nearby Mayotte, because it remains part of France, whereas the Comoros opted for independence and are now facing severe economic hardship.

[@pevlez]

Maybe they should stop neglecting the rights of the natives then

[@patrickgz]

not possible to expect colonizers to uphold native rights. colonizers will attempt dialog to appease locals but end result is always same historically.

[@frank-ko6de]

or simply just leave and stay foul smelling toilet country in their war prone continent.

[@muffine5279]

​@@frankjames7272dont give the rights to vote to non natives

[@veedee3815]

@@patrickgz maybe there is more to it. This is just a distraction to avoid focus on the real issues. Is china involved under LOW?

[@corey6722]

This isn’t about rights… it’s about the natives wanting independence and the non natives wanting to stay with France.

[@polysporin8332]

hopefully, New Caledonia can break free from colonialism.

[@ssss8162]

Same for Guadeloupe, Martinique, Saint-Martin, Saint-Barthélemy, Saint Pierre and Miquelon (Atlantic Ocean) Reunion island, Mayotte, the French Southern and Antarctic Lands (Indian Ocean) French Polynesia, New Caledonia, Wallis and Futuna (Pacific Ocean)

[@danaodanao4591]

​@@ssss8162 trust me us in Reunion never want to leave France EVER..Dreamzzz China BOTS

[@danaodanao4591]

China BOTS🆙😂

[@DidyouKnow-zs9ug]

Yes all voted to remain French.

[@peabase]

You want to condemn them to economic hardship. Gotcha.

[@icu17siberia]

This old colonist doesn't get it. They can do more than mining if France would have invested in the people and the country

[@Madame702]

This not about the nickel mines the price nickel has totally crashed the Kanak need a bailout from France to maintain their mines. This about France stopping Chinese expansion in the Indian ocean. That why France wants to maintain their bases there. The Kanka cannot fight the Chinese and their Navy.

[@deeplife9654]

The moral sense of European colonial power did not improve much 😂. It is just globalization that had ended colonial era.

[@frank-ko6de]

globalization is simply colonization in another name.

[@peabase]

Sssh, don't draw attention to the fact that Russia is the biggest European colonial power. Your paymasters in the Kremlin won't appreciate it.

[@veedee3815]

Not much difference between colonization and globalization .

[@veedee3815]

@@frank-ko6de agree 👍

[@msjapan112]

Why do they have to hang onto such a small territory so far away? The island belongs to the native population anyway.

[@vernonwhite4660]

Its mineral rich ie Nickel!

[@rezalzmz]

Also geo power to check China.

[@thebeautifulones5436]

⁠@@vernonwhite4660there is a massive excess of Nickel now. The price has collapsed.

[@karenmbbaxter]

There was a referedum a few years ago and The New Caledonians voted to stay under French rule......There can also be economic reasons for this.

[@allykid4720]

​@@karenmbbaxter Referendums and elections are bs.

[@stevenwilliams3015]

France get out of New Caledonia

[@ssss8162]

Same for Guadeloupe, Martinique, Saint-Martin, Saint-Barthélemy, Saint Pierre and Miquelon (Atlantic Ocean) Reunion island, Mayotte, the French Southern and Antarctic Lands (Indian Ocean) French Polynesia, New Caledonia, Wallis and Futuna (Pacific Ocean)

[@Megnat]

France didn’t listen to the locals when New Caledonia had their 3rd referendum during Covid and just expects everyone to agree with that. The only way for this issue to end is to have a 4th and proper referendum. So the locals can truly decide to stick with France or ditch them.

[@ssss8162]

Free Guadeloupe, Martinique, Saint-Martin, Saint-Barthélemy, Saint Pierre and Miquelon (Atlantic Ocean) Reunion island, Mayotte, the French Southern and Antarctic Lands (Indian Ocean) French Polynesia, New Caledonia, Wallis and Futuna (Pacific Ocean)

[@maverick214]

The problem with a 4th referendum is that the Kanak only comprise 41% of the population so they would lose again.

