Testing The World's Best Bike Locks

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8 bike locks from Kryptonite, Squire, Onguard and Hiplok tested to destruction.
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@Cade_Media
@Cade_Media 4 ай бұрын
PRICE CORRECTION: We had a pre-production Squire D16 MAX which is more expensive than the standard D16 at £289.99 - almost the same price as the Hiplok DX1000.
@mikael_johansson
@mikael_johansson 4 ай бұрын
Bought 2 of D16 because of this video and it's not the same lock...
@DelatKonto
@DelatKonto 4 ай бұрын
You should try to grind the Squire Stronghold D16 that was around £130
@panagiotiskalaitzis9156
@panagiotiskalaitzis9156 4 ай бұрын
I wonder how much time it would take to cut the base that the bike is locked to ???
@SidLuther
@SidLuther 4 ай бұрын
I picked up a D16 today too but this seems like cheap plastic rubbish. Can't find a D16 Max anywhere!
@mikael_johansson
@mikael_johansson 4 ай бұрын
I agree, my plastic even came broken.. ​@@SidLuther
@darith27
@darith27 3 ай бұрын
There should be a lock that releases pepper spray if cut into 😂
@my5t1k
@my5t1k Ай бұрын
This sort of exists: SkunkLock
@123_1
@123_1 Ай бұрын
Filled with dynamite maybe?
@Gio9DUUST
@Gio9DUUST 14 күн бұрын
Skunklock release noxious gas
@SpuddyIRL
@SpuddyIRL 10 күн бұрын
@@Gio9DUUSTthat can be picked easily
@Gio9DUUST
@Gio9DUUST 10 күн бұрын
@@SpuddyIRLok thnx didnt know
@interpolpirate
@interpolpirate 5 ай бұрын
Great test guys. I also hear that in some places that they pre-cut a section out of the rack, then cover the rack in stickers and graffiti so you cant see it and use it as normal. Then all they have to do is slip your bike off the rack so keep an eye out for that everyone.
@IsaacRC
@IsaacRC 5 ай бұрын
Yeah also if the rack is not solid to the ground but have movement pushing it by hand then stay away of that parking spot
@popcopone5172
@popcopone5172 4 ай бұрын
damn bro. ey thanks for the tip.
@pdiddysea8599
@pdiddysea8599 3 ай бұрын
Man never thought about that. Ill definitely need to check stickers for gaps underneath.
@patrick_jaq
@patrick_jaq 5 ай бұрын
rubber around the lock just serves to protect the bike but it also tents to gunk up the grinder disc reducing its cutting efficiency.
@chrisjones6699
@chrisjones6699 5 ай бұрын
“I don’t even want the bike anymore” 🤣🤣🤣
@krzysztofprazmo9518
@krzysztofprazmo9518 4 ай бұрын
Why not? Cheap. Easy to maintain. Don't need garage. Just why?
@chrisjones6699
@chrisjones6699 4 ай бұрын
Eh???
@vigilant_1934
@vigilant_1934 Ай бұрын
​@@krzysztofprazmo9518Did you not watch the video? It's a joke.
@RichardPomisel
@RichardPomisel 4 ай бұрын
I have watched several videos testing bike locks. No one has actually done the tests under ALL of the following conditions. 1. Use portable grinder popular with thieves. 2. Include in the tests the time to change out blades and batteries on the portable grinders. In real life that time would add to cutting the locks. 3. Locking the bike locks in a more realistic scenario wrapping the rear wheel, frame and bike rack. 4. Additional second or third lock wrapping around front wheel, frame and bike rack. 5. Steps to take if you encounter thief while in progress.
@eldnah2
@eldnah2 3 ай бұрын
What are the most popular thief grinders?
@TheSkar77
@TheSkar77 2 ай бұрын
And the importantst thing: Use the right Disc.. Not for Steel or Wood or Plastic. Here the the Disc is for Stones btw.
@mdude2023
@mdude2023 5 ай бұрын
For the prices of the higher end locks I'd personally get a cheap single speed commuter if my only option is to lock it outside wherever I'm going. Even with the £300 lock there's nothing stopping them from just cutting through the weak rack in lots of cases
@teddgram
@teddgram 5 ай бұрын
Someone once told me the best way to make sure someone doesn't steal your bike is to make it ugly AF (cover it in stickers) and park it next to a pretty road bike. Yours will become invisible.
@artvandelay1720
@artvandelay1720 5 ай бұрын
If you have an expensive drivetrain, they'll just cut through the bike frame and part it out. If you ride a bike with cheap parts (e.g. 3x8 drivetrain) and put a second u-lock through the front wheel, it's probably going to be more trouble than it's worth to steal.
