Expensive Bike Stuff That's Actually Worth It (And Stuff That Isn't) - The Wild Ones Podcast Ep.32

[@irespectfullyrefuse]

I really like Emily, she adds so much to the vibe! She's also really good at highlighting blindspots, asking great questions and steering the conversation in the right direction. This is my opinion and I hope you liked it. Thanks for coming to my TedTalk.

[@NoahStephens]

She was absolutely clutch in the discussion of Muc Off's gross bike glove ad.

[@adammillsindustries.]

Yes, If I wasn't married I'd marry her.

[@IMTWOHUGE]

Simps

[@ShawnIsBatman]

Jimmy and Emily - from your comment about knowing all of the various bib/short pad manufacturers in the industry, it would be incredibly helpful for the community to have a detailed breakdown/explanation of the various pad materials, shapes, etc. and what constitutes quality vs. a non-quality construction. This does not have to be a scenario where you name specific vendors (good or bad) unless you want to, simply having the knowledge of what to look for would be fantastic.

[@Shadowboost]

Elastic interface or Assos, Velocio chamois. Accept nothing else

[@KNURKonesur]

That's very cool, but what if someone doesn't want to spend £200+ on bib shorts? Also Elastic Interface has like 50 different pads :D Also also Assos for example has a very limited size chart. Velocio has an amazing size chart, but their long distance shorts are $280.

[@nluisa]

@@KNURKonesur Look at Band of Climbers. I have a particular Elastic Interface women pad I like and are much cheaper. Other brands with their own factory are much cheaper too. Kalas or GSport are worth a look.

[@Erteywie]

Yeah. IMO, the best way to go about it is to put your (Jimmy and Emily) knowledge, experience, and information out to the public, and let the consumer decide what corners they want to cut to fit their own budget.

[@Shadowboost]

@@KNURKonesur I haven't spent over 140 USD on any bibs. I have Assos RS and RSR S9 Targas. Just buy on sale. Velocio was under 200 like three weeks ago

[@TheTomatenfisch]

Something that is very underrated, and hardly mentioned anywhere is the DIY character about cycling. Maybe its just me (bike messenger, in Vienna, with up to 450 km/week) but there are so many ways! its not just about perfection, its more about optimising and the use of what you got.....shoe inserts made of old yoga matts, bar tapes made out of inner tubes, homemade energy bars/gels, hand scrub made by salt and shower gel ...So much stuff you can get so much cheaper from a building market; even a pharmacy (alcokol, talcum), and even a supermarket (dehydrating bacon, making fruit leather..) I personally think, its a big part of "keeping it real, enjoyable, effordable, personal, easygoing, and less elite.Think outside the box, and never forget that its about passion and fun, rather than watts, consumption, and performance.

[@malcontent_1]

This was yet another excellent episode. Your ongoing discussion about *_value_* is refreshing, _necessary_ & welcome.

[@dark1810]

nearly all youtube bike youtubers are massively out of touch they wont do a video about going to a shop with out a 10,000 euro race bike its insane

[@Pseudynom]

Shout-out to Path Less Pedaled.

[@vaska00762]

​@@Pseudynom No better imo, if what he's doing is promoting the cottage industry that exists of still heavily overpriced components, when compared to something available from Shimano or SRAM, or indeed the many Chinese brands like Microshift.

[@jrmhng]

​​@@vaska00762that is a very negative take on the channel. I've seen him promote his friction shifter maybe twice? Otherwise it's a mix of product reviews or information videos skewed toward more the upright / non race focused / gravel and mixed terrain capable side of things. Some of the products, including his own shifter are probably more expensive because they do not have massive economies of scale. But to call it a cottage industry is a stretch. A more objective take is that he is a passionate cyclist who is reviewing less mainstream products which would actually suit a more mainstream cyclist (vs an aero bike). Just be fair to the guy man...he supplements his KZbin income with sticker sales for God's sake.

[@nicolas2838]

Most KZbin bike KZbinrs spend more time taking pictures and doing coffee rides with those nice sponsored kits and beautiful friends instead of training.

[@Shadowboost]

I am ok with it. As long as every one of them is buying it themselves with cold hard cash. Also path less pedaled is a schmuck

[@endcensorship874]

I ride at night a lot and I can not emphasize enough how good lights, which are expensive, are so damn important. Remember there are two types of lights: those that allow to be seen and those that allow you to see. That’s not necessarily the same thing.