[@Manawatu_Al2844]

They'll probably lose again, and then demand independence yet again and riot.

[@ericknea]

There was barely no covid in New Caledonia, Kanaks had no deads during covid, they knew they would loose the referendum a third time . Kanaks are not dumb, just mean, they would use anything to get New Caledonia independant, now they burn the city . It s a minority claiming for a country like it was their , but it s not, it s a multicultural country, no race can claim it s superiority in a democracy . But they dont want democracy nor humam rights ... They are terrorists .

[@TheLeftRbabieskillers]

Imagine the US had an election whether to free slaves or to keep them in bondage.

[@peat6154]

Always good listening to someone who knows what they're talking about.

[@teckguanchan6902]

The research fellow said that Macron is likely to get a warm welcome. How can that be when there has been a riot. France would be better off if it stops acting as if it is still a colonial power and focus on solving its problems at home.

[@rezalzmz]

More like a hot fiery welcome

[@Eureka2003]

New Caledonia is french, but Crimera is not Russian?

[@Aotegar2Mergiirk]

New Caledonia is 17,000km from France...

[@srikandisuryavarman222]

New Caledonia = Melanesian French = Romance White -------- Crimea = Slavic Russia = Slavic

[@peabase]

You got that right. People forget that Russia is one of the biggest colonisers, and while France decolonised save for some remote islands, Russia still holds on its colonies.

[@juliarichter6987]

Absolutely. Russia recognized the borders of Ukraine.

[@fastpistonx]

Nickel ore plunder.

[@danaodanao4591]

China in Indonesia ya

[@danaodanao4591]

@@pernemlong9363 Indon military 🇮🇩☠️ in West Papua ya

[@darkpenguin1978]

France is making the same mistake it made in Algeria, in the Sahel etc to keep the autochtones poor and marginalized, with the feeling of to be occupied by foreigners. With all the benefit "The Caillou" brought to France wealth and prestige putting the indigenous people over there integrated and in better condition in return is the minimum to garant a long future in common peace coexistence.

[@Madame702]

No, this is different. You see the French has violated the treaty agreement with the Kanaks. This is why the Kanaks are rebelling. The problem is France wants to maintain it forces in region to stop Iranian, and Chinese forces in region.

[@fibo2459]

A population of less than 100,000 kanaks, and France with a population of 65 million and an economy larger than that of Russia still cannot find enough goodies to keep everyone or at least the majority on their side!

[@wahwah7701]

​@@fibo2459That proves how nerow minded the French are.

[@cjryan88]

but the french are 60% of the pop

[@Madame702]

@@cjryan88 No the largest group are the Kanaks at 40%. There is a sizable group of Polynesians at about 20% there are groups that make about another 10% the rest of the are consider French at 30% of the population.

[@vk-zd7qq]

Really a lot of censorship here on YT

[@alangivre2474]

So.... is it ok mantaining colonialism now? Maybe you can try to divide New Caledonia between the two.

[@lakechtasse8031]

France must allow these people to exercise freedom. It should be done peacefully not by force.

[@ibinfo-tube5063]

Simple is that UK AUS and even US don't want to see French influence around their strategic clad 🤔🤔😄😄

[@itmakesyouthink]

So glad Cook claimed Australia, and La Perouse missed out, as I can't speak French. 😮

[@Ukrainecrimes]

When Macroleone visiting captured Moscow?!

[@michaelhoran407]

What is happening in Port Vila, New Hebrides?

[@Aotegar2Mergiirk]

We're doing fine on our own, not being governed by a colonialist entity from 17,000km away. Thank you for asking though.😊

[@Aotegar2Mergiirk]

Economically we are doing well as a Developing/emerging economy.. but again we cannot be compared with New Caledonia that has a 120 trillion dollar substantial wealth in nickel resources!

[@sapphyrus]

So much for liberte, egalite, fraternite.

[@icu17siberia]

Foreign interference?