@Saftkeur
@Saftkeur 5 ай бұрын
That said, I feel like people are quick to "not my problem" and ignore someone grinding through a bike lock, because they'll either figure it's not their problem or that clearly the blatant use of power tools means they're not a thief, they're retrieving a bike or something. If said thief is sawing through the bike rack though? Now that's _clearly_ not supposed to be happening, plus whoever owns said bike rack (a business or the city) is going to care about that very quickly. Of course, sawing the bike off is always the third option, but most thieves don't want a broken bike, unless there's a lot of expensive components on it and they're willing to 'settle' for just the components...
@borisgurevich5504
@borisgurevich5504 5 ай бұрын
@@Saftkeur but how much used components are worth, even if expensive when new? Is there a well developed market for these?
@Saftkeur
@Saftkeur 5 ай бұрын
@@borisgurevich5504 I have no idea tbh. I imagine they're still valuable, and the sort of thief willing to chop stuff up in public probably doesn't care so long as they get a bit of cash out of it. Though I also kinda doubt most thieves are paying attention to anything besides "that bike looks expensive".
@Hill_Walker
@Hill_Walker 5 ай бұрын
I'm fairly sure the lock picking lawyer has reviewed squire locks a fair bit. They hold up very favourably compared to other lock manufacturers.
@richiejames928
@richiejames928 5 ай бұрын
Precisely zero bike thieves are going to pick your lock 😂😂😂 not while cordless angle grinders exist.
@trwilliams22
@trwilliams22 5 ай бұрын
@@richiejames928unless the LPL is the bike thief
@tconnolly9820
@tconnolly9820 5 ай бұрын
It may happen BUT it is extremely rare for any bike thieves to pick a lock instead of going straight for the brute force option instead.
@borisgurevich5504
@borisgurevich5504 5 ай бұрын
@@tconnolly9820except that we have just seen a lock that cannot be cut with a regular angle grinder
@tconnolly9820
@tconnolly9820 5 ай бұрын
@@borisgurevich5504 I wouldn't agree with that. You saw an inexperienced person using a mini battery powered angle grinder and not using the ideal cutting disc for the task. Straight off, using that same equipment I would have been walking away with that bike in less than two minutes. I'd just cut the f#&king bike rack and that bike is mine. It's at the stage now where in most cases it is easier to cut the bike rack than even a Gold rated lock. Take that bike back to my premises and I will make short work of those two "indestructible" locks in two minutes or less with a mains powered industrial cutter. When you are preventing the local scumbag kids and "amateur" thieves they are very good. Up against someone organised and experienced with powerful battery powered industrial cutters, they're an inconvenience.
@seanoleary771
@seanoleary771 5 ай бұрын
I always use 2 U-locks, on the theory that having to cut through 2 seperate locks is going to be enough of a faf to make a prospective thief just shrug and look for easier targets. Worked pretty well for me so far.
@SamuelBlackMetalRider
@SamuelBlackMetalRider 5 ай бұрын
Same. It’s mostly about DETERRING
@Aka.Aka.
@Aka.Aka. 5 ай бұрын
I have 2 u locks and 2 chain locks (gold, diamond and alarm) if they still manage to steal dat idk what to say man 😅😅
@blazeraz7666
@blazeraz7666 4 ай бұрын
What city
@Leevan3
@Leevan3 3 ай бұрын
@@blazeraz7666 i have 2 diamond u locks, a chain, bike cover, alarm and insurance. lol i live in brooklyn and my e bike stays outside. no problems so far after 3 years of doing this
@staypositive5718
@staypositive5718 3 ай бұрын
Depends on the bike and city bro
@mikeymike1792
@mikeymike1792 5 ай бұрын
I've got that Onguard lock, because it's the cheapest one my insurance company will accept. Glad to see it did quite well!
@kellylingus
@kellylingus 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! Seeing the improvement from Kryptonite was good to see. I would have liked to see the Onguard Brute tested as well.Though, I'll need to keep my eyes peeled for Squire across the pond
@RageAZA
@RageAZA 5 ай бұрын
i may be wrong... but ive used alot of abracs porcelain cutting discs in the past and that disc looks like an abracs porcelain disc. a standard inox cutting disc would probably do the job faster. EDIT: checked toolstation its a general purpose abracs blade. not rated for metals at all.
@Aethid
@Aethid 4 ай бұрын
These locks have finishes on them that wear down metal cutting disks. Diamond ceramic cutters work better on them.
@TheSkar77
@TheSkar77 2 ай бұрын
@@Aethid Proof it. Any Video where i can see they cut it with a regular Steel disc here on KZbin? I didnt found even one. They all use Discs for stones and other materials. I think its a big fake at all.
@Aethid
@Aethid 2 ай бұрын
@@TheSkar77 Most of the channels that test lock printer resistance use diamond cutting disks because they get faster times with those.