[@mikewade777]

Got three front (used individually) that do a fantastic job at lighting the road, £13 to 20. I just plug in a powerbank to keep all lights running.

[@TikeMyson69]

@mikewade777 Would you mind sharing what lights they are. That's a great price range.

[@kylehagertybanana]

use them at day too why not!

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Great tool for catching moths and butterflies too. If you're into that sort of thing ... 😂

[@mikewade777]

I got them in Wilko's before they shut up shop, two different models all 400 lumen, making them considerably brighter than those to be seen lights. 400 lumen don't sound like much but its served me well cycling unlit roads in south Wales.@@TikeMyson69

[@BrianMcDonald]

Doing your own maintenance is super underrated. No time waiting for a shop to complete work when there is high demand, and there is no one to blame for shoddy work but yourself! 😂

[@oliverhunt9362]

There’s also very few things involved in bike maintenance that you couldn’t do yourself with a bit of time and learning. I’m yet to service my own suspension, but maybe one day.

[@BrianMcDonald]

@@oliverhunt9362 I don't use any bikes with suspension but if I did I think I would want to know how to service it too.

[@vcalvo]

I just want to say that you guys are doing a standout job at cade media. I enjoy the content, seeing everyone on camera, your production quality has always been excellent, and you have great perspectives of the industry and the sport. Keep up the great work!

[@113EEBROEDBD]

Please continue talking about good value and thanks for not gatekeeping anything. The industry insights are also super interesting and important.

[@rob.pittaway]

I feel like a great video would be to put together a complete system of what you would call the best kit for the least money, not the cheapest but the best value for money setup you could build, so Decathlon bike with x tools And y tyres and so on. Just a thought.

[@calmprn7165]

That's an absolute brilliant idea , all the kit you need to travel and maintain for the least price and time cost over ten year period

[@Jay685]

I'm fairly new to cycling and knowing the better value clothing brands would be very useful.

[@KNURKonesur]

Good value cycling clothing would be something I'd be very interested in! Especially brands that make sizes for bigger riders as with some of the mainstream big brands an XXL is still for skinny people :P

[@davido8086]

This is impossible because everyone has their own personal opinion. I say start with a $500 used bike. Meet the seller at a bike shop and pay the bike shop to look over the bike to check what needs repair if you can’t look for yourself. Look for a bike that has not been ridden much like if it comes with the original tires and only a couple years old but 75% cheaper than new I’ll buy it. Buy some nice bibs that cost about $100. And then ride the bike until it starts to fall apart probably multiple years and by then you will know everything about bikes including how to work on them

[@rob.pittaway]

Yeah they can issue their opinion that’s what I’m interested in.

[@peterharrington8709]

Clothing? Aldi / Lidl stuff... Had SO much stuff from them over the years. Recently... full length fleece lined bib tights £8! £8! Not the thickest pad in them, but I did a 200k in them last Saturday with no problem. Waterproof top (oversized... as you said), with a back pocket, taped seams and under arm zipped vents.... £25!! They've also done merino base layers and top layer polyester jackets etc that I've had for *very* reasonable and have served well over a good few years.😃

[@lesliereissner4711]

The Wild Ones: GCN recognized that things are too expensive after the motorcycle/bike comparison fiasco so credit to them! Also, very expensive jerseys are a waste of money. GCN: Look at our new kit! GBP 400 for a jersey and bib shorts!😊

[@shoham00]

GCN is fun to watch. I'd happily spend GBP50 on a pair of shorts + jersey and give them free advertising. 400? LoL

[@derekhobbs1102]

Something I wish existed is casual looking cycling jerseys, so basically plain clothes with rear pockets, I would even wear them to work for the convenience of the pockets.

[@Jayneflakes]

Listening to Nick makes me really miss working in bike shops. There is a joy in a good bike shop that I have not found in any other place of work.

[@iecrime]

You were spot on about that GCN show. Same time, I'm tired of being sold on so much high end bikes and components and GCN negatively feeds a distorted narratives. I don't begrudge people going for top end bikes with top end components, but newer riders and those that might not be able to afford top end, get lured into thinking they do.