[@mmarques2736]

Or maybe just the locals pissed off because their local economy and life quality has always been neglected?

[@allykid4720]

Yep, french.

[@peterkorisa911]

I think it's better for France to consider giving self -determination to Kanaks . I am Native Ni-Vanuatu sharing border with New Caledonia .

[@veedee3815]

INDEPENCE a big word reserverd to those with the experience. Who is fit to govern if not France? The rebels or maybe putin will pop up to play savior? NC IS PART OF French heritage from history. Not Last year. Discussions should be made possible ? This chaos is planned . France should not back down !.

[@Aotegar2Mergiirk]

What history.. French history in New Caledonia is the blunder of NICKEL ore

[@stephendmccormickjr8200]

Definitely agree

[@fearbnz]

'New Caledonia' is a Melanesian country, France is a late comer practising the equivalent of a home invasion with the invaders then insisting upon squatters rights and ownership of all that was once the dispossesseds', colonialism dresses this up as something else.

[@veedee3815]

@@fearbnz oh dear!how long ago they started "squatting"? Is it less than 5yrs ago?

[@pio4362]

At least NC has gotten 3 independence referendums. What has the US given Puerto Rico? That's a real colony.

[@queen84sasha]

I hope the French officers can restore order. The shops looted and cars burnt are said to be over 1billion euro damage. Imagine and here people are defending pure criminals.

[@munchezfonataba]

After billions of French government, the Caldoches were taken from Nickle mining. It's justified, the wealth belongs to the indigenous Kanak, NOT French. You can't change New Caledonia and replace its natives Melanesian Kanak with French people, just like you can't change France and European population to Arab people.

[@queen84sasha]

@@munchezfonataba you are bad informed. Nickel in NC is bankrupt for long time because Indonesia has Monopoly and they can do cheap slave labor.. something France doesn't do. Check Reuters. And even nickel is owned by China and Brazil in Indonesia! Papuans Moluccans and all Indigenous don't get ANY PAY for it. Only dictators of the respective countries: Indonesia owned by China, and Brazil - a human rights disaster on itself.

[@queen84sasha]

@munchezfonataba get informed. Theres not only French people living in NC. We have Wallisian Tahitians Chinese Javanese Vietnamese and European.

[@munchezfonataba]

@queen84sasha I know the migrant group in NC. Javanese also replaced the West Papuan in their land. Isn't that a form of colonization?

[@queen84sasha]

@@munchezfonataba So why is there no public outrage against Indonesia. And why are Kanak so R@cist they don't allow others to vote in NC.

[@user-se2uy6nd7y]

Why no kanaks are interviewed?

[@user-rs9rw7sb1x]

France and Macron 💪✝️

[@juliarichter6987]

France should use the chance to retreat without leaving a country in chaos for once: Give the people living in New Caledonia ten years to move away, pay them compensation for their houses and companies, as the kanak don't have the money to buy them. Close the mines in a way, that there is no pollution. The Kanak have ten years to organize themselves, so they can run their new country.

[@mekonenmenghistuab4042]

If you out side your self how can you keep out side involves

[@josephinemouse1155]

Maybe the ICC will arrest Macron next

[@dr4jm]

Though France would have learnt from their revolution. Look after your people.

[@jayhorton4088]

New Caledonia doesn't have the help of Wagner and Russia like south Africa did unfortunately France will use force to maintain power

[@gokalpmetininpapyonlusu5810]

Turks may help them If Kanaks place an invitation. Kanaks and Turks will easily beat those colonialists.

[@cannibalronny7314]

@@gokalpmetininpapyonlusu5810 they will be kicked out of NAto then u joker,thats why Azerbaijan is doing teh Turks work

[@gokalpmetininpapyonlusu5810]

@@cannibalronny7314 Macron said that NATO was brain dead. Who wants to be in a brainless organization?And also if NATO has to decide whether Turkey or France , handkerchief waving frogs will be kicked out first.French army, what a joke.