@Aethid
@Aethid 2 ай бұрын
@TheSkar77 I'm just looking now in fact, and I'm struggling to find anyone who tests these angle grinder resistant locks with steel curring disks. They all use ceramic cutting disks. I can only assume you either didn't actually bother looking before you commented, or you are lying.
@recumbentrocks2929
@recumbentrocks2929 15 күн бұрын
You could also use stainless steel cutting discs. These are extra hard.
@DV_MLS
@DV_MLS 5 ай бұрын
I don’t want to be a Karen lads but you’re using the wrong disk on your cutter… those disks are for tiles
@LightingSparks82
@LightingSparks82 4 ай бұрын
Thing is it depends on what they steal in the first place grinder wise.
@dominikkovacs4745
@dominikkovacs4745 4 ай бұрын
Yeah It isn't for Metal
@Cade_Media
@Cade_Media 4 ай бұрын
Standard metal cutting discs get eaten up by the anti angle grinder locks, so you have to use diamond discs instead. We've done this a few times now ;)
@amarya86
@amarya86 4 ай бұрын
I use one of those diamond metal blades, they cut pretty well
@DorkDiscFanClub
@DorkDiscFanClub 4 ай бұрын
Yup , I get all my free e bikes using a DeWalt and diamond discs​@@amarya86
@41istair
@41istair 4 ай бұрын
7:00 Cutting Disc identified: TopsTools TTDS125 - 5", 125mm Segmented Diamond Cutting Disc Manufacturer Product Details: "These diamond cutting discs are designed to be used wet or dry. They can be used to cut concrete, masonry, stone, asphalt, marble, granite and most general building materials." Specifications: Brand: TopsTools Product Type: Circular Saw Blades, Diamond Saw Blades Size: 125mm Bore Size: 20mm, 22.23mm Suitable For Cutting: Asphalt, Concrete, Granite, Hard Metal, Hard Wood, Marble, Masonry, Metal, Soft Metal, Soft Wood, Stone, Wood
@farmerjohn2262
@farmerjohn2262 Ай бұрын
Lock makers should design a lock that spurts sulphuric acid when cut, just like the creature in Alien. 😂
@cadwerks3277
@cadwerks3277 Күн бұрын
As a product designer myself, I'm sure the legal department won't approve such a design. I'm sure the thief would end up suing them. Some laws just don't make sense. I personally know of a case where a thief broke into a high school, got caught in the razor wire, and then sued the LAUSD. The school lost the case because they technically weren't allowed to use that type of fencing."
@danielgrayling5032
@danielgrayling5032 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad Nick started wearing ear protection half way through the video.
@zauliuz
@zauliuz 5 ай бұрын
Would be nice if you can show how to carry those locks on bike. i mean place where to put it if you riding and didn't have bag.
@headlessmike
@headlessmike 5 ай бұрын
One at home, one at work. Then keep a lightweight lock with you for quick stops elsewhere.
@keithcampbell5914
@keithcampbell5914 5 ай бұрын
I’ve found that putting the mount on the top tube so that the lock sits parallel to the frame and out of the way of your knees works well.
@daredemontriple6
@daredemontriple6 5 ай бұрын
A lot of D locks come with a mount that allows you to store them inside the main triangle - little holder thing bolts onto the seat tube and you slot the lock in and out of there. Most of Hiplock's products can, as the name suggests, be worn almost like a belt around the rider's hips. When I used to need to, I carried a D lock in my rucksack along with my change of shoes and other work-related things. These days I have secure cycle storage at my workplace so I just leave a small lock in the cycle storage.
@joeearnshaw2286
@joeearnshaw2286 5 ай бұрын
As well as all the other suggestions, Temple cycles makes a holster for d-locks that sits on the back of your saddle, sort of like a saddle bag
@Kingjay814
@Kingjay814 5 ай бұрын
Mine I mount to the top tube so it just sits inside the frame. That’s what I do with my Kryptonite walks. Mine actually came with a pretty basic but effective little mounting strap for that purpose.
@Ostsol
@Ostsol Ай бұрын
Lots of good locks there. Definitely good enough for locking a bike up outside the grocery store.
@JanBanJoovi-ol1qv
@JanBanJoovi-ol1qv 3 ай бұрын
For the average Joe, buying a dirt cheap bike makes more sense than investing on a heavy really expensive lock
@blublublublublublub
@blublublublublublub 5 ай бұрын
This test sadly is not valid even though you guys put lots of effort in this, but a diamond disc is not suitable for cutting steel. Diamond discs are made to cut rocks or softer metals that dont contain any carbon, as the diamonds degrade very quickly as they simply burn away beacause they consist of carbon. Thats probably the reason why the first lock was down so quickly an the other ones took several minutes and became very hot. You should really consider repeating this test with a disc that is made for cutting steel.