[@themanabroad7800]

I love Nick, he really speaks sense and comes from an average consumer point of view. Really enjoy every episode that he features in. I’d love to see videos on basic home mechanics as this is something I would like to learn but I am worried that I’ll mess up my only bike.

[@zombwalker]

GCN just released their new cycling kit, which cost over 400€. I dont think they got the point

[@cinqniu]

I just have to say I love the level of Your conversation and performance. The best bike talks on the market

[@YuichiTamaki]

I have a 11 speed KMC chain with what I assume is a non reusable quick link. I believe it has more than 10 "cycles" and not a single problem.

[@hambo76]

All KMC quicklinks are reusable!

[@ohbee3224]

Skytec Argons are my go-to winter gloves too! Less than £10 and my hands are never cold. And super grippy too!

[@Kimberlietriracer25]

Gcn did a great job backpeddling. I am glad to hear that you are working toward the same goal of getting riders out there. Keeping in mind, though, that it's not the GCN presenters that are writing most of the stuff but are the fall guys when a revision has to be made. Also they are having to deal with the big tech sponsors, Silca is not bad because Josh is really interesting and has valuable things to say, but the money for production has to come from somewhere. Once again, I learn from both of your shows. I'm glad that you are working toward the same goal of getting people to ride safely.

[@patrickj4747]

You often pay a premium for activity specific products. Ask someone that owns a boat. The key is to find generic equivalents that work as well. The example was the gloves.

[@gregoryspowell]

Jimmy has really grown on me. Seems very genuine.

[@michaeldewing1904]

Right, I thought he was such an annoying twat, but then you realize he’s just truly unapologetically himself and actually really cool.. we’d probably get along well.!🤣🤣

[@adammillsindustries.]

He is AWESOME! 😊

[@nickbaumcycling]

Regarding expensive brands vs low cost brands. I feel that it's fairly subjective to the rider. I own a few MAAP items, and Pas Normal Studios, and I also own a good amount of Pearl Izumi and Castelli. I have to say, the quality on the MAAP / PSN items is visibly higher. The fit of the clothing, the material used, the stitching, the design of panels... for me, it leads to to a much much more premium and enjoyable (especially when spending long hours in the saddle) ride experience. One hack I have found, though, is if you are out and didnt dress properly and get cold, and you pass by a .99 cent store (I live in NYC, so there are a LOT of these) I have bought a few $8~ thermal top and bottom sets and put those on underneath my bike kit. It is a game changer, and the extra layer added underneath reallyyyy helps when you're already out and chilly. So, for me, (at least in winter) The combination of cheap bottom layers with expensive top layers seems to work pretty well.

[@craigwilson1604]

When you mention rain jackets i use my rab kinetic alpine to ride in crappy weather, its light breathable and waterproof, but i did buy it for climbing mountains but it does the job 😊

[@jon6346]

I don’t use rain jackets much but the one I bought was for sailing. It’s great.

[@grahamriley8124]

Use the kinetic pants - very good.

[@eddienoel1149]

GCN have shot themselves in the foot again with their new kit release and the cost being more than a reasonably Decathlon bike

[@CarnivoreDMD]

They should have gone Sportful!

[@matt.3.14]

But let's be honest, how many people are really buying GCN kit?

[@matthewlewis2072]

​@@matt.3.14 The presenters certainly aren't!

[@stuartgrady2567]

I've been using leaf blower for years when washing the bike. It is a game changer.

[@daveanolik8837]

Living here in Oregon in the US, if you don't ride in the rain you pretty much are on the turbo for 5 months. After five years and a lot of money trying to solve the rain jacket & gloves posit, I've landed on this: for road race day, a 7 mesh lightweight jacket. Race day only, the thing will rip if you had a big burrito for lunch 🙂. For daily use, the Shower's Pass hooded running slicker (not their cycling one... that one's good too but heavier and tougher). Gloves: two pair always, all always soak through. Castelli's winter glove for the really cold days, and Shower's Pass wool waterproof gloves for the dank rainy days. On a ride over two hours/full soakage, I swap glove pairs, drying the not-in-use ones in my jersey next to my back. Hope this helps others, as I've gotten good advice from comments on this channel

[@ssmtb]

41:11 Emilie's look of "oh I hope you enjoyed that, because it's going to cost you" 😂

[@johndoiron9615]

I love both you and GCN. I just discovered your outlet recently, whereas I have been following them (from the USA) for about 8 years. There's definitely enough room and no need to feel like you're competing.