[@MusehanaH]

...never underestimate the resolve of people who want to be free

[@pio4362]

​@@gokalpmetininpapyonlusu5810Turks colonised Greece and the Balkans for half a millennium. As a former imperial power, they have a lot of apologising to do and reparations to doll out.

[@supremerider86]

Free New Caledonia!

[@yo2trader539]

Oh please. French were never a maritime power.

[@icu17siberia]

this guy needs to leave the crack pipe alone for a while

[@YgalSharon]

Well, in effect, they are and not even your English resentment is going to change that.

[@moalerivu2139]

Absurd for Macron to be fighting for statehood for Palestine but not New Caledonia.

[@arnaudpayet6173]

Ce n'est pas la Nouvelle Calédonie qui fait de la France la seconde zone maritime au monde, c'est l'ensemble des Outre-mer

[@damiendehorn6350]

Free Kanak, get the frogs out.

[@CHALETARCADE]

@@damiendehorn6350 Ah, the contribution of racist asshats, unavoidable I guess.

[@majormoolah5056]

One thing I would disagree on is that France is a Great Power in world affairs. Not as powerful as China, certainly, but very powerful and this power will only increase during the 2020s.

[@wahwah7701]

New powers are rising now. France is a small boy to the real super powers.

[@sportszone9159]

It's freedom fight

[@yderelio]

But why France banned tiktok? Why? That’ s hypocrisy. You are missing one word from your flag! Liberty!

[@peabase]

TikTok is controlled by the CCP, the antithesis of freedom. Fortunately, it will soon break free.

[@heimhartman9852]

Because TikTok is owned by China.

[@RabeTorc]

Shame on you France 🇫🇷, Again!!! Live it! They are a pacific population! Freedom to New Caledonia 🇳🇨 👏👏👏

[@ohpatriote5622]

After 3 referendums people of NC choose to be french and not a socialist republic dictature like Venezuela So NC is a french part. Dont care about what foreigners are saying its not their business... take care of the status of aborigines and mahoris instead

[@queen84sasha]

Many people die because of Kanak extremists

[@user-if1tz7uj5f]

First they occupy the island, then they settle colonialists on it and then they hold democratic referendums. In French Guiana there are no locals anymore. They are disappeared.

[@ssss8162]

Free Guadeloupe, Martinique, Saint-Martin, Saint-Barthélemy, Saint Pierre and Miquelon (Atlantic Ocean) Reunion island, Mayotte, the French Southern and Antarctic Lands (Indian Ocean) French Polynesia, New Caledonia, Wallis and Futuna (Pacific Ocean)

[@rosiehellraiser5066]

If all these lands are free how will France maintain its superiority?

[@budawang77]

So many of these Little Pink comments!

[@ssss8162]

@@budawang77 How is it Little Pink comments? please explain

[@svtcollege8607]

OK, but then, why just France? Free US, free Argentina, free Australia etc...How many countries have an indigene population who's been colonised through history?

[@ssss8162]

@@svtcollege8607 Let the French lead the way

[@DD-wx4jc]

Second???

[@YgalSharon]

First in terms of the maritime floor

[@hohepatewhiu1818]

I am sure the Kanaks don't mind sharing as long as they rule there ancestral Lands like all Native Indigenous people of Australia Canada America New Zealand Hawaii New Caledonia to name a few. Its all about resources.

[@vernonwhite4660]

China will move in, if the French move out!😊

[@corvusglaive4804]

Western countries need to know when its time to leave. The Kanak want their country back - so ket them go! Simple.

[@stephendmccormickjr8200]

France needs to tighten their grip even further by fully integrating it into their nation and getting rid of their right to vote for independence

[@andersforsberg1737]

Let them be independent and fall more into poverty

[@thomaskearney9224]

Little Napoleon.

[@sayedkhalilullahmonib3363]

It would be fatal mistake for France to leave Caledonia. Also don’t allow people to have references there are 2 references already happened before therefore there is no point of having references again. Those criminals are taking advantage of the situations

[@BC-mj7gj]

France should get out.