@edmundas919
@edmundas919 5 ай бұрын
Some locks has ceramic additives that eat up metal cutting discs, and some has plastic or aluminum coatings that melts, gunk ups blade and jams it. I guess it's the case with those angle grinder resistant locks they testes, so diamond disc is only way to go.
@bruceh5933
@bruceh5933 5 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing. I haven’t found a metal yet I couldn’t cut through quickly with a Walter zip disc.
@gasparcosta7496
@gasparcosta7496 5 ай бұрын
Also, sure it looks better but, you don't need to use a real bike for the cutting test, you re throwing a lot of metallic particles to the bike!
@limmoblack
@limmoblack 3 ай бұрын
@@bruceh5933 So what lock took the longest?
@bruceh5933
@bruceh5933 3 ай бұрын
@@limmoblack I haven't tried cutting locks, but I was cutting 1 1/8" steel studs a couple weeks ago and it didn't take long at all.
@siobhanbaynes
@siobhanbaynes 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Would be interested to see the LITELOCK X1 and X3 too.
@sidweazel2883
@sidweazel2883 3 ай бұрын
Litelok x3 and Litelok Moto are the best you can get. Three batteries and up to 10 disks put them streets above all locks tested here.
@Aaron-lr1di
@Aaron-lr1di 12 күн бұрын
@@sidweazel2883 Would it really take three batteries? is that the X1 model or X3?
@teleguy5699
@teleguy5699 11 күн бұрын
@@Aaron-lr1di I have the litelock x and that video is kind of sus. It took him that long on the first side and about 2 minutes on the second. It's a good lock, but with a quality grinder and wheel it can be beat.
@Aaron-lr1di
@Aaron-lr1di 11 күн бұрын
@@teleguy5699 What video?
@teleguy5699
@teleguy5699 10 күн бұрын
@@Aaron-lr1di Now I'm scrolling through all these videos. I've looked at so many figuring out what one to buy I can't find it. If I find it, I'll link it to you. The guy destroys like 3 blades and people in the know said he put too much angle torque on them, and then the other side, he got through with one blade that he just FFwd through. Saying that, I bought the Litelok as it does seem to be harder to cut through than others for the weight. Plus I have a cafe lock, Axa chain, and full coverage insurance. At some point, fate takes over and nothing you can do.
@jocap3837
@jocap3837 2 ай бұрын
OnGuard Pitbull: At £25 - £40, it offers a resistance time of 3 minutes 2 seconds, making it the most economical option with a reasonable resistance time. Squire D16 Max: Priced at £130, it provides a high resistance time of 10+ minutes, offering a good balance between cost and security. Kryptonite Mini and Squire Chainlok 10: Both provide around 4 minutes of resistance (4 minutes 4 seconds and 4 minutes 12 seconds respectively) but come at a mid-range price point (£85 and £90).
@frisedel
@frisedel 5 ай бұрын
and cutting through the fence or pole that the bike is locked to, is the exact reason why you lock the bike to what ever in a way that it can't be used in any meaningful way even if it's stolen. also the placement of the lock make it easier or harder to cut.
@VFXBishop
@VFXBishop 5 ай бұрын
Definitely cutting through the bar the bike is attached to with those anti-grinder models. But that might still be enough to let a theif say, "You know what... that other bike has a much easier lock to attack. I think I'll nick that one."
@vankus501
@vankus501 4 ай бұрын
Mfs cut lamppost down just to stole my bike
@brabrabarabra5027
@brabrabarabra5027 5 ай бұрын
Amazed how well the kryptonite mini holds up. I only have it for shopping or when the bike stands at a relatively secure location. Thought it was much flimsier.
@fuidiehockn4599
@fuidiehockn4599 2 ай бұрын
2:31 thats a good information thanks
@iblackfeathers
@iblackfeathers 4 ай бұрын
try the chemical skunklock for some fun. then try the squire d16max again followed by the litelok x3 followed by the hiplok x1000 followed finally by the carbon skunklock.
@StraightouttaBristol
@StraightouttaBristol 26 күн бұрын
Always lock through.. Back wheel and bike frame, whilst attaching to post or whatever you choose as the secure point. You're welcome ❤
@asebaninja
@asebaninja 5 ай бұрын
Unless I am mistaken, it looks like you have used a diamond blade for cutting masonry. A metal cutting blade would get thorough quicker.
@teddgram
@teddgram 5 ай бұрын
I wonder how long it would take to cut through the bar it's locked to or the bolts that secures it to the ground.