[@DonOblivious]

Environmental note: those disposable hand warmers aren't *that* bad for the environment. Only the plastic wrapper is an issue. The "chemicals" inside are iron, salt, and water. When the chemical reaction is finished, you're left with....rust. Plain ol' iron oxide. Same stuff that's eating away at the frame of your car. The process of creating rust puts off a lot of heat but normally it happens so slowly it's unperceivable. Disposable hot packs regulate the chemical reaction by changing the composition or sizing the hot pack up or down. The hot pack of an MRE is large and fast, the hot pack of a 96 hour heat pack is large and slow, the hot pack of an 8/10/12 hand warmer is going to try and keep the reaction speed slow enough that it won't injure a person and the size determines how long it lasts. PS: If you cut off the oxygen supply those disposable heat packs stop reacting and producing heat. You can "pause" them by sealing them in a container or ziplock. If you can find them on a clearance sale in spring when they're super, super cheap just store them in multiple layers of ziplocks, or tupperware, or a mason jar, or whatever. I only use those handwarmer things if a winter innertube change is getting too painful/dangerous to complete because of frostbite. I researched most of the above to help my mom waste less money on disposable handwarmers for all those times she's out walking her dog in gloves that are too damn thin for the weather! Put on some mittens!

[@haiironezumi]

I had the somewhat surprising experience recently of being able to use the video from my Fly 6 to pass on some positive feedback to the police. I was riding home from work when I was passed by a marked police 4WD with lights on but no siren. Despite me being towards the left 1/3rd of a very generous lane, the driver moved fully over to the right hand side to pass me. Chapeau!

[@redkeyspoke]

Climbing with suspension is not measurably different in terms of power output, but locking it out can improve metabolic efficiency in how you put that power in to the pedals. Essentially, bouncing around is more work on your body, though the meter just measures the rotational energy you are putting into the system.

[@kylehagertybanana]

27:00 a plastic bag is an incredibly cheap rainjacket why does the equivalent of a trash bag cost hundreds of dollars, and dont say breathable bc they arent breathable AND waterproof its one or the other

[@CliveRichards.8.28kg]

Hi any chance you could put a link to the gloves you were talking about, great pod cast THanks

[@davidryan4053]

Glove Suggestion: Back in the day Sean Kelly 🇮🇪 used woollen gloves with rubber Marigold gloves over them. I've tried it. Warm, waterproof and costs about €6. 👍 David 🚲 🇮🇪

[@noamsolomonswise]

On the helmets, you definitely missed out the conversation on spending £20-30 more for a MIPS (or equivalent) helmet. Definitely adds a lot of protection from concussion. Also a helmet needs to fit well to be safe. Sometimes really cheap helmets have poor fitting systems.

[@totallynotraging]

This is a falsehood.

[@KNURKonesur]

​@@totallynotragingwhich bit? There's 4 statements in the comment :D I'd also add that quite often the expensive brands also have a dogshit fitting system when you have a big head and thick neck.

[@noamsolomonswise]

I’d say MIPS adds some rotational impact protection to an equivalent non-mips version of the same helmet. Bontrager also have wavecel, and lazer and Kask have their own systems too. Obviously fitting systems vary loads from brand to brand and it’s not the case of more expensive = better, but rather find the helmet that fits your head better. The Lazer system for adjusting (a roller on the top of the helmet) I found to be rubbish On a £100 helmet. Just depends on the helmet I guess

[@talktoplinio]

I learn so much with you all! Thank you so much and keep it going. Next time I'm Newcastle I'll visit the shop.

[@Rieger81]

I have always used Zefals tyre levers. Thin but wide, super flexible so never snapped and soft so no chance of damaging rims, and only a few quid too!

[@andrewb2514]

It's Tyre Glider for me. A different way of getting tyres on & off the rims that works a treat for my (nearly) 70 yo hands.

[@biking261]

I am a massive fanboy for Exposure lights and have had to send 2 back for repair and it was done very quickly and cheaply I cannot recommend them enough.