[@ssss8162]

Freedom for Guadeloupe, Martinique, Saint-Martin, Saint-Barthélemy, Saint Pierre and Miquelon (Atlantic Ocean) Reunion island, Mayotte, the French Southern and Antarctic Lands (Indian Ocean) French Polynesia, New Caledonia, Wallis and Futuna (Pacific Ocean)

[@stephendmccormickjr8200]

Completely agree

[@richiesd1]

Independence from colonialism.

[@panjimahesa]

French Out and China In as this will be buffer zone for Aukus 🤔

[@queen84sasha]

Nah just gna be US in all the way

[@vk-zd7qq]

All the comments that tell the truth about Kanak violence against civilians are censored. Is this even French 24? Support France and people of NC. Violence looting arson is never a solution.

[@danaodanao4591]

Support to everyone that had their shops car or houses burnt and looted by Kanak extremists.#prayforNC

[@svtcollege8607]

Lots of lesson givers in the comments to say France is an awful colonialist country, free New Caledonia etc... That's maybe true, and perhaps New Caledonia should be independant, but is there all these comments are from countries that have no indigenous population? From countries where no region has been conquered at the expense of other populations? If native americans (north and south) claim to recover their lands, it'OK and the other americans go away somewhere else in the world? If aborigenes in Australia ask the same?

[@harrydebastardeharris987]

Any Student of Colonial History should know how hard the French held onto Viet Nam,Algeria etc when all was lost.New Caledonia has been very sorely treated by the French Settlers,was it so France had any reason to be in the Pacific at all.Ive lived in Sydney half of my life and have had Kanaks as friends plus refugees from nearly every rebellion from the past.

[@YgalSharon]

New Caledonia has nothing in common with those countries you mention. The Kanaks are the minority in their own country and are certainly not united regarding this independence question.

[@queen84sasha]

Fxxx France24 censorship

[@maxx6246]

France the colonisers should leave.

[@Manawatu_Al2844]

And let it turn to rot, no money from France, infrastructure will be crumbling and the country will require foreign aid to survive.

[@jrey5523]

Danm colonialist

[@AAAA-sl2sg]

France had always been a dishonored colonizer. France always poorly treat it colonies. Look at what it did to HAITI and other African countries it occupied. Whereas Britain always try to treat its colonies with decent reasonable respect and honor.

[@Brian-----]

New Caledonia has shown it wants to be part of France and France is right to defend the popular will.

[@TheLeftRbabieskillers]

Imagine the US had an election whether to free slaves or to keep them in bondage.

[@greatgalaxy2118]

One by one Macron/France is losing Overseas territory

[@YgalSharon]

Nothing is lost yet for sure

[@peabase]

It's no great loss. I'm sure that as a keen economist, Macron will privately be pleased to be rid of New Caledonia, to say nothing of the other money pits that are called French overseas territories.

[@hijazzains]

Kanaks should persevere...eventually the French will SURRENDER...they are good at it

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

France out.

[@queen84sasha]

Indonesia OUT of West Papua!!!

[@queen84sasha]

Papua Merdeka!!

[@queen84sasha]

INDONESIA OUT

[@memetkulolmaz1559]

Long live independent Caledonia. Turks support you. No to exploitation!

[@socceramerica3777]

French oppressor is losing power in its slave colonies.

[@radhika00240]

Get out from indian Ocean and Pacific Ocean. French

[@gary637]

Why? Do you hate multiculturalism?

[@radhika00240]

@@gary637 I hate colonization in 21st century

[@oscarnionissa4127]

@@gary637 Pass the same law in europe then!!

[@donaldlyons17]

@@oscarnionissa4127 Yeah for real!!!!

[@CHALETARCADE]

To offer more space to the undemocratic Chisese Empire? Genius!

[@cannibalronny7314]

Putin is paying himback,he thinks he is Napoleon but all he is ,is an inexperienced joker