@johncoxy1
@johncoxy1 5 ай бұрын
yeah. That bike stand isn't made of scaffold steel. One cut and bend it. Hopefully the disk would be dead before they thought of that 😀
@teddgram
@teddgram 5 ай бұрын
@@johncoxy1 Although stealing bikes IMHO is stupid to begin with, I would never count on a thief being dumber than I am when it comes to finding a way to get my bike. The best way I know to keep mine is to never let it out of my sight.
@Muiutzz
@Muiutzz 4 ай бұрын
a true thief revealing himself
@pinjaliina
@pinjaliina 5 ай бұрын
The @CityofLondonPolice KZbin channel has a video ‘How secure is your bicycle lock’. It's 8 years old now, but still very informative. Somehow they can get through the strongest ‘ordinary’ (i.e. not labeled as an anti-angle grinder one) D-locks in a little over a minute. But maybe their ‘thief’ has more experience than you do, or the locks have really got a lot better in a decade.
@Khalidazizphoto
@Khalidazizphoto 5 ай бұрын
I would have liked to have seen how the ABUS Granit™ Super Extreme 2500 lock would have performed.
@quesadilla79
@quesadilla79 Ай бұрын
Thanx for the work, hiplock & squire it is❤
@isaacrosenberg3795
@isaacrosenberg3795 5 ай бұрын
few notes: 1 Try different tools, like hydraulic bolt cutter - its quite compact, silent, fast and sure there will be list of the locks that cuttable with this tool (like orange kryptonite - cuttable, but not yellow one as far as I know) 2 - Try to cut base of the lock if its "anti angle grinder" 3 - If you cut orange kryptonite at the top of the lock it could be enough flex to steal the bike if it locked for seatstay only (kryptonite is small - ofter you have to lock it for thinnest or "most outer" tubes) 4 - Separate locks by "carryable" and "not carryable" So you guys just stupidly ruined few locks without any analysis and classification. But you still can do it.
@austintinoC00l
@austintinoC00l 5 ай бұрын
Pragmasis chain and squire lock is all you need 👌
@You-Toober
@You-Toober Ай бұрын
Multiple layers of protection is best.
@squngy0
@squngy0 5 ай бұрын
The problem with the super strong locks is they are stronger then all the stuff you can attach it to. Thieves will just cut through the bike stand, or whatever you put the lock around. IMO they are not worth the extra bulk/cost over a more convenient lock for that reason.
@codprawn
@codprawn 3 ай бұрын
Not a lamp post! Rather dodgy cutting that down!
@jockeleu
@jockeleu 2 ай бұрын
@@codprawnI have a Hiplock, and Unfortunately in most cased it doesnt go around the bike frame AND a lamp post. Too small.
@dn7783
@dn7783 Ай бұрын
Your video should explain how many batteries and how many blades it took to go through. They're really tough lock, Because I do know the thicker. The blade, the longer it will last, but the less damage it will do well. The thinner blades will destroy themselves a lot quicker, but cut through things like butter
@macphail8
@macphail8 5 ай бұрын
Be interested in seeing how long it takes the LawPickingLawyer to open these locks.
@bikecommuter24
@bikecommuter24 5 ай бұрын
he would be done before they described the locks.
@sunny5142
@sunny5142 5 ай бұрын
"...3... 2...." "Done!" 😂
@htdtr
@htdtr 5 ай бұрын
Kinda pointless though, no bike thief is going to pick your lock.
@eunhyuekpark6159
@eunhyuekpark6159 5 ай бұрын
Easy mode for LPL, and luckily most thieves are too dim to have the skills to do so even if they had the tools.
@OllieJonesMod
@OllieJonesMod 5 ай бұрын
Francis and Jimmy in goggles and ear protection and they leave Nic in a pair of sunglasses and a beanie 😂
@dsp4392
@dsp4392 4 ай бұрын
Important work is being done here chaps 👏
@georgzwiebel9585
@georgzwiebel9585 5 ай бұрын
Pros mostly use pipe cutters if you lock your bike on one of these round bike stands. Silent and way faster.
@edmundas919
@edmundas919 5 ай бұрын
solution: square pipe
@georgzwiebel9585
@georgzwiebel9585 5 ай бұрын
​@@edmundas919 the solution to your solution is that the frame gets cut. No one wants to sell a complete bike with a identification number on the bottom bracket. A complete groupset and or wheels in fairly good condition however change hands fast and aren`t traceable.
@edmundas919
@edmundas919 5 ай бұрын
@@georgzwiebel9585 It's not a problem in europe. Lack of unified register and open borders makes it easy to move bicycles abroad and sell them. Only cycling enthusiasts care about bike history, regular person cares only about low price.
@georgzwiebel9585
@georgzwiebel9585 5 ай бұрын
​@@edmundas919 Most high end bikes (everything from 105, deore etc. upwards in terms of group sets) that get stolen are getting dissasembled and the parts except the frame get sold in the same country on second hand website as used parts. why should a bike thief group in for example germany transport the bike to poland, czech republic or austria when they get a higher price for the stolen groupsets, wheels and parts in the original country?