[@pmgoodyear]

I’m really enjoying your guy’s podcast (video cast). A great balance of seriousness and entertainment! Keep it up!

[@bbartvanwijk]

For washing off salt from the road, it’s better to use cold water. Warm water will dissolve the salt and make it go into places you do want it to go in.

[@johnnunn8688]

If cold water doesn’t dissolve the salt, how does it remove the salt?

[@markhilborn3786]

Warm water dissolves it faster, but both do the job.

[@JayLato]

4:43 it would do GCN well to acknowledge other KZbin channels and not act like they’re the only source of cycling knowledge.

[@simonwoodthrillerwriter]

When it comes to kit, I buy for longevity and what works best. Sometimes, I find some good cycling kit and sometimes, it's non-cycling kit. My wind jacket is a runner's jacket that cost $15. I adore a pair of Giro winter cycling gloves (that they don't make anymore) and my backup is a pair of $2 polyester knit gloves that I wear under an old pair of cycling gloves which works great in the cold (don't know why). It's all about being judicious with your money.

[@rossevans7646]

I have to say using something to dry your bike after washing it is a game changer. I bought a bruhl dryer for my motorbikes and also use it on my road and mountain bikes and it’s amazing

[@BurntToast1]

Agreed. I use my compressor with an air gun attachment. Great for getting water away from sitting in or around the chain/bolt heads/pivots/bearings etc. An air compressor is also nice to have for tubeless setups so double benefit.

[@matthewlewis2072]

Given the completely fair comparison of wheels in 'Snog, marry, avoid', can I suggest next week you get Nick to compare a Bentley, Mercedes-Benz and a Ford Focus?

[@Cycling-through-cancer]

Nailed it

[@tomreingold4024]

Cotton shirts are easier for managing body odor because you can change to a new shirt every day. If you did that with technical jerseys, you would spend a lot of money. Another alternative is to find a wool jersey or shirt. I wear a thin wool t-shirt 7 days a week, and I only wash it every week or two. I can put anything over it such as a cotton shirt, a jacket, or a jersey. The wool t-shirt takes away the odor and doesn't pass it to the other garments.

[@kovie9162]

My favorite tire levers are the Crank Brothers Speed Lever, which extends and clicks onto the axle and then you just have to spin them around and they pull the tire out in seconds. Not sure if they still make them and they do break eventually but mine lasted well over 10 years before being replaced.

[@danslasher5243]

Started two years ago to commute everyday to work and ride road bike couple times a week. I read many tests and comments about rainjackets. Bought a Shakedry and love it since day one. I had two good slams and one heavy fall with it. Slided over the asphalt some centimeters. It looks and feels so fragile but nothing happend. Very very tiny holes that don’t bother me at all. The jacket is still waterproof and I m completely dry when I wear it. So I’m very satisfied with the shake dry material. I wear the jacket also when it’s windy and not raining. I paid quite a bit for it, but it’s worth every penny. Funny that they are not mentioning the Shakedry. I will buy another spare one cause I heard they are discontinued.

[@MacMasore]

Wow more luck than me, when I put my shakedry on for one of the first times, front wheels slips on some wet leaves quit a bit of holes on my elbow Is now permanently ducktaped (won’t bin a €250 jacket) and still works to this day. Only problem is that I cant really wash it😅

[@danslasher5243]

Shit that sucks. I ve been duck taping since 86 while skateboarding…many it last’s even the washing machine for years if you done it good both ways 😂 or I just tape it every time after washing…

[@dinodaniel2237]

Great video Coach !

[@Ruslan.Leonov]

Awesome tips guys! And the review of the review is so spot on! Loved it, thank you.

[@RaveniusSFRJ]

I got my rain jacket in Aldi for less than 20$ and I don't know how much pressure it can take, but it works great. Never let any rain through. I also use it as a windstopper sometimes. Shirts and shorts I been getting from aliexpress for 10 years now. This video made me feel poor in so many ways lol

[@benoitbvg2888]

90% of my gear is from Decathlon, maybe 10% is Amazon (can't be bothered with Aliexpress).

[@RaveniusSFRJ]

@@benoitbvg2888 that's all because of lack of affordable equipment in my country. Even Decathlon opened just recently here. My only cycling equipment used to be from the club I rode for. It was pretty sad.