@Glen-u7d
@Glen-u7d 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic job, now you can make another one with the right tools. Double whammy.
@madshansen1118
@madshansen1118 5 ай бұрын
If someone is willing to spend 20 minutes grinding through the lock on my commuter, they can just have it, they're clearly more desperate than me.
@jameslove31
@jameslove31 4 ай бұрын
I had a look for the squire D16 Max and it's not available just yet... Just the D16 which is available but not the anti angle grinder version. I also checked direct with squire and they said yes coming soon. You must have had pre production one sent to you.
@tomblackwell4924
@tomblackwell4924 3 ай бұрын
The anti-angle grinder locks are impressive, but whatever the bike is locked to (for instance, a bike rack) is not angle grinder resistant, probably less than 90 seconds. A thief could grind through the bike rack, take bike, complete with expensive lock, throw it in the van, and then take it to their garage, where they could cut through the expensive lock with an acetylene torch. Find a place to lock the bike that is not secluded, or arrange with an employer to let you park the bike somewhere inside.
@chaxologist2024
@chaxologist2024 Ай бұрын
That's where multiple locks on multiple areas of the rack come into play. Never lock a bike with one anti-angle grinder lock then the thief will think twice! One anti-angle grinder and one regular lock can do the trick! That's also coupled with arming a bike with a couple of motion alarms!
@ciscoterres717
@ciscoterres717 23 күн бұрын
you should test them with a powerful magnet. Many lock mechanisms can be easily disengaged by putting a big magnet on one side of the locking mechanism.
@roundgraf6907
@roundgraf6907 4 ай бұрын
First off, nice video guys. The lock is only as strong as what it's attached to. Some guy used a good lock and attached it to a tree. Well, the thieves cut the tree and took the bike.
@DIY-DaddyO
@DIY-DaddyO 5 ай бұрын
How long would it take to cut through the bike rack? Or, dare I say it the frame. I've seen a cut Bianchi frame dumped in a hedge stripped of all its componentry goodness. Ideally these locks need a vibration sensor which sends a text to the owner so you can go back to your bike and kick shit out of the bike thief, sorry I meant "Take appropriate action" ... Keep em peeled... Don't have nightmares.... Etc...
@teleguy5699
@teleguy5699 11 күн бұрын
My e-bike battery is worth enough to destroy my bike. That's why I have e-bike insurance.
@Lyndon.-cp8kx
@Lyndon.-cp8kx 5 ай бұрын
Maybe use a metal cutting blade in the angle grinder? Looks like you’re using a masonry blade?
@edmundas919
@edmundas919 5 ай бұрын
I'm happy they used diamond blade, because some locks have ceramic additives that eat up metal cutting blades when cutting and other channels who tested them came to conclusion that lock is uncuttable when diamond disc would have no problems with it. Of course I'd be happier if they tried with both type of blades.
@leebob6521
@leebob6521 5 ай бұрын
Diamond cutting wheel is probably the worst disc to use, a 3M 125X1.0mm Cubitron 3 would rip the arse out of them locks in seconds!
@MegaHomer1984
@MegaHomer1984 4 ай бұрын
manupulating results and promote brand thats why they using concrete disc :) its a joke.
@Solosword-c7e
@Solosword-c7e 3 ай бұрын
Thank you 3xs over! This kind of information is not easy to find!
@DouglasSalguero-qh2sd
@DouglasSalguero-qh2sd Ай бұрын
Good show guys
@grahamsmith5780
@grahamsmith5780 Ай бұрын
Personally, I’d cut through the soft mild steel bike stand tubing and then sling the bike and the lock in the back of my van.
@npc5983
@npc5983 Ай бұрын
that's what they say at the end of the video
@hockysa
@hockysa 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I have the Hiplok I can trust the lock but have seen places where the bike rack has been cut instead.
@teleguy5699
@teleguy5699 11 күн бұрын
Do you live in the UK? Bike theft seems the worst there from all the videos I've seen.
@hockysa
@hockysa 11 күн бұрын
@@teleguy5699 I used to live in London have since moved. But yes bike theft is terrible thanks to the current laws in place and police resources being diverted to pursuing TV licences, Facebook comments and traffic fines.
@teleguy5699
@teleguy5699 10 күн бұрын
@@hockysa Terrible.
@LoneSheWolf09
@LoneSheWolf09 Ай бұрын
I think bike lock brands should give you their locks to test out so they know & can learn from what locks are most reliable and what they can improve on to make their product(s) even better than before. Not giving locks to test just shows that they’re either not bothered about the performance of the lock but happy to charge silly money or they don’t have faith in their product would rather keep it under wraps so then they don’t lose custom/money etc. If I had created a bike lock I would be more than happy to let them test it. If it wasn’t up to scratch, then back to drawing board try create a more stronger anti theft lock keep improving as much as I can by learning from different people, who’ve tested the locks what they experienced with trying to cut through bike locks. Life’s a learning curve, you’re always learning as you go along through life. If you’re not willing to learn & grow, then you’ll face less custom/less confidence from customers not worth losing in my eyes.
@matthewgeorge8361
@matthewgeorge8361 4 ай бұрын
Have only seen the D16 max today(a month later) on the official squire website(both locks are listed), the £130 lock looks the same in pictures(don't know about the size being the same or different), can see what happened if the max has no information anywhere. Great video as always..great laugh too with the banter!!
@forgetful212
@forgetful212 5 ай бұрын
Can you also try LITELOK X3 as well? Supposingly it takes several angle grinder blades and you still can't cut it
@sidweazel2883
@sidweazel2883 3 ай бұрын
Litelok x3 and Litelok Moto are the best you can get.
@gregchamberlain7554
@gregchamberlain7554 Ай бұрын
I'm sorry BIKE LOCK are getting out of hand!! Those are monstrous!!
@Bob_Betty
@Bob_Betty 5 ай бұрын
You should have affiliate links for the locks that did well too! Big plus for anyone with a good bike who wants to see it again.
@geirstorli
@geirstorli 5 ай бұрын
My colleague had a really good bike lock. Unfortunately the bike rack was really easy to cut… Next video do a angle grinder test of bike racks!
@CreativeFishDesignsCharlotte
@CreativeFishDesignsCharlotte 5 ай бұрын
so we do have locks that do work , thank you
@JayDubster
@JayDubster Ай бұрын
What makes me chuckle is, you didn't need the bike at all, just lock all the locks to the stand and crack on 😜😜
@ianjamesd
@ianjamesd 5 ай бұрын
Have heard of people using a mini car jack to pop D-locks. Would be interesting to see if those two grinder proof ones can stand up to that
@owdengodson2990
@owdengodson2990 2 сағат бұрын
It just bugs me that you didn’t go chronologically in the time it took to cut/try to cut the locks 😅. Great video!
@JHBEM
@JHBEM 5 ай бұрын
Could you see how long it takes to cut through various bike stands? I’m conscious that with some intelligence I would cut the bike stand and then take the bike&lock, take it ‘home’ to then break the lock… Also whether some are easier to Pick or Freeze?
@MrMattie725
@MrMattie725 5 ай бұрын
So for the Hiplok I just have to undo the four bolds of the stand? Which is probably silent and easy. I can figure out the rest at home :D
@erolhassan5346
@erolhassan5346 Ай бұрын
Really good video, thank you. What if the thief cuts through the bike rack, rather than the lock? Would that be easier, any thoughts?
@zajtoja
@zajtoja Ай бұрын
Im pretty sure thieves would use steel cutting discs but another option they probably use is to just cut the pipe holder and slide the lock offf, that would take a lot less time then 10 minutes.
@eziyac393
@eziyac393 5 ай бұрын
why no litelock? isnt that one also very good?
@GreenOilBike
@GreenOilBike 2 ай бұрын
Epic Video! I think its actually a 40 minute cut through time for the Hiplock right?! 10 minutes = half of one bar. Therefore 20 minutes to get through the whole bar. Each lock has two bars, so 20 minutes x two bars = 40 minutes right? So very theft proof. One idea is to buy two locks, keep one at the place you ride to - if a regular commute like school or work. (Then the weight doesn't matter)
@peterlucas5634
@peterlucas5634 5 ай бұрын
Top trick for U shaped locks - pop a car jack in the U and open it up. Security company locked up a bike at university and challenged students to nick the bike in under a minute to keep it. To quote Yoda "Embarrassed they were."
@chickenpoodle
@chickenpoodle 5 ай бұрын
but this just means they did not buy the proper lock. because a properly sized and used locked bike prevents people from shoving things in between the shackles. its not usually a good idea to buy a lock with a massive sized shackle and lock one bike to a small thin object. if thats the case, you'll wanna size down and buy something with a smaller U.
@markusseppala6547
@markusseppala6547 5 ай бұрын
Love the energy in this video
@ashchbkv6965
@ashchbkv6965 5 ай бұрын
The performance of a battery powered angle grinder definitely goes down when the battery is drained, for fair results a fully charged battery should be used for every lock.