[@Ashbridg3s]

I look forward to this content every week, thank you. And a special thank you to Emily for producing it.

[@joe4624]

As you talked about safety cameras on you bike, how about a review of a few different types? I'm looking to get one but amazon and reddit reviews don't give you much detail.

[@vehicle-stuff]

On the waterproof and breathable fabrics. If it rains those waterproof fabrics can't breathe, as water blocks the fabric. And there are test on testing different brands on waterproof fabrics. So just get something tested and that fits. Also true to check on other activities for waterproof clothes.

[@1esk192]

I went almost full Lupine with my lights (+ a Garmin Varia) and love how easy and carefree everything is now. Especially the Mag 14 is amazing, because it allows me to run a quality backlight on a mountain bike with a dropper post. Right now I have to commute with an MTB. A couple of years ago I found some great pogies via Path less Pedaled, done by Bike Iowa. Seriously a major game changer in a climate without much snow and ice cold weather where normal bar mitts would be a huge overkill.

[@a_scotsman_on_a_horse]

I love the openness and honesty you all bring to cycling - keep it up! PS - patent not pantent - sorry :)

[@RobKavanagh-p3x]

hey guys, this is excellent! wish I had this content starting off when I first got into road cycling. getting back into now though so found a lot of this information great! refreshing versus the usall sponsored review crap where they tell you expensive stuff is the best.

[@Risayogi]

I agree with jersey and bibshort. I honestly can’t tell the significant difference between a descent jersey and a expensive ones, but surely I can feel the difference between a cheap and expensive bibshorts. I once bought a cheap bibshort that the manufacturer said is a budget endurance bib. I can’t ride more than 2 hours with that bib, it feels painful.

[@rossco3603]

I love how proud Neil is for his glove hack. It's kinda funny considering Amazon charge you almost 3 times what they actually retail for! Please don't give Amazon your custom!

[@NelsonSherry]

Good bib shorts and shoes are a must. Jersey pockets, comfortable flat seams, a good cut/shape and 2-way stretch along with a good tech fabric makes a significantly nicer riding experience. Cheap jersies with a poor fit, poor stretch and no pockets makes a t-shirt a prefered option.

[@Enidub]

We had a nozzle for the compressor in the shop that we'd used to dry the chains, cassettes and smaller parts. Saves so much time and shops rags.

[@PatrickVroonland]

I have Assos bibs for many years now. Yes, there are more expensive then some other brands but I never had any issue with them. Even after several crashes during mountainbiking, they are still without any holes. With cheaper bibs I had to through them in the bin after a crash.

[@dandaniel9374]

Great stuff guys. I worked in the whitewater apparel industry for a few years, and we found that making drysuits for full immersion in cold water wasn't super difficult, a lot of fabrics could be made to be almost 100% waterproof, but the problem was breathability. Gore-Tex made the best material( not saying they're the only one who makes a quality fabric like this) for that, but the best they had to offer on the breathability side of the equation wasn't very waterproof, their most waterproof wasn't very breathable... We ended up using different grades of the fabric in different areas of the suits, to get the best we could. To this day, I worry about overdressing under my drysuit, even on the coldest of days than I do about it letting water in, in the event of a swim. I don't understand why cold weather bibs don't have integrated booties sewn into them, and there are ways to mate garments that don't allow water to enter, even with bending and stretching(see the Stakeout boys in Canada during early spring runoff). Latex gaskets also work very well at the wrists and neck.

[@3Max]

~9:40 "Surely someone knows better than me" -- Many people think this, but in fact with this user-specific feedback, the models can become much better tuned to user preferences than professional heuristics. I'm not sure if it will be true for this application to bike suspension, but it is true for many many applications.

[@Shadowboost]

I have very expensive kit, and cheap kit that was expensive. Never pay retail. I got 5 Velocio SE jerseys for under 30 dollars each on sale. Assos RS jersey for 50, Eliel jerseys for 50, etc.