@dev1ator_yt
@dev1ator_yt 4 ай бұрын
After reading some comments and checking disc myself 03:51 you guys probably used wrong type of diamond disc for this test that could wrongly show real time results. That one in video probably IS for concrete bc it has wider gap than ones for cutting stainless steel, and some Ive seen don't even have gaps. I think you should do test again on DX1000 and Squire D16 MAX. But ofc with Diamond Cutting Disc specifically for Stainless Steel, without any gaps perhaps. And show disc to the camera in future videos.
@oplkfdhgk
@oplkfdhgk 5 ай бұрын
i like how you didn't even take the water bottle off the bike before doing this. the water is probably like 50% metal after this test. 😀
@Cyrenetes
@Cyrenetes 5 ай бұрын
Now I'm more interested in knowing how bike racks do against an angle grinder.
@khalidb4891
@khalidb4891 2 ай бұрын
Scrap the children oriented screams and funny faces, and you have a solid channel there.
@KPhan815
@KPhan815 Ай бұрын
Can you place the names and specific models in the video in the description ? And in the future what their weights are? Do how to you recommend bike locks for child seats
@microusb42069
@microusb42069 4 ай бұрын
I wanna see you guys try some of the different Kryptonite chain locks and also use different types of blades.
@poisonpotato1
@poisonpotato1 Ай бұрын
How to not look suspicious stealing the bike: set up a camera and aay your testing it
@elhior23
@elhior23 5 ай бұрын
When locks become much stronger then what you attach them too why not just cut the bike rack?
@pompeymonkey3271
@pompeymonkey3271 Ай бұрын
"I've never seen a bike thief change their batteries". How many have you watched? lol
@shaun89759
@shaun89759 4 ай бұрын
That angle grinder could cut thru the bike rack pretty fast. Cut the rack not the lock?
@markwilliams5654
@markwilliams5654 5 ай бұрын
Diamond tipped blade not stopping anything 😮
@Fango925
@Fango925 5 ай бұрын
I need a bike check from Nick, looks great with the knobby tires on it
@ianknight9589
@ianknight9589 2 ай бұрын
Thanks going to order the D16 👍 edit: then went to amazon and saw the reviews, oh dear 🤦
@timtaylor9590
@timtaylor9590 5 ай бұрын
I like the two wrench method for pad locks
@toddsmithselbow1732
@toddsmithselbow1732 19 күн бұрын
Still rocking the same locks I've had for years. A 4x8 krypto series 2, hiplok original chain lock I got on sale for like $40 and a knog strongman I got for like $30 on sale. The padlock on the hiplok is so soft it's a joke so I don't really use it.
@jhandsky
@jhandsky Күн бұрын
I know what I’m investing in next, thanks!
@humanbass
@humanbass 4 ай бұрын
Im actually shocked how good the OnGuard Pitbull did cost wise.
@robnygren923
@robnygren923 5 ай бұрын
How long would it take to cut the bike rack ?
@KingOfNaraka
@KingOfNaraka 2 ай бұрын
Making the lock thicker than the diameter of angle grinder blade will help prevent the blade from cutting deeper. Coat the steel with really thick rubber should help with manufacturing cost.
@Metalshark100
@Metalshark100 3 ай бұрын
you guys should test the litelok x3 and the abus granit super extreme 2500!!
@sciroccoR
@sciroccoR 3 ай бұрын
great and amusing video! thanks.
@joshuarebennack68
@joshuarebennack68 5 ай бұрын
Thoughts: 1) I love my Knog Scout bike alarm. For "hopping in the cafe for a moment", its the best. Not a lock and shouldn't considered as such, but still, so nice to beep boop the phone and know its armed and beep boop when I come outside and ride off. 2) For basic "commuting" use, i.e. lock the bike up while you get tacos, getting a 5 minute cut time is probably sufficient as people will be around in front of most businesses. 3) For at the office, overnight, or common area lock ups, you are going to want one of those 10+ models.
@JamesSmith-ly2ef
@JamesSmith-ly2ef 4 ай бұрын
A thief will always go for the weakest point so it may not be the lock but what it is locked to i.e. the post if that is possible
@benjaminwilson9193
@benjaminwilson9193 5 ай бұрын
I mean, the main security you are getting is being harder to steal than the bike next to you. If a thief is coming after your bike with an angle grinder, there isn't much you can do if they are that dedicated.
@JamesWilson-hs7ie
@JamesWilson-hs7ie 5 ай бұрын
Hey guys, have you got the weights for each lock? be good to see weight vs time (unless leaving it at the destination). Had a bike nicked before where they actually cut the bike stand rather than the lock
@roger3958
@roger3958 2 ай бұрын
When you were done, you should’ve grinded through the bike rack that you brought to see how long that would take.
@pcfreak1992
@pcfreak1992 3 ай бұрын
Now the question is if the core is also safe or can be opened with a toothpick. I know the Kryptonite has a great disc detainer core.
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