[@MrMartinSchou]

With regards to rain gear, if you're not looking to be hyper aerodynamic or looking ultra cool, but you're just looking to stay dry, I can highly recommend getting waterproof, hi-vis overalls and work jacket. It's made to be used, it's made to be comfortable across a large range of temperatures, it's made to be durable. And if you're commuting, the hi-vis also helps in making you a lot more visible. And if you buy something with cosmetic defects, you can get it cheap as well. I'm using almost exclusively worker's outer wear for those reasons, including gloves and head covering.

[@CarnivoreDMD]

Top of the line biking waterproof wear is bonkers! I did get an ASSOS rain jacket for $100 but has vents for breathing….buy some kayaking stuff as you’re going to get wet!

[@bigsiwhat7923]

+1 for the hot tap outside: absolute game changer!

[@alifaldila]

Best cycling video ever. Really helpful for a newbie like me

[@MartinBrown-mb7pz]

Living in a high UV environment ( NZ) my kit issue is with colour fastness, especially shirts - and while I like Rapha their brevet merino blacks and blues turn brown and grey, and their fully synthetic tops fade out over a single summer. Socks, same.

[@merckxy54]

Wet weather gear not really needed where I live in Italy, Puglia Southern Italy! Not rained here properly since last June!! When I lived in England , Southampton, and Hayling Island yes, especially when commuting 15 miles each way to work!!!

[@jpg6482]

Expensive bikes are an interesting debate - people say one thing though but are they really interested in mediocre bikes vs top end? Look at car shows etc etc its all focused on top end. I agree could balance a little more but think the real issue with GCN/GMBN etc is the sponsorship model - it means to me I take everything they say on bikes with a pinch of salt and just enjoy the content!

[@dtibor5903]

34:39 Decathlon gloves are pretty good. They are not waterproof, but even wet they are pretty warm

[@davidogarr170966]

Waterproof? General outdoor walking waterproof jacket. You can get something that will keep you dry for £100

[@marcalberts6703]

Very interesting discussion of AI. I work for a very large tech company as a specialist in data and AI myself, so I'm really curious and the distinction your friend was making. They might even be one of my extended teammates. That said, typically we think of AI to include machine learning. Vision models are built on top of machine learning algorithms, for example. So it would be interesting to see maybe an interview with your friend discussing this topic. It would help me better understand how he is parsing. I will definitely agree that artificial general purpose intelligence is a bit of a different animal, and that is what the Sci-fi writers definitely focus on this, but that doesn't mean that is the full extent of what we can call AI is just general purpose AI.

[@ThavisWekelijkseVideos]

Kit comparison test anytime soon? I'd love Francis' and your guys feedback on every major/well-known/(hype?) brands.

[@MacMasore]

49:30 Also they have to fracturing in previous items they have reviewed and scored.

[@andyc9187]

If you’re talking about independent reviews etc, I’m glad you mentioned that the presenter who talked about the benefits of POC doesn’t buy his own stuff!

[@Niala8419]

I'd love an Emily eye roll when someone mentions Cafe du Cyclist 😂😂😂

[@ZenEndurance]

There’s a huge opportunity for suspension by telling it to lock up by location on a map (with override option) Lock up on flat and uphill pavement, open up on off-road and downhill. Pre-select areas on a map. And also a learning mode and let you review recommendations it felt when you preride or upload a route. Just like how lots of sports cars remember by location where to lift the front end so you don’t scrape.

[@BOys85]

Exposure lights are awesome!

[@Dubsys]

I'm a pretty casual rider that rides an old 90s frame that I picked up for like 50gbp and its fine for just getting around and having fun, but looking at new bike prices have me so reluctant to spend when i can put that money toward something that has so much more value for what i'm paying. Especially when I'm looking at like 700-1000gbp to get out of the "entry" level.

[@wfrx4783]

I went from 40€ jerseys to 80€ jerseys to 120€ jerseys. Every step up has been worth it to me, they just fit better and feel better.

[@cincydooley]

Agreed. Anyone that says a $40 jersey fits even remotely similarly or is in the same realm of quality as a $120+ one is a liar.

[@KNURKonesur]

​@@cincydooleyor they're not a skinny athlete who trains for racing and/or avg speed and FTP, but just a normal human with some flabs, cycling for fun

[@marcalberts6703]

@@KNURKonesuras a more recreational rider with flab I still despise the low end jerseys I've tried. They just don't fit well and the material was significantly worse.

[@KNURKonesur]

​@@marcalberts6703I get that. I was also shocked by £8-10 jerseys from Aldi or Lidl. But Decathlon make a decent cheap one for about £15, and ones I got from them or Pearl Izumi or dhb for £30-40 (or wool ones for about 50) - I don't really see where they could be improved without me stopping being a recreational rider.

[@cincydooley]

@@KNURKonesur I’m not skinny by any stretch of the imagination and I can damn well tell you my not skinny skin isn’t a fan of the cheaper fabrics.

[@WhyTheyRide]

The Endura club kit is fantastic, the jersey we went for came out at about £70 and is ace!

[@timwolf2215]

From a mild weather area, ( never above 30 degrees and never below 10) the Castelli squadra is all I’ve ever needed. 60 bucks delivered. Combined with ass saver and velotose shoe covers, it’s the best investment I’ve made for rain rides

[@erichagen8053]

Question: Which does CM like: Time ADH w/ Ultegra and wheel upgrade or w/ Dura Ace and no wheel upgrade???

[@br5380]

Just watching after a night ride on enduro-type trails in the Tweed Valley. Exposure Diablo on the helmet & MaxxD on the bars. The MaxxD I got in 2022 to replace an Exposure Toro from 2010. The Toro still works well but my old eyes need a bit more ‘assistance’.

[@123moof]

I'm a huge fan of Bar Mitts pogies for riding in the wet and cold. You can use summer weight gloves inside, and they still breath enough to not be a soggy cold mess. Well worth it.

[@songjoseph3314]

I do have that giro Aries helmet. I don’t know why but they always on sale in NZ and only around $200 usd. However I love it and 100% suggest it to everyone. Great helmet. Something I don’t think need spend too much money on are, bike lights, chain lube and fancy Italian brand jersey. It just doesn’t have much difference

[@davidkendall4588]

I've got a pair of Showers Pass winter bike gloves that I swear by for really cold rides. For shoulder season REI used to have house brand lobster claw overgloves that are lightweight and can easily be stashed in a jersey pocket. Think they stopped selling them though.

[@holdenc1006]

I’m a relatively new road cyclist, had been having trouble with punctures recently-usually small cuts or little holes as if done by a needle; tried different approaches to cope with it; my final conclusion is that it’s gotta be Silca, without an alternative that i know of- definitely not Stans. So, no need to deal with plugs either. Not knowing this will waste a lot of effort and money, plus all the frustration on top. Love your channel btw.

[@grahambell9831]

Top content again Jimmi, Nick & Emily 👏. So right on the cost of apparel, often learning the hard way buying expensive 🥴......appropriate to task and that middle £££ ground is arguably the pragmatic way forward. Have a great weekend 🍻

[@je_om_8519]

I’ve been using ppe/work gloves for ages. all the different types normal, waterproof, thermal, etc. you can buy them at any hardware store in a pinch and they’re cheap, or you just get them from work like I do.

[@petertreadway]

56:22 couldn’t agree more with Nic. I’ve just bought a set of Cycliq cameras after one too many close passes. If everyone (or at least the majority) had them and reported dangerous incidents, the roads would be much safer. 👌🏻

[@maxmxl]

I agree with all you said, except for the rain jackets. Once the dwr is gone, also a 30k is not as breathable as it should, so I decided to take a "normal" one but with openings for let some air in. You forgot glasses! I love Oakley, because they are cool, but more because they can take big impacts protecting your eyes. I cannot find other brands that can pass indipendent test.

[@dtibor5903]

36:09 i have designed and 3D printed tyre levers. So far holding up well.

[@Sai-tb1xt]

as some let's say ... "in the know" .. about all the AI/ML stuff..... THANK YOU for the comment . you hit the nail right on the head with saying that all the stuff that most people know is ML and is not really rocket science this is something that bugs me so hard, and it is really refreshing to hear someone say it in a not IT-related context

[@GeekonaBike]

Back in the day we'ed use lighter weight dress suspenders w/ out bibless shorts. I always wondered why someone didn't manufacture snap/clip on bib tops to convert standard shorts to bibs.

[@Germelvin]

I've seen the light finally...just built a wicked gravel bike from Carbonda frame and doing the same for a road bike...saved 1000's of Euro literally!!